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Monday, September 6th, 2021

I. Robert Beltran’s Galaxy Quest

Robert Beltran speaks (or rather tweets) on his Larouche work, endorsing the narration on “1932”. 8 responders greet the anticipation of watching this not-much seen Beltran work, Beltran chirps in with — Don’t forget, it’s never the average citizen but the Governments of countries that cast a bad light on themselves. History exonerates the average citizen in all countries as generally honorable though often long-suffering. I’m glad you liked it. It’s a very thorough history.

Attitudes sway with anti-British biases amongst these twitterers — and an initial positive view gets dragged down.

A. Awesome!! This is wonderful. Thank you, Torri. Congratulations, Robert. Knew nothing about this. Love your voice.Of course, it shows Britain in a very bad light. I’ve done voice-over work, too. It’s fun!
B. I’m sorry, Robert, but seeing more of it, I did not like it. At all. [Marxist Lyndon LaRouche ~ Criminal investigations led to convictions of several LaRouche movement members, including LaRouche himself. He was sentenced to fifteen years imprisonment.]
C. Britain is responsible for the assassination of Lincoln, the 1st World War? Soon they’ll be telling us that Britain started the 2nd World War!! Absolute nonsense.

And a common problem is exposed — should have watched more than five minutes — with apologies: Oh dear, I feel an argument coming. I didn’t watch past 5mins (no time). Is it too late for disclaimers? If not… *The creators of Beltrivia only convey info. They are not responsible for it’s accuracy nor any relationship problems arising from it. Partake at your own risk.

Elsewhere, we see Repercussions for any Voyage reunion thrown out: Did Beltran stop being a Lyndon LaRouche democrat? ‘Cause that will be uncomfortable. You set politics aside and act professionally, but there do seem to be other personal – (indeed, political of a sort) differences and grudges with that show — both Beltran and Garret Wang not thinking their characters were fleshed out well, and a gnashing of teeth resentment that the ex-Borg character Seven of Nine was a salacious sexualized desperate grasp for ratings.

II. Ed Asner — enemy to friend

In other celebrity tidbits — the passing on of Ed Asher sparks a tweet from Daniel Burke, who walked in and around the Larouche organization a couple of times — enough for the movements to be at the ready to lob A memorial where these few tidbits of off-kilter doings become A focus of his career. It is worth plucking about to find how much he dived in and when — From the heady days of March 2004.

In more practical, current terms, LaRouche and his people had proven their stripes to the Democratic cause by printing up and distributing 500,000 copies of a magazine entitled “Who Robbed California?” which purported to tell the story of the energy deregulation disaster in California and their claim that Schwarzenegger’s rise was part of a conspiracy tied into that. . Things were fairly routine until Hollywood liberal legend Ed Asner walked into the room and sat down in front of me. It was my turn to pounce, and Ed’s turn to look stunned.
“I just [came] because I had heard contradicting rumors of him and had dismissed him because of it, but I found him very enjoyable,” said Asner. “Everything I’ve heard from him is in the progressive agenda that I entertain.
“All too often Democrats play go-along to get-along, and LaRouche shows that it’s more than the head of the pimple that’s gotta be squeezed,” Asner continued. “I support Kucinich really, and I can’t make a judgment on the time LaRouche spent [in jail] because he will not be the first person to be placed there and silenced that way in America. I am certainly aware that he is controversial, but in this case, that attracts me because I tend to be seen as controversial in the same way.”

As opposed to 1986 —

During the question-and-answer period after his talk, Asner fielded questions about President Reagan’s popularity, ecology, Central America and Lyndon LaRouche (“I’m delighted that the LaRouchies were exposed. Now when people see smart asses in the airport with signs saying ‘Nuke Jane Fonda,’ theyknow who they are.”)

Those would be the days Harley Schlanger is seen eulogizing as “taking A brave stance against South American Dirty War” (Say, what was Larouche’s stance on Reagan foreign policy right then?), insinuating a soft blacklist keeping him from big roles (Uh huh) — I suppose we get there the glad-handling reason for enticing Robert Beltran in with an allegorical play on McCarthyism.


Kesha Rogers throwing it down for LPAC; John McCarthy throwing it down for LORG. Um? He wanted you to try to change Trumpers into something better, not to turn into one. Actually, his handlers just wanted their money. He, meantime, took engrandizement where he could find it.
And then JM brings in the big insult: It’s like instead of following the real life LaRouche, you guys are following the cartoon villain version that Dennis King made up. BURN!!!
JM fails to take note — Sweetbaby Jane is with LPAC, not LORG.
And I guess this version of Larouche is with LPAC.

Outsider opines disappointing that the LaRouche movement is just seemingly all MAGA now. we need a new type of innocuous crank

Hm. did you know that big pro china parade a few years back that was shadowed by the falun dafa counterparade was all sponsored by epoch times? insane. the larouche people had a presence there too
Which faction of Larouche people? We see here load moving the way of an anti-China stance.
actually saw some larouche ppl outside the other week lol
i haven’t seen a larouche street theater thing in a while. sad!!
That last word/insult dips at LPAC, moreso LoRG.

LPAC lobs a missile at Daniel Burke. “Apocalypsis Apocalypseos” trolls by dumping the space program element and answering further with bombast.

LPAC’s two items of contention with Burke, Burke notably reigning to remain above the squabbling lpacers.:
I. If the green new deal was designed to block the BRI, why is it being pushed on the United States (which isn’t participating in the BRI)? Sounds like you’re spinning things to conform to a certain narrative.

2. We’re trying to get clarification about @Burke4Senate’s views (then you jumped in). He recently asserted @larouchepac is “heartless people who spit on LaRouche,” so we’re interested in understanding the axiomatic background to @Burke4Senate’s beliefs.

LPAC: It’s our view that the BRI can become an important part of Lyndon LaRouche’s vision for a New Bretton Woods, his World Land-Bridge, and a Moon-Mars space colonization program (as Mr LaRouche presented in 2009).
Ap Ap: Bring it on!
LPAC: Yes, but situated from the perspective of a space colonization program, as Mr. LaRouche outlined in 2009,
Ap Ap: Let’s get Afghanistan into CPEC on Earth first!
LPAC: Why back away from Mr. LaRouche’s vision for the Bering Strait, the World Land-Bridge, and a Moon-Mars program?
Ap Ap: Not backing away, just prioritizing human life and stability in Central Asia. Do you not agree that CPEC should be extended into Afghanistan?
LPAC: Is the Green New Deal is designed to block the Belt and Road Initiative?
Ap Ap: This conversation is over if you don’t reply to MY QUESTION.
LPAC: We started this exchange by asking @Burke4Senate a simple question, which he hasn’t been able to answer. Who are you?
Ap Ap: Doesn’t matter who I am. Now fuck off if you can’t answer my question!
LPAC: “Your question” was a reply to our question (which wasn’t answered), so we don’t see the need for such rage.
Ap Ap: Unfollowed. Do you fucking hate humanity? Freak!
LPAC: Rage is not a good emotion. Does @Burke4Senate (or @TonySalami3 on his behalf) have any response to the initial simple question?
Ap Ap: Don’t fucking lecture me on fucking rage! You hate the Afghan people you fucking douchebag Satanist!

Ap AP continues on to assert his Larouchian bonafides by quoting some early Larouche 9/11 Truthism in conflating with conjectures on Biden’s whereabouts at the time.

The other part of this tweet tree slides into this … “Discussion?” … leading off to Tony Salami’s curious “The answer should be obvious, Benjamin.” And “I dont know nuthin bout that, but calling trump people overweight out of shape smoking alcoholics is pretty Heartless imo” — A tad disingenuous in its cropping and decontextualizing — the Michael Steger clip in question, and so goes the new game of LPAC v LORG.

This is either LORG fighting falun gong or LPAC complementing such — (as the Australian outlets provides the Chinese government such material as this.)

So, LORGsters and LPACers… Where are we with this?: disappointing that the LaRouche movement is just seemingly all MAGA now. we need a new type of innocuous crank.

Who would have thought that there would be LaRouche revisionists after his death. Sure. Sure. They even have UN representatives, apparently — Richard A. Black, the Schiller Institute’s representative at the United Nations.

LORG is reaching out to Harmid Karzai and Abdullah Abdullah, Real Power brokers in a new Taliban Afghanistan world are they. And, you know, yes, this is a joke — President Biden is implementing Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr.’s New Paradigm to defeat the British Empire and usher in a new golden age of the American System. Space lasers next on the agenda. — but it does strangely follow the progression from what we do see out of EIR — the headline “Biden Gives Passionate Anti-War Speech on ‘Ending an Era’”.

Well, they are Not Alex Jones… We see shifts in political posturing all about, and maybe a schism growth between lpac and lorg…

R Cam shares this thought: I feel bad for Alex Jones, he’s one of the most psyopped people in the entire world, personally, manipulated by tons of intelligence agencies for his audience– but somehow– the Spirit of Truth, not the literal truth content of speech, comes through it all. (…) Larouche is similar– also one of the most manipulated people by intelligence agencies– but Larouche got more over on them than Alex Jones ever has– Tragedy/Farce is the Larouche/Jones relation.

Infowars offers up the question What Should The Rhetorical Merger of Trump & Biden Be Called? suggesting an offramp from supporting Trump, even as Jones sticks to the right wing of electoral politics. Laroucheland gets weirder still — and the chasm in the schism gets larger. Harley Schlanger, representing LORG, editorialized against Tony Blair and the British Parliament’s withering criticism on Biden for his withdrawal from Afghanistan as representing an attack on “the Presidential System” — placing them above domestic neoconservatives due to their Britishness–, moving LORG into a posture of support for the Biden Administration. (Similar to the interim before Obama took office, supporting a “Presidential system” and suggesting “advisors in talk”). Interestingly, this defense moves on to former Governor Cuomo and California Governor Gavin Newsom. Compare that to LPAC, who continues to back the recallTech / Malthusian Complex or thereabouts would be defeated, asking “Will the California Recall Election be the Turning Point for our Republic?”

I take it this guy goes with LPAC — Lyndon LaRouche – A champion against the hidden actions of our own Government. FBI applies its insurgency in Lyndon LaRouche, now they are relocated to Germany and become the propagandists for the Empire. Do you see how it happens?

IV. Can the Diane Sare Senate Campaign Recover?

Diane Sare says a batch of incoherent comments to Chuck Schumer, who waves her aside to continue his platitudous speech. She then wanders around tge room, speaking loudly so someone — anyone — will hear her claim that she shoukd be the one talking, darneditall. Very much the debacle. An attempted recovery comes with her on her Facebook page,

There isn’t even anything there that can be used for trolls like this tweet on the Alexandria Ocasio Cortez encounter. Oh well. Maybe Diane Dare will up her game the next time she can get into A room with Schumer.

Meanwhile, over in Texas, and now over with LPAC, lying in wait is the attempt to place Allen West with Kesha Rogers. (A tad forced.). Actually, weirdly enough — Rogers is still A Safe Facebook friend — but in the good old days when they were slate-mates.

Meanwhile in Germany, the Buso Party in Germany continues to make waves:

of all the things abt american politics tht could be replicated abroad, larouchies has got to be the most galaxy-brained shit imaginable
lest the campaign poster seem to suggest these are reasonable folks, I’ll note tht the party head is a holocaust denier, and the party thinks climate change is an energy industry hoax meant to increase fuel prices. oh, the party leader is also still mad abt the treaty of versailles
was hoping it was going to have a really bizarre reasoning for happening there rather than “his widow moved there”
oh, no, she was german originally, so she just moved back… which I think actually does make it weirder than if she just moved here
came over here to marinate in the crazy for a few decades first
like the aging of whiskey in a wine barrel, marinating the german crazy in some american crazy
Im really hung up on the fact that she’s still very angry abt the treaty of versailles, thts true galaxy brain stuff
that just seems like a nazi thing to me?
its just not something tht is tht often brought up as a grievance anymore, the holocaust & partition provide so much grist its almost quaint to get upset abt versailles!

(Well, Buso has more visibility than the nazis.)

V. Memories

One time I was being solicited aggressively by a LaRouche (I think) political canvasser and I stuck out my arm like a running back warding off a tackle and yelled “Personal space! PERSONAL SPACE!!!” at him. It’s all you can do.

Seeing BUSO sign: Ouch, do these LaRouche disciples still exist? I can remember that 25 years ago when I was a schoolboy I argued in the ground … My first room in a shared flat in #Wiesbaden: In our house on the second floor right: The LaRouche disciples, first floor left: the KBW sect Under the roof an artist couple with 2 cats and opposite a GI couple, the drove to the US Army in riot gear every morning. And we are right in the middle.

I once got cornered by a candidate for this German party during the 2005 election and yes, they really do think this way. And talk about it at considerable length. What you need to know is they were founded by Helga LaRouche. Yes, that one. (Indeed).

The case against club entryism. I’m old enough to remember when we had followers of LaRouche in the 80s elected to the Alameda County DCC from the Tri-Valley. So yes I guess I’m revealing a “club” bias and at the same time I agree whether “dues-paying” is necessary or not, it is not sufficient…

biggest regret I have from this trip was not getting a picture of a billboard for larouche in south dakota

I’ll never forget the LaRouche guy I talked to in Munich in 2003. I asked him why he was tabling for LaRouche in Munich, Germany in 2003 & he asked me what the hell am I doing to change the world, which, fair enough, but I still can’t fathom what he was trying to accomplish. He was hoping to convince the Munich Symphony Orchestra to adopt scientific pitch . (LPAC does not answer: Does your organization have an official stance on Schoenberg’s twelve-tone serialism? Was it a positive or a negative influence on Western music?)

I was borderline stalked by some larouche cult group, they creeped me out, total sketch balls.

For the first election I could vote in, I wanted to research the candidates, and the only choices were a Republican and a LaRouche Democrat. I guess the local democrats were sick of “London banking interests”

My first chance to vote for president was Reagan or Mondale, so I voted for LaRouche because anarchy seemed reasonable at the time. Now, I’m a Blue Shirt Democrat, for the good of us all.

It spells real trouble to have a point of view like that. I had a guy walk up to me at the polls years ago talking all about socialism and human rights blah blah and ended up asking me for my support of Lyndon Larouche. I said don’t you ever try that on me again.

When I started at a Law office in the early 00’s somebody there still got Lyndon LaRouche’s newsletter delivered. Regardless of tech, eccentric and mostly wrong America is the best, and the only one I wanna live in.

Just searched my email for “coburg” and noticed I’ve been getting weekly emails from the Australian Citzens Party (formerly CEC) for more than 15 years now

I’m digressing here, but the Space Laser thing reminds me of back in the ’80s. In Houston’s Hobby Airport, I was accosted by Lyndon LaRouche supporters wanting me to sign a petition to use Reagan’s “Star Wars” program to zap Jane Fonda with gamma rays from space.

Not a historian, but in 1978 my college roommate’s brother, a follower of Lyndon LaRouche, sent us a pamphlet that said after Ben Franklin, dark forces had taken over and corrupted American Leaders iirc the dark forces were Rosicrucians or masons or something like that

Before she passed, my Grandmother “gave” thousands of dollars to the Lyndon LaRouche cult. Same thing. She was just starting to be stricken with Alzheimer’s.

The first “Free thinker” I met in college, decades ago, called himself that because he was a Holocaust denier and Lyndon LaRouche supporter. Subsequent encounters with those who describe themselves that way have done nothing to assuage my initial revulsion.

When I first came to the US in 1992 a group of Lyndon Larouche supporters harangued me on issues of global politics. Interesting characters.

Every time I see this I have flashbacks to the LaRouchies running around Chicago in their rusted out GMC truck, shouting catchphrases through the speaker they stuck on the roof. Same vibe.

Stuck in traffic on the turnpike while my dad tells me all about how LaRouche was a fave figure amongst the late 80s Romanian recent arrivals (for all the worst reasons.)

Learning the source of stray “Newton was afraid put up by British”comments. they tried to recruit me at the DFL convention in Rochester Mn in the late 00’s. i was like, your whole thing is built around one guy. they assured me “LaRouche Youth Cadres” would resolve this. i found it a strange analogue only could compare to scientology?

The LaRouchies still leave a faint bitter taste in my mouth because one of the most all-around unpleasant political conversations I’ve ever had was with one of their evangelists at a table in front of Reading Terminal Market in 2007. She was a sneering asshole bc I disagreed.

VI. Historical Notes

No one has put the Morton Downey Jr appearance up on youtube.

How about the Lyndon LaRouche organization? One of its officers, Harley Schlanger, may have conspired with Roger Stone, Julian Assange and the GRU in early 2016 regarding the hacking of the DNC’s and Podesta’s emails and/or the distribution of them through Wikileaks.

A lawsuit that involved Larouche figures in a lawsuit involving Alex Jones
According to Bidgood’s memorandum of support, courts in Virginia recognize a qualified journalist’s privilege rooted in the First Amendment. Citing in part the LaRouche v. NBC case, Bidgood’s counsel wrote that, unless overcome, that privilege protects reporters from being compelled to disclose information obtained in the course of their newsgathering.

L. Fletcher Prouty (JFK leaker who later on kinda went off the deep end into holocaust denial among other fringe shit) Near the end of his life he did stuff for the LaRouche crowd claiming oil is like, the supernatural blood of the earth

cool poster, though” if nothing else good about the 1986 Norway scene.

Question 29: Lyndon larouche laid the blueprint for how a lot of ppl are fucking insane today. AND. The funny thing about LaRouche is that he used to be a Trotskyist management consultant, kind of like how David Icke was a pretty normal sports guy who got active for the Green Party. But Icke had a mental breakdown whereas LaRouche set up a sect because of his enormous ego. AND. 29. I actually have sort-of-family that are huge LaRouchies. It’s interesting because they haven’t hopped onto any QAnon stuff. I think their iteration of it (the classic 80s stuff) was too integrated with New Deal imaginaries to be transferrable

An anti-vaxxer citing Larouche’s PANIC initiative on where the policies lead — perhaps picking up from Max Blumenthal.

Lol remember when Lyndon LaRouche died and his ppl announced it but nobody believed it because nobody ever believed them even when they were spot on? Good times!

My motto for the record I’m currently working on is “less thinking, more doing,” and so of course I’m trying to write a song narrated by a member of the Larouche Movement in Berkeley CA during the Marble Cone fire of 1977

And what is he claiming this means? TIL Lyndon LaRouche got over 40,000 votes (13.5%) in the 1996 WV Democratic primary against a popular incumbent who won the state in the general election twice. For comparison in 2020 Bernie Sanders got 22,670 votes while coming in 2nd in the WV Democratic primary (The 1996 delegate fight rememebered.)

Giving Larouche too much credit for incubating Climate change denial / rejection. Too much money at stake that energy concerns will always be able to find and fund someone to find the evidence to support their concern. That one or two bounce in to get published by 21st Century SciTec is immaterial.

I could assemble my thoughts on Bill Clinton and Lewinsky and that sordid affair, but I do not know how much it is ultimately worth. Here it is enough to stare at what the thrashing of Larouche conspiracy theories does to any argument, and point out the inconsistencies arrived at as the movement turns away from the Clintons after 2008 and moves to Trump.

VII. Reliving the 9/11 Truth Glory Days.

Revving up to commemorate 9/11, LORG is giving us a renewal of their glory days of 9/11 Truth. Never ceasing to remind everyone that he was there on the John Stockwell Show, blaming the Jews before anyone else (as The Brits are responsible for all the wars), and trying to get his dibs in. He had his effects.

Now Daniel Burke leads the charge to dump litter all over Manhattan.

And what’s this? A 9/11 Truther comes on and disses Burke and the “Establishment”arians making up the Larouche Org over these past two decades?

Aunt BB: Every anniversary, 9/11 disinfo, especially LIHOP, is paraded in public to distract from the inside job to smear Muslims & Islam. This former candidate for “selected” office is nothing but an establishment tool & business asset. See here.
Daniel Burke: If you disagree with the 9/11 families, just say so. They were “selected” in a different way.
Aunt BB: You & other establishment ghouls emotionally manipulate & exploit 9/11 families out of self-interest. Care to tell the truth about PNAC, or is all your info from MSM propaganda rags?
You’re just an establishment tool who perpetuates the War OF Terror myth that Muslims carried out the 9/11 attacks. Israel loves you for it. Part of the West & Israel’s strategy of tension to distract from their own war crimes.
You have an establishment blue-check Twitter account. That means your business disinfo is corporate-approved.
ApAp: (link to Burke tweet)
Aunt BB: Trump’s constructive policies”? Building up NATO against Russia, CIA NGO color revolution in Hong Kong & doing everything in Israel’s interests in Mideast? PNAC was at the core of 9/11, the West’s War OF Terror against Russia & China. He blames KSA & is full of shit.
Ap Ap: He doesn’t blame KSA. Who created KSA? British oligarchs created: ‘too big to fail’ banks oil projects of Saudi Arabia and Israel + justified bombing of Iraq. Cold War fake Russiagate Steele dossier CFR takeover of American Foreign Policy
Ap Ap: British tentacles are all over KSA. KSA is occupied and fighting for sovereignty.
Aunt BB: Business interests, dumbass, not “British.” Greed has no identity.
Jason Ross: Here’s what they had to say about Biden’s executive order on declassification, announced today: declassification story.
Aunt BB: Declassification” of FBI BS to distract from the truth. You’re full of shit.
All the LaRouche assets are coming out to promote establishment 9/11 LIHOP disinfo that Saudis are responsible for the false-flag terrorist attacks.

VIII. Who is getting called Larouche as an insult?

AOC. Tucker Carlson. WSWS. Bernie fans. Trump’s campaign solicitation techniques. Caleb Maupin, position shifting through time. Mike Lindell. Rand Paul. The People’s Party. Andrew Yang. Kevin Paffrath (bug up his butt on this one.). Nick Land. Aimee Terese. Spike Lee. Anti- Trump Republicans.

Then there are those expressions of sarcasm against various incredulous sources of information, parsing disinformation content. Witness: Sure, but alternatively Lyndon LaRouche came back from the dead and told me Russia didn’t do it. Whosoever ought I believe?

Caleb Maupin defends himself from the blasting of accusation — involved in an Operation Mop-up of his own? (Nay, tangled relations.)

On side note, apparently Larouche’s followers used to show up to meetings of the CPUSA and other similar groups and best the sh-t out of them with nun-chucks….so based, I guess?

In the end, the problem with peering at Caleb Maupin’s current battles with “the left” as represented by orbits to the Communist Party lies in and “what a metaphor!”, Every day we voluntarily stand in front of that dude with the Lyndon Larouche table near Locust Walk and think he represents the zeitgeist.

IX. Overviewing

At last — an explanation as good as any: Lyndon LaRouche was investigating a secret tunnel being built by the Chinese that would connect Carmel to Beijing, but the CCP hit him with the microwave gun before he could share his findings with the world. Originally the CCP tried to give him headaches and a sense of gnawing ennui with the microwave gun, but unfortunately they set it to the Verdi Pitch which overloaded LaRouche’s system and led to his death.

Another explanation, translated: Yes, the “rock-sex-and-drug counterculture” has been a thorn in the side of the LaRouchies for years, they see it as a trick of the Aristotelian world conspiracy (including London high finance) to destroy people’s souls. According to the LaRouchies, a gender of capable, decent, short-haired model pupil is supposed to conquer the solar system with nuclear spaceship engines and read Friedrich Schiller and listen to Beethoven. Newton, Darwin and Bertrand Russell in particular are a thorn in their side. “Good”, on the other hand, are generally Germans and Italians who produced works that Lyndon liked in terms of content and style, especially those from the orbit of the Florentine Renaissance … and the Weimar Classic. Nikolaus von Kues, Moses Mendelssohn, FrIEdrIch ScHILLeR, Kepler, Leibniz, Beethoven, as well as the various German alpha males with rocket propulsion (von Oberth, von Braun, Krafft Ehricke) are a kind of waifus of the LaRouchies. Meitner too, although they * have to * like them, since their body-and-stomach technique would not exist without the discovery of nuclear fission. Noether does not appear at all, I suspect, simply because their work overwhelmed Lyndon in terms of content and mathematics. They are comparatively cautious with anti-Semitism, it always goes against “high finance” without ethnic implications. Fritz Haber cannot excommunicate them because the Haber-Bosch process appears in their technical visions. Moses Mendelssohn is also one of the good guys. It depends on how you define “done”. If you mean: Has built a mini-empire around itself from fanatical supporters, with its own publishing houses, congresses and a kind of private secret service, then: yes, it has achieved something. Unfortunately, the LaRouchies never commented on anime. You are never lazy about bashing modern pop culture products – especially video games and electronic music; Even inline skaters were certified by Helga Z. LR that they would “whiz through the landscape mindlessly” … And Plato was many things, but not a champion of democracy, as the LaRouchies seem to think.

Wikipedia now has Lyndon Larouche categorized as “American convicted criminal”. Under Political Party it marks his first one — ” Socialist Workers Party”. The first sentence too gets a tad of an eyebrow rise.

May be a better analysis here: Trotskyist Marxist who swallowed the J-pill and took a hard turn toward Logos. Always remained Machiavellian however. ‘White Sphere’ luciferian. Life goal was to reverse engineer marxian producerist econ out of American and German intellectual toolkit 1/

Society if we listened to Lyndon LaRouche 40 years ago.

Conspicuously unanswered: LaRouche PAC has not responded to my question about Schoenberg. I’m beginning to think they don’t really know that much about music.

My motto for the record I’m currently working on is “less thinking, more doing,” and so of course I’m trying to write a song narrated by a member of the Larouche Movement in Berkeley CA during the Marble Cone fire of 1977

X. Another Podcast Overview, Part Two you have to pay for so I do not know — maybe it’s revolutionary and kicks Part One’s butt — but Part one is available free

True Anon Podcast gives us their breakdown of the cult. They blatter on for a tad too long at the beginning, but it is worth a listen.

TrueAnon pod LaRouche hated Paul Sweezy so fuckin much; he also periodically accuses medium-named Trotskyists in the U.K. of being MI6 agents out to ice him. Mostly for time we had to go the route of talking about his mafia etc stuff but he was a god when talking about socialists

I hope there is a Lyndon LaRouche biopic starring John Lithgow, directed by Terry Zwigoff and written by Werner Herzog

I found the paper for the Australian Larouchites being given away at a Tasmanian fish and chips shop. The writing style was very reminiscent of the Healyites that I spent a few months with in the mid 80s.

NB selling his book.

Staring at the pyramid on DSOTM — to know geometry

Saturday, July 31st, 2021

I. Elections

I think I can defend this Virginia politico, or be charitable about him.  This is the “asking for support of” “speak to everybody in the public” long list of anyone and everyone.  If Larouchies were not trailing everyone else on the list, then there may be a problem.

Still, amusing to see the thisAsked about Youngkin’s reaction to Sears’ mention of LaRouche, Wolking said, “We don’t speak for her.”

At any rate, the politico is no Allen West — who I guess Texas Democrats are loading up on him next standing with Kesha Rogers for a possible Republican primary upset.  (And speaking of whom — What is up with that Rogers backdrop?

Senate candidate Diane Sare finds the one police chief who correlates violent crime rates with marijuana use — and What is the state of Mark Crispin Miller these days anyway?  Next we see her speaking with Atoms for Peace — because it is 1950s all over again!  And, interesting ally in Republican gubernatorial contender (will he crack 2 percent in the primary?) Derrick Gibson — thus far only gets the warning sire of his praise for Proud Boys.  

II.  Does Helga’s China Posture have any American Constituency?

This particular praise of China’s aesthetics misses a mark — amusing as it is to shove favored American Presidents in on it all .  No, Nothing wrong with their state media at all.

As Helga shills for China, dumping any research and speculation on Covid’s origins with China on American anti-intellectualism, (irony of ironies in dropping to Richard Hofstadter, who gets cited occasionally on “the paranoid style of American Politics” to explain Larouche’s appeal), it does strike me to attempt to delineate different “apologists” or sympathizers of one type or other for different authoritarian regimes.  Leftists have long had some qualifiers for any criticism of Cuba’s Castro or Venezuela’s Chavez.  Through the past decade and a half I have noted the rightist apologia on Russia’s Putin — round about some editorials by your Pat Buchanans — maybe inching into the foreign policy posture of President Trump — favoring the increased role of the Russian Orthodox Church as a bulwark against perceived decadence — and, you know, Pussy Riot are boorish buffoons whose performative trangressive snubbing of traditionalist moors get oh so tiresome.  There was also a darkly amusing insight from Putin at the time of those increased protests against him — that “we need to create a new small political party for educated urban elites” in his managed electoral “democracy” system — has its unsettling implications in pondering our political history.   On China, there had been a smattering of favorable coverage coming out of the likes of neo liberals such as Thomas Friedman (in editorials mocked by the libertarians at Reason) in suggesting the applicability of some technocratic approaches to American government.  All good and well, but where Team Larouche had some maneuvering room for finding a constituency welcoming Russia’s government model, there is not much you can find there for their salute to Xi — and where it has been is a pretty elitist affair.

The Larouchies take off against Malthus and side with — well, this is just Trashing them. … Or we can move on ,  into satire.

III.  Question 29 — forcing opinions.  One of those all encompassing polls of things — question 29 is — Larouche.  And here we gauge the pulse of a select Twitter following.

Not weird enough for me and too weird for mainstream politics. A bad place to be.

socialist dude ran for president cool or whatevs i’m gonna fall asleep i wish this list had more interesting topics like pop culture i’m gonna become an anti intellectual yawnnnn

anyone who hates the brits that much can’t be that bad

he was the original nick land.

barely know anything about LaRouche but he seems like he sucks big time

Cool guy, I like his defense of Platonism & opposition to British crypto-imperial power, but a spy and not to be fully trusted

I’ve never really done a deep dive on LaRouche. He seems to have the charms and pitfalls of an autodidact

I would have fought side by side or back to back with Mr. LaRouche in his holy crusade against the Aristotelian horde. Rest in power, sir.

I have no stance on either of those. Larouche was an fbi informant and racist whose head of security was a Grand dragon of the klan.

larouche is maybe one of the funnier people in american politics because he has all the political viewpoints. every single one. at the same time

Fascism that serves these days one good purpose: you can tell a fake leftist is quickly googling anything they can in the middle of an argument when they whip out an article from a LaRouche site as a citation.

LaRouche is a local so mostly I just remember as a kid people with LaRouche bumper stickers on their rusted out Subarus handing out pamphlets. More Marxist stuff. Already been over that.

Lyndan LaRouche is a sleuth detective in an agatha christie rip off novel. he is kinda gruff and a lone wolf but dw he has a heart of gold

larouche was a psyop to discredit all of the perfectly sensible conspiracy theories that place Q—— E———— at the center of it all.

CIA spook, but nobody does conspiracies better than the LaRouchies. When they ran cover for the coronascam op, I was a little surprised, but this is a sign that the western left is being rolled up into the regime, and of course LaRouche was always an op.

I don’t know who this guy is but the contents section of his Wikipedia page is great

Respect for running the first Patreon grift

Probably an intelligence asset

greatest crank of all time


holy shit that dude is fucked up.

IV.  Daniel Burke Tweets 

Daniel Burke promotes a Schiller Institute celebration of Edgar Allen Poe. Last minute chance to join the Schiller Institute NYC Chorus event in honor of Edgar Allan Poe: “CELEBRATE THE LIFE OF EDGAR POE: AMERICA’S SOCRATES”. Never heard of Poe as so described, I have to go ahead and google the term. It appears Big Tech is suppressing it, favoring long time Larouche nemesis Noam Chomsky as “America’s Socrates”, as too Stephen Colbert.  We do get the Schiller Event listing on page two, but no literary scholar appears to have taken to the term.

Surprising revelation — a Nemesis of video game protaganists everywhere.

Daniel Burke sees someone he’s tweeted amicably with engage in fun and frivolous pursuits — decides to SIC ‘ EM!!!  Games are liberal. Host musikabends, like Schiller’s circle did, instead. Creative mentation, not simulation. RCam walks on unscathed.

Asking the bold question — can we kill Satan?  The answer … No.  But the Larouchies try anyway —   As the true nature of the universe is creative, Prometheus has every power to succeed, and banish Zeus forever. That victory depends upon a subjective commitment by sovereign human individuals to fulfill the potential of mankind. Allow Zeus’s continued lies, and we perish.  And with campaign rhetoric like that, you can see how they manage the percentages.  Then again, we do get surprising possibilities at the entanglement of larouche, Satanism, and industrial rock.  (‘Seth’ certainly a typo for ‘Set’.)

V.  RCam and Daniel Burke debate drug policy.

RCam:  Dude Weed Bros are the working class of america

Dude Weed Bro “It’s all bullshit man the whole thing’s rigged. Capitalism is evil. We just need to Love Each Other, Man.” This guy is my guy– this guy shall win in the end inshallah

Daniel Burke:  But he can’t do geometry, so how can he be a member of a republic?

Hey — the best student in my high school geometry class was a pothead!

RCam:  These are the only people who perk up when you say “Sacred Geometry” bro

Daniel Burke:  That’s just a meme, though. Can they double the square?  (speaking of stoner geometry) 

Something kinda sad in this statement — Yes, it’s one of the most fun things to do, especially in the street.

I don’t mean these guys aren’t recruitable. I mean we need them to understand that drugs are a weapon of the empire, and if they do so, and stop smoking, their minds will become more free.

You can’t knock the “recruitment” angle, as from my understanding the Larouche youth recruits over the year do not really even come out of political causes — primarily — as from a cultural disillusionmemt in the dorm rooms. Though, this tends more toward the clean with some disdain over student potheads than recovering stoners, the latter may still figure.

RCam:  Mushrooms & Marijuana & Alcohol & Nicotine are not Heroin & Ketamine & LSD & Cocaine etc.

Jack Webb: Marijuana is the flame, heroin is the fuse, lsd is the bomb..

Daniel Burke: Would you agree with me that the intended federal legalization of weed by Chuck Schumer is designed to increase overall drug consumption, stupefying the population and endangering their health?


Huh.  You now, Kanye West may just be receptive.  I expect he will get tweet bombed any week now.

Larouche was right about England and math

VI.  More Intimate Venues

Noting the presence of Ray McGovern at a Larouche conference, and I wonder… When was the last time this guy was on Democracy Now?

March 12, 2014.

A long time gone.  I can’t help think there is a connection between him not being on Democracy Now and him attending Schuller Institute confabs — even if I do not know its precise meaning.  Representative of some combination of Democracy Now “selling out” to a leftwing support gatekeeper role of the two party system, or of McGovern chasing downward into the further fringes.  Depending on your attitude.  (See here).

I sense the kind of floating sales attempt moving to Scott Ritter who, whatever you think of him, provides a thoughtful praise on the complicated legacy of Thomas Jefferson. Others chime in with reasonable points, and Ritter responds accordingly. Then Mike Dzagi uselessly plops in Larouchian crap on the matter, which everyone ignores. Ritter orbits nearby, and the tractor beams are lodged for future occasions.

On to this gray area of things — this “influencer” — is he kidding — or kidding on the square?

Agree?  9/11 “truth” was an effective vehicle for the far right to win over gullible leftists. Historical revisionism.

VII.  How Australia’s Larouche Movement Claimed Credit for…

Enter Australian Post:  The turgid and convoluted outpourings of the LaRouchite movement and its Australian cult followers are difficult to comprehend and, indeed, generally not worth the effort. They are  based on bizarre conspiracy theories that include febrile obsessions with, amongst others, the British Royal family (including claims Queen Elizabeth II is a drug trafficker and her late husband Prince Philip used the World Wildlife Fund to commit terrorism and genocide) and bankers. […] 

Witnessing the admiration and sympathy Holgate garnered among post office licensees, as well as others in the community who felt she had been badly treated, the ACP recast her as a proponent of its public bank policy. It claimed credit for what it called the “revelation…that Christine Holgate had considered turning Australia Post into a public bank, which Scott Morrison’s superiors in the private banks would have fought ‘tooth and nail’.”

According to the ACP, the story that “Four Corners” missed was “that Christine Holgate was a threat to the banks, by virtue of her interest in turning Australia Post into a public bank, which would break the monopoly of the Big Four.”

There is no evidence for any of this. On the contrary, Holgate’s successful banking deal, recently extended by a decade, “gives the [private] banks a broader reach into regional communities,” according to the Australian Financial Review’s James Eyers. […]

Thus, the LaRouchites have yet again made a performance of inventing for themselves an important role on the national stage. But, since the late 1980s, when it (as the CEC) came under the influence of the LaRouche movement, it has never had a candidate elected to any parliament in Australia, although it has made hundreds of attempts.

Yet despite the lack of parliamentary representation it has dramatically outperformed all Australia’s small but electorally more successful parties such as the Katter’s Australian Party and the Jacqui Lambie Network in one respect –  fundraising. If its coffers are anything to go by, its charade must be working.

VIII. Memories

A story of a near-miss. Years back (in 2008), when I 1st discovered YouTube, I was super into anti‐gov conspiracy theories (Alex Jones/InfoWars, Loose Change & 9/11Truth Movement, Zeitgeist, etc). I spent 100s of hours obsessively consuming those kinda vids — tho, 2 be clear, I was never… a true believer. For me it was more of a fascination, & just found it all kinda intriguing. And some of it seemed like it *could* have SOME legitimacy, or have morsels of truth wrapped up in it — while other stuff was undeniably bonkers (it [‘blew my mind’ emoticon] that some ppl are so detached… frm logic/reason/reality that they actually BELIEVE it). But mostly it seemed like conspiracy theories in the anti-gov genre were either grifts or mis/disinfo based on elements of truth which bad (or self‐serving) actors had spun in2 sensational stories & nefarious plots — … exploiting ppls cynism, fears, & the public’s knowledge of wrongdoing our gov really has engaged in, in order 2 sow discord or in service of an alterior agenda. [Winking emoticon]. But I digress. So, during that time I stumbled on this vid made/published by LaRouchePAC… [1932] And, while it has a kinda cheesylow‐budget production value, [faceslap emoticon] I’d be lying if I said it didnt resonate w/ me. And I may well have become a true believer in the conspiracy theory it lays out too — if I hadnt had the presence of mind 2 look up LaRouche 2 see what he was about… Then, after learning about him, & how he promoted low-key fascistic & antisemitic views, I rewatched that vid again (4 like the 17th time [faceslap emoticon]) & was able 2 connect the dots, read between the lines, & see the veiled fascism & anti‐semitism in the narrative its espousing. So yeah… can totally see how some ppl could buy in 2 LaRouche’s movement, become brainwashed, & adopt views/beliefs that are fascist & antisemitic, w/o even really realizing it. (If that makes sense.) The fascist propaganda thats masked in a Leftist facade is particularly insidious.

(notable accusation) One of my high school friends became a LaRouchie. He let slip that he did coke with one of its leaders. So much for their “drugs are a British conspiracy” theory.

Know math, stopping suddenly, turning to the Larouchies, “so you say… you hate England and math? tell me more.”

Yes, I’ve heard of the LaRouchies…we covered them in a course taught by @alexandraistein. Would love to speak with an ex-LaRouchie if anyone is interested… also, are there kids who grew up within it? Can you have a second generation LaRouchie?

That’s one idea. So, in college LaRouche cultist tried to recruit me with a pamphlet “Children of Satan: The Beast Man II” (Dick Cheney is the beast man). I’ve always gotten a kick out of it, but, since learning more about Jewish Satan the opposer angel, I now refer to my cat lovingly as CoSTBM2.

Never making this mistake again: The LaRouche people had a petition about that. I signed it, then they called after the election saying that they had gotten something done with it and it would probably happen soon

As a non-hockey guy, I view your obsession with Sun Belt hockey like I used to view the Lyndon LaRouche supporter who would stand outside the Ukrop’s store where I worked in HS. Except I must admit that your obsession pays off in success.

Hey — Byron’s “It’s the anti-insurrectionists who are the real insurrectionists” brings me back to those Saturday mornings of yore when a Lyndon Larouche supporter would set up a little table to scream nonsense.

Questions: say ur at the I around he school dance, vibing to the music (tuned to 432hz) and someone calls you a Aristitolean pawn of the satanic british imperialists in front of ur crush. Wyd?

An English friend from university days (early 80s) outwitted Larouche fundraisers who approached him in a US airport by explaining, “Oh – I don’t have any money. I’m British.” They immediately understood and nodded sympathetically. Amazing any vestige of LL’s influence remains.

. . . People who give away free stuff can set limits that are legally enforceable. My college newspaper was free, but when the campus LaRouchies started snatching every copy because we published an article painting them in a bad light, that was still considered theft. (that assumes the Parody view were a “campus club”, which I doubt.)

Recall — I remember one time when they came by my boss’ office and their leave-behind paper was an cartoon of Felix Rohatyn raping a donkey, which represented the Democratic Party.

(Review of “Sexual Impotence of Puerto Rican Socialist Party”) — lol jfc this is def about a girl.. my good homies father was actually the US editor of Claridad around this time i wonder if he bagged larouche’s chick lol […] What was with that guy? I went to one of their meetings or some shit when I didn’t know anything and it felt kinda cultist? Man it was probably like over 10 years ago and I went to the meeting and was asking like what the fuck do you guys even believe and never got a straight answer. (Speaking of neo- Malthusian ism!)

IX. Historical Purview

A call for kooky political manifestos. Australia’s movement gets a vote.

the persons one meets in a far ranging left to right poliltical journey) I’m not sure how I learned of Loren Golder, but it might have been on Aftermath. Goldner had a spotty past; this much I’d heard. He’d been involved with the former Marxist but later conspiracist Lyndon LaRouche. Goldner’s discipleship under LaRouche had ended with the latter ironically accusing him of being a CIA agent.

The Queen wears a crown! Corona means crown! OMG!!! It’s been right in front of us the whole time. Opium wars -> Wuhan -> …, etc., etc. Quick, someone dig up Lyndon Larouche!

Elected by whom and to what? MAIL FRAUD is punishable by Prison. Linden LaRouche went to prison on a technicality for Mail Fraud even tho his mail was shut off by the Feds AND HE WAS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL in his 80s serving his elected term from behind bars.

Translated: Do you remember when they fucked larouche in the talego and his wife helga convinced Pavarotti and domingo that the solution to achieve world peace was to lower the pitch of tuning the orchestras a micona and presented the proposal to the Italian parliament? Good times. Tb convinced Reagan to go ahead with the Star Wars that they would already get the lasers but the tuning of the orchestras seems more top. The wording can be confusing, Pavarotti and Domingo were not involved in the known laser weapons.

Translated — For a rational and peaceful society, let’s cancel quantum physics. Response in English: OK Lyndon LaRouche

I may as well note he has a larouche article on his substack page it breaks no ground so to summarize:, Lyndon LaRouche: The Windsor Mafia has infiltrated every level of government and controls almost every aspect of society through their various Aristotelian-Synarchist organs. Also Lyndon LaRouche: Here’re the intelligence reports on every leftist org we could identify Mr. FBI It’s incredible how a guy so redpilled on international drug trafficking and deep politics is also such a dedicated snitch but that’s LaRouche for you, always a bag chaser first and foremost

Hm… No. Lyndon Larouche candidates pulled this in IL during the 1980s. A LaRouche candidate ran as a Democrat for Lt Governor and didn’t reveal their true affiliations until after they won the primary, forcing the Democratic nominee for governor to distance himself from them. They lost. Like it or not, Team Larouche ran as members of the Democratic Party and ran as Larouchiesin 1986 Illinois. It was up front, no subterfuge. See too the obvious problem with this one — MAIL FRAUD is punishable by Prison. Linden LaRouche went to prison on a technicality for Mail Fraud even tho his mail was shut off by the Feds AND HE WAS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL in his 80s serving his elected term from behind bars. Not an elected official. Must have something lost in translation.

Bertrand Russell’s popular culture — If I were George Lucas I’d give every imperial character a British accent and have the rebels constantly extol the virtues of Lyndon LaRouche

Maybe the cec’s manifesto for list of kook manifestos?. And… How do you vote in a 3rd 4th place 1984 Presidential contest?. Tough choice, eh?

X. Touring

a friend saw LaRouchies outside a supermarket shilling for TFG. i can’t even. LaRouche is dead but the grift/cult lives on.

The swastika = Larouche tour is back!

what fuckery is this

It was some people from the Lyndon Larouche foundation/movement/asylum.

Ugh it had been years since I last wasted any brain cells on LaRouche cultists and damn you for ending that blissful streak

I thought they’d moved pretty far under their rocks too, then there they are on Main Street on a Friday afternoon talking about green energy genocide.

Well these are horrible people.

IDK near major NYC subway stop, my have been larouche nuts, didn’t engage lest I punch someone

And LPAC representing in a Sarasota, Florida garage!!!

XI. Current Events

On this Oregonian piece — The big problem with the ‘Microsoft and Bill Gates are microchipping us’ line is that it is rather antiquated technology — here in the world where Anyone motivated enough to track where I am typing right now can do so, with a modicum of tech savvy. It is not hard to appreciate the anxieties that give rise to this conspiracy theory — but its frame of references belongs to 1980.

In this light, I do scratch my head with Bob Wesser — What’s the point of the disingenuous gratuitous attack on Lyndon LaRouche? The LaRouche Organization has been at the forefront warning about the dangers of COVID infection worldwide and advocating vaccination, masks, and the establishment of a global health infrastructure. Uh… Huh? (That is lpac, and I guess Wesser sides with lorg, but — any separation on this issue?)

Is this conjecture off of that “Putin has a Trump pee tape” memo? Looks like Roger Stone, the guy who, with Harley Schlanger of the Lyndon LaRouche organization, probably helped Putin “hack” our election, is gonna lose his condo.

more I wish they’d ask the Lyndon LaRouche organization’s Harley Schlanger why, after returning from Moscow, he urgently wanted to meet with Roger Stone, with whom he did meet in April of 2016, according to Watergate attorney Doug Caddy, who contacted former colleague Stone for him.

Mike Lindell’s place in American politics.

Forecasting from political trendlines. We’re about 10 years out from the chapocells and red scare girls going all in on some kind of LaRouche ish fascist. Americans have been trying to elect a populist leaning fascist since like Huey Long. That becomes way more explicitly about race in the civil rights years (Wallace and co) but then LaRouche brought us back to esoteric American fascism and I think we’re just about ready to try it. Trump was like, the attempt to do this, but it turned out he was less interested in fascist stuff and more interested in having a good time. The environment is there nonetheless

XII. The tactics and schismatic ideology of Black Hammer garners multiple Larouche allusionsone knows enough to I.d. the labor caucuses. Toss in a reference to time cube.

Wasn’t Twitter a plot from Bertrand Russell?

Sunday, June 27th, 2021

I. Daniel Burke is a Very Online Person

discussing Malthus. Praising Putin. and Chavez and Maduro… I think. And this is all good and well, but what does it have to do with yoga?* Arguing with white nationalists. Making anti-Einstein signs. Surely this one will go viral any day now. Big opponents of Entropy. Unique scientific belief that Man is not Animal.. Opposition to pi. Another insulting of The Beatles. Weighing in on Abortion. The totally anti Plato Spenglerian figure of Cory Booker (nevermind no one mentioned him.)

* Regretfully, I lost this Twitter link, but it was a ridiculous “try to catch them all” response to someone talking about yoga.

The perceived competition, false gatekeepers touching on at least some of Larouche arguments, gets dismissed with a “Solutions???” charge. Lest RCam fall out of line and fail to find the Rosicurcian premise of the pseudointellectual malarky.

And the people are responding to this massive deluge.

Or, at times, not, as all roads lead to China’s government. (Curious firebombing attempt here — would Burke like to sell his William Blake interpretation to this thread?)

And all roads lead to a variation of this: You seem too closed, and unhappy, perhaps, to have an honest dialogue. You studiously avoid my central argument. Have a good rest of your day. Passive aggressive to the max!

Anti-gaming comments give Burke that “Boomer” insult. Burke assault on video games gets a gamer suggesting a compromise, but Burke is not having it.

Everyone finds out where that “race doesn’t exist” line gets you. Funnily, this Daniel Burke selling Larouche to the argurer of people who put on right jackasses and not left jackasses. See where that gets him.

Har de har, it is to laugh. Here goes a popular response to Daniel Burke on a conspiratorial webcast:Is LaRouche still alive? Da fuq. . Yeah, well… At 30 minute mark we get discussion of how he plays at Trump rallies. Lee Greenwood blaring, the gaudy patriotic music blares somewhere out of 432 range. Somehow we have not written the trash reality tv ethos of Trumpism as a defining characteristic of a Trump rally.

Oh, and what is this? China loves Larouche.

Tis official. LORG disowns Trump. Oh, wait. Helga goes on to throw Trump some support… Still, somehow, despite Greenwood, despite “China Virus”, despite… So, do we see here a new splintering in the offing? With Daniel Burke turning on his own away from Trump, And reiterating the “fallen off a cliff” mantra.

Nay. After a bit of wobbling, LORG’s final statement on Trump comes out: Had Trump exonerated LaRouche of the false charges brought against him, by the same corrupt Department of Justice which was out to destroy Trump’s presidency, and had he openly collaborated with the LaRouche organization in the global effort to end the British Imperial “regime change” war policy and its “Green New Deal” destruction of industrial progress globally, and called for a New Bretton Woods conference with Russia, China and others to put the bankrupt western financial system through bankruptcy reorganization, with Hamiltonian credit policies available in all nations—had he had the courage to do that, he would still be President, and the world would likely be on a road to recovery and perhaps a new Renaissance. Wait — does this mean that, like Trump finally at last, LORG is admitting that Biden did in fact win?

Lol LaRouche.

The cultural war remains and now comes front and center… Disillusioned by Greenwald at a Trump rally, we turn now to the Video Game Plague. And the postulation goes — video game playing = acceptance of mass death.

Everything rolls into a rush. I mean, some twitterers are here too busy playing video games to be there where People are grabbing copies; we’ll have gotten out several hundreds within another couple of hours. Yeah, the New Federalist going out like hot cakes! — but not to these dudes. And it is Adventures in Crisis mongering — 12 Minutes til — Bring out the spectre of Bertrand Russell, or a strawman version thereof.

Nazis have nothing on Elizabeth. We are very close to Thermonuclear extinction. Sane people must combine to create a way out.

Basically what we see here as Daniel Burke fights the video game is a guy who loves Humanity and not so much People. Over the last four years there was a genre of books published — sitting aside and somewhat a subgenre within the usual genre of anti-Current Guy in Charge books that always proliferate during any President’s tenure — which can be considered “anti- anti Trump books”. It is one which speaks somewhat to me — looking warily at a President who until that last month in office I could always say “preferable to W Bush” and get a tongue lashing for this from people who consider themselves “The Resistance”. And where our gamer arguing with Burke commits a faux pas by referencing Edgar Allen Poe as ” classical” — no idea if he picked him by knowing that Poe is on Larouche’s list of “good” — the idea remains, expressed by David Shield in ” Nobody Hates Trump More Than Trump” in staring down various Artistic Resistancers — I quoted on my blog here.

In Vimi Bajaj’s essay on V.S. Naipaul in the “Writer’s Chronicle,” she argues that he was a great writer only early on, when he was compassionate, and is now no longer of interest, because he hates most of humanity; such a formulation would eliminate everything from Petronius’s “The Satyricon” (1st Century A.D.) to Michel Houellebecq’s “Submission” (2015).

Reminds me of reading, in the wake of Trump’s election, a Literature professor declaring that she was now going to emphasize empathy in her syllabus selections.

Back in the day I had a comic book fan and Larouchie commenting on this blog, who had (has?) a web page of prized comicbook artists’ commissioned work that he’s bought over time. Horror of horrors, he reiterated time and again against any contradiction of following the Larouche line on things against Larouche’s highfalutin fight against lower culture — his assembly of what must be emulated to be considered Art. But here we find Daniel Burke trashing The Batman Animated Show of the 1990s, as against some Twitter comments disliking more contemporary popular items and with a suggestion of introducing it to his children at an age appropriate time. Evidentially Burke holds that such a time exists not at all, lest we suck the kids into “porno popular culture”. I will not be able to explain how you raise your kids through the oft rough terrain of the culture at large, but the answer lies somewhere short of Burke’s Larouchian “show no visual medium but classic paintings before the age of 25” and describing every tasteless item as Aristotilian or “Bertrand Russell ‘s popular culture”.

Most useful thing i have found about LaRouche’s cult is their articles and material on based industrial projects and how asbestos is good actually because of their belief the secret bong oligarchy is holding back progress to make us all serfs in the form of hippies

Proceeding with the “Anti-Malthusian Front” — Yeah, this attempt at an equivalence argument on Chinese versus American tyranny chimes false with the reference to Larouche. On the comment: China’s government is not Malthusian. It is Vernadsky-an. And I admit I had to go to Wikipedia to catch up on where China’s government has shifted to from its one child policy — we are now up to two children! With maybe more loopholes and room for “nudge” economics– but it all rings pretty Malthusian to me, and not shuffled over to a long departed Mao.

Oh, what else can we say with Daniel Burke’s domination of Larouchie Twitter? Hm. Zhang Heqing doesn’t.

Spoke with NYC mayor candidate, split amicably.

this Blackrock thing is really drawing out the Larouchies and goldbugs in the NIMBY caucus, ain’t it. Great response here from Leapingbaath. Daniel Burke continues beating that drum.

But again with the this: Keep thinking this way, and you will find yourself licking the Queen’s backside in hell for eternity. Repent, and join humanity in the effort to lift every human being out of poverty, famine, and disease. Have a good day!

You know, Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar, celebrated by the Larouche movement for about a decade and maybe half. And, y’know — on this “My friend Bill Ferguson’s anti-Obama poem called “b-ball” — full of an anti-Obama stance that is in its own world — observation: Obama also played a lot of golf… Like his predecesdors and guy who followed. (I don’t know about the current guy — who is, uh, a little old). Why no golf reference — instead we focus on basketball?

II. Notes from the Civil Wars

Hm… Meanwhile, over at LPAC… It is Barbara Boyd charging Exxon with getting taken over by the greenies. Huh. Yeah, well, they are positioning themselves as Fox News is getting soft — not hyper-critical enough against Biden, though as against Putin it leaves everyone in a bind. And then there is Susan Kokinda keeping the Trumpet faith at the big Trump rally in Ohio. We llll!wait for Trump to hold forth against The British.

Inviting a scrimmage in the civil war against LPAC (though this person is unaware of such a thing), it must be noted that we continue to see scrimmages in the schism which started it all — when Larouche broke from Trotsky — so this account from Daniel Burke of exchanging religious dogma disputes with a Trotskyite can be viewed as just a continuation of a 50 year Civil War.

III. Chris Hedges Ignores Diane Sare

Outside of Daniel Burke’s Twitter feed, there is no coverage of Diane Sare being cut off at a Chris Hedges q and a session. The takeaway from the Larouchie faithful is of Chris Hedges getting EXPOSED as a gatekeeper — and shutting Diane Safe from popular consciousness. (“Cancelled”?)

Meanwhile, the usual suspects give Chris Hedges a thumbs up.

Curiously, at least one Twitterer has sourced Larouche material to arrive at the conclusion — Assange and Snowden are parts of the conspiracy. How this jives with him seeing EIR sell “Free Assange”, dunno.

The Larouche Movement has yet to respond to this challenge. I want a rumble!!!

IV. Daniel Burke Scopes Out NYC Party Scene

Daniel Burke wants to know: Where do young people in NYC go to bars, on Friday nights in June 2021? I want to campaign where there is a flood of young people. Hm. I hear the kids are into the Goth these days. And the Techno. Check out the Goth Techno scene… Surely you will pick up new Larouchies there.

Hm. To make a revolutionary discovery, that individual will have to overcome every assumption in the theorem lattice of their society—so, it is true that even in a degraded culture (like our own), this potential exists. Imagine the world where everyone, or the mass of people, are making revolutionary discoveries, and revolutionary discoveries all the time at that. Such a world can not exist, as revolutionary discoveries will be devalued (degraded, possibly) to the point where they cannot be considered revolutionary discoveries — BY DEFINITION. Or maybe we will end up with a revolutionary discovery inflation… Like, how every new youth get defined as the “trophy generation” for feelings of entitlements.

Hey, though! We do find people receptive to Larouche’s message: Once the edibles start kicking in in earnest, should I start watching Lyndon LaRouche videos? Maybe a cannabis cafe is the way to go. The conclusion: Okay so watching Lyndon LaRouche campaign ads while high was fucking amazing and I have no idea whether I should take them seriously or ironically and no idea whether to agree or disagree. Once the decision is made, there is merchandise available.

Hm. Whether or not the stoner crowd goes for the LORG, gotta get there before LPAC comes in with their material — whether or not it is as Daniel Burke derides — Nah that’s the pathetic evil break off crowd. They use LaRouche’s name while rejecting his love of all mankind. […] Doubt it. That is an old poster, but I bet they are just reusing it. The guy who posted it acted like he just ran into them. […] Yeah but look at how demoralized they are, putting up a sign the printer ruined. I bet they didn’t even check the QR. — Whoever gets the mind space first will always be their representation of Larouchism.

Not necessarily promising a sign: I’m convinced that if Lyndon LaRouche never renounced Marxism left twitter would be infested with unironic LaRoucheites as well as Dengists and other such folk.

V. Now flooding the zone in “larouche Twitter”, which has been for the past several months dominated by Daniel Burke… It is “lindy larouche“. Random use of moniker and image as he relates old Conan O’Brien bits and makes a good argument on hypothetical election scenarios. I guess one can count Twitter responders who comment on the joke, keep a tally — do so yourself if interested.

Curiously ripping through tik tok — And at first I do not see anything except the use of the Hamilton musical, and only a small deluge of “larouche” tweets brings me to look deeper and watch the c-note rush by, complete with references to Rockefellar. Someone round those parts digs deeper (looks at her tiktok page) and notes the woman’s eclectic political influences. Altogether, it is amusing that in as much as anything larouchian went viral this last month, it is this tik tok dancer — perhaps giving credence to Daniel Burke’s hypothesis on cultural degeneration. Is she the future of Larouchism?

VI. How goes it, Caleb Maupin?

Maupin refusing to name his mentor? Why is that? I heard him say he was mentored by an “economist” in nyc (who he would not name) that taught him about the supposed possibilty of ‘infinite economic growth’ soon as he said that I suspected it was LaRouche himself! Maupin’s rhetoric has always been too close to larouche’s.

Oh… Maupin moving tactically in the direction?

Maupin’s rejoinder comes in: “I know you are but what am I?

VII. Mike Gravel Dies, Handful of People Know and Care Enough to comment that He ran around with Larouche a bit at the End… We find some people really really dislike him.

… Kudos to the person who placed up the Alex Jones video clip where he specifically threw out high praise, so Gravel and “Gravel Institute” could not dodge the issue behind a “just speaking to anyone” premise. All that besides, Mike Gravel did go on to — upon folding up his 2020 presidential bid — endorse Bernie Sanders, as opposed to the Larouchie uber love of Trump. I suppose it is best to suggest the high point of his late life legacy in fringe politics is his place in a mock committee on extraterrestrial life — and there are a few to choose from for his low point.

Hm…. People need to understand that the Gravel campaign was a trojan horse for the LaRouche Movement. Rebuttal: No it wasn’t.

On the Alex Jones front, I stumble into this Huh? Alex Jones smears of Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr. are remarkably similar to FBI CoinTelPro tactics & serves FBI goals… the crushing of socialist movements, for which LaRouche is one. I am curious to see if there is a new pronounced attitude from Alex Jones — and it is worth noting Jones has not been consistent on things over the years. (There is a pre 2015 Jones and a post 2015 Jones — marking as Ron Paul gets replaced by Donald Trump as Great American Hero — or perhaps better marked as a Kurt Nimmo as main accolyte at infowars era and a Paul Joseph Watson era.). A quick Google search reveals nothing.

VIII. Memories

Matthew Sweet: I once attended a LaRouche meeting in New York where we sang Mozart’s Requiem in solfeggio to a Bontempi beat and an old lady told me the British LaRouche group was an MI6 operation. …. Were they pursuing their campaign for changing the standard tuning of A=440 Hertz, which was a LaRouche thing for a while IIRC ?

This New Yorker cartoon contest entry suffers from the “putting hat on a hat” problem in comedy writing.

you kids missed out… Was he handing out Lyndon Larouche literature? You’re probably too young to remember THAT awesome airport experience. 🙂 Much more aggro than Krishnas.

I remember coming across what were presumably GW undergrad students canvassing/harassing for LaRouche outside of the Foggy Bottom Metro Station in 2004, and it boggled my mind that kids were still getting pulled into his microcult

Shortly after 9/11 I signed up to hand out LaRouche publications at college. Sent me two big boxes of pamphlets then start reading about how women have sexual guilt because their genitals too close to anus and I’m like yeah I am not gonna be passing these out after all.

Yeah but its… LaRouche? Like you can’t take that man seriously. The only guy I knew who really handed out his lit was this would mostly rant about circumcision on the corner (like okay but). The ones in Occupy were easy to spot, their rhetoric was transparently all aesthetic.

Mensa Facebook posts: Honestly, the “League of Lyndons” post when LaRouche died is one of my all-time favorites. I laugh every time I think about it.

series of dreams last night. -trapped in a vampiric dinner with smug 20 yr old Lyndon LaRouche fascists -had to cap off demonic interdimensional rift under an apartment building -glassy orbital space hotel / mall started spinning all the way out of control and crashed to earth […] I’m sure the Lyndon LaRouche fans appeared because of a single tweet i read on this hellsite yesterday

Dateline Burlingame: The weather is fine and the #larouche #loonies are out in downtown #burlingame @ Downtown Burlingame. One mean looking granny.

Better techno thriller than Clancy!

Then there is this. Every day, I’m ALREADY on here telling ppl to GFT. I got into a public fight with some LaRouchies, and my hubs had to drag me away (the guy was twice my size and 1/4 my age). I already KNOW politics ain’t for me except as a watcher. […] Oh those fucks, they used to all over Seattle. I stupidly signed up with them and they wouldn’t stop calling. Next time I saw them, I ran the other way. As far as Twitter I already lost my last account, I have to be good on this one.

Not going unnoticed. they’re aggressively recruiting on the NYC streets, you got time. a LaRouche campaigner stopped me on the street and kept asking me “were you born good or bad? GOOD or BAD?”

When Straussians see LaRouche guys on the street, tradition dictates a rumble for old times sake. […]. These same characters were laughed off W 98th & Broadway on Monday.

They’ll get you with something — I had no idea Larouche wrote stuff like this. Last time I ran into Larouche people was on street in NYC, when they accosted me and tried to convince me Dick Cheney was Satanic. […] lol, while they weren’t wrong, that stuff doesn’t help. LaRouche was a very strong proponent of classical music, RIP.

Forerunners of American Fascism. My father was a union shop steward that also subscribed to the Lyndon LaRouche newsletter. You’re not going to get me with vulgar maxism and the sheer force of cracker grievance – I grew up, inside, the ideology you’re grasping towards.

After eight years embedded in D politics, before exiting, I can say with confidence that the number of times GPUS was discussed was somewhere south of Lyndon Larouche on the frequency list. Probably most discussion during the 8 years of — hm, 1996 – 2004 focused on Nader. Below that, they really have not gotten big enough to warrant some tooth gnashing that Republicans experience with a handful of downballot Libertarians — though there was some aggrivation in Arizona a decade and a half back with Republican bankrolled Green candidates. Larouchies were much discussed at various times over the decades in Illinois, Virginia, and Texas. (Tonally different but probably a point of order in Massachusetts.)

A joke, I assume: Come read my superintelligent Marxist essay about why the left should remain a highly exclusive club no bigger than the size of a public library speaking event. Medium says it’s just a 97-minute read. It’s got over six views and counting. Hope you like footnotes […………..] Lyndon LaRouche was on his path to doing that and he realized it was more fun to engage in Operation Mop-up. And even in that respect he proved cleverer than the people around him because that’s precisely what should be done to political parties across the spectrum.

IX. History

Part of the 1986 Illinois campaignings. Side topic but apparently once Lyndon LaRouche sent his crew to exorcise Eliade’s house (instead of electioneering stuff on Election Day) because he thought Eliade was a witch […] Apparently!!! Because of uhhhhhh witchcraft. I think it’s my second favorite LaRouche spat with an awful person, after Edward Teller [etc]

Hm. Idaho is the only John Birch Society stronghold of the ’60’s that never let up. John Schmitz came in 2nd in ’72. It’s the one state where LaRouche-type independents have consistently done better than other parts of the U.S. Such inaccuracies irritate me, No– McGovern did indeed kick Schmitz’s butt in Idaho 26 to 9.3. The stat that is stuck in his head is the “Beat him in 4 counties”. On that larouche type independents, it might depend on what the hell that means.

The company Larouche sources keep.

… Okay, but which set of Larouchies?

no clue what this means. Wasn’t the political platform of Larouche basically an extended critique of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha * program? * 2x

listing “real” progressives.

I claim neutrality on the “October Surprise”, but I see a flaw in this formation: You always buy into Conspiracy Theories that Lyndon LaRouche was peddling? Investigated by Congress. They found nothing. Trust Congress?

Tshirt for sale.

Flashing back to the turn of the century:  Lyndon “I am the Boomer Doomer” LaRouche

Sigh. This again. Andy Ngo is a dishonest actor, but passable to his Fox News audience — a milk shake thrown at him (vegan, mind you) is “quick drying cement”. The (inadvisable, sure) assault on him — a push by the antifa yahoos — was not enough for his neck brace. That being said…

The fixed premise setting of the conspiratorial mindset.Shredding the January 6th Myth As the result of studies of) the terrorist operations of the 1980s and 1990s, and the hybrid warfare doctrines of various nations, Lyndon LaRouche concluded that there were no naturally evolving terrorist phenomena, that all such terrorist incidents were directed by state actors or the British Empire in one form or another. And it is there that I understand the claim of Larouche as ” the intellectual author of the 9/11 Truth” movement, whether I agree beside the point.

I already have noted “Lengthy Mike” Anderson’s hobby horse line. But nay to this — you need to ask the question to Xi Van Fleet, not Franklin Graham — she is the one who used the term. The big news here is that Mike Anderson finally meets up with Very Online Daniel Burke and… He does not acquit himself well. Surely he can find more damneding material than something calling into question Hitler’s, Stalin’s, and some Capitalists’ motivations at the onset of WW2. I suppose the good news is that Burke’s follow through is asinine enough to suggest had he been up to it, Anderson would be able to throw more carefully argued crap from the book out there — or better to suggest that even as Anderson fails at his job here, Daniel Burke is there to do it for him. So now, Burke dismissed, he can get back to his big Twitter project of citing the politics of South Park cartoons as simply regurgitating the message of Larouche.

The problem with this postulation — once upon a time in a prior decade, I saw anti Wal-Mart piece in a Larouche publication, at the same!e time as I saw an anti Wal-Mart piece in Mother Jones. No matter where you stand on a large search of issues, you will be in agreement with the Larouch goes at some point, at least superficially and at least until paragraph 3 when they just tick off a list of Jewish surnames as Enemies of All Humanity.

(Rub eyes). So we just start ascribing every antisemitic piece of trash to Larouche now?

On the next hand, I have to contemplate the sad world in which this person lives. Never gonna be a good day when antiSemites like Roger Waters and Margorie Taylor Greene are trending this early. Only things missing are Lyndon LaRouche and one of the Haddid girls to make it a full house. I had to wonder — why is his name inflaming this twitterer so? — did he at some point in time talk of Rockefeller controlled weather apparatuses causing forest fires? So, looking up Waters with ” anti-Semitism” — (sigh) — okay, he disagrees with him on Israel and Palestine. The only problem I see there is that if he is hailing forth on it between songs, it will ruin a concert experience, but I tend to side with David Gilmore anyway.

Randomly tossing out this larouche article on how Blair “smeared” larouche through Jeremiah Duggan, nevermind how far we are now from Tony Blair. But I guess this is the world in which they live.

Cute. “Frankfurt Marxist”. I dreamt that Jack Kerouac became a LaRouchie

Some more battles from “the left” against right entryists. I should point out that Matt Tiabbi, back when he was a liberal darling against Bush and then with Rolling Stone — described his desire not to be the new Hunter Thompson but the new HL Mencken.

The bane of “Libertarian Party”: by dent of kookdom, you get lumped in with Larouche. (Swarming about this map). We seem to get a good deal of this: Almost universally the Ron Paul libertarians who annoyed me the most in college are full blown MAGA. The edge lords determined right wing populism was far edgeier.

Here’s WHY: Those people were CRANKS – WE are NOT ”cranks”. Why would I want to associate OUR thing w/CRANKS? That’s it — Cranks always call other Cranks Cranks and deny their own Crankdom. LaRouche was kinda unique. A LOT of refugees from the ’60s COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY Right ended up w/him but he defies simple categorization. I think he was a utopian socialist at base w/more than a passing sympathy for RACIALISM. That’s the best way to think of it.

Just the 80s?

One of the worst theorists, Lyndon LaRouche— who possibly believed his own nonsense– would write articles filled with 50 assertions; one of which might be credibly sourced, with some truth; the other 49 being leaps of logic combined with wild speculation. Art of the con.

Who the heck is DrZ? I’m with you, but DrZ was reading “fringe’ media in 1965 and taking Lyndon LaRouche to lunch to get the outside PoV.

RCam sells the old British set up Hitler and Stalin line.

… Roy Cohn… Now East, strange bedfellows.

Cafe dot com offers up a basic and generic overview of Larouche history.

Bookmark for later podcast pursual. Frank Zappa figures somehow.

HmXenon-129 isotope on Mars? Evidence of US Spece Force trying to terraform the planet? (perhaps in an expedition in 1985, at the request of Ronald Reagan’s Science Advisor, Lyndon LaRouche?) Or. ancient Atomic War that compelled martianoids to colonize Earth?


Investigative report in the offing.

Aussie Larouchie responds making use of old canard. Also we get this “wants a postal bank” as their innocuous fight claim.

Why does everything get the presumption of “false flag until proven otherwise”?

winning friends, influencing people…

And of course a good source for China’s media… Y’know, Abraham Lincoln woulda declared their government Democratic. It is curious that they are citing the Aussie variant of the movement, but then again what you do is throw up a lot of names for the same thing…

… And use the phrase Anglo-American empire’s “War Party”.

One deleted tweet from the party: This article contains a false claim that we were founded by Lyndon LaRouche. Obviously @meriamrobin hasn’t spoken to Craig Isherwood or watched “Who We Are”.  Oh, sure.  Also the Nazi Party predated Hitler’s joining.  Hm.  Steve Allen did The Tonight Show before Johnny Carson. 

(Stephan Ossenkopp does his part — presenting me the question:  who?  Well, he beat out one party in an election.)

Watching the first couple minutes of their introductory video.  And… Um… Well, you can’t mistake the excitement level for  trump Rally.

Behold!  Helga Zepp Larouche provides perhaps the scariest PR job for China’s government yet, coming out Foursquare against Individualism no matter how defined.

I don’t read French, but I do grasp the gist of this material on Jacques Cheminade.

XI.  Is that right?  Dunno…

I want to look into this claim: Loudon County is where LaRouche’s farm was. At the beginning of all this there was a based black woman that everyone was rt’ing. You could tell by her lingo she was a LaRouche person. Not saying there’s anything sinister going on. Quite proud of everyone. A raucous and contentipus issue, and certainly a culturlal flashpoint the Larouchies can exploit. But as of yet I do not see the Larouchie and want to know what language was used —  was “dutch Anglo” here, “anti-Malthusian Alliance” there (dunno about “Aristotle Baconist“– or if we are back into seeing basic rightwing premises good and bad get oh so defined for bashing purposes.  The one thing we do have is Richard Black, former state legislator, speaking — but he can move in and out of Larouche space..

and lastly, Matt Taibbi will probably disagree with Nick Benton.

Aldous Huxley Rules

Thursday, May 27th, 2021
I. Doug MalloukEXPOSED!

the black hammer show I guess we’ll find out if/when a bunch of adjacent leftist organizations start getting ratted out and hit with nunchucks in a weirdly-coordinated way. (Comparisons continue.) this is just LaRouche’s Operation Mop-Up for people who call themselves “influencers”

I’m a Lizard People/Lyndon LaRouche guy, over here.. Better than “communist land base”s.

Battle lines drawn. I was born with an inherent distrust for government/authority.. my dad had us reading LaRouche newsletters when we were kids.. But 2020 has solidified it for me.. I will NEVER lllllllltrust any “Experts” or “Mainstream Scientists” or Government “Doctors” or any Government official.. Who needs experts when you got larouche pamphlets, eh?

II.  Music Theory

What to make of the shout out to Louis Farrakhan?

Farrakhan is playing Beethoven’s violin concerto tomorrow night at 7PM. I think it’s really important that everyone watch. He’s a very good violinist. If you want to listen to music, instead of torturing yourself with some inhuman noise that the British Empire hypnotized you with, then you have to listen to this concert.

And with that diss of the Beatles out of the way, next comes a self promotion, tying the musical ventures of the Larouche Movement with the musical abilities of the Nation of Islam leader.

Then, you must listen to Schiller Institute NYC Chorus, of which I am a member

Sure. Next go to GWAR’s cover of Cindy Lauper’s “She Bop”.

Oh wait. This is, in fact, why pornography is so terrible. It dampens a person’s capacity for empathy. It is the destruction of something beautiful — the mind. The erotic trance prevents a person from concentrating on profound ideas. You become a slave to pleasure.

Quite an analysis for vandalism on historic structures. But LORG is moving over to recruitment field of picking up college drop outs who are disillusioned with cultural pap, and aching for higher culture aims. And thinking (possibly correctly, possibly not) that they jack off too much. BUT

If you’re not watching Farrakhan’s concert right now, you are an idiot. I am finally going to get off twitter.

Sorry, but everyone’s too busy solving the Israeli Palestinian war by building the World Land Bridge.

Daniel Burke has been pulling a crazy Twitter torrent, I guess viewable as a recruitment drive. (“We’re growing”.) Following the logic here… The United States is not the British Empire, although since they assassinated Kennedy, the presidents have gotten progressively more subservient to that system. … Progressively? So… Biden worse than Trump worse than Obama worse than Bush 2 worse than Clinton worse than Bush 1 worse than Reagan worse than Carter worse than Ford worse than Nixon worse than Johnson. Trump sucks now, eh?

Some decent points on mass sensory overload, if pointing to the least subtle production of Disneyland, and stuck in a generational trope — the milennials are old news now, it’s all about the zoomers now — we come up to this hypocritical smash where something — anything — on Oprah is finally brought into focus.

Presented is a 2013 article quoting Oprah on how “racist old people needing to die off” for racial progress. An updated version for today wllould be a picture of an American burdened by a racist elderly person in a wheelchair.

Recall Larouche on the greatness of the new generation circa 2002, or at least those who dropped in to get theater practice with Robert Beltran and practice doubling squares, as against the hopeless degeneracy of the Baby Boom generation.  I guess they are delving into this same cultural terrain of giving college drop outs a new set of teachers — not beholden to Disney )(a little bit of work to do as the suggestion that place is the ONLY entity not beholden to Disney suggests LORG is.). And with this the youth may be suscepible to that message that

Rules are Satanic.  And sell them on the biggest humiliation the larouchies suffered in these past few years, which we see that they view as a victory — when AOC was confronted by a universally viewed as lunatic LPACer with an “eat the babies” mantra. Yes Generation Zoomer — you too can have what she had!

PS LaRouchePAC is a group of evil people who took LaRouche’s name but only desecrate his legacy. Yeah, and it is a short countdown to tell that to this guy, who does not know that Planet Larouche has broken into two factions, and is liable to mistakenly just mock these tweeterers.

The Civil War commences again. Yeah, when will the bloodshed end?

III.  Part 2

Like an adolescent punk rock fan poohpoohing popular punk acts as not being real punk, whether accurately or not irrelevant to the concern of categorization and snobbishness. So you dig any classical, baroque, or romantic musician not named Mozart?. Prepare to get Mozart shoved loudly into your face, you fool! You will be Mozarted!!!

Prolific Twitterer Daniel Burke argues against the musical tastes of Larouche adjacent R Cam. Johnny Cash is crap, apparently. See too Bob Dylan. Everything fell apart when the British stepped in and created Jazz to ruin America. Or maybe it started with Euclidean geometry.

Then again, this tweet here may explain why the Larouchies reject any contemporary popular music… Because all I hear with this tweet is Bruce Springsteen with “Glory Days”, puzzlingly the song’s protagonist at least lived those glory days where here — not so much.

Hm. This is how Furtwangler fought fascism. I think you will approve.

Yeah, well… Here’s how Jello Biafro fought neo-liberalism.  Much of the lyrics should appeal to the Larouchies.  It beats the stupid “eat the babies” thingy.

Point: Mankind is a galactic species, regardless of your view. Counterpoint: No it isn’t.

PointYour idea of a “war on drugs” is totally different from LaRouche’s…  LaRouche’s number one anti-drug measure was and is the restoration fo FDR’s 1933 Glass-Steagall.  Counterpoint:  I don’t know if the 80s literature on the drug war involved Glass Steagall let alone prioritize it on page one and on the covers (Someone look up in the index to tell me — How many references does Dope Inc make to Glass Steagall?), but they sure were happy to collect credit card information from the populace supporting the accepted terms and support the politicos implementing the definition of the phrase “War on Drugs”.

Curious, this. It goes back to McGeorge Bundy, the Ford Foundation, and LaRouche. What do you think Operation Mop-up was?  Begs a few questions — in Larouchian lore, who beat up who?

An epic Twitter debate between Daniel Burke and a “bald head man”, whose Twitter address has a “2” after it suggesting bald head man 1 was already taken. Burke slides back to the cudgel of shouting “agape!”, which surely wins any debate to those with full agape.

IV. Woke Forces Go After Aldous Huxley at Western Washington University, picking up Larouche Attacks

All we have to do is open our eyes and look. The A.S. Review’s op-ed arguing for the denaming is pulled out of the creationist, anti-evolution, anti-science, white supremacist swamp of disinformation and conspiracy. The article is written by Paul Glumaz, a long-term activist for the Lynldon LaRouche organization. He published in Executive Intelligence Review, a notorious LaRouche newsmagazine known for hawking conspiracy theories over the past five decades, including that climate change is a hoax and the “Big Lie” conspiracy that claims the election was stolen from Trump. Glumaz himself is currently a leading promoter of the Big Lie.

Glumaz’s article is a tour de force synthesis of the creationist, Christian fundamentalist, anti-science attacks on Huxley. The attacks have spread and multiplied since Henry M. Morris published an article in 1973 accusing Huxley of racism and connecting evolutionary theory to genocide. Morris was the founder of scientific creationism, a fanatical anti-evolutionist and himself a racist who supported a biblical justification for slavery.

Glumaz’s absurd rhetoric escalates to a dramatic climax of mind-control conspiracy where Huxley single-handedly (well, with a little help from Darwin) purges God and scripture from society. In its place he builds an “empire of Malthusian genocide” (Malthusian often being code for birth control and reproductive rights) that is leading us into a secular “Dark Age collapse of civilization.”


Glumaz’s arguments are used throughout the A.S. Review op-ed. We should take to heart the concluding words of Paul White, one of the distinguished historians the Task Force asked to comment on Huxley’s legacy. White is the editor and research associate for the Darwin Correspondence Project, at Cambridge University. White wrote the following about the A.S. Review articles:

“I have tried to understand something of the situation you are facing, and have read several articles in the AS Review (“Thomas Huxley: Once Respected, Now Rejected,” “Students Continue to Push for Huxley College Name Change”). These are not well informed and are stitched together from a handful of sources. From the Executive Intelligence Review (one of the sources cited), I learned that Huxley orchestrated the hideous conspiracy that man is an instinct driven ape-like creature. Huxley is described as an abolitionist, he was in fact much more than this. He called for the elimination of all political, legal, and economic prejudices, equal rights and opportunities for people of all races (and sexes). If the staff and students agree to remove Huxley’s name, they should at least do so with a better understanding of his views, and an appreciation for his place in the history of human emancipation and activism.”

The Glumaz citation was also included in the follow-up research document submitted to the Task Force, and the basic framework and arguments were maintained. Quote-mining is used extensively throughout the report, with most of the lifted passages quote-mined previously by creationists. Virtually all the arguments against Huxley can be traced back to creationist sources.

The “man is not an ape” line dragged out to prove a Malthusian pessimism by opponents, curiously for a man who spent a lifetime predicting quarterly apocalypses here called — ironically — an Optimist.

The brilliant, agapic statement of Xi Jinping … Yeah, 0.5¥ has been deposited to your account  (and the entre to Iranian Press extended to Bill Jones)– Now he’s just burning his bridges to lpac.   And ensure that if previously Larouche fan Alex Jones has someone on the show, it will be from the load faction — should they submerge Xi agapism enough — see the current poll on info wars:

What’s The Next Crisis China And The Globalists Will Unleash?
Food/water shortage Another energy attack Weather disaster World war

LORG still has grayzone, though.  They have work to do to move from eyes coming back on China regarding Wuhan labs.

On this discussion on Twitter regarding China’s government’s perfidy, somewhere short of the comments of Jacques Cheminade — LORG is laying it on thick, aren’t they?

V.  Memories

That one time… Yep. I nearly missed a flight out of Houston Hobby (i.e., cops offered me option to return my husband in the bar or be detained) in the early 80s for picking a fight with Lyndon LaRouche followers. […] I also ran into LaRouche folks at a table in front of City Hall in Monterey, CA about 4 yrs ago. They remain crazy as ever. (No police intervention was needed that time

Watching Congressional GQPr’s interact with actual voters reminds of Barney Frank, when he told a Larouche nut that arguing with her was “like arguing with a dining room table.”

2 girls from my HS turned down full rides to Stanford to work for the Lyndon LaRouche campaign

More professionally, Our Town. I remember Our Town’s going after crackpot Lyndon LaRouche, who posted his minions at NYCO airport terminals in the days when I often had to fly for work. So Our Town always gave me fodder for airport arguments with cultists. I recall Our Town’s coverage of our efforts on the UES to save the City and Suburban Houses, and it was an Our Town reporter who caught then Mayor Koch on City Hall’s steps shaking his finger and berating me for “perverting the letter and spirit of the Landmarks Law, saying, “Mr. Gold – it is a perversion!

Favorite “insult”: LaRouchite told me that I was being too objective by asking him what ideas LaRouche had other than his economic craziness.

Hm. I went on a date once with a girl who tried to recruit me. I went to one meeting with her then spent an evening trying to get her to leave the cult, while she kept insisting I give it another chance. It was a wild meeting. Poetry and reading classics and shit

Remembering Nataliya Vitrenko through her 2004 campaign poster,key data

heh There’s an old story about some LaRouchies showing up to a Foucault lecture in the 70s and accusing him of being a CIA plant. Today they could instead go to Langley and accuse the CIA directors of being Foucauldian plants.

Regretable youthful discretions. When I was just 17 I campaigned for Lyndon LaRouche so don’t be embarrassed about John Edwards! I was young and impressionable and was too immature to do any real research on who he was. My husband set me straight. I was always very careful after that!

Recent victim. If you feel bad about yourself just remember that at least you did not come under the influence of Lyndon LaRouche for about a month in late 2015.

Red Pill Diaries.

College bits: I went to Brandeis and my first big story at the college newspaper was when the radio station brought in some LaRouche lljugend to talk about the world affairs and the speaker dove right into the links between the Queen, the Triad gangs and, I think, Abba Eban, whom the speaker claimed helped the SS round up Jews. It was scheduled for right after a lecture by a professor on the Holocaust, and some kids who got out of that wandered into the LaRouche thing, and, well, it didn’t end well (fortunately, only one kid was injured enough to require a trip to the ER).

And…  Will never forget my at the time Larouchian friend in college insisting that ‘being woke’ means knowing that george soros’ open society foundation astroturfed blm into existence

Me too! Was kinda convincing for my impressionable 18y.o. brain until they started talking smack about rap music.

BURN!!! Someone once called me the Lyndon LaRouche of Catholic Twitter and this comment has never ceased to haunt me.

Tea Party memories.

Blame it on Dave Emory.

Laffs. Trying to write a joke about Lyndon Larouche warning against the dangers of Italian sandwiches- how Eggplant Parm is “the degenerate food of the hot blooded saracen let loose on a continent built on reason” but it isn’t funny and I dont think anyone (myself included) would get it

VI.  On the Frontlines!

The Battle: The Memo: The GOP’s war is already over — Trump won. The Enemy is completely freaked out over their inability to destroy Trump. If we succeed in getting Trump and his supporters to adopt LaRouche’s American System of Economics, … … we can win over the producer base of the Democratic Party and secure the nation for the rest of this century. Join the ongoing LaRouchePAC class series.  (Common Theme, not entirely accurate — the dems and the reps pretty well cemented as placing 1-2.)

just gave a thumbs up to a larouche guy handing out pamphlets

Dateline Chester, New York, by way of prolific Twitterer Daniel Burke: Campaigning with @LaRoucheOrg in Chester, NY to crush the Great Reset and prevent thermonuclear war. I do not fear thermonuclear war as much as I do

But what I want to know is … Why wasn’t either LORG or LPAC invited into this Planetary Front?

Recruitment prospect. May want to start targeting dentists?

VII.  Aussies

Australian Citizens Party and where is the money coming from?. And how does it prop into China’s propaganda so much?

VIII.  Historical Notices

NAWAPA. Dismissing 21st Century Science and Technology as source of anything.

satanic panic. Has everyone seen this? Larouche whining that not one word about Maury Terry’s Roy Radin “satanic murder plot” was spoken during the trial of his killers. “Cover-up! Buried!” Of course it wasn’t, that’s because it’s all a FANTASY concocted by Maury, a chapter in his epic BS saga

The 1988 campaign, and worth notingHow you know the LaRouchians were a cult: their “Executive Intelligence Review” corespondent looks exactly like LaRouche, down to the glasses. –his latest missives regarding Larouche some decades after leaving the cult.

And that time Larouche spoke before the Oklahoma state Senate as presidential candidate. Because?

John Warner dies — John Warner is the only Republican I ever voted for. Granted, his opponent was Lyndon LaRouche. He took principled stands against Robert Bork & Oliver North. RIPThe election in question.   On this:  John Warner was one of the few Republicans for whom I’ve voted. In ’02, no Democrat challenged him and the alternatives were a Libertarian and one of those LaRouche followers. I figured he was tolerable enough to be the best option.  That election in question.  Yep — John Warner beat Nancy Spannaus twice!

AgainAgain — there are at least two others beyond Debs 1920 and Larouche 1992.  There is Peltier 2004 and Keith Judd 2012.  The latter was in the Democratic Primaries and not the General, so maybe he is dropped depending on definitions.  (This guy at least knows Judd.)

Making the way into historical fiction, how to set a scene: Nava’s narrative will be particularly nostalgic for a certain demographic of readers who came of age in the 1980s, a time when politicians believed it better to lock away those with AIDS and sequester them from public view. This was most evidenced in the creation of a Draconian California state voting proposition, whose legal language opens the novel, and was a very real measure appearing on the November, 1986 ballot and authored by notorious homophobe Lyndon LaRouche.

A fierce discussion on various presidential primary seasons mocking Sanders by comparing him to Larouche.

The question — Who is the greatest president we never had? — not getting any responses of Larouche.

IX.  “‘Attempted murder’, now honestly, what is that!? Do they give a Nobel prize for ‘attempted’ chemistry?”

Here we see Helga direct us to the defense of Larouche against the Oligarch.  And an  interesting defense to say the least.

A federal grand jury indicted LaRouche and 12 associates on credit card fraud and obstruction of justice; the charges alleged that they had attempted to defraud people of millions of dollars, including several elderly people, by borrowing money they did not intend to repay.

Borrowing money with no initial intent to pay anything back is a mental crime. You do not have to actually commit it. This is a THOUGHT crime like going to a bank to borrow money and then claiming you do not intend to pay off the debt. But this is how the law works – it is a mental thought that they prove by innuendo, circumstantial evidence, and it becomes does the jury BELIEVE it is more likely or not that there was no intent. We could lock up most of Congress and the White House using these theories. They borrow every year with no intention to pay anything back.

When you get 2 percent of the vote … Somewhere

Saturday, May 1st, 2021

I. Larouche Org Declares War on Oprah.

Cloret Carl Ferguson has a call to action to the citizens of Brattleboro.

Who holds the Oprahs, Bezos, Gates, and Soroses to account, boasting of their trillions gained in 2020 – the pandemic year – knowing their mass of wealth is built on the corpses of so many millions of people?

Reader, will you act?


Ron Wieczorek writes to his editor … a chilling vision of coming doom.

Because you didn’t listen, we are now at the brink of a third world war, as the NATO allies conduct an intensifying policy of containment and confrontation against China and Russia. Should such a war occur, it would rapidly escalate into thermonuclear extinction of civilization. Instead of geopolitics, LaRouche proposed a dialogue of cultures, and a World Land-Bridge of development corridors.

These are the stakes: Oprah must be stopped.

II. Kanye West. Bernie Sanders, Gus Hall, Pat Buchanan. DSA. Chris Christie. Trump’s finance chairman is Lyndon LaRouche. Tulsi Gabbard. Kris Kobach. Lin Wood and Krakens. “neoconservatism”. (Positively) Caitlyn Jenner. John Cox. black hammer as “Larouche / red guard Austin” thing. jd vance. Trump supporting facebook protests.

One query — Mike Gravel — did he “become a Larouchite” after his time as Senator… Or after his run for President? Important distinctions in finding meaning here. (His alliance here perenial subject, with sometimes unclear reference points.)

III. Dateline Australia

A group representing post office licensees has defended links to a fringe political party accused of racism, anti-Semitism and conspiracy theories.

Licensed Post Office Group copped bipartisan criticism at a Senate hearing on Tuesday over links to the Australian Citizens Party.

LPO Group executive director Angela Cramp said it was great to receive support from the party.

“I have no understanding of what the citizens party represents. They are citizens of Australia. They are aligned with us,” she told the hearing.

Liberal senator Sarah Henderson asked why LPO Group’s campaign to phone ministers’ offices urging for former Australia Post boss Christine Holgate to be reinstated was aided by the party.

“I am questioning why you would be working with an organisation known to be anti-Semitic, racist and also with many of its policies’ foundation in conspiracy theories,” she said.

Cramp believes Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s furious rebuke of former Australia Post boss Christine Holgate in parliament was a “calculated set up” rather than an overreaction.

Twitter reaction: party that is over 30 years old and is far different to when it first formed. So ideological change is not allowed in your world? Is any party the same now, as what it was 30 years ago?

Rebutted with: LoL Are they or are they not still affiliated with the international LaRouche Movement? And the policy of re-establishing a government bank would hurt the LPOs and their Bank@Post deal.

also out of australiaand

IV. So many memories…

Hands up who misses the “how to tell if your neighbour has been brainwashed about Lyndon LaRouche” page?

Remember the LaRouche crackpots staked out at the Tax Assessor’s office on Lake Front?

What’s the most awkward date y’all ever been on?

say da This one time I came up on a guy handbilling near a community board meeting. Another dude was screaming at him calling him a communist. I told mad guy to fuck off and go back inside. It turned out guy #1 was a fascist with the Lyndon Larouche cult. Told him to fuck off too.

Deleted: In my college years, being curious about politics, I got a LaRouche book. I tried to read it. I considered myself a reasonably informed and intelligent person. I could not for the life of me figure out what the movement was about.

I went back and started reading about it the other day and, same

heh. No joke, would consider it. such fond memories of arguing w/LaRouchie who hung out outside my bank on Vermont Ave in Los Feliz & insisted Bertrand Russell wanted nuclear war; I’d say “no he’s *describing* it cuz he’s against it” and we’d just repeat ourselves until I got tired

gonna lie, I kinda miss seeing these goofs around, from 2001-2016 they were everywhere in L.A., Philly, NYC

Say Da I remember the Lindon LaRouche people walking with signs of Obama wearing a Hitler Moustache calling him a Nazi in 2009 as I was driving, my wife started yelling at them for the fascists they were.

Oh yeah – There were LaRouchites, pushing that garbage, outside my local post office in 2009.

wish Lyndon LaRouche was still around terrorizing northern Virginia

There was a LaRouche acolyte who used to come hand out pamphlets and wear sandwich boards outside Yeshiva University. He was always mostly cordial, which struck me as incredibly odd for a Holocaust denier.

Really? Everyone finally found out about Gazi and LaRouche. The other weird-ass founders of orgs people tried to recruit me into in 2016 will become memes soon enough

Point: A big reason I never even flirted with 9/11Truth was that by 9/13, LaRouche ppl were on campus insisting it was an inside job bc only US military pilots would know how to disable transponders & navigate expertly through NYC to hit those targets. Their certainty, just 2 days later, based on such clearly wrong assumptions pretty much innoculated me.

Counterpoint: What was your introduction into the “Conspiracy Life”? 9/11 did it for me.. but I used to read/listen to my dad read Lyndon LaRouche when I was a little kid. He used to get a newsletter, and tell me all the good conspiracy sItories. #LaRouche #GoodDadMemories

hm. such fond memories of arguing w/LaRouchie who hung out outside my bank on Vermont Ave in Los Feliz & insisted Bertrand Russell wanted nuclear war; I’d say “no he’s *describing* it cuz he’s against it” and we’d just repeat ourselves until I got tired

ok. Boyle talking about Carl Schmitt and Leo Strauss i feel like I’m 15 years ago, in the streets of Washington, spreading Lyndon Larouche’s “Children of Satan” pamphlet.

I once wasted an hour on the LaRouche drones. Never again. 😂❤️

I nearly missed a flight out of Houston Hobby (i.e., cops offered me option to return my husband in the bar or be detained) in the early 80s for picking a fight with Lyndon LaRouche followers.

I also ran into LaRouche folks at a table in front of City Hall in Monterey, CA about 4 yrs ago. They remain crazy as ever. (No police intervention was needed that time

and… i went to a cadem convention in college. grim affair. however there was a literal choir of larouchies sing-protesting outside

V. LORG makes friends and influences people.

Bunch of lies! They have been against the green movement because it was the late prince Phillip who wrote it not AOC. The eat babies comment was to mute AOC! Not a real comment, but a distraction to green polices that will limit the relative potential of all humans. Go be Amish

What you’re dealing with in this situation, is a victim of mass-brainwashing by the U.S. media, an individual who has taken his opinion from a mass media.

Sure. That time LaRouche wrote the introduction to a book collaborating with an Argentine colonel (guess what side) wherein the argument is made against victims of torture seeking justice in US courts

Fishing for Larouche recruits… Q Assist. Is the Larouche Organization trying for qanoners by way of subterfuge now?

Intrigued by this: Breitbart promotes Newton trap against Science and hypothesis! Lyndon LaRouche is correct about British Agent Newton, which suggests Breitbart is mirroring a Larouche narratve, I google what it is Breitbart has on Newton… Oh, chiding some collegiate reframing of Newton’s “white privilege”. Other bits of names dropping conspiracies… Personally, I can never recall if Nicholas de CUSA is on the friend, foe, or moved from one to the other list.

So it is… Larouche is like a kitsch American gift store retailing all the wares of European thought in distorted and warped forms. Trotskyist critiques of the Soviet Union become theories about how the Soviet Union was created by MI6 and Financial Capital tied to City of London etc If I had spent years in the American SWP I’d write books about how Trotsky was a British agent too. Truth be told, if intelligence operatives weren’t involved in organisations like the SWP, what were they doing with their budgets? Those organisations are all shit for class struggle too. I wouldn’t be surprised if the entire western left is Larouche-lite compromised today.U

Daniel Burke sees someone quoting Confucius and Mao, reaches out. As the old Millennials give way to the next “Youth Movement” the big push happening now, the question is — Is there a mass of Zoomer Maoists for the taking?

Mike Billington does McDuff Lives and garners a This guy really likes China.

Curious response to Schlanger : I am Jewish and even I can see the manipulation.

Meantime, over in lpac-land, Putin, like Trump, RULES. Biden sucks; Giuliani rules.

In as much as politicos are ever discussed, if they want to deal with Matt Gaetz, they can possibly hit hard the medical marijuana angle even if before you get there you are staring at Roger Stone. Probably best to change topics to Mozart and Trains — even though the latter topic is Biden – Buttigieg complicated.

A sign of revulsion from he target market on China.

VI. Electoral Digging.

HEY! is it acceptable to put a Lyndon LaRouche bumper sticker on my car?

Digging into voting data as to the Democratic nomination race in Arkansas 2000 and 2012. See here a dissection of Larouche’s 1984 Presidential vote — and this map spotlighting his best counties where he cracked 2 percent.


Noted, this accused Mondale in ads of being ”an agent of Soviet influence” controlled by a Swiss-dominated ”international grain cartel.”
. Watching the Mondale bahing clip again, I notic that even though I had been placing that “Swiss Grain Cartel”, he never mentions Swiss. I think I have been spreading a falsehood, picked up by multiple figures online, including “mill”…

… Who now also has a pretty awesome map for third party winners by candidate in the 1988 election.

Forgotten merchandise.

I miss Lyndon LaRouche pasting a Hitler ‘stache on the incumbent and calling it a presidential campaign.

Interesting quotes from Lyndon, suggesting a heretofore unknown love of Presidents Garfield and Mckinnley, and… a similar phrase as that used by  Jesse Jackson at the 2000 DNC Convention.

Matthew Yglesias gives out a Roschach Test.


VII.  The Mass Strike is elsewhere.

Dateline somewhere or other: Seeing LaRouche people outside the post office is so surreal dude

Daniel Burke fights it out in Peapack, New Jersey … And thermonuclear war never had a chance!  (Had De har)

The hordes gather for an alternate “Mars Day”, because ” Earth Day — Feh”.  The Bullhorn Revolution carries.

Date line East coast:  Does setting up your LaRouche movement stand in front of the post office count as “touching grass”?

AND… There’s this Larouche freak who angrily comments on every lecture uploaded to Robert Brandom’s youtube channel. LORG or LPAC?

VIII.  Mapping disinformation

Commented around hereMatthew Sweet looks at another Russia TV conduit.  And here if you want to pay for it is a dash of a Podcast feature.

IX. Tarpley.

Let the record show, for those observing the machinations of Webster Tarpley and trying to find a conspiratorial plot — under the tutelage of the Larouche movement, he defended Bill Clinton from a vast right wing conspiracy beginning at least in 1994, opposed Obama!a and supported Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary (wrote an anti-Obama book and for a time maintained an anti Obama positioning more consistently than Larouche —  they briefly explored the dark side in December 2008 — but managed to slide into the anti Republican positioning with a new anti Romney book in 2012 which merged to an echo of Democratic politics by the end of the Obama years.  (I am not sure where his pro Putin, exemplified by his ” Putin for Nobel Peace Prize” rally — moved off the table.)

Another blast from the past: Recall Lyndon Larouche’s female African American running mate 4 U.S. president, saying on a TV show, paraphrasing..”Populism is the way to go”. Her clothing was not typical 4 U.S. politician.. Who is that?

Prince Philip, Ramsey Clark … Dead

Saturday, April 10th, 2021

The entire electoral success list of Australia’s Larouche Movement.

The LaRouche Movement has had an interesting yet not very influential history in Australian politics. They actually won Joh Bjlelke-Peterson’s seat in the Queensland Parliament at a by-election following his retirement!  However, that was their only electoral success and they’ve basically been relegated to public access TV and local newspaper appearances since.

And now?

Former Queensland National Party member for Barambah Trevor Perrett charged with indecent treatment of a young girl.

His parliamentary career began in 1988 when he won the seat of Barambah as an independent with support from the far-right Citizens Electoral Council.

Oh the LaRouche liker guy

Within months, he joined the National Party and held office for a decade before he lost his seat to a One Nation candidate.

II.  Pieces of puzzle:  the Larouche — Jones matchup

He’s responsible!  Mr. Alex Jones and I used to be friends and spoke back and fourth on a personal dialogue. He’s even thanked before many times. I got him to let Lyndon LaRouche on his show back several years ago.
Huh.  At the time, the series of Larouche interviews were prefaced with one with Jeffrey Steinberg, who appeared alongside Sean Stone.  They strongly suggested Sean Stone was responsible for getting them in touch with Larouche.  But apparently Karl Ilonummi did it.  Or, “allowed it” — whatever that means.
Alex Jones moved on to having Mike Gravel on, where they engaged in fawning over the man … though Jones never does square the pro China sentiment moving forward into the Trump era.
Notewothy for Gravel.

As for William Binney.

III.  Have to address eventually because it is a constant in Twitter scans.

“Lengthy Mike Anderson” has a bee in his bonnet against claims of political correctness / woke ideology / social justice warrior / “cancel culture”,  (See here) (seeming to argue (and if someone considers this as putting up strawmen, right back atcha) a straight line between an essay published by Lyndon Larouche and this Family Guy clip — or, to the point, that Seth MacFarlane is a Lyndon Larouche dupe.  The responses to his Twitter hobby range from adequate to inadequate in terms of refuting him (and a wide range of gradations between these two poles), but he will regard them all as beyond the pale… Fixed position as he has.

For the great question, “Who are THEY?”,  emphasis staring down a “they” — I dunno… Assholes?

Ironic rebuttal to a parcel of the argument.

Hm… ” The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts. While the stupid ones are full of confidence.” – Charles Bukowski

To be sure, though, I am sure and lack any doubt that THIS

I think LaRouche has Badiou beat at the pass at least with Being and Event; but the interaction with the infinite in Immanence of Truths seems to level the playing field somewhat. Am waiting for Reinhard’s translation to tally the full bout

is pure crap.

IV.  LORG!  LPAC!  The Battle Rages…

local news coverage showing LORG taking it to the LPAC stronghold.    (Where they sell a backs history centered on NASA and space weaponry).

BURN! Is this Trump Political Action Committee? 🤣

It’s seen with Kesha Rogers gushing over Trump’s cpac speech as viewed on nrwsmax.

The word is not wholly out as we see those fellow refer to “the Schiller Institute of the Larouche PAC”.

LPAC may be having an identity crisis, as evidenced by the dropping of this biblical passage on a tweet linking to a nuclear power article — And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. —Genesis 1:28 —  subsequently deleted — Is LPAC unsure about the Christian market?  (They are Certain on the Trump repeater role.)

John McCarthy takes on LORG’s anti China stance.  He deploys the Big Insult — –  Comparisons with The Epoch TimesThis kooky article sounds like it belongs in the pages of Falun Gong Show rag The Epoch Times not on a site that pretends to represent LaRouche.  The Epoch Times being a Trump butt kissing paper.

Accusation from lorger to lpac of Stalinism, complete with a phrase I (roughly) used — ” Larouchism just for one country”.  (Lorg evidentally more true to Larouche’s Trotskyist roots.)  See also the demand to.”say her name” (Helga) and the plea Ben, why are you pretending to be the LaRouche’s Movement without Helga?  

Speaking of history down the memory hole: Chatted with some Larocuheites by my work. They have never read Dialectical Economics, nor did they know about LaRouche’s days as an SWP member. They did tell me that Marx was an agent of the British Empire though.

On LORG’s part… I don’t get it.  Unidentifiable bald old white guy’s (closest I can make out is Lyndon Johnson — which would be pretty darned anachronistic… Prince Philips, maybe?) rib-cage is Nazi?  I guess this is the message they are going with, suggesting LPAC may just win. 

Iran’s Press TV consults Richard Black.

V.  The passing of a royal brings out a bit…

of a this thing here… In 1998, when I worked for @algore, Lyndon LaRouche pamphlets proclaimed that Gore was engaged in Bond villain-style global conspiracy to rule the world with Prince Philip. It was not, to my knowledge, true. Still, I thought the Prince would rather like the idea.

The passing of Ramsey Clark leaves me wondering how deep in an obituary the name of the unpopular cause Larouche will drop.   Appears in the New York Times, one in a list of unpopulars.  See too Washington Post.

Conservatives came to loathe Clark, but support for him also began to erode among left-leaning activists as he made a habit of defending a rogues’ gallery of accused terrorists and war criminals.

I wish he didn’t do some of these things,” Leslie Cagan, a peace activist, said of Clark in a 2005 interview with the New York Observer. “He is one of the few public well-known leftists in this country, and it does make our work harder sometimes.”

His client list included political extremist Lyndon LaRouche; several followers of the Branch Davidian cult leader David Koresh; former Black Panther Mumia Abu-Jamal, sentenced to death row for killing a Philadelphia police officer; and Lori Berenson, an American who was imprisoned in Peru for aiding a Marxist revolutionary group.

Mumia probably leaves “the Left” supporting him — not sure how to rate his backing of the North Korean dictatorship as opposed to America’s sham democracy.   Though we see round about some tweets suggestions on how “making it harder for us” may be the point,  with some Leftwing denunciations on twitter, following that analysis from that time period when Clark would appear on Democracy Now all the time and lobbying for Bush’s Impeachment at Bush’s high mark in public approval.

Clark also defended Slobodan Milosevic, the former president of former Serbia and Yugoslavia, who died while being tried for genocide by a United Nations tribunal at The Hague; Elizaphan Ntakirutimana, a Rwandan pastor who was found guilty of engineering a massacre of ethnic Tutsis inside his church; and Karl Linnas, an elderly former commander of a Nazi concentration camp. … Saddam Hussein.

For LORG’s part it gives Helga the evangelical opportunity to dump the exonerate Larry he message to “heavy hitter” Ramsey Clark Memorializing Twitterers — heavy hitters who appear to delete the message almost instantaneous!y.  There is some hidden history in that Clark had prior been an enemy Larouche saw as out to get him.

VI.   Larouche references are in vogue in reference to news  on the Trump fundraising tactics.  

One issue that keeps popping up. Individuals who are in prison can still run for President of the United States. It’s only happened twice. Most recently was Lyndon LaRouche.

Leonard Peltier was on the ballot for President in 2004 and –though he dropped out before the election — vice president (position under the same legal restrictions) in 2020.  (And some states do have the prohibition against felons running).

Still, neither Debs nor Peltier had Verdi tuning on their platform.

(Um.  Was Roger Stone allied with Larouche back then?  No.  Was with Trump, though.)

VII.  Memories

One. I remember reading the Larouchies’ The New Federalist paper back in college. Used them as drop cloths for room painting as there were stacks of em left for free. The Q

Deleted: I swear I know of that guy. There was a house at 185th and Meridian that used to have all kinds of Lyndon Larouche stuff up in the windows. Obama in clown makeup and stuff.u

I used to enjoy getting into arguments with LaRouche idiots at the bus stop on 1st and Pine. That shit was hilarious. This was like 15-20 years ago

The Ave… you had to worry about everyone there. If it wasn’t the Larouchies, it was Hari Krishnas or Scientologists.

and Oh I so remember, this would have been about 1982, when the LaRouche people sent their crazy to a friend of mine who was a delegate to the state Dem convention. It included that Liz was a drug dealer. We all laughed.

Back in the 90s, I accidentally got on the mailing list for his newsletter. (note to self: never sign petitions)

heh. my grandpa telling an extremely boring story about the Socialist Workers Party
“Yeah anyway only this one guy, Lyndon, was making any sense. That was before I really knew who Lyndon LaRouche was, though”
Wait what come again

and when he died me and mdl spent a full week getting high and watching his speeches on youtube lmfao
always got a laugh seeing these guys with their booths outside of gun shows

and. I swear I know of that guy. There was a house at 185th and Meridian that used to have all kinds of Lyndon Larouche stuff up in the windows. Obama in clown makeup and stuff.

I used to enjoy getting into arguments with LaRouche idiots at the bus stop on 1st and Pine. That shit was hilarious. This was like 15-20 years ago

Blam!  when I was 15 a lyndon larouche acolyte cornered me in a cafe I worked at and pelted me with goldbug pamphlets — a single traumatic event that cost me likely 100k+ in btc appreciation

ba de dum. If you were a weird college student in the 2000s, your main options were Lyndon LaRouche, Bob Avakian, and improv theater. Two of those were actual cults, and the other one had some pretty interesting ideas about Maoism.

and soIs it wrong that I kinda miss LaRouchies? In college I would just get high and read about how we need to cancel HG Wells because Facebook is his fault.

Heh heh. Once, on a whim, I wrote “Lyndon LaRouche Rules” on a psychology paper before I turned it in. When I got it back, the teacher had noted (in red ink, mind you), “You gotta be kidding.” She totally earned my respect that day.
Interesting time reference perspective.  His followers are best known for standing in airport terminals, wearing ”Feed Jane Fonda to the Whales” buttons and selling magazines about laser beam weapons and nuclear energy.

Say it again. I remember watching and laughing at LaRouche’s 30 prime time infomercials. When people would try to give me political literature on the street, I would say “I’m sorry, but my leader, Lyndon LaRouche, doesn’t want me to accept that.” Oh to be that young again…

(Note: includes video of Alex Jones and Mike Gravel fawning over Larouche, though Jones never does square the pro China sentiment moving forward into the Trump era. Notewothy for GravelGravel.

And. I had a friend and his brother who dropped off the face of the Earth to go to Chicago to live with 8 other people in some apartment working for LaRouche. It was so fucking bizarre.

Debates!  When I was in grad school in Baltimore in the 1980s the Maoists, the Trotskyites and the Lyndon Larouche crowd used to scream at each other across the street while handing out leaflets. Good times.

and There was a local group here that was very pro-Trump and promoted themselves for a long time in front of my local post office, they’re not around anymore and fizzled out when he died but I assume some of them are still around

Yeah we used to have a very active LaRouche chapter in Seattle during the Obama years with the “Obama Hitler” poster, showing up to all the festivals and stuff. I feel like I hadn’t seen them around for a few years even pre-Covid tho.

zoom in on I was chased down the road by LaRouchies when I was working with United Farm Workers. LaRouchies are fignewton insane. They don’t have the right to define anything, let alone U.S. political discourse

The Oklahoma Panhandle is Larouche Land. In every Presidential primary, the Oklahoma panhandle says “watch us vote disproportionately for random candidates”. Klobuchar, Booker, O’Malley, Edwards, Sharpton, LaRouche in Dem primaries. But not just ancestral Dems–Ben Carson, Ron Paul, Alan Keyes, too.

The Grateful Dead at Columbia, as too… will be interested in that one of my clearest memories of Ferris Booth was attending a mayoral debate in which the “Labor Committee” (NCLC: Larouchies, still kind of on the left) really viciously attacked the Communist Party, resulting in a full scale brawl.

The perils of what awaits Andrew Yang campaign. A long time ago, a bunch of white people were holding up Lyndon Larouche signs at the farmers market. Same energy.

The only time I have seen anyone mention LaRouche irl have been elderly black women. No idea what this means

   A long time ago, a bunch of white people were holding up Lyndon Larouche signs at the farmers market. Same energy. 

I rember when I was a kid we never heard about Lyndon LaRouche running for president. The press used to ignore the crackpots. Perhaps we really are returning to normal.

Right. For those old enough to remember, this is a little like encountering a band of Lyndon Larouche supporters out in a college quad, seeing a lot of them and how vocal they were, and worrying Larouche would get elected president.

What’s this have to do with Libertarianism?. I always think of the ’80s. My girlfriend and I getting way too high and falling asleep, only to awaken to a infomercial of Lyndon LaRouche. Talk about operation warped speed! It was weirder than this

Say there.  At 17, I had an argument with a bunch of Larouchians outside a Post Office who insisted that Congress should pass a Law revoking the 2nd Law of Thermo otherwise the Universe would end in heat death and everyone knows that’s impossible.

ParentingThen there was the Obama w/a Hitler mustache sign incident [LaRouche camp.] & we got into a verbal altercation. I’m my father’s daughter.

When?  I was a silly Trot in my early twenties and mostly considered LaRouche a quack at the time, but felt a bit of a pull from some of the overlap. Lol

Hum. The Schiller Institute is a LaRouche “think tank” – extremely fringe, frequently engaging in cult-like behavior, and for some strange reason rather active in Denmark in the early 2000s (which is why I know of them).

VIII.  Current Day

Skipping historical personal voting from Socialist Workers Party to Larouche when he becomes a “Democrat”, with one curious throw to Cox against Harding.  So… Historical Trotskyist turned Larouchite?

(I think this is a joke about Joe Manchin, Democratic Senator from West Virginia, but gets confused in a typo.)Prior Larouche groupings approved of Unger’s anti Bush book in a manner they don’t his anti-Trump book, never mind some Larouche citing for Trump’s Russia dealings.

Qanon is definitely designed to be magnet for the disaffected left, radicalized by repetition on social media , LaRouche -Trotskyist &Pro-Putin has been involved with anti-democracy support for RW authoritarianism narratives and agenda since the 70’s

Wait. Doesn’t The Larouche Movement get any credit?
Indeed, the other attack on the law—popularized by Sarah Palin’s false claim that it would lead to “death panels”—was based on Orszag’s IPAB and an amendment written by Republican Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who pushed allowing Medicare to pay for counseling beneficiaries who wanted to write end-of-life directives or living wills.

Finding Larouche debris amongst the Capitol Hill rioting.

Dateline Sweden. Swedish tiktok teens are going wild for Lyndon Larouche Thought

So when you’re not drinking you deal with your anxiety and various emotions by punching the guy handing out Lyndon LaRouche pamphlets on the corner, right? I mean, I did that drunk but it is really helping me get through some things.

The case of William Jones. The meeting will no doubt set the stage for relations moving forward. President Biden, unlike the former Donald Trump administration, said that he wanted to work together with China on issues that were “in America’s interest.” At this point, not much more can be expected, given the build-up of tensions between the two countries over the last several years.  Hey.  You know who else is advocating easing America’s China posture?  Henry Kissinger, and… Hearty praise from him.  Maybe they can team up?

LORG has wind against its front in American public opinion lpac wants to avoid.

Markel as the New Larouche .

Lyndon LaRouche paved the way for Meghan Markle. he is the real hero

Lyndon ran so Meghan could flyL

Lyndon codified pitch so Markle could sing

Markle is 100% tuned for Verdi pitch

oprahs not asking her what her musical freq of choice is. (Eye logo)

I haven’t seen the interview, but if she’s saying the right things about Aristotelianism, she has my support.

Princess Diane Death dust.  Rehashing the fight at the Princess Di death.

IX.  While everyone ponders the question of the possible coming Andrew Yang mayorialship — New York City — one candidate falls through the cracks.  Meet Jackson Rip Holmes, and a list of people he has met.

On September 8, 2016, an invited guest at former Senator Bob Graham’s (he allowed me  photo) Commemoration Honoring the victims of the 9/11/2001 attack on our country, I learned from other guests that our country has been plagued by inside jobs dating back to the Vietnam War (non-existent Gulf of Tonkin Incident) and beyond, occurring worldwide (Boston Marathon, London metro attack, Chechen attack in Russia 1999, Uyghur Tiananmen Square attack, China).  This launched my study of extraterrestrials, and I have had the honor of connecting with: 1) Roger Stone, friend of President Trump (he allowed me a photo), 2) former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer, 3) Jeffrey Steinberg, of the Lyndon LaRouche PAC, and 4) John Lear, who was one of two people who exposed Area 51.

X.  History’s Mysteries

I had to Google “Mouse Crap Revolution”. The only thing it brings you to is a chapter at Laoucheplanet. Which I guess is why Helga needs to get something else down on it.

Perhaps the need to dig up Columbia University era Larouche lore comes from such kicking up of dust as this here.  (Curious implication that the Larry goes’ biggest foe / competition of the time was The Grateful Dead.)

Theory of the day:  Is it possible that Larouche invented a grandiose theory of British intelligence manipulating American politics to cover for the embarrassment of having ever been involved in the SWP?

An ultimate Rebuttal.

 Moreso.  The problem with Larouche is his lack of evidence. He’d have explained the origin of the cosmos ex nihilo from a British MI6 agent’s asshole if he were able. Certainly intelligence has played a part, but it is a uniquely yank fantasy to view World History as a James Bond film.

Illinois 1986 Perennial reference point for current electoral events.  Fun map!

In 2004, they were big Kerry boosters, as they were also disparaging of Gore as face of Green Fascism .  Now, view him as pushing that “Green New deal”.

To their credit, I haven’t seen that Biden Hitler merchandise from them.  Is there a market for such?

More history.

Tangentially connected to my last tweets, as I found it during the same research, but apparently Louis Farrakhan invited Lyndon LaRouche (?) to the 1996 National African American Leadership Summit. It went about as well as one might expect.

If you say so… Well worth pondering the influence this fellow Anton Chaitkin had on the Larouche narrative which invariably takes some useful information and somehow turns it into a ritual scapegoating of the British, no matter how objectively culpable Jews may be. He claims to be a founder.

Skip to here with that perspective in mind.

The Church of the Subgenius chimes in with a…

Their sleaziness and hypocrisy is incredible! Their press release brags about how they interviewed “America’s number one political prisoner in his jail cell.” But they wisely don’t say WHO that political prisoner might be. One might conclude they meant Leonard Peltier. No. If you ask, it turns out they’re talking about Lyndon LaRouche!

XI.  (Low) Arts and Entertainment.

Simpsons reference alley oop.


Star Trek.  The TNG crew have the same taste in culture as Lyndon LaRouche supporters. It’s his same very specific version of “Western Canon”. Religion may no longer exist in the 24th Century, but you’d think someone would enjoy a nice klezmer or a slice of kugel.  Interesting to note, though, the classic rock listener of Zefran Cochrane in First Contact (but then again he is depicted as an uncultured wino, whereas the Enterprise is the best and brightest) and The Beastie Boys are still played in the future in the reboot.

Alien Vs Predator.  Trubetskoi’s Romano-Germanic conspiracy vs LaRouche’s Anglo-Dutch conspiracy … folks,  (cue movie poster). (Not too far off.)
Hockey coverage by way of Mike Meyers.
XII.  That ” gatekeeper at each higher level” conspiracy theory theme.  You sell this and you can bring some wanna be elitists by sheer flattery.  The flaw is that the seller of such merchandise, by their own logic, can be deemed as just More controlled opposition, a guru sitting at the 50th level… And on one goes,  Searching for a Grand Unified Theory and ” secret history”…. 
A sort of point of agreement, though stuck on the A45th level:  See dee. I’m like 50% sure he was an op.
like not he himself, but the “movement.”
Entertaining enough, with bubbles of worthwhile nuggets of natterings.  So here goes with giant chunks.

All famous people are there to misdirect you. ALL OF THEM. They didn’t accidentally get famous. They don’t accidentally get on TV or in movies or in books or on CDs or on the internet. And they certainly don’t earn their way into these positions, as is now clear.

So how did they get there? Why do you have to see them and hear them all the time? Why do you know who they are? Because they were placed there. They were chosen to fill that position, and they were chosen in order to misdirect you from the truth.

You will say, “C’mon, that can’t be true. All of them? I mean, they disagree with each other. How can they all be placed there?”
Look at it this way: say you wanted to control everyone in the world. Well people are at different levels. They have different interests and beliefs and levels of intelligence. So if you want to control everyone you have to place your guys at all these levels, all possible paths
If you are a football coach setting up a defense, you don’t put all your tacklers in the middle of the field, or on one side. You spread them out. You want to block all paths to the goal.
You have to defend against the run and the pass, the short ball and the long ball.

It is the same with government. If you want to govern people, you have to keep them on the path you have chosen for them. That is how the governors understand government.

You may think government is about keeping people employed and building highways and educating children, but it isn’t. It is about “governing” them. Moving them around at will.
Think of a governess. She keeps the kids out of trouble and molds them into the sort of adults her employer or her society requires. Same thing with the governors. They keep you from troubling them and mold you into someone who can make them richer.

With that goal in mind, the last thing the governors want is “enlightened” people or “self-actualized” people. Those people might make money for themselves, think for themselves, and govern themselves. People like that make very poor clients. People like that are just trouble.
Since people take many different paths, the governors have to place their blockers and tacklers everywhere.
They have to have blockers for smart people and dumb people, lazy people and ambitious people, caring people and uncaring people, progressive people and conservative people, men and women, young and old.

they have to have blockers and tacklers up and down the field, on the fifty-yard line as well as on the five-yard line. If you get past one line of tacklers, they have to have another line ready for you.
To switch the visualization, no matter how high up the mountain you climb, they have to have some guru on a goat-ledge positioned there to shunt you off on the wrong path.  […]

Just imagine the total market for domestic arms sales in the past five years. It boggles the mind. Which means the government is probably playing both sides, as usual.

So make a list of all the famous people selling both sides of this argument. No, really. Write down all the people you love to hate who are on the other side. Then write down all the people that you think are on your side.
Then ask yourself, “Are any of them speaking any sense?” Or are they all promoting this escalation one way or the other? This is how it goes, on all topics
Lyndon LaRouche was right about a lot of things, and he was even right about the “out there” stuff, like the government pushing drugs, laundering money, fluoride, the financial meltdown, pedophilia, and so on. So I went back and studied his writings across the board.
Turns out Lyndon LaRouche was just a higher-level guru, placed fairly far up the mountain to misdirect the most avant of the avant garde conspiracy theorists. He was a Marxist until he was almost 60, which of course I saw as a red flag.
It should now be clear that Marxism was never anything else but a disguised replacement for Republicanism, created to appeal to the idealistic youth of the West who were disenchanted with their own failed institutions.
Socialism was dressed from the beginning to look like a fairer sister of Democracy/Republicanism, but it was actually a crone in poor make-up. It was purposely created to break down immediately into fascism, the way plastic is now made to break down when exposed to light.
Marxism borrowed the egalitarian platitudes of Republicanism, and even outdid it in its flattering of the lower classes; but the theorists conveniently left out any of the hard facts of government, like constitutions or courts or human nature.
By resting the whole theory on the workers, Marx and his buddies knowingly built their edifice.
Though top-down governance is often or usually predatory, bottom-up governance is simply a contradiction in terms. You are just as likely to successfully run a country from workers’ cooperatives as you are to run your house from the kids’ bedroom.
I am all in favor of trade unions and worker-owned companies; but at the same time I would not like to see a co-op of Walmart, McDonald’s, and USPS employees running the country. While the system we have doesn’t put the best people at the top, Marxism wouldn’t either.
But there were many other red flags with LaRouche, including his promotion of Leibniz, Abe Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, NAWAPA, SDI, and so on. LaRouche was a gatekeeper like Chomsky, placed pretty far down the road to catch those who got too far ahead.
Like Chomsky, LaRouche was instructed to admit to a large percentage of US and British crimes, to appeal to progressives and good researchers who had already discovered them. And also like Chomsky, LaRouche was there to prevent deeper truths from being discovered.
Ironically, perhaps, LaRouche was—in most ways—positioned further up the mountain than Chomsky. LaRouche could admit to 911 where Chomsky couldn’t. LaRouche could talk about 𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘳𝘦 crimes that wouldn’t appeal to Chomsky’s audience.
And they were instructed to blow a different smoke regarding Kennedy. Chomsky pretended to be above the whole discussion, but LaRouche was instructed to tell a new variant of the Oliver Stone story, intellectualizing it with the Yalta system and a new player, Mortimer Bloomfield.
You will say I am implying that SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) or parts of it were infiltrated by the government, but LaRouche himself tells us that.
His NCLC was originally a faction of SDS, and although If you can accept what he says—that other New Left organizations were dominated by these government think-tanks and foundations—why not his NCLC?
LaRouche’s organization has all the earmarks of late 1960’s government programs, including brainwashing, violence, cultism, and created confusion, so why not ask the question?
LaRouche writes in his autobiography that in 1971 the NCLC formed ‘intelligence units’, and the following year started training members in paramilitary tactics.” Intelligence units? Does that sound like the language of a Marxist professor, or of a CIA agent?
So if he is an agent, why did they later throw him in jail? Are you sure they did? Several famous people you thought were in jail probably never were, including Ezra Pound and Charles Manson. LaRouche’s alleged time in jail simply glosses up his resume even more.
Notice that LaRouche has always been encouraging confrontation. In the early years we are told his followers beat their Marxist foes with pipes and bats. I think it is just another planted story, but the form of the story is crucial.
They want you to think there is a lot of political violence going on, even though there isn’t; just as now they want you to think there are mass murders every month, although there aren’t.
The billionaires love a manufactured world of fear and chaos, because scared people are easier to control.
None of the articles on LaRouche over the years made any sense, because if LaRouche really were what the articles were claiming—a crazy cultist out to defame America and England—why were they writing about him? Why would the mainstream give someone like that the publicity?
Remember, LaRouche was right about some things, and one of the things he was right about was the CIA’s total control of the press. We didn’t need him to tell us that, since we got proof of it from the Senate hearings in the late 1970’s (see the Church Committee hearings).
Well, given that, why would this controlled press want to publicize LaRouche at all? Why not just ignore him completely? That’s what they do to people they really wish to bury.
So how far back does this rule go, you will ask. Is every famous person in history a plant, or just the living ones? We can take the rule back at least to the Civil War, but the further back we go the more exceptions there will be.
But 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗳𝗮𝗺𝗼𝘂𝘀 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗶𝘀 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗹𝘆 should immediately fall into your bag and ring a bell.
I saw Alan Watts being promoted in strange ways in the film “Her” recently, and had I not already known he was an agent, I would have been alerted to him in that way.
Going further back, we see that Walt Whitman was being promoted in the film Kill Your Darlings. This was one of the red flags that outed him for me.
Since the broad control of media didn’t take effect until recently, there will no doubt be many exceptions to the rule even in the late 19th century and early 20th century. There may be some very few exceptions still.
But don’t make the mistake of assuming that just because you have gone back before 1947 that the control no longer exists. It was less perfect and less broad, but it has existed for many many centuries.

the big Daniel Burke / Jack Posobeic twitter splat

Monday, March 1st, 2021

Daniel Burke throwing it down, calling out famed Internet twitterer alt right adjacent guy I have never heard of Jack Posobeic … for claim of the Trump legacy… Or maybe fighting him on behalf of the integrity of the government of China… these them fighting words
Jack Posobiec wants you to think that Davos is a city in China.
Oh wow. How can Jack Posobeic tecover from this assault on … Boogeyman political reference points? Well…
Is he playing dumb, or does he really not understand the implication?
I don’t even know what this means
Wow. Daniel Burke could not in a million years have expected that response. Is it a zinger? Is it a slap? What exactly is it? Burke will have to work that out hisownself.
The rabble jump all over the place.
I heard Lyndon LaRouche is actually Q
Imagine thinking this is a sick burn or that it even makes sense. Whoops.
Imagine tweeting this thinking it was clever
It’s not a sick burn if you have to explain it bruh

Holy cow! Taking Burke’s side, if only by convenience: No way @JackPosobiec wants his audience to start thinking about anything at all, as his entire grift is reliant on his appeal to the unthinking.
I doubt he cares one whit about Larouche politics but tgey will take thwm where theycan.
If you truly believe this, you’re quite ignorant.
I’ve been following @JackPosobiec for over a year now and he never suggested such a thing. Furthermore, I know better than to think Davos is in China.
Lol, no. He has said multiple times it’s in Switzerland and it’s the place that hosts the World Economic Forum Face with rolling eyes
What it looks like When u are trying u best to discredit an actual journalist because he exposes the truth u & the rest of the MSM have been trying to cover for-for yrs. BC for some reason from ur est tower u all still think we believe or even care what u are pushing! #MAGA
Explain that?????
Huh? Don’t get this.
LaRouchers are still around?
And this idiot is spreading misleading rhetoric. Typical douche bag politician. Can’t stand on his own merits and beliefs but needs to perform character attacks. Tear someone else down to make themselves look better. Hey Danny boy (emphasis on BOY) it ain’t working.
Putting “double” agents to shame with all that agent-ing
Jack Posobiec is a very successful political real estate agent. He lives rent free in every loser’s head. Jack is MY kind of agent.

Posobiec tosses The classic “if they’te all at me, i must be doing something right” line.
Mueller tried to call me a Russian agent
LaRouchers call me an anti-China Soros agent
Far-right calls me a Mossad agent
CNN calls me a smear agent
Neocons call me a chaos agent
All for just having my own opinions

And one more note Lyndon Larouche supporters are probably the only people that accuse conservatives of supporting George Soros.

II. What is William Jones’s title?
Wait. Former???
William Jones is a Washington political analyst, former Executive Intelligence Review White House correspondent and a non-resident fellow of the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies.
Compare it to here meaning he was and now is again?

III. Events are moving fast in the big Larouchw Civil War.
LPAC asserts its founder.
And Maybe this is why Helga hates pacs.

Cometh LORG’s cease and desist issuance on LPAC. Thrown at lpac tweets promoting links that commit the crime of …emphasizes British evil over Chinese benevolence.
LORG partisans cheer. About time. Lyn talked about a Gideon’s army, and we’ve become it.
Wonderful! Let us now get on with realizing the great potential for all of mankind that Lyndon’s life was committed to fulfilling.

So this is the official logo of tge larouche organiztion now?
LPAC partisans jump in: The only question I have for Helga is “I hope you didn’t sell out for cheap Hunter Biden got a billion”…lol

The final caller of the lorg webcast comes in with the “The Percy Shelly /Larouche paradigm will guide us against the diabolical lpac machinations” line, with the Lorger bursting forth on just what will defeat lpac and uphold Percy Shelley Larouche: a 150 volume collected works of Lyndon Larouche to be placed next to the slimmer offerings of Shelly, as too — the building of the Larouche Landbridge visible from Mars, or … Let’s see lpac compete with that!

And this is all good and well, but what is to be done about other entities that use the “Larouche” moniker? (And to avoid all confusion, you have to move on them and also prominent motorcycle clubs.

IV. The most successful vote getting Larouche politician of the twenty-first century– winner of two Democratic party nominations for a Congressional House seat and pusher of a run-off election for Senate — Kesha Rogers — stands with lpac. Meaning she has been disowned by Helga Zepp. And subject to charges from Vrench LORG partisans. So, Kesha Roers with lpac emphasizes a nationalist quote from dear deceased leader whose over whose legacy is getting fought. Mr. Bak responds asking about China, and Ben D repeats a facetious “you must be new” with introductory material to read on the exciting world of lpac’s larouche.
Kesha Rogers. About LaRouchePAC True Patriots in the fight to save our republic. Reviving the #Americansystem #physicaleconomy #crushtheempire
“Al we Americans have immediately at hand is the sleeping nationalist heritage embedded in our bones over more than twenty generations, the heritage of the eighteenth-century, worldwide American…
Benjamin Bak
And the New Silk Road of China AND Lyndon LaRouche ?
Kesha Rogers
Yes, it’s apart of the American System.
Benjamin Bak
Ok. Why the LPAC site don’t say that explicitly in your link, or in the bioagraphy of LaRouche ? Because you know Trunp is anti-China paranoïd ?
It sounds like you’re new to the work of Lyndon LaRouche, glad to see you’re interested in learning more. Check out our introduction to Mr. LaRouche’s decades-long fight for a New Bretton Woods system, and how a New Bretton Woods is still key today,
Benjamin Back
Without Helga, without Schiller Institute. This is sound lije censorship for me. I am a larouchist for thirteen years. Don’t kidding me
Ben @ LaRouche PAC
LaRouchePAC has excellent material on Mr. LaRouche’s genius work on a New Bretton Woods system, how it would operate, and what changes need to be made to the present global system. Mr. LaRouche was ahead of his time, and his work is critical today! Check it out.
Benjamin Bak
That’s what you do to Lyn and Helga. Don’t act like you don’t understand what I’m telling you
Ben @ larouchepac
Mr. LaRouche produced extensive material with LaRouchePAC, check it out! We’ve got a lot of great material to work through if you’d like to learn more about Mr. LaRouche’s New Bretton Woods program.

The Soviet “history deletion” image proferred by Mr. Bak is interesting, as we see Hwlga and LORG taking the Totskyist line and Boyd and LPAC the Stalunist dervived line — “larouche in a single country”, where lorg appears to take on the Trotsky tact.
Back in the day, after Kesha Rogers pushed the Democratic establishment to a run-off primary for Texas Senate seat — Helga Zepp Larouche trumpeted this victory amongst the Larouchoes in Germany, spotlighting a sign “Erst Kesha, dann Kascha” ( First Kesha, then Kascha)”. And now Helga has cancelled Kesha. Kesha’s victory no longer belonging to Helga, who has to find her forerunner to capturing Kadcha elsewhete.
Noting a comparison of Kesha Rogers’s vote tallies to the tepid results Diane Sare and especially Daniel Burke garner –who stand with LORG, and we await to see… Will LPAC run a candidate against Chuck Schumer and Diane Sare? Diane Sare, already making tne rounds at..
Occupy 2021. — and we watched New York Senate candidate Diane Sare—a challenger to Chuck Schumer in 2022—megaphone her platform. It was psychedelic in its leaps from subject to subject—pro-Glass-Steagall Act, anti–solar panels on Long Island, the late Lyndon LaRouche, who was perhaps the human embodiment of horseshoe theory—but I appreciated her ambition. As an aside, I noticed, in addition to the local PIX11, another camera crew from NTD covering the scene, which is, like the Trump-favoring Epoch Times, affiliated with Falun Gong. Agendas were surely afoot, but it’ll come out in the wash later.

All right. Whichever faction gives the most satisfyimg answer to this riddle wins, ok?

V. Memories
and To be fair, the extent of my urban crime fighting in Seattle is telling a couple Lyndon LaRouche minions at a card table with brochures and a poster of Obama with a Hitler mustache, “Fuck you.”
andI remember when I was in college back in 2007 there was a table of people affiliated with that guy LaRouche and they had some pictures of Obama with the Hitler stache.
Is this a “omg. Lyndon Larouce was right!”? You think being harassed by a Lyndon Larouche supporter in a parking lot forty something years ago would have prepared me better for #TheseDays
and In 2005 I was too busy arguing with Lyndon LaRouche cult members on the MySpace Democrats board to know what was going on with Brittany Spears, but I am excited to finally watch the documentary and catch up on everything.
and. Ah yes. The Lyndon LaRouche people. They were always so annoying at Hobby airport. But they were so fringe – I didn’t think such bizarre cult beliefs could grab so many ordinary people.
I was wrong.
DC Represent! Like the LaRouche nuts on DC street corners trying to prove that square roots don’t exist.
From a twitter dialouge relating to Marvel storylines, and reasons for ret-conning for purpose of keeping ages right: Yeah but part of the story kinda required her and Pietro being very young when they did the Hydra / Ultron stuff, so you could feel a bit more forgiving, like that they were basically angry college-age kids who want to protest American Imperialism being exploited, y’know?
I knew lots of similar kids in Olympia who got roped in by LaRouche and Ramtha, you know?
And it continues, rhyming… Turns out it is a drawing (with glitter) of the world, + he explains to me that the world is held up by giant swords (very glittery) and that’s how they control us. Proceeds into a rant only comparable in incoherence to getting dragooned by the LaRouche folk who tried to make me invent math, +then yelled at me for secretly using Newtonian principles. Anyway, glitter map man went to the bathroom + I ran to the metro.
(I’m also the patreon commenter w/the sketchy friend giving me Kushiel’s Dart. Maybe I couldn’t tell if it was weird bc of shit like this?)
And There was a similar map in the Larouche magazine someone dropped at every dorm in college one time. I was disappointed to find out how nuts the rest of the articles were, because I would love to ride the length of that system
hey now I made the mistake of putting LaRouche into my Twitter search and came across a free flowing sewer of swivel eyed, tin foil hat wearing Trumpist bunkem. I should have known better really.
… In recent days, likely the lpacers. The lorgers would sell you on China. Though, before recent days they’ll bothsplit thedifference.
more organization-wise for comparison — falun gong and scientology. following that trail.
Thomas Pynchon, you hack!

VI. Historical notes
A looksee at a 1986 issue of The Advocate.

One enemy passed on.
In two reports in 1984 for “First Camera,” a short-lived NBC news magazine program, Ms. Lynch maintained that Mr. LaRouche was, as she recounted in a 1985 article in The Columbia Journalism Review, “the leader of a violence-prone, anti-Semitic cult that smeared its opponents and sued its critics.”
Former LaRouchians, as they were called, told her that their leader had talked about assassinating President Jimmy Carter. After Ms. Lynch’s reports were broadcast, LaRouche adherents picketed NBC, carrying signs that said, “Lynch Pat Lynch.” She received at least one death threat, and her parents’ Long Island neighborhood was littered with fliers saying that she was running a call-girl operation from their house.
Mr. LaRouche filed a defamation suit against NBC. When a federal jury rejected his claim, NBC countersued, accusing the group of engaging in dirty tricks and impersonating Ms. Lynch to sabotage her reporting.
The jury awarded the network $3 million in damages, an amount later reduced to $258,000.
just another note into wikipedia.

VII. Across the Spectrum.
At long last, a libertarian (or ex libertarian) with any experience of Larouche coming in labeled as a libertarian.
When I first got involved with the Libertarian Party in 2012, I found a strong undercurrent of conspiracy theorism,” Weinman told me by email. “While leadership was happy to ridicule this nonsense behind closed doors, they were unwilling to confront or address it. For decades, the LP had been willing to pander to fringe movements in order to expand their membership. This is why unscrupulous grifters like Lyndon LaRouche, paleocon loons like Pat Buchanan (and frankly Ron Paul), 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, and ultimately anti-Semites and bigots all took shelter under the libertarian label.”

“15 Minutes of Fascism” concerns itself with Larouche. An obituary at 12:30 which is years late and covers nothing much of interest from no terribly enlightening perspective, but worth noting.

A Word of warning to Leftwingers thrown out when Ray McGovern posts to his Larouche appearance.
Flanking left AND right. basically the same shit as libs had with trump, where he´d be agressive towards russia (canceling nuclear and space treaties from like the 60´s) and libs belive to this day the meme propagated by Lyndon LaRouche that he´s a russian puppet. Ironically commented to a clip from Tucker Carlson charging Biden and officials as being cozy with China.

VIII. Britain and Australia
British Royal jokings. And by way of Carey.
So I Married an Axe Murderer

Aussie citing.
vote tallies
Here’s one for you. Candidates who got fewer individual first-preference votes than JJR’s 34:
– Socialist Equality #2, 23 votes
– CEC #2, 19 votes
Everybody else cracked at least 40.
I always assume that any ungrouped candidate or a lower-order super-obscure micro candidate has at least 5 or 10 friends and family who go “oh yeah s/he’s a good egg” and chuck them a first pref. Beyond? I guess if it’s triple digits they might be a local pastor, councillor, etc.

One small part of a politician’s financial scandal.
One Nation has raised questions about the circumstances of Ms Holgate’s departure and the inquiry follows unsubstantiated social media speculation that she did not resign but was pushed out.
Campaigning by licensed post office operators has been fuelled by groups including the Australian Citizens Party, linked to fringe American political figure and conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche.

IX. Where are they now?
Some updating on Xandros CEO Andreas Typaldos.
David P Goldman wouldn’t fit into today’s LORG. Though he references Aristotle enough that it could become a maybe. And it reads to many as though.

LORG flexes its muscles over LPAC, but does lpac have 2 aces up its sleeves?

Sunday, February 7th, 2021

I.  In one last poke in the eyes at the Larouche Movement (both of them), President Donald Trump — surely well aware of the pleas — pointedly did not pardon Julian Assange or Edward Snowden, nor “exonerate Larouche”.  He instead, in a massive rebuke to the Lyndon Larouche Movement (Lord as well as lpac), pardoned Steve Bannon — much derided in Larouchian literature — whose indictment was headlined with ” Good News for the Republic”.   Newly free Steve Bannon goes on to become  an obvious point person in any ” Trumpian Patriot Party” or movement movement, reportedly already reunited…   Surely points Trump’s side as against Daniel Burke’s fantasy.

Part of the question for Trump becomes… What’s less clear is whether he represents a major political tradition that can become persistent beyond his own active career — like, say, Peronism in Argentina — or might shrink into the kind of small and eccentric following that former Marxist Lyndon Larouche led into the right-wing fever swamps.

The question in post Trump America —  can they sell their wares to the Trump loving masses such as… This letter to the editor writer who has “China” on the brain?

With a sold-out-to-China President Biden, a Senate majority Leader Mitch McConnel married to a Chinese lady from a Chinese business family, and a Baltimore mafia family House Majority Leader Pelosi who has had a Chinese “chauffeur” for 20 years, sounds like the country will be close to, if not actually, sold to China.

On the other hand, Trump pardoned Stone — and as we see here, Stone is Trump’s Larouche connection even as Gannon is his Lenin connection.

II. Serious question: Would you rather have Lyndon LaRouche or Marjorie Taylor Greene serving in the United States Congress?
Both are horrible but only one gets the pitch A down to 432 Hz
“Whoever wins we lose” indeed
LaRouche’s schtick has more variety and staying power. Marjorie’s only got the one bit.
Lyndon could recite strange facts about classical music tuning. Marjorie, I would wager, cannot.
Only one of them is willing to stand up to the House of Windsor
I thought I would be entertained by Marjorie but unfortunately she’s looking more and more like a snuff film than the campy horror flick I had imagined.
Given Lyndon LaRouche is dead, I’d say LaRouche.

Someone must clue him in.

 So it is…  It’s like Madison Grant and David Icke and Louis Beam had a baby, and that baby grew up reading Lyndon Larouche’s laser beam theories

Marjorie Taylor Greene, at this moment  all the rage.  And James Follows raises the issue with the question — who is the Democratic Party equivalent?

My two answers are … in recent memory, Cynthia McKinney counts well enough  and that the current Congress the answer is telling of Republican Party malfunction.  In the comments here, Larry McDonald gets a mention (refer to him here because he spoke against Larouche on the Congressional floor) and then of course… There is Larouche.

A bit of irony pops up with This “boomer” insult — instigated by someone making a Larouche reference by way of insulting Marjorie Taylor Greene –in that for the past generation, “boomer” was a Larouchian insult — the better to stoke the egos of the quickly aging Larouche Youth Movement.

Another question is… Previous antecedents for qanon.  In the Obama years, an online “secret insider source” blog appeared by the name of “Ulsterman”.  One difference is that the Larouchies cited Ulsterman’s revelations where qanon was dumped on at least a few times.  One other conspiracy outlet that seems to have fizzled — The Zeitgeist Movement.

We see a podcast series cited as an examination into well known Quaker Burlesque dancer, which evidentally ends at The Lyndon LaRouche PAC, which typically spends down most of the money it raises each cycle, ended 2020 with $49 in the bank, a record low.

And it is thus….. Donald Trump was just compared to Lyndon Larouche on TV…such an insult to Mr. Larouche.  Headlines come in… Stick to the Benedict Arnold angle.
Unsure what specifically is called ” sad”.
A reporter on @CNN just now compared the president with Lyndon LaRouche LMAO
Many will have to Google that name.
Oh so. Almost snapped my own neck turning my head when CNN did a Lyndon Larouche name drop
Douglas Brinkley
LORGers respond to the one mention of Larouche as sign of guns ablazing against Larouche.
It was to be expected that CNN would line up its guns at the LaRouche movement, as it is a coherent movement and with much credibility gained despite the campaign against the image of the movement for What support globalization, neoliberalism the Anti-national state

Further commentary saying the same thing — see Doug Brinkley dropping the name Larouche and sticking to Benedict Arnold.

IV. Memories
I saw the LaRouche movement in Melbourne do exactly this one.
May 2005 paper headline: NUCLEAR WAR THIS MONTH!!!
Interesting item to cite for opposition to Trump’s second impeachment. Many times, legislators, staff, the public had reason for fear. LaRouche’s cult attacked, the East wing fire, post-9/11 fears, threats to kill us/hurt others. You always wonder
Screenshot_20210115-173952. Men never want to have the Lyndon LaRouche Talk.
I had the Lyndon LaRouche Talk with my parents as a teenager.
Have had this exact conversation but I was talking about Huey Long.
Well, we all make our compromises when we get into a committed relationship.

And… Got Lydon Larouche emails for months when I was 18 because a dude had beautiful green eyes. Lost interest once I began reading the Lydon Larouche emails.

And  In the 80s it was Lyndon Larouche and his followers. They’d yell in an airport “do you believe in a strong defense”. If you’d say yes you’d get sucked into a bizarre world of conspiracy. Wierdest was queen of England head of drug trafficking to get US back.

More Here:  I was just reminded of inauguration day 2001, freezing my toes off on 14th St in my knee high Docs, the crowd had so many different agendas (Free Tibet, LaRouche supporters, disgruntled liberals, cannabis legalization). For real people started wailing and crying when it happened.

Competition abounds in the field of pamphleteering.

And… I remember the Lyndon LaRouche people, especially on college campuses. They were so nuts

In class too!  Some Larouche people interrupted a physics class to yell about how Newton was a fraud

Hm. Was in 7th grade, walking in front of the post office when of his fans tried to convince us to support him. From what I remember, he thought the British were trying to re-invade, and didn’t have friends growing up (had conversations with “greats” on lonely walks).

Heh. bf: one night we were on the phone and she hit her toe on the cat perch she says you guys leave out in the middle of the living room and she just let out this string of curse words that ended in LYNDON FUCKJACK LAROUCHE and that’s when i knew i lov– mom: she talks on the phone?

 So more … Boy this brings back memories; the Larouchies were always around when I was working on Central America solidarity demos & campaigns. They were nuts. One time one of them got up to interrupt a speaker by shouting “this event is organized by the imperial presidency!” (cont). some people laughed, some people shouted for him to sit down – the speaker (whose name I forget) just said smthg like “ok, let me know how much Reagan’s going to pay me for speaking tonight.” They were so weird.

1980 I was picking up extra money working at nights at little grocery store in NH—they kept trying to set up a table inside the store to talk to customers-were a pain always tossing them out-Reagan Bush primary elections–One day a goofy looking guy comes in (more). The guy wants to stand in the store and talk to voters–he said: “I’m George Bush’s son–I said “Hi, I’m Herbert F.’s son–now get your ass out of my store” I tossed George W. Bush—out of a store—didn’t even know who he was at the time–kind of proud of it in retrospect

I didn’t doubt it.I actually went–in late 70s to a meeting held by loon ball referenced in the story, “Lydon LaRouche.”A French foreign student with whom I had become friendly insisted I was being led astray by bourgeois feminists and that I needed to join his group to “make + the revolution.” After two meetings, she and I weren’t friends anymore bc he was a dogmatic lunatic and his zombie followers creeped me out. But I miss the days when there were so many groups “making the revolution,” even though that’s one of the reasons it never got made.

How to ditch em My wife has some hilarious stories of the time she became friends with the local LaRouche cult. She had to have a friend tell them she was dead to get them to go away.

 I guess now they have to wander over to OANN… used to see the occasional guy with crazy larouche signs across from the Fox News studios on Sixth Ave in NYC

V.  Date line WA January 6thy.. here…

I’ve been meaning to look into where LaRouche folks were going after his death. Kinda disappointing they just went MAGA. At least the British are still to blame.

Richard Williams Burden weighs in — from afar.

LPAC expressed outage at Lady Gaga’s role at inauguration, as did random left wing Twitterer: Aristotelian:  Lady Gaga singing the national anthem in 4/4 instead of the normal 3/4 is an appropriate musical metaphor: Just as she re-arranged a song that celebrates slavery, neoliberal Democrats are trying to remix the USA to make it woke, when in reality it’s an empire founded on genocide.

this is almost A=432 lyndon larouche level shit.

Brushing aside The Proud Boys as (a) CIA and (b) British by way of Punk.

I guess Richard William Burden has.

VI. Finally… How Trump fulfilled the promise of Larouche and gained their trust and loyalty is explained. Trump has secretly overthrown the Queen is certainly a creative story.

It runs against counter-veiling matters. Funny way for Trump to show his antipathy at British Power, eh?

. Is the tshirt image Lyndon?. Or just some other bald old white guy?

Daniel Burke on the difference between the Civil Rights Protesters of the 60s and MAGA incursion of 1-6-21.
Rebuttal: It was an overall cultural break down. Even if Trump had classical music on Jan.6, 2021, people where already breaking into the Capitol, at 12:40. But, however, it seems to me that why didn’t anyone walk up to Trump during or after his speech and said they are breaking into the C

VII. Noted: LORG has Pennsylvania State Rep. Diamond , Keyed at a Manhattan Project webcast.

LORG also has snagged Daniel Estulin, leaving LPAC with one less asset.  Getting frisky, we see LORG responding to LPAC tweets with “real source” gusto.

The one thing LPAC does appear to have in its corner is Helga helming LORG, tweeting out Onion headlines and wondering if it’s true.

One more thing lpac has going over lorg can be seen in This banner thrown out at the January 6th event:  LORG’s banner would have to have a more complicated url directing everyone to nation builder dot com.

Not a happy prediction for lorg or lpac– But a sign of who has the conspiratorial headspace right now.

VIII.  The red brown alliance analyzed (with mention of Cynthia McKinney) — your mileage may vary — and a Media bias analysis/ report.  They both refer to LPAC, not as yet LORG.

A curiosity… We see LORG and LPAC take the line, entangled in a Proud Boy turning out to be a snitch, that the events of January 6 were some kind of deep state inside job.  And reactions to that news include a recitation of Larouche as CIA.

(Someone has to tell me if this podcast is worthwhile.)

Australia prides itself that their branch of larouchies look very American and not native.

IX. A left wing podcaster / youtuber brings in Daniel Burke based off Snowden and Assange activism.
Holy crap why do you have that insane LaRouche PAC cult tool on your channel?
LaRouche is sketchy, deserves an episode all to himself. Dude operated like a plant, fooled Nader and others with fake left speak kinda like Stoller is trying now. A lot of weird stuff out there about him.

X.  Stirring Hitler debates.

Pontifex:  didn’t say that he’s alive in Argentina, but he didn’t kill himself, do you have any fathom of what you’re talking about? Mind explaining to me why when DNA technology was invented post-War and the soviets tested his body it said it was a woman?

Chief Kirk:  Who cares he’s a coward like trump

Pontifex:  nah, wrong
Chief Kirk 
Hitler ruined the German peoples lives quicker than jews
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII:
nah, he didn’t
Chief Kirk 
Yeah he literally created Israel and smeared the German peoples name. A lot of people suffered and he ultimately loss like a coward.
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII 
lol you’re a coward for having this mentality u pussy
Chief Kirk
What for being brave and winning with ways to save the people instead of create a worse situation?
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII 
Read beowolf
Chief Kirk:  I read beowolf in elementary school homie
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII
then you should know hitler isn’t a coward
Chief Kirk 
I think suicide is cowardly.
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII
he didn’t kill himself bro lmfao, there’s no evidence you’re just repeating a lie
Chief Kirk 
What happened then?
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII 
we don’t know, but he didn’t kill himself, because there’s no proof I don’t believe he’s in Antarctica
Chief Kirk 
Lol fine say he escaped. Why did everybody face charges for what he did? You think that’s brave?
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII 
everybody? this isn’t even true, countless high ranking nazis were just never found, many others got pleas and started working for the US and Russia, I don’t see how a bunch of them escaping somehow makes them cowards, you seem to really hate national socialists, I wonder why.
Chief Kirk
Say I’m the leader, and other people get in trouble and I hide, that’s not leadership quality. You gotta sink with the ship.
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII 
Chief Kirk
Because he created the wars and lost them then ran away (allegedly)
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII
but he didn’t create the wars, and he didn’t run away, he escaped story after story in European history tells of princes, kings, dukes, etc escaping you have weird non-white morality, are your eyes brown?
Chief Kirk 
Then they are cowards too. My eyes could be purple and it wouldn’t change history of German people losing and jews getting israel which is the main problem we face today is people in Israel with power misusing it to control the world.
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII 
Chief Kirk 
name a better leader who has opposed the banking cartel and done as much damage as hitler
Chief Kirk 
the Templar’s are working with the jews look up Synarchy and the fascist bankers that connect in Switzerland banks
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII
Chief Kirk 
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII
Chief Kirk
Pontifex Arianus Saxdianus, MCDLXXXVIII 
Chief Kirk 
And your source is lyndon larouche? and you called ME the Q BOOMER LOL?
Chief Kirk 
Yes you are a q boomer who thinks Hitler was a hero vs the Jewish banking system when he was an Austrian puppet not even German who was put in power to help the Anglo-Jewish banking powers vs Russia
Nancy Spannaus escapes the Larouche past sort of.  Someone else doesn’t.

Civil War in larouche land on full display

Friday, January 8th, 2021

CIVIL WAR BREAKs OUT IN LAROUCHE-LAND. Twitterers turns snippy.

Hoo boy. Reputations hang in the balance. The reputation in question?larouche pac b like “here’s how trump can win if more people listen to beethoven”
It’s “lpac” vetsus “lorg”, and we see that Howie G chooses his side, slamming LPAC by implying (gasp) they’re down with The Beatles.
Sorry, Ben Franklin wasn’t a fan of the Beatles… Maybe Larouche Pac can make The Beatles” their official musical icon now? But if you want to think like Beethoven, go to lorg.
Ben holds it down for LPAC with biting sarcasam.
Good point, I remember reading Franklin’s critique of the Beatles… Very intelligent point you’re making.
To which Howie G makes it personal and does not allow lpac to claim the name “larouche”: yes barbaraboyd pac is having Beatles look alike remote concerts soon to fundraise…. or if you want to think like Beethoven, go to lorg.
And Ben ” goes there”.
Sounds like you should seek some help. There are many good programs out there,
Moving down the list on classic rock radio, Howie G lets the insults flow with another group.
As tears go by…. when is the Rolling Stones concert guys? You can do “look alike” … Maybe Larouche Pac can make rock star official musical icon now? But if you want to think like Beethoven, go to (lorg).
To which the official lpac tweet feed defends its honor by foundational rights.
Not at all sure what you’re referring to re: “Rolling Stones,” but thanks for the promotion of the PAC founded by Lyndon LaRouche!
Will Howie G move on to reference Cheap Trick? Time will tell.

And here we have Ben at lpac making a charge against Helga and LORG …
not joining in the fight
Boom! I called it perfectly. #sunshinepatriots deployed to the opposite side of the main activity, just so you can lead your broadcasts saying, “I was there.”

II. Your warning to the Left.
recent discourse has convinced me that we may see another larouche moment on the left as opportunists attempt to weld chauvinism, conspiracy theory and a workerism of cultural signifiers.
And, an analysis.
Along the same lines… “Red Flash tendencies”.

III. A note to Matthew Sweet, who keeps (understandably enough) passing this line: The prosecutor in the case was the young Robert Mueller.. According to Molly Kronberg posting at the factnet forum not at factnet anymore, Mueller had the most minimal of involvement in the case — nevermind its convenience for Trump era Larouche storylines and nevermind no one outside of laroucheland will think anything of Mueller if it were the case.

A note to Bruce Todd: Who is to blame if Trump does not pardon Snowden, Assange amd especially Larouche? (And where was Bill Weld, winner of one delegate in the 2020 Republican nomination contest, at the Republican roll call?)

IV. We see that Harley Schlanger now gets referenced as “LaRouche Foundation spokesman”, as an entry the SGT Report, this does not put him in lpac or lorg.
An anti-China Larouchie… I guess ripe for the picking by lpac but not lorg.

We see lpac stick up a “Mission of lpac”, which I gather may be a statement of principles in this civil war.
Which faction will answer this concern?

CIA is an extension of mi-6, the Queen’s personal intelligence service. This is the hard and hidden truth which is staring everyone in the face. China walks to the beat of the British Monarchy drum, as had the US for the past century. I can prove it to you, LaRouche already has

We see Daniel Burke getting dozens of replies, and tens of tesponses as he defends Trump’s right to tweets and pbs airplay. For example:
You’d think someone with plans to be a career politician would be aware the President can give statements anytime he wants to for press releases. Or just walk into a local Waffle House and start a fight so someone will record him crying about Pence being mean to him.
And the perpetual question… larouche, really?

V. A NYT article on Noxon supporters in the last days of his administration gets a Larouche allusion. Worth mentionioning, Larouche was right there on behalf of Nixon… Odd Lefties they.

VI. Winning friends and influencing people in the Great Washington Rush. Signs along the highway. And at strip malls…
Recently into December, a friend and customer who frequents a strip mall told me about a LaRouche PAC kiosk place near the retailers still campaigning for the president. That seemed fine before the election, and undestandable a few days after—during the tumult.
However, by Thanksgiving week, we most accepted, even grudgingly, the math that Joe Biden was really going to win. It seems the reality.
Still, the kiosk returned, at this point in time hoping to do what?
And I wonder if this is even helping the folks at the kiosk. They looked like neighbors of similar 60s age and could very well be me. They seem just as concerned as me. One can certainly empathize with that.

VII. Funny thing on this… here

Donald Trump embarks on the next phase of his checkered career as a professional defendant, who will soon be spending more time in court than Perry Mason, the Cruz/Hawley axis of insanity is going to learn some harsh lessons, not the least of which is they have less chance of ever assuming the presidency than Lyndon LaRouche.
Round about here:
Without vast media attention, Trump’s influence will steadily dwindle. See, Huckabee, Mike. By 2024, Trump’s so-called “base” will pretty much consist of the Proud Boys, Alex Jones, Sidney Powell and the tiki torch crowd. Now there’s a gathering of braying beagles for you.
No mention of lpac or lorg. Even though I jad neen pondering a future disgraced Trump as a real “get” for the larouchies, but it does seem he has bigger platforms to “get”.
By 2024 would anyone be surprised to find Trump pimping My Pillows on Glenn Beck’s conspiracy theory radio show?

From the right a couple years’ back, an attempt to warn on Larouche.
If there is a conspiracy, LaRouche is your front-man and he’s trying his best to make Trump supporters seem intellectually weak, nutty and down right dangerous. Stop with the conspiracies and lets get back to trying to save our country.
I want to rescue the good name of conspiracy theorizing, but on the score here — hm… There is a broader prpblem than Larouche as spherehead to ” make Trump supporters seem” all that list.

Can go onto broader parts than contrarian minded prosecutors and defenders: It seems that there is a quick path to kookery for high level prosecutors. I don’t know the answer. I remember watching former US AG Ramsey Clark fall into this hole as well with his support for LaRouche and the Workers World Party.

VIII. LORG has lately been pumping up former surgeon genetal of the Clinton administratipn, Jocelyn Elders. It is worth pointing out the controversy which gave Bill Clinton his reason to fire her… And the specifics of it, which slide against Larouche ideology. The “Malthusian”ist question was whether teaching about masturbation in public schools may be good for population control. Elders’s response dod not directly respond to the ” population control” line.

IX. Noted sic: EIR Lead Article for SUNDAYY, December 20, 2020

And then… LaRouche PAC’s organizers on the ground January 6 in Washington, D.C. found the President’s supporters steadfastly committed to the movement Trump built and to expanding it to meet his promise to make America once again the manufacturing and industrial capital of the world and the center of profound discoveries on the frontiers of science. There was extraordinary and widespread recognition of the pioneering role of Lyndon LaRouche in creating the circumstance for overthrowing the occupation of our country by British, Wall Street, and Silicon Valley oligarchs.
Also there… LORG.

We see them linking to … I assume originally pegging an antifa provacateur for the violence and melee, but instead the Washington Timrs has an update…
Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that XRVision facial recognition software identified Antifa members among rioters who stormed the Capitol Wednesday. XRVision did not identify any Antifa members. The Washington Times apologizes to XRVision for the error.
They still have the Breitbart and asdorted alt right twitteters.

More from this gathering.
And spiritually about: Now is the moment my father said would come if a wacko like Lyndon LaRouche ever got elected. Well done MAGATs.

Quick shout out to Chinese media. Curiously, domestic consumption would stick with an equivalence with antifa or blm.

X. Memories…
ANDIn 1991, co-running GulfWatch, a daily news-sheet of the Scottish churches on the Gulf War & later published by Edinburgh Review I had the LaRouche cult try to recruit me. Daily calls & faxes from Germany of “inside” info. Pushy! Soon sussed it as cultic.

my grandpa had us helping him canvas as soon as we could speak in full sentences. I was 4 and hollering “No Larouche!” outside our polling place because my grandpa was pretty sure they wouldn’t arrest a preschooler for election
My dad loved to get into it with the LaRouchites. “So the Masons are part of this conspiracy? How high up do you have to be to know about it? My Dad’s a Mason. Does Dad know about this? And there’s this guy at my work…does Bob know? How can I find out?”

recalling the one-two punch of the trotskyists and larouche people as i exited the student union like a year ago
larouche people were for sure significantly more deranged, i got around 30 seconds into talking to them before they mentioned “the british” (larouche dogwhistle for jews) and said they were to blame for the state of the modern world.

I’m old enough to remember when — if you wanted to hear stuff like this — you had to find the card table staffed by the LaRouche campaign at the ass-end of DFW airport.

AND I literally came across a LaRouchie stall once. The May edition of their paper said “NUCLEAR WAR TO BREAK OUT THIS MONTH!” The June issue said: “LAROUCHE PREVENTS NUCLEAR WAR!”

DELETED: 1974, college roommate’s brother, a serious larouchite
I got to read 100 page tracts on how American Civilization went off course after Benjamin Franklin
40 years later, in front of supermarket, a lady with a really off vibe, asking for signatures for her run for local office
when i say seriously off vibe, I mean one of those people you say hello to and go, whoa . . something wrong here
you could say LaRouche gave a lot of crazy people a purpose in life
if it kept them out of institutions, IMO, a net good for society.

As a kid I watched a Lyndon LaRouche hourlong ad. He was a respectable looking guy, using a respectable tone of voice, and speaking in complete sentences. Anyhoo, it didn’t take long to figure out that none of what he was saying made a whit of sense – Crenshaw fits that mold

Thomas Pynchon. Still out there.
I am curious what “scene” this “old timer to young whippersnapper” refers.

Interesting. I met with LaRouche supporters annually for about 15-years. I shared an expose which I asked them to read while I read their material.
Really? Interesting. I shopped once or twice in a bookstore he apparently owned in Leesburg, VA. I mean America has a long tradition of tolerating outside opinion but it’s been discouraging to me to see just how many people have learned to hate the “establishment” in our nation.

Intetesting introduction into campuses:
He places a spotlight on uncommon guests “to expose students to possibilities they may never have imagined.” Further, this instructor connects the guest speakers to an assignment. His students hear from libertarians, socialists, and followers of LaRouche. After engaging with these three ideological standpoints through reading materials and the guests’ talks, students write a paper articulating an argument on which position is most convincing, and whether that ideological standpoint stands a chance of being incorporated into American politics.

Everyone keeps leaving out Walter Judd from the “Debs and Larouche” list..

Thursday, December 3rd, 2020

Ice Cube‘s tweet promoting a new music video, and if you are Lucero, running to complete Kamala Harris’s term, you chime in with a big ask…
Messsge me sir, my Senate campaign would like to meet with you ASAP. Much respect!
Since deleted, after responding to skepticism with…

That is also just the LATEST I have been involved in. I was PERSONALLY recruited to politics by L. H. LaRouche, Rev James Bevel, and the legendary Amelia Boynton Robinson in 1993. I then spent 15 yrs organizing in 25 different states. Obama should be envious.

For a snotty response “I don’t care if you helped Michael Jordan win a championship.”. (Say… where were you with Fulani?)

II. In all the election fraud dot connecting
And where Larouche is now referenced as scam artist to be emulatedor… with some irony
(Odd reference point.)

The ” Convicted Trump can run … Eugene Debs and Larouche ran” line gets one more name… Keith Judd. Nice catch! Interesting item here regarding his closest thing to a political triumph:
Judd, who did not qualify for any other primary ballots, contested the ballot count, alleging that ballot workers suppressed the actual total (which he said showed him in the lead) in an effort to cover up an Obama loss.
Another candidate… 2004’s Peace and Freedom Party nomination of Leonard Peltier.

III. Now appearing with the MAGA true-believers. (even though he is dead year and a half on). for a response of brush up on history.

What’s the thing with the British Empire? I saw similar signs in San Francisco about ten years ago, which seemed odd back then.. Have to find your stamp. Like Icke with the lizards, when you see lizard you know it is Icke… When you see the Queen, you know you have Larouche.
Then again, the two get entangled in people’s mind.

One tweet by one member of the ” Biden cheated ” right with a message to fellow protesters, regarding China.
You will have to listen to Bard’s Logic interviewing Obama era Larouchesuperstar Kesha Rogers on the stolen electipn and creation of a one party state (pretty unsuccesdful if that is the case, given how well the Republicans not named Teump did… Unless it is the Democratic Republican duoploly as one party and Trump as another party –) to decide if this China issue can be reconciled.

IV. one recollection of post offices.
a good way to meet chicks.. (oddly not a solo thought.)
one in the neighborhood.
dodged a bullet in college avoiding the lure of singing and math.
in the day.
one old guy hanging around the Student Union
fighting the Ruskies at the airport.
the same with addition of Jane Fonda.
a brief adide to Jeb Bush

Flipping meanings on heavy handed Star Trek Voyager political messages.
Curious commentary: I have to say, of all the rabbit holes to go down, I was not expecting to go down the one about Robert Beltran being a supporter/friend of Lyndon LaRouche.
I am not altogether opposed to the argument on current Star Trek moving into heavy handed politics, excepting that… Er… That was always the case. Leaving aside this debate… How do you drop Beltran as Larouchie into an argument for either political point?

savage with nunchunks over jazz
From what point do you consider the schismic splits of political sects? And is “gothmarxist” showing coalition building or an example of said? A historical review of the Larouchies’ place in schisms. (Probably now better fit for this group to merge and divide.
powerhouse in its own. (Occupy Ohio a big financial boon?)

Can’t argure with that logic.. Hey, get behind Ron Paul and NEVER see any real change made. LaRouche and many of his people served years in Federal Prison. Why? Because they were legit.

As for this comment on Alex Jones films being full of Larouche alumni, Tarpley is long gone.

V. novel explainer for Sidney Powell,

VI. Ximura Consulting LLC is a strategy and consultancy firm with expertise in Community Development.
Consulting with Larouche, it seems.
Many a job applicant.

VII. 23 signatures to the Schiller Institute’s call for …Committee for the Coincidence of Opposites (Coincidentia Oppositorum) … Which will hold to the legacy of Nicholas of Cusa, a man who fmously stood in opposition toward all coincidences.
How this correlates with Harley Schlanger’s enemy — — The Children of Darkness — I dunno. (I will have to watch the video to see if it relates to the Chemey era “Children of Satan”.)
One way of looking at it.

Speaking of circling the squares…
Pretending Trump’s four year posture on Iraq, and Iran, is anything other than what it was.

VIII. Philip Martin extrapulates the import of Larouche on current political dysfunction.
. I talked to him a couple of times in the ’80s, and he never broke character. He knew a lot and could read a room. There was nothing coherent about his political philosophy–swinging wildly from far-left to far-right positions from moment to moment–but he understood there were people out there desperate to have the confusion of the world explained away.
The problem is the world can’t be explained. And the more we know, the less we are able to believe.

Hey. An anti-Trump Larouchie!

IX. Diane Sare’s Senate campaign plucking up a lefty libertarian cause. We note Trump floated a Snowden pardon, and we note that he appears far down any list.