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the congressional campaigns of Keesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, and Summer Shields: Let’s Impeach the President for ending a Space mission the public is not paying attention toward.

Friday, February 26th, 2010

Every large-scale movement has disparate forces and peripheral players that are not central to the causes and concerns of most activists. While they deserve some mention, journalists should also maintain a sense of perspective so that readers are properly informed about overall tone and direction of the political forces at work. [...] Tea Party Activists Interlinked with Aryan Nation, John Birchers, Lyndon LaRouche.

As too:
Lately people have been appearing at meetings with posters of Obama as Hitler. Some of these posters came from the followers of Lyndon LaRouche. One can only wonder who gave the cash-strapped LaRouche movement money for the vile signs. The inclusion of the LaRouchists in the rightist anti-Obama coalition underscores a decision to draw more upon the growing far-right fringe groups.
Not really a decision on their part.  The Larouchists I mean.  To dispute, and arguably the thrust is about the same but with a different political viewpoint.
The left has a political interest in defining the broad backlash against expanded government as identical to the worst elements of the Tea Party movement — birthers and Birchers, militias and nativists, racists and conspiracy theorists, acolytes of Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo and Lyndon LaRouche.
You know, Ron Paul did just win the CPAC presidential straw poll.  Also, I can’t categorize “Ron Paul” as wholly negative an element.  Tom Tancredo addressed the Tea Party convention.  What do you want from me?  I guess the only real demand on me is to differentiate a cult from a, quote-in-quote “cult”.  See Bill Maher, look the video up for this transcript — key reference in script:
[slide of Obama with Hitler mustache.].

Onward!

LaRoucheisright SaysFebruary 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm Lyndon Larouche is the only one who knows what to do now. Check the vids on my channel, or go straigt to the LaRouche youth movement news page larouchepacdotcom and read the breaking developements, or listen to one of the webcasts.

All right.  Activitate.  Taking on the Haiti tragedy:

During the question and answer period, LaRouche PAC representative Shannon Chew, intervened into what had otherwise been an attempt by the relevant panelist, Rev. Thomas Streit, to cover over the immense biological disaster befalling disaster stricken Haiti, now. Chew forcefully introduced the reasons why Lyndon LaRouche’s Army Corps of Engineers-style relocation and evacuation of lower-elevation city denizens, is absolutely necessary to avert a potential biological holocaust. This met with initial speechlessness and shock from the crowd, and the panelists, too, who decided to take it as a statement for the record.

They sat there, speechless.  Shocked and stunned.  FANTASTIC!
Mostly they just have some things to write out on the placard dropping from their card-tables to confuse stray passerbyers that this might be a Haiti Aid project, incurring stray donations.  They resemble nothing so much as the Scientologists in exploiting these tragedies, and internalizing stories about action.

As Lyndon LaRouche emphasized on Wednesday, there is currently a concatenation of events which must merge to force the impeachment or resignation under threat of impeachment of President Barack Obama within a matter of the next two or three weeks if civilization is to have any chance of surviving. LaRouche’s own call for Obama’s impeachment is the crucial initiative necessary to bring the growing revolt against Obama’s policies to the necessary deliberate conclusion in time.

As LaRouche has said, we need a great U-turn. As long as Obama is still President, nothing will be capable of being done to save this country or civilization.

Yesterday’s so-called Health Summit was a case in point. A new CNN poll shows that at most 25 percent of the US population supports the Obama Senate bill. And yet Obama remains completely committed to ramming this fascist bill through using the so-called reconciliation process in the Senate, despite the fact that to do so violates the fundamental Constitutional principle of the mass strike underway in the U.S. today—the principle that all legislation is only legitimate if it receives the consent of the governed.

Suppose it’s true.  Suppose the president passes through the Congress a policy that is the most hated and reviled policy in the history of Human Civilization, against a backdrop of protests that represent the fervant desires of 80 percent of the public.  Unpopularity and Unpopular Policies is not grounds for Impeachment, lest we end up jettisoning every single president in American history.  It is a stringing attachment to a fringe and incoherent political position.

Suppose, also, that we follow through with Impeachment for the following reason.

Rep. Pete Olson (R-TX) vowed earlier this week to fight for Constellation in Congress as the FY11 budget works its way through the House. “Congress is going to challenge this plan,” the Houston Chronicle quotes Olson as saying at a meeting Wednesday. However, that’s mild compared to what one potential Democratic challenger says should be done. “If you want to save NASA, call for the impeachment of Obama,” said Kesha Rogers, a candidate in the Democratic primary in the 22nd district, which Olson now represents. Rogers is linked to Lyndon LaRouche, who made a similar call for the president’s impeachment because of his NASA policy earlier this month.

Suppose the Republicans in Congress decide that they will now, at this date, make their focal electoral and political strategy the Impeachment of President Barack Obama based on Obama’s short-changing  the NASA budget and cutting a mission…

… as the principle item of Impeachment — Cutting the NASA budget…

Do you have any idea what would happen?  Mitch McConnell goes on the Sunday talk shows and hammers home the NASA related Impeachment plans.  Every Republican Congressional candidates puts this at the very top of their proposal lists.  Do you know what the result would be?
Basically, the Democrats — right now poised to lose a boatful of seats in the November mid-term election, would win.  Every seat, basically.  And I mean that.

The situation is on a very short political fuse. Many will get caught up in the predicates and balk at the necessary action. (Indeed.)  Our job is to kick against the pricks of pragmatism and provide the necessary leadership. Impeach Obama now!

The question for this story.

thatone says: February 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Why even give serious journalistic coverage to these loons? Followers of Lyndon Larouche? Really?!?! These Hitler comparisons are so offensive I don’t even know where to start. What in anything Obama has ever done suggests he is going to gas millions of men, women, and children to create a master race? Before you sign a petition like that, do some research. Is anyone paying attention to facts anymore? Stop getting sound bites from entertainers pretending to be newscasters.

Which tends to dove-tail into this perenial commentary.

Trilateral Commission wrote @ February 19th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Heavens, for all these years I thought Lyndon LaRouche had become wormfood over two decades ago. He’s not endorsing candidates (Democrats no less?!) from beyond the grave now is he?
That is pretty much the case.  AND
I keep hearing about all the outrage over shutting down of constellation and how this is President Obama’s waterloo but both the numbers of comments and the number of negative comments to me shows a general public not even in tune or aware of the controversy. Tiger Woods articles get more attention then a NASA “back to the moon” one.
The recent teaparty conventions and the republican one just held did not even show a NASA/shuttle/constellation poster at all that I saw. As far as everything i could find about them online.
Once again I am baffled by those posters here talking about the outrage over the death of constellation. The only “outrage” seems to be from representatives and senators of 4-6 states with vested interests in their state’s job picture and their articles in newspapers do not even get any comments.

But I expect that if this page and this article had a comments section, it would attract a call for Obama’s Impeachment and call for Larouche’s phony “4 Power Alliance”.

Hey!  Here’s a stray Webster Tarpley mention.  Russia Today interviews him on some exciting new conspiracy theories.  Of course:
I doubt it, he has already been discredited because he was in the LaRouche Movement. LaRouche is a shady individual. He can speak the truth he can be screamed down by the mainstream and left-wing press. He is saying nothing new here, the military-industrial will run the entire world into the ground. Better to fight it than live on your knees waiting for the big Mushroom cloud this idiot network wants.
I bring up Webster Tarpley to get back over to some reaction to the Larouche slate of candidates, this blog deigns to accumulate supposed “Birther” candidates.  They bring up the candidacy of one Rachel Brown.  I do not believe it is fair to say she is a birther.  I haven’t seen any birther comment coming out of the quotation marks ascribed to her leader in Leesburg.
Webster Tarpley has entertained the idea, though, for I gather fun and profit.  Interviewed Orly Taitz.  Sheesh — for I know Orly Taitz has an Internet Broadcast and has interviewed him.
But the thing is… these terms are getting thrown out with no meaning attached to them.  “Birther” has become a catch-all term.  So, this guy — in a ghost comment from 2004 pulled to some echo blog post in 2010, is now a Birther.
Or sell it hereI am so glad i was born in England, the rulers of the world!\

You know, now that I think about it… sparred from this comment:

On no Mr. T in DC, you’re wrong. They were out there trying to convince the public Pres. Obama is the one true descendant of Hitler. Notice the physical similarities? LOL!

… I’m tempted to ask how far that would get in a congressional campaign, but I guess that is the purpose and test of the congressional campaigns of Rachel Brown, Keesha Rogers, and Summer Shields.  That and to give these people something to do or other.    (NO!  Here’s your “Summer Shields for Congress” Campaign staff at work!)

Or to get a sentence or two into stories like this, and compete against this:

How could you go wrong voting for a guy whose qualifications include experience designing killer robots?
Gets them exposure, don’t it?

Her website says she wants to impeach Obama for ending the NASA moon program?! That’s the meme?
Comment by David Stephenson

The meme is “dining room table.”

In any event, LaRouchies don’t really care about the noble adventure of space exploration. They just want the damned Helium-3 from the moon. They’re afraid the Chinese will get it first.

… Not true.  They want a four party alliance to get the Helim-3.

How Marvel Comics will change the Tea Party scene

Friday, February 12th, 2010

It’s kind of funny.  I see that the “Captain America comic book infuriates Tea Partiers” story has reverberated a bit more even since I myself posted a blog entry about it.  I don’t think there is much of a story here — I gather some of the hub ub comes from the mistaken notion that children actually read comic books.  (In the mid 1980s, DC Comics ran an ad campaign awkwardly grabbing for respectability with “Comics Aren’t Just for Kids Anymore”.  And so that came to be true, and so the comic book industry just kept on the atrophizing that had began back in the mid-1950s.)

This might also partially explain a certain lack of context that appears in the news articles on this story.  The last time “Captain America” received some media attention / controversy (indeed, the last time any comic book did) and scorn from right wing blog-sites, Captain America was deciding not to go along with an item in a fictionalized version of the Patriot Act.  To put this another way, why is it that — with yahoo having this “Captain America” story on its front page this morning, I can go over to google blog and type in “Ed Brubaker” — the writer of this story — and see that my blog post is the second item concerning this story, and the third over-all.  These things don’t write themselves!  I submit to you that if we’re going to get all upset with politics propping up into superhero comic books, well — I expect Bernie Goldberg to slide someone out of the next edition of “101 People Who Are Screwing Up America” and insert Ed Brubaker’s name.

I will state for the record that when I really particularly cared about the work of Ed Brubaker, his comic books looked like this – a poor man’s Chester Brown, I suppose.  In 1999, I had to slant my head a bit upon reading that Ed Brubaker had been hired to write for Batman.  An interesting career move, but the result is apparently that a move to mainstream superhero comic books has his work getting more political in nature. 

Hey!  Is Revenire reading this?

In future editions, Marvel Comics is going to remove the “Tea Party” referencing signs.  I must say, though, that the changes Marvel Comics is apparently going to make probably will upset the “Tea Party” movement a bit more.

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Then there’s this other piece of patent dishonesty.

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Here, there, and everywhere. Seattle, Illinois, and Uranus

Sunday, February 7th, 2010

From comments section of a page I link below.
Isn’t LaRouche dead yet? — Posted by You Look Like I Need A Drink!
And yet.  Here I am again.  Indefatiguable.  Looking at the Pechenuks, the Howie Gs.  Sorting through the margin.  Searching for meaning where there just might be no meaning.

Item the First.  Some chaos in Illinois.  The Democratic Gubernatorial candidate finds himself with an unwelcome lieutenant gubernatorial candidate.

This, I think, is a serious flaw in the Illinois electoral system.  Fluke and unwelcome nominations happen all the time in these United States — i’s just that they’re disregarded relatively easily, even if they screw up one or the other party’s plans.  I can point to two examples in 2008 of state wide nominations for the US Senate.  Perennial hobby candidate Bob Kelleher won the Republican Senate nomination in Montana, meaning the fifteenth time was the charm after a bi-annual placing on the ballot as Democrat and Green.  To believe his selection was not a fluke is to believe Montana Republicans cottoned to his platform of socialized health care, a European parliamentary system, and banning Abortion.  In reality, his nomination was basically about the same as the 1986 Illinois Democratic nominations of two nutcase Larouchies for State Treasurer and Lieutenant Governor — the two state legislators vying for the nomination (and popping up on the NRSC website) had low name recognition, and to the extent that they were known had high disapprovals within a low impact election — Kelleher, meanwhile, had developed an unconcious name familiarity from his frequent appearance on the ballot (the “Smooth names” of 1986′s Illinois duo).  The Republicans weren’t investing anything into anyone’s win, and Kelleher never made an appearance on the NRSC website.
Meanwhile, in South Carolina a man who just attached himself to the letter “D” and was keen on Ron Paul was nominated the Democrats’ candidate for the US Senate.  This race was somewhat interesting to note, because he showed up in the polls within 8 and 9 points — he of a $300 warchest against Lindsey Graham‘s entrenched millions.  He ended with a fairly predictable 15 percent margin, and I am one to believe no amount of money would have changed that result.

Meanwhile, Illinois has set up a system where a man who ekes through in a crowded field off has to run with the legitimate pol.  Perhaps this is divine retribution due to the corrupt nature of said “legitimate pol”s — the indicted  George Ryan, the indicted Governor Rod Blagojevich.

So, the reprise of 1986.

Former U.S. Sen. Adlai Stevenson — who formed a third party to run for governor in 1986 rather than share the same ticket as two disciples of Lyndon H. LaRouche — said Gov. Quinn faces the same political reality in dealing with running mate Scott Lee Cohen.

“It would be very difficult for Pat Quinn, in good conscience, to run for governor with this fellow tied to him as if they’re joined at the hip,” Stevenson told the Sun-Times today.

“One answer is to do what I did, namely to resign the nomination and run as an independent with a different lieutenant governor candidate,” he said. “Of course, they can try to talk [Cohen] out of it, but I’m skeptical as to whether that would work.”

Stevenson, who won the Democratic gubernatorial primary in 1986, formed the Solidarity Party rather than run with a LaRouche-backed lieutenant governor candidate, Mark Fairchild.

Stevenson wound up losing the general election to Republican Gov. James Thompson, who got 1.65 million votes to the 1.25 million that went to Stevenson and his Solidarity Party candidacy. Another 208,830 votes were cast for the Democratic governor’s slot that Stevenson vacated.

Of course, Adlai Stevenson III went on to lose that race.  (And really — isn’t there something about considering here “Adlai Stevenson III” somehow show the problem and indictment of how large numbers of someones might roll past the establishment picks and settle for the protest candidate they’ve never heard of?)  But, I guess Stevenson lost with integrity instead of losing with a cult.

Let’s now turn to Gerald Pechenuk’s alternative universe of events — and I would like to know on what planet does he spend his days?

FYI, Adlai Stevenson was threatened by the late Senator Paul Simon among others, with being called a neo-Nazi if he stuck on the ticket with LaRouche. That statment can be verified by looking at an interview Adlai did with a Burlington, Vermont paper after his sanctimonious fall.
FYI, If Adlai had not succumbed to the threats, he most likely would have become Governor and then gone on to secure the Democratic Presidential nomination and ACTUALLY BECOME PRESIDENT!!!
Now, what this means is that Mark Fairchild, LaRouche Democrat, would have become Lieut. Gov, which means that Adlai Stevenson would have had the benefit of the knowledge and wisdom of Lyndon LaRouche, the world’s foremost American System physical economist, and the author today of the new 4 Power Alliance of India, China, Russia, and the US, a budding alliance to rebuild the collapsed world economy with a new credit system to replace the dead, bankrupt Anglo-Dutch globalization system which has died and whose PRIVATE GAMBLING DEBTS are presently being bailed out with TRILLIONS of dollars of PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS ILLEGALLY!!!Conclusion, We could have avoided the last 20 plus years leading to economic disaster, had LaRouche been brought onto the scene back in the 1980’s, which was what the results of the Illinois Primary and Many Others that year should have resulted in……….
So, listen to LaRouche NOW, and quit listening to bankrupt idiots…. Gerald Pechenuk, LaRouche PAC

Just think.  One departure was missed in parallel universes of how Larouche might have been brought to power, but for the exacting influence of Paul Simon and his British legions!  (But.  Wait.  Didn’t he have oh so much influence in the Clinton administration?)  OR… To rebut on the main thrust of his suggestion, turn to the Stevenson comment story.

Item the Second.

The Hispanic population is anti-white, with La Raza, LOULAC and other anti-white organizations with millions of members. White people are finally catching on.
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Lyndon LaRouche yesterday called for the impeachment of Barack Obama. LaRouche has been calling since July 2007 for placing the Federal Reserve System under bankruptcy protection and re-organization, converting it to the Third American National Bank and for issuing credit (greenbacks) for reconstructing the economy according to Hamiltonian principles (the American System of political economy). LaRouche often speaks favorably of the Clintons. He is anti-Hispanic and Hispanophobic. His two principle websites are http://www.larouchepac.com/ and http://www.larouchepub.com/.

I may as well mention there that I was going to pull out David Duke’s two Republican nominations in Louisiana in the early 1990s as an example for Item the First, but upon consideration, I have to conclude that sadly those weren’t really “flukes”.  The electorate that selected Duke knew roughly what they were doing.

Meanwhile, the Tea Party Convention started with this throw-back to the days of Jim Crow.

Item the Third.  Digging through the comments relating to Henry Gasparian , the 70+ year old who slapped some Larouche members upset at their Hitler signs…

… I’m mostly unimpressed.  But it’s worth pointing at for Pechenuk, who seems to think Larouche is making strides with the youth (You might actually have to read some of Mr. Larouche and actually think, for a change, and then SEE what world leaders, including people in the US, SEE in Larouche, and SEE what the young people SEE in LaRouche, because your old SORE ASS smart aleck bullshit don’t count for a nickel, any more…..), the comments and poll at the Stranger.  Beyond that generic mention, I throw out this comment.

The Ladouche clan is just another multi level marketing scheme that uses very unintelligent young people who are willing to enrich old Lyndon the liar for free,

Ironic that Lyndon has been a commie, a right winger, a left winger, and everything else in his byzantine career. He is the ultimate political opportunist. Anything for a shock. [...]

Basically, but not entirely.  I’ve seen that sentiment expressed in that way, have posted it before.  There’s slightly more, of course — wade through the anti-semitism ( Hey!  Isn’t Jeffry Steinberg Jewish?”) — and I’d be remiss if I didn’t go ahead and link to  Dennis King linking to “earnest one” on his brother’s — Jonathan Tennenbaum – culpability in covering up on the death of Jeremiah Duggan.

Down a ways, I see the more partisan hackery and shallow mention of “inconvenient truth to the ‘Leftists’!  Larouche is a DEM!”  Bleh.  I suppose I should mention I sliced off the last sentence of the “marketing scam” comment to evade the stink bomb throwing.
[(Good luck to these people.  They're wasting their time.]
It appears from this LPAC release that the Larouche org is poised to make hay, for internal consumption, a rallying arouallying with the Republican Party to defeat “Obama Corruption”…. see the final paragraph, which quotes the RNC.

Item the Fourth.  The Seattle Times article comments include a couple of youtube videos — one of the SNL skit and the other a 1980 anti-environmentalist ad.    LINKS here  and here.  I high-light a few interesting and bemusing comments.  And you can play along at home with the game “Larouche Zombie, actively anti-Larouche, or amused passively anti-Larouche?)

plasticman1973  LOL, it’s funny and it sounds outrageous for those who don’t know the facts. I like the queen preparing the heroine though. Kissinger a homo? lol.

azezel2311  He does like to ramble. Scary thing is we seem to be on the same mindset. Minus the british empire. The brits could actually drive positive change if they wanted to. You just have to give them something new to go after. Something that they would have to build others up for in order to stand on them and get there…. Have we found that planet that is half gold and half diamond yet?

kappy0405 yup – kissinger and david rockefeller are just a few of the people who speak OPENLY about pop reduction. Leave it to SNL to ignore facts and cater to the Fox News/CNN mindset. :rolleyes:
Oh well, people ARE finally are waking up. ;)
(… And it only took 24 years…)

kanalje  this is amazing in a weird way. It’s like they are doing his bidding with this parody. It is not unlike the parody style of larouchies.
unityrover  Come for the Larouche, stay for the DANZA!!!

Trapster99 Well, I believed in all the lies said about Larouch, until I did a little research and found this great man’s mind.
He is a modern day Ben Franklin.
Want to solve most of America’s problems, right now?
Build 100 brand new, state of the art, high temprature Pebble Bed nuclear reactors (2 in each state).
That will employ 2 million people directly and indirectly. It will solve a host of environmental problems and it will make energy cheep across the land.
3 Mi Island was sabotaged.

terpis Hard to figure why a slick ad like that didn’t do the trick.

ITEM THE FIFTH.  Call me crazy, but I tend to think Obama will likely win a second term.  If you’re wondering about the qualifiers, it’s because I’m not setting such a prediction in stone.  Also his party will suffer significant losses in the mid-term elections.  That is the norm, the electorate that voted in the candidate falls back as somehow the magic pixie dust doesn’t alleviate all that ails them, and the electorate that voted against them steps forward and entrenches themselves.  There are things the in-party can do to shrink their losses, and things they can do to increase their losses — the Democrats appear to have gone the latter route.  I could go on and explain some things about the purely politikal plusses and minuses of Republican positioning, but this is losing focus.

Now, I’m reading through this sort of predictable and cyclical mess from LPAC and associates to… what? End the Obama Presidency somehow or other?  A few asides tossed in, and I thought I saw a floating of the “British may axe him” thing.

I caught ol Rush Limbaugh muttering about Hillary Clinton shifting up a run against this oh-so-wholly broken Obama Administration.  It’s an item mostly pulled out his arsh, but it’s a meme that I  see floated about every so often.   Being make-believe Clintonistas, I expect to see LPAC releases to that effect sooner or later, based on supposed insider information.

But it also occurs to me, recalling the 2008 nominating fight, fully behind Clinton was the Larouche organization.  The nominating battle fell to this stasis where every single state contest result was easily forecasted right through the end.  And it was there that LPAC commented on the results of Oregon and Wast Virginia, incongruently (go down the batch of Larouche PUMA material in the comments section here).

Despite the desperate assertions and wishful thinking of the pundits, as well as of the Obama campaign, that the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination is all but over, voters in both Kentucky and Oregon turned out to vote in large numbers on May 20, delivering another landslide victory for Hillary Clinton in Kentucky. In Oregon, although Barack Obama won (as expected), he did so with a far narrower gap between himself and Mrs. Clinton than had been projected.

Steam-rolling ahead, I guess, somewhere beyond Hillary’s talking points.  This made no sense — the totals were roughly what was expected.
This wraps back around to the 2010 mid-term elections, which Larouche Inc is gearing up with as part of a “mass strike”, because their post-election release won’t differ much whether the Democrats lose 2 Senate Seats and 2 House Seats, or lose 10 Senate Seats and 50 House seats.

 Incidentally, as I see Larouche drop a pile on Obama’s NASA mission plans — I guess in concert with the election campaign of Keesha Rogers– I note that Buzz Aldrin has his back.

Also, they’re scouting out for Gold Bugs here.

weekly dose of ladouche

Friday, January 29th, 2010

Dennis King, in his postings on the developments in the inquest into Jeremiah Duggan’s death, criticizes the nature of google’s news aggregator, largely spelled out here, but also at the top of his update page is this.

Jan. 29: A LaRouche press release now ranks on Google News as the number one news source re the U.K. Attorney General’s Duggan inquest decision. The AG’s “fiat” for a new inquest is an important news story being covered by numerous newspapers and other media outlets in Britain. Responsible newspapers with substantial circulations. But what comes first on Google News as of 10:30 PM, Jan. 28–if you type in “Jeremiah Duggan”–is a scurrilous rant signed by LaRouche.

Other news sources aggregated by google…
The John Birch Society.  As well their magazine “New American”.
I’m a bit hazy on some of the other “news” sources of similar questionable repute that google aggregates. 
Then there are any number of opinionated bloggers, and I would say any number of them don’t really fit the category “news”.  (For instance, to his credit the dailykos blogger asked for his site’s removal.)  I could go either way with most of them, they may be worth a read for different perspectives on this or that news topic, but surely they can be aggregated by something else.

I guess if EIR had the blessing of Morton Downey, Jr in the 1980s, it gets to be thrown into google news.  As for the piece on Duggan, I could swear I’ve read that LPAC / EIR piece on the Jeremiah Duggan case several times before.  It’s all a head scratcher.
Is not my appearance twice on the BBC broadcasts in the matter of Prime Minister Tony Blair’s lying pretext for launching war against Iraq, as this fact of the matter was emphasized by Dr. Kelly, the primary area of fact bearing on Erica Duggan’s launching what has been a largely fraudulent campaign against me, launched by important associates of Blair in the setting of the death of Dr. Kelly, of the highest relevance in the behavior of certain British circles in the strange role of Erica Duggan?
I can answer that for you.  No.
But at least the Herschel Krustofsky branch of sock puppets have been kept at bay at wikipedia.

As for actual news items, Dennis King seems to have pulled the bulk of the UK’s offerings.  The BBCUnited Kingdom Press Agency.  Their attorneys at Leigh Day.

Ask the deployed members at card table shrines on about Duggan, and they’ll respond round about like this.  Meanwhile, the EIR item will shortly be dumped onto that weird sort of weblog — this sort, for perhaps further commenting by Howie G.

Things I’ve been wondering about Howie G.  About a third of the posts at his sites are paid sponsor posts.  Buy this.  Curiously enough, this doesn’t have the “Visit Sponsors’ Site” button, but it’s evidentally a paid message, as per the disclosure:
The compensation received may influence the advertising content, topics or posts made in this blog. That content, advertising space or post may not always be identified as paid or sponsored content.
Well, I’m sure Howie G is raking in big bucks with this.  But maybe there just are no better ways of making of a living — tough economy and all that — this way is falling a bit a way.

I remember giving two Larouche people $10 at a Chicago airport for some subscription, I never got a thing, lol, this is my way of getting back at the Larouche crowd, by posting this tidbit here.
investur – January 25th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
I agree, when I had asked a Larouche youtuber he gave me his Hawaii phone number and said he’d only communicate that way, no emails, no text messages online–so I dumped him.
splintercell99 – January 25th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
yeah those guys mean well, but they wont tolerate people not following their ideas all the way down the line. If you dont agree with them you are automatically against freedom/life/ etc

But we just need enough to get by to the end here.

LaRouche continued: “You have got to understand emotionally, as well as intellectually acknowledging things, that you are talking about the extinction of civilization as we have known it. And this is coming up now.” [...]

Hold on!  Now I see why google news aggregates this.

As far as I could tell, LPAC’s site was the only one reporting this story. It will be interesting to see if any other significant sources report it.
They get to news sources… not reported elsewhere.  Like how it’s been decided by a cabal out in London for everyone to destroy themselves.
Have you ever asked yourself, why are eyeglasses so expensive?
… Are you interested in Long Distance Savings?  And we can get you a real good deal on this car!
Who will Obama want to fire, or even murder, as his Seneca. After all, if Obama is Nero, someone is a Seneca. Even Hitler had his Rudolf Hess. Perhaps, Hillary Clinton will be axed as someone reminding Obama of reality too much. Or perhaps Former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker, with his half-baked no good proposal to regulate the banks, has outlived his usefulness to Obama. Harlem dudes know the score, Obama is about to lash out.
 
Barack Obama is staring to remind me of a combination of William Howard Taft, Mauno Koivisto, and Charles the Bald.  His administration is heading into exactly their courses.
tap tap tap…

A silly thing about keeping up reguarly on a blog is that I find myself with this mental list of names and a curious question of “How will I tackle a blog post at their death?”  It’s a weird distortion of thinking about this hobby.
Howard Zinn was on that list.  He is that guy — that caricature everyone’s talking about when they refer to the left wing academic activist “Blame America First” figure.  And somebody has to be.
Zinn, by the nature of his fame, lends himself pecularly to a wading of blog posts in a blog aggregator and by and large by-passing the obituaries in major news sources, because  he is a man who registers for basically political activists on the left or right, and not in a vast mainstream center.  The most interesting thing is to read the caveats toward some otherwise complimentary items from detractors — “Sure, he’s a pinko Marxist Revolutionary… BUT –”.  It is by way of acknowledging that outside the current wash of his death, the only times they’d be referencing Zinn is a sort of pejorative short-hand of marginilia, hyphenated with “Chomsky”*.

Or perhaps
Although one suspects that within another generation or two he’ll be as curious and obscure a figure as Lyndon LaRouche or Pat Buchanan: once interesting to a few, but utterly irrelevant to the future.

I reference Howard Zinn here by way of bringing myslelf back to Lyndon Larouche.  When he dies, and one looks into blog aggregators, there won’t be any relatively positive pieces from anyone who’s referenced him as a pejorative slight, caveats or otherwise.   The small number that there will be will read like this.  Or maybe this.
I see little reason not to get this out of the way, and post my quick salvo upon Lyndon Larouche’s death.
He accomplished astouding feats, in the same way a man who dediccated his life to the creation of elaborate and intricate castle sculptures out of his own feces might.  I stand at the sighting of these sculptures, a foot or two steps back to avoid the worst of the pugnant ordor, and while I admit to gaping a bit in wonder, mostly I am just scratching my head and asking “What the Hell was the point of that?”

One last note, this is worth a look – this collection of essays on hnn’s website.

Michael Ledeen Responds to Liberal Fascism Michael Ledeen

Matthew Feldman and Chip Berlet reference the Larouchies’ current campaign, sticking Hitler mustaches on politicians’ faces.  Feldman includes that image.  I note that the other image used in this set of articles is that in the Roger Griffen piece with of the tween (they’re teenagers now, right?) neo-nazi pop sensation Prussian Blue.  There’s… something there.

ready to take on Pelosi, Frank, and the guy who represents the Houston district NASA is headquartered

Sunday, January 17th, 2010

Three candidates for the Congress coming out of the Lyndon Larouche Youth Movement.  And I guess we have the question, What would the org do without youtube?  Interesting feedback, seemingly all coming from within Basement Team headquarters.

thbyrnes (2 days ago)  Rachael is attractive, but she is way too stiff at this point.
A rule in Politics:  Everybody is an Elitist except when they are Populist, and vice versa.
Idiots vote (literally, I live in the 4th Dist), she needs to be more likable at their level… they’re never going to understand anything beyond a sound-bite. That is how bail-out Barney got the job, he gets that.
And one word of advice.
Loose the talk about treason and about higher moral issues (at least broad audiences)… stick with the bail-out Barney shtick and hammer the economy and make LaRouche’s ideas her own… (not his) that’s her ticket.
Don’t mention Larouche?  What’s the point of a Larouche ticket unless you keep repeating Larouche’s name over and over again, such as the comments section with this guy.

larouche
larouche …
larouche
larouche
larouche
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Reid is scum scum
Comment by VoIPpoetry — January 16, 2010 @ 12:13 am

Instant credibility!
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MTL911Truth (2 days ago)
It’s great to see LaRouche candidates running for Congress but LaRouche himself should be running for Congress as well. He isn’t going to be President now, and what a great legislator he would make. He would undoubtedly be the greatest mind on the Hill. Please Mr. LaRouche, run for Congress! We need your ideas in there.
Yes.  Represent the various generations.  Three twenty-something year olds to lower the median age, and just to off-set it back to its current marker as Oldest Congress, mr. 8 time presidential candidate.
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McWalker25 (2 days ago) Yay, Humanity and LaRouche FTW!!
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Regarding Mr. “If I chant his name several times”,
 
@VoIPpoetry, I can’t make heads or tails of where you are coming from. Are you for LaRouche? Are you against him? If so, why or why not?
Clearly, you think Harry Reid is “scum”, but, again, why do you think so?
Comment by classic14rider — January 16, 2010 @ 12:13 am

Pro LaRouche.

Pro LaRouche.
Harry Reid was the dumbest lawyer in his entire class.
Harry Reid is corrupt and has been caught in dirty land deals with his friends.
Harry Reid slipped in an “in Perpetuity” cluase on page 1020 of the Health care bill.
This means congress can NEVER overrule it.
This is far worse than Hilter or the NAZIs.
2/3 of people oppose this crooked healthcare just like they did the bailouts and NAFTA.
This is NOT representation by politicians anymore.
Comment by VoIPpoetry — January 16, 2010 @ 12:13 am

Worse than the …
Worse than the Nazis? Get a life.
Comment by JBeatty17 — January 16, 2010 @ 12:13 am

Do you have …
Do you have anything of substance to say?
Not even Hitler had “in perpetuity” clauses on his useless eaters program.
You really are out to lunch. Maybe you outta check out some football or something.
Go to LaRouche’s site and read if you are literate. Any objective reader will conclude that Harry Reid is totally corrupt and must be removed prior to the elections.
Comment by VoIPpoetry — January 16, 2010 @ 12:13 am

 I didn’t get very far in watching the press conference.  I saw Harley Schlanger, of the “Larouche Foundation” (???), and my computer sputtered out after a couple of minutes of the great Hope to Defeat Nancy Pelosi.   But I guess the message is always the same:

Conservative protesters achieved their goal of attracting attention to their cause in Conroe Wednesday but drew criticism for their tactic of depicting President Obama as Hitler.
“We’re here to let people know they have a choice between a Hitler or a Roosevelt,” said LaRouche organizer Craig Holtzclaw, referring to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. “We are advocating for a peaceful repudiation of his policies that are bankrupting this country.”

… with that annoying reference to “conservative protesters”.  Just as well, the comments section show everyone skipping past the topic of the Post Office Warrior Team — because there’s not a whole lot worth saying — and heading over to the more significant topic of Sarah Palin.

One odd comment from the Larouche name chanter:
Maybe you outta check out some football or something.
Wait.  Is this guy reading xlcer’s posts at factnet?  The one that referenced the Eagles losing?
Never time for such frivulous bourgeoise pursuits that get in the way of the creating the new Renaissance.  I barely care, but I care just a tad nonetheless.  My prediction a few weeks ago was that the Superbowl would end up the Chargers and the Saints.  For all I know, by the time I post this half of that equation will be scuttled.

If we want to look around for other pieces of Entertainment news for a few minutes of diversion– the “something” in the phrase ”check out some football or something”, I am fascinated by the Late Night Television scuttle between the various late night talk show personalities. It is  hard to take seriously, but has inspired these at-times complacent comics to unload some hilarity. 

Here’s this popular Hitler Internet mememade to use from a Conan O’brien fan.
Now, if you look up “Obama” and “Hitler” on youtube, you will find plenty of variations of the theme. (The Republican Party got into a minor kerfufle when one of them was linked to a sanctioned GOP twitter feed.)  I’m not sure why the Larouche Youth Basement Team hasn’t stuck one up themselves.  Maybe it’d be too easily lost in the shuffle, or maybe we’re now stuck moving forward to the three congressional campaigns.

Are the candidates going to be manning the card-table shrines, and if so will their faces be placed on the signage, this for instance?  Or are we just going to see Pelosi and Frank with a Hitler mustache?

Some more things to consider for in these campaigns.

Congressman Ron Paul today endorsed John Dennis in his Republican bid for United States Congress. Mr. Dennis, a successful entrepreneur and longtime liberty-minded GOP activist, is Some more rtunning to unseat Nancy Pelosi in California’s 8th district.  [...]
Congressman Paul‘s endorsement comes through his Liberty PAC, a Republican leadership PAC committed to supporting Liberty minded candidates across the country.
Said Liberty PAC director Jesse Benton, “John Dennis is a terrific candidate who is going to ask tough questions like: ‘Why is Nancy Pelosi running up crushing budget deficits?’, “Why has she allowed President Obama to expand the war in Afghanistan?’, and, ‘Why has Nancy Pelosi refused to support transparency and accountability at the Federal Reserve.’ The constituents of California’s 8th district deserve answers to these questions. John Dennis will hold her accountable.”

I don’t really think that John Dennis has much of interest in really even a percent watch — when was the last Libertarian Party candidate who did, and this John Dennis campaign strikes me in that same basic pattern.  But, if you are trying to explode a vote total into the twenty percentile, in Nancy Pelosi’s district, there are issues to hammer where he is “so right, he meets the left” — foreign policy, generalized discontent over party politics and all that, damned them Wall Street Bailouts.
Still, it looks from afar that Mr. Dennis has a clear path to the General election — I imagine the seven percent or thereabouts of Republicans in the district grasp toward some of these Libertarian hot-bed issues, and an aura of anti-authoritarianism in there.

Meanwhile, are the Larouchies deployed in Massachusetts right now, manning those card tables?  If not, why aren’t they?  There’s a major special Senate election between two candidates I wouldn’t much want to see in the Senate.  It’s an an embarrassment for the Democrats, even if, the best case scenario for that Donkey Party prevails and Coakey wins by like eight percentage points.  Surely plopping down there can be presented to everyone as a successful interaction of the “Mass Strike” — seen on display when everyone cheered the Great Escorting Out at the Harry Reid Town Hall Meeting.  Or is the fact that it’s MLK Day getting in the way?
Or is this too other-directed at this late date?
I park this link here, expecting myself to return to it later.  (Not as interesting is this page.  I see dominickseid has found himself a new Lair.)

“small time Stalin”

Thursday, January 7th, 2010

A curious thing about the stacking and categorizing of books at… a local prominent bookstore.  There is this huge swarth of books pegged under the category “Culture Wars”.  These books are almost universally useless, affirmative to your tribe I suppose.  Across the aisle, the books get divided into — say — “Conservative”, “Liberal”, “Far Right”, and then there’s “Marxist” and “Left”.  Arguably, your “Culture Wars” can be slotted around these parts, but the management appears to have come to a judgement call not to put the latest Glenn Beck book next to Edmund Burke.  (But, I guess, Horowitz fits the bill?)

And then things get a little fuzzier.  A couple of months ago, I picked up, read a few pages, then put down “The Whole of Their Lives”, a 1965 republishing of a 1948 ex-Communist work.  This time, I picked up one of their two copies and bought it — sold due to the inside first page stamp which identified the book as having been part of the library of the local chapter of the John Birch Society.  I think the publisher imprint — “Americanist Library” — follows the book as published by them, but I’d have to do that quick google search to find out.  (Answer in the affirmative.)

Why is this under “Conservative Studies”?  It is a jeremiad against a “left-wing” creature — the American Communist Party.  I suppose at the mark of the mid point of the last century, American Conservatism was defined as largely a negative force opposed to foreign and domestic Communism, and yet go over to the section marked “Far Right” and very few of these books on fascism, Militia Movement, or the Klan are pro-fascism, militia, or Klan.  Though, to puzzle the category further, sitting there — somewhere alongside a book extrapolating out a Pat Buchanan presidential victory in 1996 forty years to a Dark Fascist Future — why, it’s the 1960 and 1961 editions of the John Birch Society White Book!

Oh.  And in case, you are curious.  Children of Satan.  The book atop card tables four or six years ago, all of your “Children of Satan”s bound into one handy volume for your “Children of Satan” needs.  The cover holds “Suggested donation: #15″.  Leaf through it, and I see that the previous owner went to a few “progressive” sounding things in San Francisco.  Must have been a Right wing nut.

I read a couple paragraphs, where these bookmarks leave me, and I learn that the DLC was formed as a way for the Democratic Party financiers to deal away with the surging “Larouche Wing” of the Democratic Party.  I feel stupider for having read it.  As I do round about here.:
2010 is the year all those who agree with LaRouche must come out publicly and say so, and support the LaRouche Plan. [...i]
Join us on the front lines, and enjoy striking a blow for freedom.

Wait.  The Larouche Party World Superstructure (German cadres Unite!) is now going to get out of the submerged Underground!  Fantastic!  Now that everyone’s been instructed to come out full force, we’ll now have a full reckoning of numbers in support.

A quick check, and the recentish publication of Chaitkin/Tarpley Bush book is no longer available.  Or maybe there is a copy or two over in the Conspiracy section alongside the various David Icke books.  A couple of curious things about this categorizing — for various presidents — the two Bushes are dropped into “Bush Family”.  Though, the two Bushes fare better in that regard than Gerald Ford, who disappears with the Nixon books ending and the Carter books beginning with a slider reading “Nixon — Carter”.

As for the Benjamin Gitlow book.   A few things.  He almost thinks that the Communist Party (USA) was practically solely responsible for the demonization and scape-goating of Herbert Hoover to the Great Depression.  Granted, Hoover’s main fault was residing as president in that particular time-slot, but really he gave his old cohorts too much credit.  Then there is the great crux of the Communist Conspiracy, the final sentence of the final (and hastily written due to rapid changing of events — he set out to write a chapter covering Earl Browder, and then saw him dumped, such that our emerging Communist Dictator changes:

The Eugene Dennis of today may become the saber-rattling Moscow gauleitier acting as the President – dictator of a Communist America tomorrow.

Or, maybe he won’t.  Actually my mind is a bit stuck there.  I reel from Foster to Browder to Gus Hall.  I somehow manage to skip past Eugene Dennis.  Eugene Dennis is the Gerald Ford of the American Communist Party.

Okay, the Gitlow book.  Of interest to me, perhaps the most extreme case of cognitive dissonance in political history — American Communist rank and file reaction to Stalin’s Pact with Hitler.
It must be kept in mind that the Communist Party is organized on a totalitarian basis.  Members are not permitted to voice criticism against the leadership and its policies.  To utter an exclamation against Stalin brought about one’s expulsion from the Party.  The members came together to take orders and carry them out, not to voice an opinion.  Yet, at the meetings in which the Pact was discussed, members were violent in their criticism and heaped abuse upon the Party leaders; member after member pointedly asked the party leaders whether, if the workers did not want to follow Stalin into the camp of Hitler, Stalin wanted them to sacrifice the workers for the Nazis.

Radwanski, one of the editors of the Novy Mir, the Party’s Russian language paper, head of the Polish section of the Party, formerly secretary to Dzerjinsky, the founder of the OGPU, a fanatical Bolshevik, threw up his hands in the Party office and exclaimed: “This, that they have done to us, cannot be worse.”

Markoff, the director of the Party’s school, the Worker’s School, kept quiet, but to a few of his most intimate friends he conveyed his great disillusionment over the signing of the Pact.  Under the constant pressure of Party pleadings, he gave his support to the Pact, and then succumbed to a heart attack.

Henry Gannes, the foreign affairs expert of the Daily Worker, inwardly opposed the Pact, but in the coumns of the Daily Worker became its most outspoken advocate.

A number of members of the staff of the Freiheit, including some of the trade union activists, not only resigned from the Party, but attempted to carry on a campaign among the Party members and sympathizers for a repudiation of the Party and Stalin’s leadership. [...]

All the Jewish leaders of the Party were called together for a secret meeting.  Foster, the Chairman of the Communist party, presented the new line.  Instead of defending himself, he launched into a sharp attack upon the Jews, declaring that they were narrow and chauvinistic in their viewpoints on the Pact.  The Jews in the Party, he charged, because of Hitler’s anti-semitism had allowed that to determine their attitude and had lost sight of the bigger and by far more important considerations involved.  He demanded that the Jews take a stand as communists on the question and not as Jews.  The tension in the meeting held the Jewish leaders glued to their seats.  Many showed the strain of great mental and spiritual agitation — hands clutched the chairs in front of them tightly.  The top leaders of the Party had come to club the Jewish leaders into submission, not to argue the question with them.

The Communists Jewish leaders were torn between two loyalties, loyalty to their people, who were the innocent victims of Nazi anti-semitic bestiality, and loyalty to the cause of communism, upon which they had placed their hopes for the liberation of all mankind, including the Jews.

Foster gave them no time to think.  He pounded away at them with blows that stung.  They knew that to oppose Foster meant to be made a target for vicious attacks and to be driven out in disgrace from the movement that they had given their lives to serve.

When Foster finished, a resolution endorsing the Soviet – Nazi Pact in unequivocal terms was presented for adoption.  Foster insisted upon an immediate vote.  The Communist party does not allow its members the privilege of taking time in making up their minds.  The Communist party leaders who were Jews had listened to Foster.  Now they must vote for the resolution; abstaining from voting for the resolution or voting against it was tantamount to expulsion from the Party.

The few who asked questions or expressed their doubts, during the discussion, became the targets for attacks by the Party leaders, who were unrestrained in their abusive viciousness against them.  They were given to understand that the Jews, more than any other element in the Party, were expected to give the new line their wholehearted and enthusiastic support.  Foster summoned up with the full weight of Stalin, the Soviet Union, the Comintern and the Party in back of his words, and bludgeoned the Jews into complete submission to the resolution.

Perennial Campaigns, Hitler analogies, and Dark Ages.

Tuesday, December 29th, 2009

In doing that round through of Larouche articles at wikipedia, I found that the org has been rather successfully shut out of their propaganda editing offensive ever since the brief flurry of an attempt post Krusty Banishment.  Assuming this call for a spell check cleaning isn’t part of the Sock Puppet tree, and an attempt to crack the editing privileges open — but I assume that’s just paranoid conjecture on my part.

But I came upon this line LaRouche has run for president on eight consecutive occasions, a record for any candidate, and has tied Harold Stassen’s record as a perennial candidate.
Is that right?  He ties with Harold Stassen?  Well then, considering Larouche’s strong aim for Immortality, there is only one thing that needs to be done.  The record is in his grasp.  Larouche NEEDS to run for President, just to blow Harold Stassen into the dust.  Come on, everybody in the Larouche organization.  That means you.  Yes, you, Harley Schlanger*, I’m pointing at YOU.  Lyndon Larouche NEEDS TO Be ON THE BALLOT in 2012.  You don’t want to be the equivalent of this year’s Indianapolis Colts team.  (And otherwise, you’re stuck with a vague rememberance of a Whale-related bumper sticker as a historical legacy.) HISTORY BECKONS!!
* Disclaimer:  Actually I’m pointing at nobody in particular.  That name just randomly came to me.  Disregard it.

Of course, maybe there is no urgency at all here, and Larouche can wait for 2040 to make the record breaking run.  This under the stewardship of the Cryogenic advances of Mister Phil Ossifur.  But at that point, I’d just go ahead and exhume Harold Stassen and commence the stalement.

In the meanwhile, as we await the HISTORIC presidential bid announcement, there are a few other perenial items.

HITLER!!!

“Because Harry Reid has now made himself a duplicate of Adolf Hitler, he’s responsible for every Jew who was killed by Hitler,” LaRouche said. “Harry Reid must take personal responsibility for every Jew killed by Hitler, by allowing this thing to go through. Every Jew who was killed by Hitler, Harry Reid is responsible for now! He must resign immediately in embarrassment, in abject apology to the American people for copying exactly the Hitler policy, which is so infamous. He has made a page for himself in infamy!

Wow.  That’s kicking it up a notch — one inch more explicit and ahistorical.   I guess they disagree with the statement that The Fuher has no place in the Health Care Furor.

And to go back to the whale postings:
sounds fishy to me. larouchies aren’t really known for their sense of humor.
That’s a… sense of humor, right?

As I recall, the original “Nuke the Whales” was from the old Bloom County comic strip. Might have been a parody of the LaRouche campaign.  I think it was expanded from there.

On to the other perennial.
Well, the process has gone on, since last August. It’s undergone various transformations. Now, we’re reaching the point that we’re headed toward a breakdown. There’s a breakdown crisis in process in Europe, there’s a breakdown crisis in the Americas, there’s a breakdown crisis inside the United States. We can not, at this point, assume, that unless we do what I will emphasize we must do, by the middle of January — no later — unless we do that, the United States will go down, and the world will go down, into a prolonged Dark Age. So people who have these ideas about step-by-step, the usual kinematic kind of thing, we’ll do this, and then we’ll do this, and then we’ll do this — no! You won’t do that.

NOT ANOTHER 14th Century Dark Ages!  We were only beginning to recover from the last Dark Age, which occured on October 12.  I don’t know how many more of these Dark Ages the World Economic Infrastructure can take.  These Dark Ages do appear to be shorter bursts than the one always being alluded to with these things — it is curious to note that i took the creative energy of the careers of the Great Renaissance figures to end the Dark Ages.  These Dark Ages apparently are so transitory and flimsy that they’re defeated by a random weekend afternoon cable tv showing of the TMNT movie.
Or a 1999 Jack Van Impe broadcast.  Nobody is all that original in forecasting disasters.

2007 flashback here with this.  And this bearded guy is entreated in 2009.  News is that that the call to “Repeal” the health care bill might be a Republican 2010 Congressional election rallying call — which I suppose might save the organization the headache of finding a new cause to glom onto.   (I’m not sure sliding the British into the coming 12/25 Truth Movement can be judged to get them very far — but I guess I’ll wait to see if Webster Tarpley jumps into that fray shortly.)  Otherwise, we’re stuck celebrating China’s new Train.

In concluding news, the whole “Laroche Industries” mistaken identity fiasco made a year-end best (or worst) list.

That flavorless gum I just chewed on? Worse than Hitler.

Friday, December 18th, 2009

Wait.  Stop me if you’ve heard this one.

Briefed on Monckton’s findings‚ American statesman and physical economist Lyndon Larouche charged‚ “What this 180-page document represents is a policy worse than Hitler‚ which is the policy behind the Copenhagen summit

When last I heard that… was that then?

Whatever.  Last night I heard the Phil Hendrie Show for the first time in a while.  I haven’t bothered listening to the man of late, because when I heard the latest version of his radio show, he was rolling out his character (parodies of various political and societal  foibles) without any callers, and was doing his straight and tedious political commentary.  He’s apparently gone back to his old formula, baiting callers with incedinary comedic fake guests.

… which was “Conservatives of Kern County” head (for a short time in the last administration, had a converstion to “Democrats of Kern County”) Larry Grover.  Who defended the Dachau sign — which made the rounds last month for “Offense of the Moment”, baiting callers “If we pass Obama Care, this is what we’ll see right outside Dick Durbin’s office” — and the obvious baiting comment from Phil Hendrie “Now, do you claim to represent the Tea Party movement as a whole?”  (Enter Conservative callers disclaiming him.)

What we saw here was it lumped it to Larouche – which, I still don’t believe to have been the case — jusst a lone enterprising individual, mucking up the scene .  Organic and understandable enough, lest you witness the latest “outrage of the day” directed to the right wing radio host Laura Ingraham’s recitation of the “First They Came” poem

But you know.  To that link, I do find the bottom banner for “Mustang Man’s” “Enemies of the People” kind of interesting, in its ahistorical charge if you consider the “Enemies of the People” would be the expressed opponents of the Soviet state — or, if you, will: the “good guys” fighting tyranny.  Unless this poster is coming from the point of view of the Soviet State?  It’s all so very confusing.

I don’t know what’s going on with the CEC in Australia – to what extent we just see a dumping on an Australian politician.  I do want to try to work some further explanation or other on “Russia Today” — here, it occurs to me to mention that Igor Panarin ‘s doomsday prophesy received more attention in American media than Larouche in the after-effect of the Economic Fall in 2008.  That must have been due to his general freshness and novelty — he hasn’t been visibly spouting stuff off for 40 striaght years.

Continued link dumping here and here.  Though, the only two real worthwhile articles there are this one and this one.  Oh, and a special endorsement from Salt Lake radio host — whatever his name is , the guy Larouche was talking to when 9/11 happened.

Which finds me over to this one particualar interesting attempt to convert the Ron Paul supporters with “common cause”.  My basic question: is this royal “we” reference an admission of organizational strategy?  It seems to be.  Jay Giallombardo — his job description is to leave comments in Internet message boards and blogs to bring up the name “Larouche”.

Jay Giallombardo:  By the way, we are on the Ron Paul site because he is in a position to abolish the FED which is what we want. [...]

You are right to support Ron Paul, as I do, to abolish the FED; but, not all governments are immoral. There have been a few in American history that did well. Washington – JQ Adams…Lincoln-McKinley… FDR, and JFK, and Reagan, somewhat.

Yeah, that’s going to go over well with the hardcore Randian Mises wing of the Ron Paul crowd.

I am unconvinced by your assertion that not all governments are immoral though: Since man runs them, they are immoral by definition; It’s just a question of varying degrees.
Personally, I believe FDR and JFK’s policies rank pretty high on the immoral.

AND

The USA was formed as a bullwark against tyranny and oppression through economic control. If practiced as intended, like FDR, JFK, and a few others did, American Economics can beat the British oligarchy every time.  AND HERE’S A HOOT AND A HALF.

One more word on FDR…if you read the history from Lincoln to the assassination of McKinley, and then the actions of the President’s that followed…you will see clearly that from Teddie Roosevelt through Hoover…we were under the direct corruption of the British Empire.

After the defeat of the south in the Civil war (that was initiated by the British as a last ditch attempt to destroy the US), the British gave up direct overthrow of our country and went into subterfuge-mode to destroy America through war-monger and corruptions of economic principles.

When Henry Carey continued with Lincoln’s plans for the Inter-continental Railroad, the British were soundly defeated because our Economy shifted from Maritime trade to intercontinental development which they could not undermine so readily undermine.
Although they did so with the Robber-Barrons, JP Morgan and others (that’s another story). And they West remains relatively undeveloped until this day. Lincoln envision a US population of 500,000,000 by 1950 had the West been fully developed.

The America system flourished in the latter part of the 19th century not only in America but in the world, Germany, Russia, China. The British were losing control most everywhere.

They shot Garfield and McKinley. McKinley was a staunch “Lincoln” supporter and kept high tariffs on British goods. With these two great President’s out of the way, in came British stooge, Teddie Roosevelt, followed by a line of Presidents which included Woodrow Wilson, former KKK leader. British destroyed Germany in WWI getting France and Russia to ally against them.
The devastated the Germany economy (Weimar 1923) and gave rise to Hitler.

I would like to ask start picking at this, but I have the wonderment of “Where to Begin?”

One must admire LaRouche’s passion but the man is borderline insane. He’s much like Hamilton and FDR.

They’re seeking out the this Randian brand of Ron Paul supporters after a light bulb flashed when seeing  the shared emnity from Paul Krugman, right?

Touching Base with various entities

Thursday, December 10th, 2009

#1:   The last time we saw “LaRoucheisright”, he had pretty clearly gotten huge dashes of the “Brainwashing” meme.  We see him still about here, partaking in a pretty odd branch of literary criticism.

December 8th, 2009 at 4:50 am If anybody wants to know how to solve this crisis LaRouche has the plan. You know classical tradgedy has no tragic individuals, the tradgedy is always the culture. Many times in history the man for the job was there but people wouldn’t let him solve the problem. I warn you all now that we don’t have forever. If you want to hideout in the mountians that is great, but what of all those who will die. We can still stop this collapse with LaRouche’s program.

Which is interesting, because continue forward and we’ll find someone trying to sell the idea that someone else has the plan.

mysticphoebos  December 8th, 2009 at 5:53 am The Private Fed Reserve and RBA are playing games with you people they must be abolished, look up Alex Jones, a good place to start.

Or is mysticphoebos  the match, Alex Jones the Fuse, and Lyndon Larouche the Bomb?

AND standard goldbug seller…  labartic December 8th, 2009 at 6:56 am A sure bet is to just invest in some precious metals (monex) and have them shipped to your home. Because if the economy crashes, you will at least have tangible wealth, which will have skyrocketed in value.

#2:  The last time we heard from “Carol, Mouse Warrior of GOD”… well, I actually had never encountered “Mouse Warrior of GOD” outside of her name being floated about at factnet’s forum.  Or I had but forgot about her?  (I doubt it… how could I possibly forget a “Mouse Warrior of God”?)  BUT, you can find her work at this sort of militia-ish Christian Right Forum, “Resistnet”, where she sells Larouche here, and gets some buyers.

carol , mouse warrior of GOD on November 27, 2009 at 10:32pm AMEN… HE WAS IN JAIL IN THE 80′S FOR SPEAKING AGAINST THE PLAN !!

Funny.  I thought he was in jail for defrauding the Elderly.
Odd lady, that “Mouse Warrior of GOD”.  Found Jesus… and Larouche?  Such that she prays against Obama (what ever will she do if the cult switches to support?)   I will have to follow the posting career of “Mouse Warrior”, and see where she takes us.  She promises to be the most interesting Larouche promoter since the Leader of the Larouche Cryonics Movement.

I will note … You can buy Glenn Beck’s new book (he puts out a new one every eight months or so) or Sarah Palin’s new book from this here website.

#3:  The last time we heard some vague innuendo about Larouche leading a Republican Party or Conservative Movement was… um… just a sentence back when I brought up Glenn Beck’s and Sarah Palin’s name as two advertisers on a website where some bizarre Christian Right Larouchie feels she can sell her hero?

Apparently this website considers itself acting in the legacy of Robert F Kennedy?

For me the most fascinating aspect of the tea party phenomenon that we have witnessed in 2009 is the degree to which it shows that Lyndon LaRouche has taken over the modern Republican Party.

I have to groan.  This is an intellectually dishonest insult and piece of partisan invective.  Perhaps we need to coin something akin to Godwin’s Law that covers use of Larouche in discourse.  My only  problem in formulating a phrase for such a thing is, I do think that allusions to Larouche are useful in relation to off-message Dooms Day Conspiracy Theory, more so than your Hitlers, even as I want to reign it in when it’s misused — such as with that last link.

Anyway…

Ha! Yeah the photo is pretty funny. Great font too. But what’s up with the orange vests and standing in the middle of traffic? With the LaRouche crowd, there’s always just a little extra dose of crazy in there.

#4:  The last time we heard from the PUMA Movement… well, that depends.  I don’t think I saved the link to an item I saw a while back of a full disclaimer against the Larouche org, by way of referencing some nasty things the man has said in the past (before he was a full throttled supporter of the Hillary Clinton candidacy) against Hillary Clinton.  I did regularly last summer link to odd PUMA  proponents selling the Larouche “FDR” video, and related items.

Now, I cannot claim to really understand “PUMA”, circa 2009 (or, for that matter, from the DNC Convention on).  To the degree that they exist, they have been all over the map, weaving about from anti-Obama conspircy theories popularized at Free Republic (who also reject Larouche) and by Webster Tarpley about the evils of George Soros, over to a left plank criticism of  Obama’s Afghanistan proposal.  Nonetheless

Deb55 12.04.09 at 12:00 pm Good morning All, glad to see blog back..

For anyone here looking into the climate change hoax..very good read from 2007, explaining how this was set up to market, …CHICAGO is the U.S. home (CCX)Chicago Climate Exchange.. of the stock exchange for “climate credits”.

“”The centerpiece of the U.S. emerging market for carbon
emissions trading, is the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), created in 2003″”

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3413carbon_swindle.html

It is not a pretty read..WE have been HAD..and yes.. it is ALL about Money..and we PAY!!!

Zee 12.04.09 at 12:50 pm

Deb, never mind “pretty” read, La Rouche is a nutcase and a predator of college kids into his cult and we don’t need to be reading *anything* by Larouche.

AND:  Deb55 12.04.09 at 1:50 pm
Zee..plead guilty on La Roude..granddaughter doing research..

Zee 12.04.09 at 8:45 pm    #28 Deb!!! All the more reason to inform and protect your granddaughter!

That is exactly whom they target and of course they do it in a smart fashion. The LaRouche method is to adopt the same talking points as whoever is outraged or disengaged that particular year, so he flipflops from bashing everyone from Cheney to Gore. He has no core, just adopts whatever attitude to pick off people from legit concerns!!!
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Item #5: I’m pondering this batch of taglines.

Description: … EXPOSING FASCISTS Work on field of Larouche Movement LPAC TV off the cuff jun help Alex jones fight george soros tepstolog aljosa durnik April 28.2009 int webcast green global worming swine flu epidemic tarp outbreak money nwo Lindon LaRouche obama world crises economic collapse davos conference Russia us remedy Europe answer bankruptcy United States New Dark Age British Empire war empire bailout wall street fascism recession webster tarpley alex david icke Preview Obama Nazi health

Item #6:  The last time we heard from Alan Osler… well, the most notable time we heard from Alan Osler he was making crude comments about a conference in Wiesbedan exploring the nature of the cult.  Well, he left a comment here.  A few things that jump out at me.

I think that a guy that has been a candidate for president 8 times deserves some respect.

Arguably this fits in with this item.

I am pleased though that you are using big words such as perenial, and that you have no noticable spelling mistakes.

Am I supposed to congratulate a Good catch on “Perennial”?  Never mind.

I don’t know how it works in German or British politics, but in America we tend to play by the “Harold Stassen Rule“.  After two or three runs, one loses credibility quickly.     Perhaps the only problem with this rule in relation to the topic at hand is that Stassen was taken seriously at one time — in 1948, he was the favorite to win the Republican nomination (and thus the presidency) before losing to Dewey.  In 1952, he served as a kingmaker for Eisenhower.  Heck!  Even as late as 1964 he served as a useful “Anybody but Goldwater” marker in the Indaiana primary.

Then there’s the two Socialist Candidates of Eugene Debs and Norman Thomas, who are generally thought of as principled enough candidates of conscience for their multitude runs.  They didn’t pick up all that many votes, but compared to Larouche practically won by landslides.  And Eugene Debs’s time in the slammer for his opposition to WWI looks more noble than Larouche’s time in the slammer for defrauding the Elderly.

Downticket, there are always plenty of amusing candidates running about.  Gordon Allen Pross will run for something in Washington State, as he has every even number year since 1998.  In Montana, Bob Kelleher just capped off his political career with a surprise Republican Senate primary victory – spurred, no doubt, because his name was the most vaguely familiar on the ballot (similar dynamics as the the 1986 Illinois chaos.)  For these candidates, it is a hobby — all it takes is maybe a few hundred dollars in some states, and maybe some signature gathering in other states to get on the ballot.  We will wait to see if L-PAC springs for this for their 2010 candidates — Rachel Brown in Massachusetts, somebody or other in Texas, and I gather a few more down the pike.

I like your criticism. I have read this article a thousand times before though.

Well, it’s good to know that I’m not the only certified non member regularly typing “Larouche” into search engines.  Sure, things can get repetitive — as everyone takes a quick gander and finds out that Lyndon Larouche is a “perenial”  candidate who has a felony conviction for defrauding the elderly.  Other repetitive items that keep coming up — a news story about how the Larouche cardtables are nuisances in front of this or that store or post office.  I swear I’ve read that story 11 times already.  Maybe they’re just cutting and pasting it from previous efforts?

The store claims it does not allow anyone on its property to display anything containing “fighting words, obscenities, grisly or gruesome displays, or highly inflammatory slogans likely to provoke disturbance.”
The market chain says it’s concerned that the activists will continue to offend and drive away loyal customers, as it has already received hundreds of complaints from customers who believe Stater endorses the LaRouche views.
The activists have refused to leave Stater’s property when asked and the police say they cannot remove them without a court order, according to the complaint.

Item #7: Some Random items.   Who is Dr. Deagle?  Dr. Deagle is a highly intelligent whistle-blower with info that you need to know about nutrition, extraterrestrails, New World Order, Moon Base, Mars colony, Deep Underground Military Bases, super soldiers, GMO, Illuminati 4th dimensional workings, even modified attack baboons. And he interviews Harley Schlanger.  He knows a thing or two about nutrition and modified attack baboons!

Item #8:   More of the same bullshit you learned in your mother’s basement reading Lyndon LaRouche pamphlets. No where in the Constitution is the Senate tasked with representing the States. In case you missed it, the Constitutional Amendment that

Item #9:  Is this a compliment? the very funniest Democrat agitator out there

Well, this isn’t.  (And by dent of having two items mention him — one more substantially the next link here, it is Larouche Day at Huffington Post.)

Item #10.  Questions posed.

Montreal.  I was handed a pamphlet and listened to some garble about Lyndon LaRouche being some sort of economic saviour. But it left me asking some questions, are they some sort of political movement? or cult-like entity?

You can always google and find out they are a political cult under the order of a perenial presidential candidate and convicted felon!  Then cut and paste it to your blog.  I won’t mind!

Thanksgiving in Cult Land

Sunday, November 29th, 2009

On November 16, 2009, Lyndon Larouche unveiled a big speech — published on the 18th — entitled “Brainwashed”.  The opening long-winded sentence:  
For those among us with any significant experience with commonplace instances of victims of what is called “brainwashing,” there should have been nothing surprising in the fact that certain former associates of a political association, who had spent as much as decades of their life briefly either in or long-since departed from of that association, should have been changed, by what is appropriately called “brainwashing,” into a decades-long obsession with hatred against me, not for any actual reason of what I might have done to them, but for what they, seemingly without rational intent, attempted to do on behalf of those well-known enemies of mine on which they had come to depend for the fears which controlled a crucial aspect of their personal mental life.
This was part and parcel of an Internal Dilligence campaign: the topic of brainwashing pestered into the cult’s internal and external literature — all of society and all of culture are brainwashed.  One key sign of the brainwashing: everyone who knows anything about Larouche thinks he’s nuts.  It resulted in the membership mindset that resulted in this odd little comment.:
LaRoucheisright said at 11:36 pm on November 24th, 2009:
Cocondeck: LaRouche is leading the fight. So call it what you want
. I think anyone who knows about LaRouche and isn’t supporting him at this point is brainwashed, so right back at ya dumb a$$.

An interesting thing about the Holidays and the Larouche org is that in recent years, the org has encouraged, or not discouraged, the LYM membership to touch base with their families, and visit them.  Never mind that the young recruits get an earful in being initiated about getting themselves off of “Mother’s Milk”.  Visit mom and dad, and they just might help defray the costs which encure in their mass deployments.

This “Brainwashing” alerting and warning campaign is a means to innoculate them from the hazards of stepping outside the cult’s bubble.
It’s also worth noting the internal and external literature has been packed with ralings against the members who are doubting in the predictive power of Larouche, coming after the forecast that October 12 would be the Day the world Descends into Armegeddon.  As per usual, the line has shifted to “phase shift”, an allowance to wait the next item of Economic Bad News — which, I gather, they’ll take Dubai for all it’s worth.  What of October 12?  Throw it in the bin with all the Octobers in the past 40 or 50 years.

But this berating of the Doubters in the midst does solve and innoculate another problem with the Thanksgiving Dinner stand by.  If I didn’t know that others were doing such a thing, I might just have to suck it up and survey the past few months of the LYM Basement Team’s presentations, available on youtube as well lpac itself, and see who doesn’t show up after Thanksgiving.  This is common practice, apparently, and a list of people who are “no longer with us” will be read after some Daily Briefing this week when it becomes apparent so and so has not returned.
Another thing you might watch, if so inclined, is to see if some of these LYM presenters have on a new suit.  This would demonstrate something along the lines of nerve wreck mom and dad wanting to help their wayward children out, but not wanting the horror of having their money wander through this cult.

The members coming back after Thanksgiving (the majority, I gather) will be rushed head-long back into World Historic Purposes.  A new Historic webcast, the eleventh of the year, is scheduled — either this week or next, I am not sure.  Whether the Larouchies are or are not a part of the TeaParty Movement (ideological and cause parasites) depends of definitions (and only the most telegenic Hitler Mustache posters are theirs) — and I guess the Larouchie celebre who descended from the morass is running for Congress.  Anyway, the Larouchies have disclaimed this ballast, and gone on to other pastures.  A lone Hitler Mustache holder floats into an “End the Fed” rally.  That’s one part of the Mass strike.  As well they will, in their minds, take over “We Are Change” – by putting their hastling of Al Gore into the historic lineage that brought us the Larouchies hastlings of Henry Kissinger. They and the org’s calling out of the “Nazi Policies” “Worse than Hitler” are responsible for Obama’s approval rating falling to 49 percent, “The Incredibly Shrinking Obama Presidency”.  (Point of order: every president since Johnson has had a period of time when their rating fell into the 30s.  Kennedy probably would have landed there  in his second term sans his assassination, leaving the string to have skipped just Eisenhower in going back to Truman.  And every one of these presidents has had a period of time when their ratings were in the 70s — though, I’ll need to check on that one.)    AND … cue calls of Bush Double standard for this writer’s concern in one… well, actually just one.

For those looking to see if old faces disappear, and if old faces are wearing new clothes… a quick peek see at the comments section of the youtube “Basement” productions… one clipped to this blog.
Tell obama to go fuck himself!!!!!!!!!!! You are an excellent newscaster!! Keep it up, very informative
A veritable Edward R Murrow.  And here’s an incoherent epithet –the word “Boomer”:
Boomer? what’s that now? Is that bad how? –
And how about some of that Wit they pick up in the org?
“So what’s the difference between Obama’s face and his asshole?  Well, when the same thing comes out of both ends, who can tell?”
antonio030562 (4 months ago) 
lighten up! and see beyond the delivery of the message and look to the ultimate agenda…to save you yr family and every one you know…
Your very survival is hanging on the balance and yr winging about what you perceive as inappropriate language…REALLY!

It occurs to me in rolling past these presentations and in seeing another conservative publication not let Robert Dreyfuss escape his past Robert Dreyfuss can’t escape his past to wonder if the LYM Basement team could even pull off writing a “Hostage to Khomeini” — blaming the British as it must, dedicated to Larouche as it must.  But … whatever.

Two other depositories of dumping– “The People’s Voice“, which we’ve seen before.  And Thom Hartmann’s website, weirdly coincidental in that I mentioned him once in relation to uses of Russian media outlets.