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Monday, February 27th, 2023

There’s Something Happening There. What it is is not clear.

The first Question I have on the “Rage Against the War Machine” event. Is this a piggybacking off of Rage Against the Machine? Stoke confusion for political fans of the band?

The matter of Medea Benjamin: Code Pink pulled out of the fake Nazi “anti-war” rally because of the LaRouche Cult and Mises Caucus Nazis. Medea Benjamin is still attending and endorsing, just not speaking. It’s pandering to the Nazis and legitimizes them more. Basically, Code Pink told her she couldn’t speak. That From the horse’s mouth.

Was LORG supplying transportation? Part one of their recruitment drive mission for this, I suppose. The purpose of the Larouchie Involvement is to promote this: Fantastic pamphlet! Get your free copy at the #rageagainstthewarmachine rally Sunday Feb 19. See you at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC tomorrow! You know — Looking at the tweet feeds of who Burke and company are recruiting to get on the bus —

Would Sneako speak at the rally with… This message, whatever it is? A message and aesthetic that does tend to clash with that of Code Pink’s.

The 2008 and 2012 – 2016 Green Party Presidential candidate have a different opinion regarding Ukraine than the 2020 Green Party candidate. Evidentally have the 2000 Green candidate.

What’s really funny about this is the Libertarian Party, and even the Mises Caucus (which is pretty close to Nazis itself), is pretty upset that what was originally going to be *their* protest is being taken over by Nick Brana and LaRouche cultists.

The “Larouche” being confused with “libertarian” can be explained by the “L” and the “R” they have in common. I remember explaining to my sister that I actually detested Larouche & LP had nothing to do with him. Now, it seems, they do.

Vermin Supreme is out!

Terms of support from the Left: When Team Mises-Larouche physically starts shutting down weapons shipments, THEN we can talk about not organizing with them. Yeah — who’s the soy latte liberal now, huh?

Flashing back to the grand old days of International ANSWER. the hilarious thing here is that you and I both were “around” for both 9/11 and the Iraq war and active in protests while these guys had just finished reading Atlas Shrugged and were being recruited by the LaRouche PAC.

Remember in the 2000s when you also had dueling rallies (UFPJ as the respectable choice and ANSWER as the dodgy radical choice everybody was going over with a fine tooth comb to find excuses not support) on separate days? ….the more things change.

Ironically enough, the older folks in these orgs were involved in helping to normalize the Ukrainian far right internationally as part of the world anti-communist league up until the Maidan coup. Though I think that reflects more the mercurial nature of their politics generally.

Elizabeth Holtzman’s instrumental role in establishing the Nazi-hunting Office of Special Investigations (OSI) in the Department of Justice is precisely what made her Lyndon LaRouche’s sworn enemy in Congress. The OSI prosecuted numerous Ukrainians early on, but LaRouche was plausibly more concerned for the Nazi nuclear scientist — brought to the United States via Operation Paperclip — associated with his Fusion Energy Foundation. How’s that for “green fascism”?

Weird response from Jose Vega from a politician responding to a demonstration from the org he is involved with.

Reviewing a Jackson Hinckle space.

tbh larouche cultists always go with the ukrainians bad instead of the mic bad.

Uh. Huh. Those shunning the rage against the war machine rally are commiting the same mistake that trotsky made by not allying with the peasantry. Ya’ll didnt do the reading, or worse, you did, and learned nothing. Yeah. The peasantry. All in abundance with the Libertarian Mises Caucus and the Larouche Schiller Institute.

So comes the thoughts of Marxists: I don’t think it’s appropriate to unite with leadership of the rally, for example… but being there as a counter to LaRouche and Mises wouldn’t be a bad idea imo. How many proletarians do you think will be in the audience? There are certainly none planning the rally. That’s to be seen I think. It could be a dud for all I know. I just think if proletarians do show up it would be advantageous for communists to be there to counter the LaRouche/Mises people. Probably not worth incrementally increasing the paltry photo op. I mean — Nobody cares about libertarian goofballs or online militia cheerleaders or Lyndon Larouche. They’re detritus. The working class doesn’t even know who these losers are, which is why nobody shows up to their lame events.

Memories

When I was about 18, I was dumb enough to give my number to a LaRouche loon at a table in front of the grocery store (under the guise of “getting out the vote”). I then was stalked on the phone for a week but after 1 day, I realized they were lunatic & eventually had them blocked

I used to get LaRouche pamphlets shoved under my dorm door every year at college; never laid eyes on the actual distributors.

I used to see a guy who was a LaRoche fan outside of the local motor vehicle office. Had all this anti-papal nonsense and anti-royal family stuff posted on a folding table. Unsure what his point was except to be seen.

As a side note, I was working in Kucinich’s office at the time, and I remember someone called me to say the Queen of England was behind it, I guess because it was BP. I think that may have been a LaRouche thing, not sure.

I was always deeply charmed by the extreme earnestness of the LaRouche tablers in Union Square— they sort of embodied, bore within themselves, Reddit before Reddit was a thing. one day during grad school some showed up and set up a booth in front of the student union, I was positively giddy, it was like getting to see a rare bird of which I’d known for years but never dreamed I’d get to see in the wild

In college a Larouchite told me that I was being too objective for asking him if LaRouche had any platform other than “British Empire Bad.”

I remember the larouchites. Think I went with my parents to the DMV once when I was a kid, and there were a bunch of them standing outside with signs that said “LaRouche.” I think I heard one of them was asserting that he was the real president.

Uh oh.

I couldn’t stop laughing when I saw these folks in front of the Columbia campus. “China and Russia are not the real enemy. Global Britain is.” What the actual heck. The king of the UK?? Really??

Complete with Diane Sare for us senate headed poster — and in repky:

Looks like Larouchite https://larouchepac.com/diane-sare?page=10… They are obsessed with the British monarchy

Can’t get away from lpac. The spectre looms over Diane Dare forever and ever, in the archives of the competing larouche group’s history.

I was made aware of the existence of the Larouche movement today. Truly crazy

Had these guys, the Hare Krishnas, and the Revolutionary Communist Party political cult on campus at Kent State in the early to mid aughts.

Solomon Pena

He also posted a photo of himself manning a table for LaRouchePAC at a Pennsylvania Trump rally in May of 2022.

One of his text messages included a message from the book Stuffing the Ballot Box, a 2002 academic study regarding fraud and electoral reform in Costa Rica: “It was only the additional incentive of a threat of civil war that empowered a president to complete the reformist project,” which was seen an expression regarding the idea of an upcoming civil war within the United States.

In an interview with the Times, former New Mexico Republican Party Chairman Harvey Yates said that he felt “very bad, very sad” about what had happened with Pena, whom he said “really had possibilities.”

Yates, who gave $5,000 to Pena’s campaign last year, also told the Times that Pena “came across to me as a very respectful, thoughtful young man” when he met him.

However, the Times notes that Pena had a long history of making incendiary and conspiratorial posts on social media, including calls to throw 2020 election officials into Guantanamo Bay and rants against “the demonic theories of the Globalist Elites.”

Maybe the US has only gotten lucky there haven’t been more assassinations already,”...

Who’s the Bonehead of the Week? Contestants: Rep. George Santos Solomon Pena Alina Habba Only one attempted murderer in the group. Santos is the cleanest of the three.

Splitting hairs on Jan 6.

Andy Ngo continues on Leftwing cranks beat.

LORG-er tweets response to Swalwell posting a death threat message: This is a really whiney feed.

It’s really funny that the LaRouchies will like concoct a conspiracy theory that links Brace Belden to the British Royal Family, but then get outraged if you suggest that they have some political connection to the “LaRouchePAC

We have no affiliation with Peña or the “LaRouche PAC” he worked with. His behaviors reflect on himself directly and on those who chose to endorse / support his campaign.

This guy has the right idea.: Julian Pena, who identified himself as a cousin of Solomon Pena, answered the phone at the home. He said he would talk – for the right price. He went on, “I mean, hey man, if CNN wants to call me and they want to work out a money arrangement. I’m all for that.”

On the Ground

Austin. Hey. That’s lpac territory! Santa Rosa. Georgetown Texas. Lyndon LaRouche, long may he hornswoggle. Even from the grave.

LORG disrupts AOC. Nick Brana jumps in with kudos.

Methinks this guy doesn’t know “first amendment” definition. you say you support everyone’s first amendment right but you had these people kicked out? That there is what we call a hypocrite lady! You are so phony! You care nothing about the citizens you represent just the attention power from service in congress! Disgraceful.

The New York Post describes her as “far left“. As link bait goes, this does pale to “Adult star-turned-data scientist: I had more sex than showers in 2022”.

Uh oh. Annoying voice woman. you’re a larouche tool. Larouche pac is totally infiltrated by Zionist boomer operatives. Sucking up to Zionists while crying about Ukrainian nationalists. Sad!

A real organization that really exists in reality. “Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.”

Leftists” humping LaRouche. Dumpster fire.

Imagine being understandably done with both war parties and then getting hosed into thinking Lyndon Fucking LaRouche was the answer. This is why we can’t have nice things.

Why does the LaRouche movement like AOC so much (such as serenading her here–she even thanked them)?

I know! I don’t think they were prepared for a literal chorus intervention! Yeah they were. They removed them from the audience, did they not?

@WellKnownEquine explaining the ghoulish web of Lyndon Larouche and his dorky acolytes Come argue with Pat about the dirt bridge and how it’s not a cult or whatever. Twitch thingy.

I can handle the right wingers on my TL. I can handle the Trotskyists and anarchists on my TL. But where the fuck did all these LaRouche fuckers come from? It’s in the Twitter Zeitgiest: Hedonic Post-Mortality LaRouche Mariana Trench Liberation Casino Establishes Juche-Punk.

The mind reels:

To be fair, only some of the things the Larouchies don’t like over the years have been Hitler. Others have been Mussolini. Biden for instance.

Helga’s event: Everyone’s applauding at the Bolivar Hall as Madam LaRouche describes how climate change is a satanic conspiracy cooked up by the British monarchy.

Space Larouche hitting it off with a Josh Hawley staffer. Biden voting Richard Spencer likes what he hears from Hawley.

LPAC loves themselves Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz.

Caleb Maupin is back. anti vaxxer “patriots” attacking PeoplesForumNYC 1804 Books over some perceived “mandate” ?? wtf is this and why is cpi_usa promoting this sort of behavior? This is… Insane.

Historical notes

LaRouche using Feurbach to come up with a fascist-socialist conception of the ubermensch is fucking crazy lmao

In his footnote LaRouche also praises two books, Karl Kautsky?s Foundations of Christianity – which he describes as Kautsky?s “one truly important contribution” to history — and Abram (Abraham) Leon?s The Jewish Question: A Marxist Interpretation.”

Gravel – Jones – Larouche 2015.

Never heard of these papers, but the fact that West Village micro-newspapers were running 9/11 truth and LaRouche articles is 0% surprising. Inside New York City’s Smallest (and Nastiest) Newspaper War — the West view News includes —

In 2018, Ms. Berke invited a group called the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry to the house to present the case that Building 7 of the World Trade Center was brought down not by planes but by explosives placed ahead of time. Over the staff’s objections, the paper began running articles about the theory, including two by members of groups promoting it.

Ms. Berke also brought in articles by Diane Sare, a Senate candidate for the LaRouche Party, a fringe-right group.

“She was a corroding force,” said Liza Whiting, who worked as the paper’s traffic manager for about 10 years. “She comes across as being reasonable. But any person, if you spend more than a half-hour with Dusty, you realize that she’s a bit of a wacko.”

A history of lpac challenging the results in their election losses.

Lyndon LaRouche would be absolutely thriving nowadays.

LOL LaRouche – they exited handing out literature in US Airports about 20 years ago, and boom up they pop on Russian TV. LOL Oh where were you all these years?, FYI They are the official scientific but completely nuts organization for the world.

LaRouche began as a Marxist and then drifted into a sort of hi-tech Whig. I remember on campus I would occasionally grab his free New Federalist newspaper- a fascinating read, never a dull moment.

Some things have gone awfully wrong in your life for you to get into Lyndon LaRouche in the year 2023.

Holy crap! William McKinley assassination conspiracy theories!

NAWAPA Lives. You’ve been duped. This document was a stunt filed by a crackpot group called the LaRouche PAC trying to revive a dead project called the NAWAPA. You can see their name several times on the docs in your video (for example, at bottom of video at 9:30 mark)

These guys are from the Larouche organization- you can’t be including them in a rational discussion about healthcare considering they lobbied to have all HIV patients imprisoned because their leader said HIV is an airborne disease.

Didn’t Larouchites kinda prefigure that shtick? I remember a doc with hitchens getting annoyed at a Larouche org guy… they just seemed to pick lame targets

Haven’t heard this line before. No stupid. The CP’ers were attacking female members. We went to them and said if you don’t stop, the LaRouche movement would beat the crap out of them. They made the decision to continue so they got their asses handed to them. They’ve been crying like babies ever since.

Massachusetts 1994 gubernatorial race. I guarantee you they chose this race because Bill Weld was one of the lead prosecutors that got LaRouche put in jail, this is next level hating

By any modern recounting of his elite-minded philosophy, Plato sucked. Even assuming something close to the worst with NATO, NATO beats Plato.

Great news, you can watch Lyndon LaRouche’s 30-minute ad he put on NBC (over their objections) during his presidential campaign, in which he predicts enslavement of Mexico, genocidal famine, and nuclear war by 1977 if Carter wins

I guess larouche liked mcgovern. Depends on when and to whom. Also O’Malley, he liked his democrat liberals. That one was weird. Creeped the O’Malley folks out.

in 1986 republican candidate for Oklahoma governor Billy Joe Clegg declared himself to be a laroucheite but was snubbed by the larouche organization he said it was because of how dry he wasSee here.

There you go. As discussed to Conan O’brien. Jane Fonda started doing her workout videos as a response to Lyndon Larouche.

Comparisons

Manly p Hall. Pol Pot and Pinochet. Great list of proletarian heroes. Michael Tracey. Steven Seagal. Epoch Times, to Senator Ron Johnson. Kari Lake. Marianne Williamson. Drew Pavlou. Alan Keyes and Mitt Romney. Vivek Ramaswamy.

I must say — I have not heard feminism described as “Satanic“.

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LaRouche would be SEETHING at how conformist and one note his successors turned out to be. Jackson Hinkle goes his own way: Wasn’t the whole point of these LaRouche weirdos to try and join China’s Belt and Road under the guise of left wing nationalism? I have long accepted that all antiestablishment groups are all the same and are against whatever the current thing is. If Biden had shot it down over Montana he’d be posting about how he was putting the lives of rural Americans at risk.

Marx’s greatest failure was that his work was not impervious to Satanic Malthusian Degrowth Gaia Worshipping NATO Nazis like you who use it as rhetorical shield to continue the project of international poverty, imperialism and genocide. LaRouche word salad, lmao

I always found it strange how John Coleman, Lyndon Larouche and Mullins have claimed that Hayek was one of their agents without any info backing it. Larouche is a Fabian imo, Coleman hard to pin down .

Years ago I laughed every time I read the bizarre ranting words of “Lyndon Larouche” never dreaming that someday I’d be hearing Benedict Donald Traitor Trump even worse. We oughta rename him Lyndon LaDouche

Slightly puzzled on this, as the only thing I get from the right on monkey pox is how completely connected to gross homosexual activity it is.

The NAFTA Superhighway in retrospect.

Its so fucked up. They’re connected to LaRouche and every single one of them seems to be into public humiliation.

LaRouche considers modern math to be a deep state (Cult of Apollo) corruption of sacred geometry. Base 10 has little to do with reality. We probably should be using Base 12. The devil loves to separate what is whole: hence the equals sign cutting things into 2 pieces to compare.

American Student Union“?

I set my dating app profile to religion: Zoroastrian politics: LaRouche age: 23 looking for: a forever wife and I have zero matches Clearly society is toast. For the original Twitterer here — you know there is a thing called “Christian Mingle”, right? Or… Church socials. Such things.

Answer: one does.

Chris Williamson.

World News

China Eradicated Poverty, says Havard educated China government stooge.

Jason Ross “likes” Something Awful.

Haz versus Maupin. Haz 2036.

Working on an earnest 20-tweet thread about how Twitter is in league with the Larouche cult.

Inter-connections: Thanks for the hint. “Munich stands up” is currently making contact with the LaRouche political sect and at #muc1802 gets inflows from supporters of the right-wing extremist Compact magazine and the AfD. Belarus traveler Bystron will speak to them beforehand. There grows together…

The “Spotlight” program on Iran’s Press-TV Thursday evening featured a debate between the Schiller Institute’s Harley Schlanger and the Chairman of the Ukraine World Congress, Andriy Dobrianskiy.

The Internal Conflicts in the Young Campaign

Odd contradictions. Working with the Young campaign, we found that the LaRouchians were really no big deal, but the smears that came out any time anybody even stood near them were ridiculous. Young begged to differ.

History with Young. used to follow me on here but he posted that anti-imperialists should support Ron DeSantis “because he isn’t a war criminal”. DeSantis was a lawyer at Guantanamo Bay overseeing torture, I said “That is stupid” in his comments and he blocked me. I’m telling you he started saying weird positive shit about LaRouche after he lost last election but never openly admitted to being a member, he thought I was the shit as long as I was clowning on the Michigan Manlet. The second I shit on LaRouche I caught a block.

Geoffrey Young follows Jerry Belsky.

Space Larouche Anti-Trump Republican: Only thing a lot of you “never again” candidates have in common is losing. Not very concrete. What do you want in a candidate? This is in response to a collage of four losers in the last election.

I have no goddamned clue what this means. oh I see they’re blaming the gay guy for the clouds of hydrochloric acid in Ohio because he beat the pseudo-socialist they don’t even like any more in Iowa they’re going to be claiming JFK will be resurrected on the grassy knoll and only LaRouche Thought can prevent this

Sare brought home half a percent of the vote; she was routed by blank ballots. But winning elections was never really the point for the LaRouchies, even in their heyday, and elsewhere this fall, there were signs that LaRouchism was having a small moment. LPAC responded. LORG not really.

I don’t understand how this conspiracy works, in a hierarchical sense. The minute LaRouche exposed the leading Keynesian economist for pushing genocidal economic policies based on Nazi finance minister Hjalmar Schacht, the Washington Post made it policy for ALL media to do nothing but slander LaRouche. That’s all you’re seeing. The Washington Post of the early 1980s controlled all media, from NBC and the NY Times on to High Times and the Washington Monthly?

Coming up to the Big Rally

Yes I know how this works. Leftists get tons of people to show up at protests, 3 LaRouchites set up a table on the corner of the lawn to try to peel off participants into their insane cult, and then a few years later you pretend like you were the only ones there. That is how things worked with Iraq War opposition and Tea Party rallies and Occupy. This… Is different.

It is worth pointing out, the primary focus of Obama with Hitler was domestic policy, Health care, and not foreign policy regarding Ukraine.

pretty ballsy to call LaRouche a grift when I have never had LaRouchies ask me for money, but leftists are constantly e-begging. Charmed life. They go after bigger fish, to be sure — opposition to Obama’s Health Care had money. You may be useful for table duty.

What the fuck does Think like Beethoven mean? Does that mean be a miserable bastard to most people but compose amazing symphonies? Also Beethoven was a big fan of Napoleon at first. It’s just an attempt to say something aesthetically cool that doesn’t mean anything. The alt right is good at that.

Moon Unit Alpha will save the day… But the LaRouche’s have this weird obsession with the tuning of the A Key….

Putin Rules, We Drool

There is conspiracy theory, then there is — puts conspiracy hat on* The LaRouche movement was co-opted by Russian agents and is now co-opting both the People’s Party and the Libertarian Party. *takes conspiracy hat off*They were invited to our country affiliate meeting by our state’s Mises organizer under the guise of being “anti-war”. It was gross.

It’s because several speakers expressly support Russian warmongering. Which means they oppose U.S. warmongering, but they still support nuclear brinkmanship. Others are affiliated with the NATSEC-affiliated sex pest LaRouche movement.

Louis Cossar’s analysis.

Seymour Hersh appears to be a key conduit from Larouche to the mainstream on the (yes, warmongering and wrong headed) neoconservatives as Strasserites working new concepts never seen before. Shoddy investigative journalism there.

And by the way, LaRouche supporters would have shown up to this rally anyway and in all likelihood created a scene if no LaRoucher was formally involved, which would take away from the rally’s point and achievements.

Further warnings.

LaRouche called Putin “President of the Universe.”

Ho Boy! If you aren’t going to be in NYC, you can still get to some of these sister rallies!!

Nuclear Holocaust” is an interesting choice of words, since it’s the only kind of Holocaust whose perpetrators Lyndon Larouche didn’t actively seek to surround himself with.

The Event

Also out re recruiting in those parts: Several neo-Nazis that attended and helped organize the deadly ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, VA, claim they are in communication with the organizers of the ‘Rage Against the War Machine,’ rally in Washington DC, which is bringing together various pro-Putin trolls, far-Right grifters, and conspiracy theorists.

According to a livestream from the “Patriotic Socialist Front,” which includes long-time neo-Nazi organizer Matthew Heimbach, former member of Vanguard America and Ohio National Guardsman, Shandon Simpson, and the leader of the group, “Andrew,” the organization plans to travel to the ‘Rage Against the War Machine’ rally in DC, fly a “National Bolshevik” flag, and also table at the event. During the livestream, Simpson states that Heimbach, “has had more communications with some of the people involved…”

Predictably this event is swarming with LaRouchites, who are using it to recruit: gathering names, signing them up for newsletter subscriptions, inviting folks to their next meeting. They were crystal clear about this during their last recruitment meeting: it’s why they’re here.

Webster Tarpley mocks it. Does not mention Larouche. Then again, neither does the wsws article.

Crowd is modest; passersby wondering what it is. Very much the libertarian crowd (who sponsored it) and absolutely thick with Larouche presence; they seem to perhaps be involved in organizing too.

There’s got to be tens of people there! Most of them are like “let’s stroll over there and see what’s going on”. There are more people waiting in line to get a beer at a Roger Waters concert than there are at the “rally.”

They absolutely did not advertise Lyndon LaRouche’s wife as one of the speakers. This woman was literally an informant on peace groups in Germany.

Listen, I respect the peace through development idea of the LaRouche people but from this rally I just attended, theyve got a weird way of talking to people man. It’s very potent the strangeness. Randomly bringing up the point, people are trying to kill Diane Sare like ok…

Dennis Kucinich gets drowned out

Larouche people have been stopping me all day

very much the opposite of democratic.

Old Guy walks by

The sign in support of Pope Francis and Lula is Larouche Schiller Institute garbage. Decades ago, many people within the Larouche Institute would have warned the world about the Schiller Institute and what they became if they saw this sign.

Hm. Jimmy Dore now speaking. This rally is basically Twitter trolls jumping to the real world. LaRouche banner has disappeared. Dennis Kucinich did not get it down. You would think it might reappear when Diane Sare takes to the man, but nope. Debatable if it means much for Dore: The fact that the biggest sign at that rally is for Lyndon LaRouche speaks volumes about the crowd that Dore is now cultivating.

Dore sets up his run for presidency. Curious this:

Trump was a Democrat too. Dore repeated his stand up act essentially verbatim on Tucker Carlson the next week.

McArdle stands before the sign.

Question to Anya Parampil : why did you crop the big helga zepp larouche sign out of your profile picture

Those of us who lived through the “oh, y’all are the Lyndon LaRouche party” DECADES that we’d JUST painfully crawled out of are DELIGHTED to see our Party Chair featuring a shot of herself in front of a larouchie banner

The question for the Libertarian Party contingent: The LP has been relatively silent about the failed rally embarrassment. As part of spending the week trying to gaslight that “thousands” were in attendance, Angela posted pictures to the public list that are clearly not from the rally, but what appear to be an event in Germany.

Scott Ritter, who spoke at the “after-party” for the rally, and no less than two speakers complained about him not speaking during, celebrated the 1 year anniversary of Russian aggression throwing back shots with Russian military officials. It was never about “anti-war“.

There were very few LP people, and from being there, the largest group of people was the Larouche cult.

Tulsi Gabbard speaks. Of course you blurred and cropped out the LaRouche flags waving behind. I’m sure the average FOX News viewer would be excited to hear about your support for a land-bridge with COMMUNIST CHINA

If only the US would get off it’s butt and build that trans-Bearing Strait monorail that LaRouche and his minions advocated for in his 1980s Presidential campaigns, then all of the world’s problems would be solved!

Wonder if there are Moonies there too?

I have been handed at least a dozen flyers from volunteers wearing signs on their chests for the schiller institute, the think tank founded by lyndon larouche’s widow, helga zepp-larouche. the schiller institute has called for an end to sanctions on russia. it feels like someone cast a spell on lyndon larouche’s wikipedia page while watching infowars in another tab and something terrible was brought to life at the lincoln memorial.

A feature, not a bug. Why was there a massive LaRouche membership drive at this event?

the man, the myth, the legend, hero of the liberty movement” ron paul takes the stage to chants of “end the fed! end the fed!” paul says he’s energized to be here with so many friends of liberty.

I am more curious about the “Ukraine Laundromat” sign.

Kucinich, Tulsi, Ron Paul and even Lyndon Friggin’ Larouche’s widow. Ladies and gentlemen, the 1962 New York Mets.

I’ve lived most of my life in D.C. Those LaRouche people practically live on 17th street. They show up to everything. They do not represent the LP. Unless you want force used against them, they’re going to show up.

OMG larouche is still around? Lol!

Blast from the Past: The LaRouchies were at this rally! The LaRouchies — the 1980’s “snakes in your mailbox” people! For those of you fortunate enough to miss this era, they were the QAnon of the late 20th Cent. Batshit and violent. And they went to this rally!!!!

Small group of LaRouchies on the train. They’re talking amongst each other and acting in a sane manner. So different from my experiences with them in the past. They’re not evangelizing. I’m just impressed by their demeanor and level of decorum. Even Jehovah’s Witnesses take a break sometimes.

I used to like Brana & the People’s Party but now he’s literally platforming larouche supporters & far right libertarians. Not only are these people right wing, they’re fringe figures who won’t even help them grow a movement. What and absolutely joke of a movement they have now.

An easily disputed point. I was just there. Those people with the Russian flags showed up for a short time, just long enough to get pictures for people to be upset by. There’s no way they weren’t counter protestors. Graze along and quote speakers. Apparently Ron Paul got them out of his photo-crops. It’s kind of funny that the “good” photo of McArdle has her standing in front of a LaRouche sign, as if that’s in any way better.

A creepy message from the Larouche movement regarding Zelensky. Follow the logic of this post and it amounts to hypocrisy on their part. Hm. Scott Ritter, twice an online sex pest — stung in a police sting pretending to be underaged girls.

the funniest thing about LaRouche/Schiller is their “land bridge” they propose a map where one of the roads goes through some of the tallest coldest mountains in North America and emerges in the middle of nowhere only to cross over to a place where nobody lives in Russia.

Roger Waters. came on the car radio, & nothing in the lyrics can compete with the pathos of realizing that exactly 50 years later its author would become a tankie-imperialist speaker at LaRouche-infested rallies, hanging on in quiet desperation indeed

DC media coverage channel 8.

Maddow has mentioned Larouche like 6 times in 15 years. Damned if you cover things, damned if you don’t. Space Commune YouTube commenter: MSNBC’S hit piece had no interviews either. Would have been hilarious if they interviewed the CPI Russia flag guys. I…. guess?

Podcast land has Gadfly previewing then reviewing. Russell Brand interviewing Dave DeCamp — likely pro that thing. Here is your Diane Sare interview. And Amanda Moore looks at the scene.

In another day

Friday, February 17th, 2023

Cynically I may ask if this is the “FDR’s Corpse wins” of his final re-election bid.

Desantis did win a landslude, so you gotta hand it to him for that whether you like it or not. It was against a bad candidate who dragged the Democrats good Senate candidate down — much, I suppose, as I can say the bad Georgia gubernatorial candidate dragged the Senate candidate a bit. (And then duck from the standard Nation reader hurling a brick at me. And back up to suggest — they probably did not have a better candidate and the strengths of her against her considerable weaknesses as a candidate this cycle equals a wash.)

On the culture war front, I do find the basic details of his college president switch kind of intriguing. He put Chris Rufo in charge of what are the hippy college contingency in the state colleges. Florida’s equivalents of Evergreen College. This is worth noting as the college board spits out artistes and creatives, and there you see a wrinkle as against — oh, I see this headline —

The excited hand clap from Huffington Post congratulating a celebrity for sharing the same opinion and enemies. The basic theory here would be that the Florida grade-less projects can shuffle forward without the stringent rules of an overbearing board calculating micro-aggressions. In this sense, and I have not really looked at the other grand culture war fights (except for against Disney where he happened tone taking your Naderite liberal stand against corporate welfare and favors) — but this one… is kind of interesting. Never mind it bumping against the rubric of the Washington Monthly.

Super Big Game Culture War Doldrums

Tuesday, February 14th, 2023

A politician who gets their name short-handed to their three initials is in good shape. FDR, JFK, LBJ… RFK was known at least. I don’t know of any elected figure beyond them off the top of my mind, so until I do I guess this means AOC has a three in four shot of gaining the presidency. Today I see the headline that she does not like the Jesus commercial in the Superbowl. If it is the same basic premise of the Jesus commercials playing throughout this past football season, it is obnoxiously innocuous fare. Maybe you can quibble with the underlying messages beyond the Christian selling. The reference I see in the news story is to the admonishment that we ought be more like children — with a further message that children are kind and fair and unselfish. I would tend to quibble on that — a bit of a contradiction in children, certainly babies are as selfish as can be and I would further suggest that if children’s innate curiosity and behavior out of it were extrapolated to adult behavior, it would come off as the ultimate in micro-aggressions. That said, the word volleyed about, and maybe not from AOC as I see quotes from a second politician’s n come into the mix — is “fascist”. The message is “fascist”. I squint and say a “if you say so”. But I guess someone might be able to fill me in. The Real Story Behind the ‘He Gets Us’ Jesus Ads That Aired During the Super Bowl. An organization behind a series of pro-Jesus ads that aired during the Super Bowl is reportedly helping bankroll anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ legislation. All right. Assuming the worst — and they aren’t defending bakers who aren’t putting two grooms at the top of cakes or qualifying gender segregation in scholastic sports — isn’t it better for them to drop millions of bucks on this innocuous ad instead of their usual habit?

I see a headline. Trump doesn’t like Rihanna’s show. Interestingly, a writer for the National Review did like it — yah pregnancy and a “pro-life” message whether she likes it or not, but then Trump always had beef with them. As he does with Rihanna apparently. At this point Trump slides to a celebrity envious of another celebrity, as he was in a prep political life so he is in post office. A curious thing on Rihanna. I saw the ads stumping her half time show. Something about a massive fur (or faux fur perhaps) coat. I had no idea who this was, but presumed it someone famous. That was obvious by the fact that they did not say her name — they did not have to because anyone who does not know her on site is just hopelessly out of touch. I simply have not noted her in several years. She looks several years older than she did several years ago. That is the only thing I note about her. Also some conservatives deride something about her show. Including Trump. I will take their word for it that they have their reasons to do so that make sense to them. They could have changed the channel to the Puppy Bowl if they cared so much. Which I see “Team Fluff” won, whatever “winning” is in that event.

Another headline. M and Ms Spokes-candies are back. I don’t even know what the issue was. We’re there new gender non conforming candies cannibalizing each other? But what — the entire controversy was a publicity stunt?

There was a commercial with the characters from Breaking Bad selling A new snack chip as the next Meth. Interesting promotional idea, I suppose. Though, I see no outrage over it. Everyone likes meth chips, I guess.

the new abnormal

Wednesday, February 8th, 2023

I am old enough to remember Cindy Sheehan getting booted out before a George W Bush State of the Union address. The immediate claimed she could deploy for matyrdom reason was that she had on a t-shirt which tv cameras could jump to as against George W Bush’s Iraq War messaging, but the more sensible reason was a very real possibility she would shout at some point in the speech and make a scene to get her dragged out.

Today we have some of Joe Wilson’s babies. That congressman made a pile of campaign cash after shouting “You Lie!” at a Barack Obama State of the Union Address. Two facedly he issued an apology as he raked in the notoriety and “Tea Party” fan base praise. Enter the news blips coming in before yesterday, Kevin McCarthy reportedly issuing the edicts to his caucus — Don’t do this. And with that we knew we were, on this score, screwed. Yeah, sure — how many ballots did it take to get McCarthy over?

In a purely political sense on donkeys v elephants, President Biden knew this was coming and was prepared to capitalize. Which, for him, is good if you take the “senile old dodderer” line — it would be a bad show if he had to come in purely off the cuff.

embattled mayor syndrome

Friday, February 3rd, 2023

This odd point of disjunction in politics, where I hear a pundit describe the political fortunes of the unpopular mayor of Chicago with a reference to brusque crudeness and a caveat that “it is not how I would want my mayor to behave, and I would take it as a minus in voting” but “this is Chicago, home of Mayor Daley the First” so “it will be interesting to witness the gender and racial dynamics for this black woman mayor.”

Dissect it a couple directions. The pundit has absolved herself of any charges in racism and sexism in the event that she shows no support. The citizens of Chicago, though, aren’t allowed to respond in the manner she does because of comparisons to past popular support of mayor few of them were alive to vote for or against, and which much historian commentary paints on an ugly face.

Maybe someone can “Recreate 68” and test Chicago’s mayor against her Lost in Time predecessor.

complexes become simplicitos

Friday, January 27th, 2023

Why does this headline amount to “Experts believe Mass Murderers are Angry”? or maybe ” Alienated”? Really getting at the root cause with this one! On the other hand, this exercise in surface level psychology does avoid the pitfalls that come with devising complexes and complexities that slump to diagnosing post-fact “Mass Shooter Disease”.

The redone automated replacement headline teaser maybe comes closer to being useful. Though, as generally the case, solving the problem comes beside the point in solving or addressing a broader problem of which “mass shooting” is a tail off from.

Hiccups

Friday, January 20th, 2023

Make of the article what you want, and make of the history and editorial direction and sociological facets of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition — but I find myself tripping over this straight-laced description of one model.

The 20-year-old social media star and Sports Illustrated Swimsuit rookie 

And, news wise, entertainment reportages continue on this score.

“Rookie”. And this one is a 40 year old rookie at that. Like, she was in the minor leagues for years and just got her call up now. Or, in football terms, hopefully she is not another Chris Weinke.

I am quite alright with the magazine using this sports language for their historically cheesecake but a tad confused as they try to juggle conflicting and conflicted political imperatives and people with Twitter accounts mock the likes of Tucker Carlson for overly complaining or pointing it out magazine. And maybe the broader news media is all right to follow suit as — it is not like they are covering actual news with these rips of the magazine’s promotional copy. But it still just reads oddly.

game theory and Dobbs leaks

Friday, January 20th, 2023

Pursuing comments section on some conservative sites regarding the declaration that — we couldn’t find the culprit — who leaked the Dobbs decision, I am astounded by the absolute certainty they have (and we saw it with, I think it was either Senator Cruz or Graham, in making the claim as a statement of fact with the answer on why they think so that “I’m not an idiot”) that it came from a liberal clerk or justice with the intent on pressuring A change. And I have no idea — maybe they are right — but it is the logic for their reasoning that falls apart. I see the comparison to a Hail Mary pass to change the outcome — not at all likely but the only thing that could go. But game theory works against this. At that juncture, the Dobbs decision was not written in stone, and Chief Justice Roberts was still scrambling to find a “center” where none existed. The only chance of maintaining Roe was for him to be able to do so. The leak foreclosed the possibility, as it would bring to bear the impression that any decision to change would be coming from public pressure.

The more logical reason for leaking from a liberal justice employee is simple astonishment, and inability to maintain a secret for the momentous decision. The problem there is that that would be the same reason for a conservative justice employee. Hell — maybe the reporter got the news from both sides, and the only difference was the tone of voice — forlorn versus jubilant.

On the football metaphor, as a “game changer” attempt, I am reminded of the first Monday Night Football game of the season where the Denver Broncos ended the game with a long long long field goal, analytics suggest a 2 percent chance of succeeding, versus an attempted fourth down pass, analytics suggest a 40-something percent chance with a quarterback theoretically signed to a lucrative enough contract to up that percentage and to at least set up a field goal with a high likelihood of going in. Peyton Manning’s dry comment was “I like the field goal approach, because the Hail Mary always resulted in my third interception off the day.”

Meanwhile I see a dishonest headline at The Nation. “The institution whose members claim to have the power to see into the minds of dead people couldn’t figure out who leaked the Dobbs draft.”. That is an obnoxious take. Though last I saw in Supreme Court analysis, Pollit gave the aside that ” we need to do more of that” when Senator Flake delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation after being harrangued in the elevator — something I doubt she would think well of if politics were reversed and for that matter supports the conservative comment stream on the Dobbs leaker.

My somewhat cynical take is that maybe Roberts would just as soon let this pass and get swept under the rug, a quick whispered “don’t do this again” to anyone he may strongly suspect but can’t nail down.

Solomon Pena, Larouchepac, and domestic terrorism

Thursday, January 19th, 2023

I could never quite make heads or tails of the allegations that came from Rachel Brown’s defeat at the hands of Barney Frank. Rachel Brown was on her way to victory — you could see in the gestalt of the popular sentiment on the streets of Boston. But then something called the “Vault” stepped in, and flooded the zone. What did seem certain is that even while trying to gild Rachel Brown’s ego just enough but not too much, while having no interest in her thinking she won the vote. She was up against a political machine juggarnaut. The Boston Vault which stepped in — as votes were being cast and cast for Rachel Brown — to hypnotize the populace with a false consciousness — so voters were now casting their lot with Barney Frank.

It is a difference to the like of Diane Sare now on the Helga “we are Russian and Chinese propagandists first and foremost” part of the Larouche split. (Their secondary purpose, at least domestically, is to troll left wing activists). After the election, and her third place fraction of a percentage showing against Chuck Schumer, she construed unofficial tabulation reporting discrepancies as a sign of electioneering shenanigans. It got her on Jimmy Dore. Here we get the difference on Hillary Clinton after 2016 and Donald after 2020. “Russian interference” is propaganda and disinformation that leads to false consciousness whereas Trump declared victory on election night then claimed the election was thereafter falsely tabulated against him. The post 2016 Clinton and Democratic fight has its problems — a supposition of what a right-minded voter needs believe. It is where I see a news article article from the NYTimes or Washington Post or some such passes by exploring the psychological reasons people oppose Abortion and favor abortion restrictions. It seems to be a bubble where viewpoints held by forty something percent of the populace is construed as coming from psychological defects — that is to say, false consciousness, propagandized by nefarious sources. In the sometimes funny case of the 2016 election, we ended up with a silly Facebook page image of Satan and Jesus arm-wrestling — proxies for Clinton versus Trump — a Facebook page that struck me as having a right to exist whether or not it was put up on behest of the Russian government. But the problems there are quite apart from the problems where Trump is baselessly construing the votes are falsely going against him and — more so — action needs to be taken. From there you can debate what happened at January 6th.

And next comes Solomon Pena. Of Larouchepac — the Larouche movement split which is largely a gritting outfit to grab money from Trump Supporters. He lost an election. And now.

Isthis our first LaRouche mass shooter?

At the risk of being tone deaf, “mass shooter” has a definition and Solomon Pena’s act of terrorism does not cover it. This is a shooting spree. And to be sure, here is the equation at work: One of the witnesses, according to the AP, said one of the men told the shooters to aim above the homes’ windows to avoid striking anyone inside, but Pena showed up for the Lopez shooting “to ensure better target acquisition.”  Or: “There is some information from a confidential informant that says that he was disappointed that apparently that no one had actually been hit and that he wanted them to aim lower in the house and the structure so that the chances of somebody being hit were greater,” Day said. The hit men hired seemed to have the ” sending a message, don’t kill” theory as against the bolder Pena stance. Pena, the complaint states, “wanted them to aim lower and shoot around 8 p.m. because occupants would more likely not be laying down.” The witness adds that the more aggressive approach made the gunmen uneasy “since they knew doing so would more likely end in death or injury.”.

Yeah, the Schiller people are def gonna call this guy a fed or an MKULTRA programmed assassin The correct answer is… FBI. LPAC are FBI agents who abandonded LaRouches mission — Dear lord, even while disclaiming it, they pivot blame to a deep state that is after them.

Notice to Solomon Pena: your act is not helping us colonize the moon or alleviate human suffering. On the basis of how you argued against political adversaries with different priorities, you fell short.

My partner got into difficult, unsolicited conversations with him as she came in and out of the building,” Bode said. “He’s not a polite, nice person.”

You didn’t necessarily want to get in the elevator with him, because you may not have a nice conversation,” Parks said. “He was a little belligerent in his tone sometimes.”

Over from LORG:

The organization which killed Kennedy was called Permindex founded in 1958. The head of Permindex was Louis Mortimer Bloomfield of Montreal, a major in British intelligence who was personal advisor to J. Edgar Hoover for Division 5 of the FBI.” — Lyndon LaRouche (1995)

Sure. And the organization that tried to kill Linda Lopez, Javier Martinez, Debbie O’Malley, and Adriann Barboa is Larouchepac. Not affiliated with LORG.

And his post election tweet: Coupled with the article on his criminal background lead me to the flippant thought “this can not end well”.

New Republic (in case you need to deal with visit limits): Pena embraced Trump’s election denialism, even appearing to attend the January 6 rally that turned into the insurrection, according to a photo he shared on Twitter. He repeatedly insisted that his own election was rigged. After the results were in, he approached three of the four targeted Democratic officials at their homes, claiming he had proof the election was fraudulent and arguing it should not be certified. The Bernalillo County Board of Commissioners voted unanimously to certify the election results.

There is a curious problem round about here. CNN has reached out to Peña’s campaign website for comment and has been unable to identify his attorney. Which matches the problem on some generalized partisan grinding in comments land which gets forced and nonsensical, or at least in germane to the topic. See this: This also reinforces the need for the updates to the voting rights act so gerrymandering and the anti-democracy aspects of recent Republican state laws can be minimized. Gerrymandering. It is a majority Democratic district in a majority Democratic state. Unless the suggestion is the districts need to be drawn so that the Republican give two shits about contesting every district instead of letting a hothead lunatic get his name on the ballot unopposed by someone who knows they are in for a November loss — such a move is impossible. The majority of our elections are not competitive, and it would be a bad sign if a majority were. So, par for the course in the sense of “some guy in a non competitive race”, CNN can’t reach the campaign website for the culprit’s campaign — a campaign that was composed of basically just the culprit — and maybe the driver — or that which by chance implicates beyond “lone gunman” and paid thugs into organization:

The officer found bullet casings matching a handgun found later that morning in a Nissan Maxima registered to Pena. Around 1:30 a.m., about an hour after the shooting at Lopez’s home, police stopped the Nissan about 4 miles (6 kilometers) from the lawmaker’s neighborhood.

The driver, identified Monday night as Jose Trujillo, was arrested on an outstanding warrant, leading to the discovery of more than 800 fentanyl pills and two firearms in the car, police said.

Though, it is worth mentioning this is not the election LPAC was most hyping up. That one was California AD 18 with Mindy Pechenuk. (Of that Pechenuk clan that continues to plague Oakland city council meetings minutes.)

Operation Mop-Up 2?

Bernalillo County’s district attorney said he will personally prosecute the case against Peña because he’s “pissed off” about what he calls “an attack on our democracy.”

“When you attack elected officials with violence, it is an attack on our democracy. It is unacceptable at every level. It doesn’t matter if they’re Democrats or Republicans,” District Attorney Sam Bregman said.

“Quite frankly, the community’s pissed off about this stuff. And so am I.”

Hm. Ironic. Use the politically unpc term from our previous president, “shithole countries”, and appreciate who is dragging it in that direction:

State House Speaker Javier Martinez, another official who police said was targeted in the shootings, said that the events of the past month reminded him of violence in his birth country of Mexico. 

“(Mexico) is a place where politics and journalism can actually get you killed,” Martinez said. “I would have never thought that could be the case in my own country, here.”

Curious. And with the caveat that this is speculation, it is trying to come up with the most coherent defense.

Multiple witnesses have said that Peña believed the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump, and he believed his own election loss was the result of fraud, and Cevallos said that sets up the possibility that his defense attorneys will blame the former president for his crime.

I have to bring us back to the Jan. 6 prosecutions in which some of the defendants raised the defense of ‘Trump made me do it,’ and that was really interesting because, as a defense attorney, you don’t get to pick your facts,” Cevallos said. “Prosecutors pick the facts they take to trial, so in fairness to the defense, as wacky as that defense sounds, ‘Trump made me go into the Capitol,’ sometimes as a defense attorney you don’t have a lot. You come up with whatever you can, whatever the judge will let you put into evidence, and try your best. Is it successful, probably not?”

The mere fact that it’s being considered as a possible defense tells us that we’re at a different political place in this country where you can even consider saying that the president made me do it,” he added. “That kind of defense is usually reserved to crazy people at home who think, you know, their TV is bugged or the aliens have landed in their backyard. This is not a defense you ever would have imagined 10 years ago or even six, seven years ago. It’s madness.”

They could go with “Larouche made me do it”, but then they’d have to do the ” Larouche who?”

I think the worlds most dangerous philosopher title goes to Lyndon LaRouche. The American Dryfus. Targeted with assassination , persecution, jail time and endless slander for his opposition to the Aristotelian Mafia around Bertrand Russell. Or, I guess, A “Larouche / Trump” hybrid.

Meanwhile, I speculate on fallout for LORG. See this: Watch @DianeSare intervene on Chuck Schumer fundraising luncheon this morning!! Bravo Diane! “Sare Confronts “Killer Chuck” Schumer” on YouTube.

Wow, Lyndon LaRouche, that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. Growing up in Illinois during the 70s, he was a household name, and he attracted so many of the extremist types.

If you were in Illinois during a certain era, oh yes, you knew who Lindon Larouche was. Although everybody knew who he was, I think you could honestly call him in some ways a predecessor to Qanon.

Wow. I got sucked in by them in like 2005. Escaped in 2007. nut jobs. They got me with trains. In the minority on that one: LaRouche Leftists: “We want trains! Trains! Trains! Trains!” General public: “no”.

what is up with LaRouche and his crowd? my dad is apparently sucked into his bs and has been slipping pamphlets from his org calling Ukraine Nazis under my door. weird shit.

Dunno about this next query. They’re working on a statement, I assume. Political opportunism to discredit the mega maga movement last seen by the Tony Blair forces using Jeremiah Duggan’s mom to stop Larouche from stopping the war, I think the tweet from a LORG supporter has it — though that came with more concern over saving LORG’s bacon.

Replying to @larouchepac hey I haven’t seen you guys saying much about how the guy shooting at the homes of Democratic officials in New Mexico was a big LaRouche supporter, any comment on that?

But you need to know … The feeling was mutual.