For the love of gawd, Stand Behind your “exploration” of “possibilities”/”probabilities” of Military Coups against Obama, newsmax.Wednesday, September 30th, 2009
I don’t understand. Yesterday newsmax, a central publication for the “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy” for Scaife and Christopher Ruddy, published an article which advocated a military coup against President Barack Obama. With a few weasel words so as not to be actually calling for a military coup against President Barack Obama. They have removed it. I have to find the thing in its entirety here (with the “Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy” — such as that is– of David Brocks’s “Media Matters” — some shilling thrown in at some point by George Soros.) Also available in non pdf version here. The places that would post it with some approval, free republic for instance, deleted if from their page.
I don’t understand what leads to newsmaxs’s dismissal. Yesterday, newsmax felt it proper to publish. Today they don’t. Surely they realized yesterday that this was controversial yest? Surely they knew yesterday that it would be picked up by a lot and be cited as signs of extremism yesterday? Do they assume nobody outside their small sphere is reading them, or apt to read them?
A spokeswoman for Newsmax sent a statement to TPM admitting that the magazine removed the column after several reader complaints:
In a blog posting to Newsmax John Perry wrote about a coup scenario involving the U.S. military. He clearly stated that he was not advocating such a scenario but simply describing one. Har de har har.
After several reader complaints, Newsmax wanted to insure that this article was not misinterpreted. It was removed after a short period after being posted.
Newsmax strongly believes in the principles of Constitutional government and would never advocate or insinuate any suggestion of an activity that would undermine our democracy or democratic institutions.
… Except that they kind of just did. One word that might have been put in advisedly: “purposefully”. Newsmax should get to know its word parsing, as much as John L Perry knew his parsing in not actually advocating this, but wink wink.
Mr. Perry served as a political appointee in the Carter administration in HUD and FEMA. He has no official relationship with Newsmax other than as an unpaid blogger.
No editorial oversight? Or do they just trust the people they give the keys to to not cross their particular line of inflamatory innuendo and “investigative” hogwash?
The proponents of the “Find the balance from the Left so we can be up striaht in attacking this target on the right”, the blog “hotair” and The National Review corner, point to Gore Vidal’s rambling doddering midly entertaining rehashing of paranoia he’s evoked for the past decade. I don’t see it. (Though, give me a second and a mission and I’ll drudge up some comments from somewhere calling on soldiers that they’re duty bound to the Constitution before the Commander-in-Chief. Published by anyone of note, I can’t say as of yet.) You will note that Gore Vidal does not seem to think this Coup is a good idea. But, roll through the comments there.
Adam Russell: I think a dictatorship is more likely from those who want to end the Obama presidency than from Obama. They are gearing up for something.
I think Adam Russell read the newsmax article yesterday.
The one thing I will give “John L Perry”:
Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.
I think Gore Vidal would, at various moments in conversation, argue that has happened. When? Vidal might just join your Glenn Becks of the world and start some balls rolling at the Progressive Era. Then pull the thing apart at the dawn of the Cold War.
Anyway, roll throw free republic:
This has been on my mind for some time now as a real possibility.
For an alleged intellectual (which he ain’t!), Obama has been rather stupid in his treatment of and words about the military folks here (active and former — and there are a lot of them).
Emerging tyrants throughout history have either had to coopt the military or, like Stalin and others, eliminate the upper ranks and replace the officer corps with loyalists.
The bad news is that the service academies have been gradually infested with leftists teaching PC, multi-culturalism, internationalist One World crap for several decades. It’s anyone’s guess how these officers still on active duty will respond.
And if such an event does take place, I suspect there will be a division along racial lines but no way to tell what the numbers would look like.
Like the author, I believe it would be a fairly civil affair but, again, now way to be certain. It COULD get ugly before it is resolved.
I HOPE that oath they took to defend the Constitution — which I also took in 1962 — prevails and we can get back to undoing the damage Obama has done and get on with striving to be the America the Founders envisioned.
I’d write more but am off to rent the remake of “Seven Days in May.” The one with the HAPPY ending.
I want to see Jeffrey Immelt**, along with Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman frog-marched out of the White House if this happens.
Awesome and courageous perspective.
That is the stupid kind of post that gives FR a bad name.
I can see it now in the NYT: “FR urges military to depose Obama”.
(I … um… really can’t see that NYT headline. Call me crazy.)
The unthinkable could become the thinkable. It all depends on Obama. I know a guy like him has ‘delusions of grandeur’ and wants to rule like a heavy handed authoritarian, but I don’t think he really has the guts to try and go all the way to make his dreams come true. I think he is risk averse when push comes to shove. He will have his 4 year term at the maximum and then bow out.
Movie poster of “Seven Days In May”
We need General James Mattoon Scott.
hope: …and the American people will honor them and be by their side!
*American people* excludes all leftist.
 Yep, we figured it out…I love John L. Perry…God Bless him! Great article…His articles gave me great comfort during the Clinton fiasco…
>On second thought, you’re right. Nothing like overthrowing the government of the United States to make a real American proud.
If that Government is Contra-Constitutional, then you’re DAMN RIGHT!
Obama and the communists in charge in DC get completely out of control and States start to refuse to comply.
Texas and maybe Louisiana secede and the marxist in chief issue orders to bring them back.
Senior military commanders instead round up the reds (the “progressive congressional caucus” for starters) and put them on a couple of planes to Cuba.
Provisional military government for 6 months, then new elections for all congressional seats and the WH, incumbents need not apply.
Only tax paying citizens and veterans are enfranchised in the new Republic.
All amendments other than the original bill of rights are repealed.
“Dueling” legalized within Washington DC limits.
That ALONE could solve our problems with our non-representing Representatives… though we’d have to make that Amendment 11 so they couldn’t weasel out of it should they become cliquish again.
That’s enough of that. Actually the free republic posters are obsessed with pointing out that the author is a “Democrat”. This is, I guess, the Zell Miller syndrome?
Back to my basic points: #1: This nation is full of fantasists. AND… #2: I’d just as soon newsmax have left this page on its website — everyone knows they published it, they can’t retrace their steps here, and I fail to understand how they wouldn’t accept this as controversial from the gate. I mean, they’ve published these articles!