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April 11, 2007.

Monday, April 12th, 2010

Yesterday was April 11, a “Day That Will Live in Infamy”.  Ken Kronberg committed suicide.  Had it not been for this, it is unlikely that I would still be posting on matters concerning the Larouche cult, certainly not at the rate I have, and I would have moved on to some other bright shiny object of absurdity.  An anniversary like that puts me in mind to look back and answer the question — Why was I around to take special notice of this?  I am a little bit startled in re-reading what fades away in my memory.

The circumstances of the time are these.  A college newspaper writer saw a few posts on this blog — they were re-posted comments to silly posts about the Larouche Movement from a former member giving his warning sirens and relaying his experiences.  Current members descended upon his comments, and the tenor of my general attitude can be seen with this post.
The college writer thought I was that former member.  She was wanting to write a piece for her school newspaper, dangling further possibilities in shopping to the liberal rags of In These Times and something else that escapes my memory — which would be in its immediacy a Cautionary Warning Piece to the campus as the cult started its fall recruits.  I let it pass before she emailed again with more urgency.  I don’t know how this reads, but after a bit of thought, I switched my mind and actively, more aggressive than my laissez faire attitude norm, contacted the man to urge the poster some cooperation with the college newspaper writer.

There’s a bit more to the story, but not much.  Perhaps I leaned on him a bit too hard, perhaps not.  The article was apparently something of a Deadline Buster.  But it was published — made a presence at that campus and online.

There were a few Larouchies who continued to grace this blog with their presence.  Someone with the last name “Bettag”, for instance.  In hindsight they appeared to give me more power than I ever could give myself.  See this statement here.
Do you also suggest solutions to the problems that this ‘nut case’ raises? Economics, the war? Or do you just intend to disparage those who do, thus demoralizing the population with your stuff? Good show!
Really?  This Blog has the ability to “Demoralize the Population”?  Really?  Looking back, I wonder if she meant I was “demoralizing” the members of the Larouche Youth Movement — future daily briefings seem to suggest that possibility for interpretration.  Otherwise, I’m a little stumped — months, years later I’d be sharing closer to the truth: “this blog is read by, like, seven people”.

I was reasonably charitable with the figure of “Steve”, though could not help but balk at his great question “Do you know the difference between Man and the Animals?”  I somehow slipped away “Animals” and replaced it with “beasts” — I think that comes from the various references to “beast-men” and “Bestial”.  So sorry.

Anyway, such comments did not escape the notice of ex-members.  Hence the following comment, shortly after the “Day That Will Live in Infamy”, April 11, 2007:
See if the larouche cultists who show up here can give more details of what happened in larouche’s residence the night before and the morning of the suicide.

Some details emerged shortly, of course.  The Daily Briefing for that morning.  And so Bettag resurfaced here.  What does it make YOU if you publish stuff you have no personal knowledge of? How much research did you do before you published Nick Benton’s article and then responded to it as gospel…?

A fumbling and mad scramble indeed, easily and quickly substantiated — Dennis King published the briefing in full, it was published at factnet by (probably quasi)-anonymous figures — and the larouche org itself chimed in on its authenticity when it blasted Dennis King’s postings at its various websites, the relevant phrase:

These slanders, along with King’s posting of stolen documents.

I will add that nothing came out of this particular message.
Brian Says:  May 1st, 2007 at 2:45 pm I don’t believe you guys have any idea about LaRouche or his movement. I would reccomend all of you to call them and challenge them personally. Making a stupid website called skull / bones and ranting about something you obviously dont know is retarded. I live in Lynnwood WA, we should meet up and have some of the LYM youth there and then you can tell them how bad LaRouche is in person, unless your just a little pussy that hides behind fourms and posts shit like you know something..

I don’t think so.

When  an article for Kenneth Kronberg appeared on wikipedia, the Larouche Wikipedia Team came out and took their whacks.

:::::::::The statement about suicide is clearly hyperbole in the “briefing,” not intended to be taken literally. Benton is treating it as if it were a literal recommendation. “Malicious” seems to be the right word for this. —NathanDW 16:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

And so they continue, as you can see on this wikipedia page, rationalizing the Daily Briefing.  But, for some comedy relief, try this one.:

:::Take a look at WP:SELFPUB. Kronberg was a member of the LaRouche movement, so under Wikipedia policy a self-published source from that movement is acceptable in an article about him. However, in an article about an opponent of the LaRouche movement such as Dick Cheney, material sourced to LaRouche publications would be excluded. —Marvin Diode 14:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

The mind boggles.  And, as the Larouche Line evolved, so did the wikipedia assault…

::::How do you know it was “lack of support from his community”? He left no suicide note. For all we know, he was pushed to suicide by a wife who was undermining his life’s work by supporting George Bush. In a matter like this, it is disrectful to the deceased to speculate about his motives, but the real issue here is that the usual gang, King, Berlet, etc., have ghoulishly seized upon Kronberg’s death to push their agenda. That’s why this is a coatrack article. —Masai warrior 13:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

And about the Ken Kronberg Memorial Page.
:It is most emphatically not “his family’s memorial website” — it is a propaganda site run by his cousin, acting as a meatpuppet for Dennis King. —NathanDW 01:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

That’s an extraordinary claim, isn’t it? ”
To follow an evolution of the “Line”, we can track through the material I batched up here and here.  The startling focal point in terms of re-directional hate came when the Larouche org let it be known that Molly Kronberg donated money to the Bush Campaign.  Well, it is a ways from her congressional campaign days in garnering 285 votes, and back then, — that time in the late 1980s which, in the new drive to demonize Molly Kronberg, became another source of historical revision in the organization to meet the new narrative.

So it was this.
Ted Andromidas (not verified) on Tue Sep. 2, 2008 7:31 PM PDT  Now Molly, for over a decade you have ridiculed and vilified LaRouche. I was there, at gatherings, where you did that. So, using your name means little or nothing. The more interesting question for me is, why DID you hang around? What was the point? Why did you live on a paycheck provided by an organization, and those affiliated with it, that you have so despised for 19 years. Really, cut it out>

Submitted by Molly Kronberg (not verified) on Tue Oct. 7, 2008 10:06 PM PDT
However, I didn’t “live on a paycheck provided by [the] organization”–I never got a paycheck from the organization after 1986, and Ken never got a paycheck from the organization after 1978.
As to my vilifying LaRouche at social gatherings–of course I attacked LaRouche for years, and events have shown just how right I was. In particular, the death of my husband, driven to suicide by LaRouche and his associates, as Avi Klein’s article intimates.

Notable is that the cloddlessness of the cult’s members continued unabetted.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon Aug. 24, 2009 2:15 AM PDT.
Whatever you say about Larouche as far as predicting the crash of the economy he was right on target.
Wha–?  See too here.
The Washington Monthly piece is an interesting piece of journalism about a truly disturbing event: the death of Ken Kronberg. Unfortunately both Kate’s post and Avi’s article suffer from the usual problems with LaRouche critics: (i) over-reliance on emotive words like “crazy” which don’t describe much except to advertise your own status in the respectible anti-LaRouche crowd (ii) and total mischaracterization of the ideas of the LaRouche movement. […] Sometimes I think that those who claim that the ideas themselves are simply “crazy” simply use that term to convince intelligent fair-minded people not to bother reading them. Now, LaRouche’s personal behavior makes the critics’ mischaracterizations an easier sell. That may be the true crime.

A very curious game of compartmentalizing and rationalizing, I would say, particularly since what is being rationalized isn’t worth a lot.

Then came this.
My ubderstanding is that there were problems in the marriage and this sort of thing has driven many a man to jump off a bridge, out a window, whatever.
Marielle can say whatever she wants now that poor Ken can’t defend himself can’t she?She’s rather low as human beings come.
Posted by: revenire |
March 15, 2009 2:33 PM
And this.
Margaret (author) said:
Molly, aside from being evil, rotten and dirty, your problem is and always was that you are UGLY as SIN. Girl, you were whooped with the ugly stick! Dante needs to come back to create a new circle in Hell just for you.
# 17 September 2008 at 11:39 pm

Classy people, they.
And then, just for kicks, several iterations of this.
Revenire:  (i sure hope none of them jump and if they do it is out of a one story building and not into traffic)
When I get a chance, I’ll edit in the supposed sympathetic posturings that revenire made toward not solely Kronberg but too Duggan — as he sk
Relating to these court cases.

The suit also reprints an article from Larouche’s Web site in which he discussed Kronberg’s death, writing: “Now you’ve got a situation, where he kills himself, because he is living with that witch.”

And on to the legal wranglings of the day.

A former federal prosecutor’s involvement in a fraud trial more than 20 years ago is preventing him from representing a government witness in the case who is now suing the criminal defendants for alleged libel and harassment. […]

Markham said today he’s disappointed with Trenga’s ruling on the defense motion to disqualify and that he will likely ask the judge to reconsider the decision. The Justice Department, he noted, did not find a conflict in his representation of Kronberg. Court records show that Markham’s first contact with Kronberg was in 2009 when she approached him about claims of harassment.

Markham said regardless of whether he or someone else argues for Kronberg, there will be a “very effective presentation” of the claims.

The case proceeds.  The cult continues its public displays of insanity, and the public greets the org’s displays.
In hindsight I managed to eke out  a modest platform that a few former members used to shed some light on the horror of the cult.  It also served an equally useful platform where the Cult itself could show and expose itself when under pressure to reinvent its history.  Legal proceedings continue in Great Britain and in Virginia, see here from this page.  Whatever the legal outcomes, I could only say a record of Immorality is pretty well written, and anyone who can fill in those blanks should do so.

Define “Front”.

Friday, April 9th, 2010

Really?  You’re putting in that position of having to defend Alex Jones?  Really?

I don’t know where this sprouting from, but it begins with this citation of Alex Jones as “Larouche Front Talk Show“.  It roams into this Karl Rove Wall Street Journal request to the Tea Party to “Weed out the Kooks” , referenced for the sake of referencing the word “remnants” —

A small fraction of the tea partiers’ leadership are ambitious individuals who haven’t been able to hold office in either the GOP or Democratic Party. Some are from fringe groups like the John Birch Society or the remnants of the LaRouchies. Others see the tea party movement as a recruiting pool for volunteers for Ron Paul’s next presidential bid.

— Interesting, but I suppose false — or maybe it isn’t… I don’t know.  I would note that Ron Paul supporters basically invented the Tea Party movement, and Republican Party structures encroached to it.
But Comedic gold is as always found in the comments section.
Rove advises Tea Partiers to steer clear of fringe groups.

I agree. The top of the list would be the Democratic Party (especially the Obamatrons)and the Republican Party (especially neo-cons).
He laughingly identifies The John Birch Society. Ha! They are one of the finest promoters of Original American values in existence. If Rove says they are fringe, then he is a Socialist.
Thank you John Birch Society.

From Rove’s missive we jump up back to an Alex Jones reference.

The dangerous Lyndon LaRouche cult is attempting to hijack the TEA party movement.   This cult consists of fanatical followers of LaRouche’s peculiar brand of Marxism.  Interestingly, one of LaRouche’s former high level associates, Webster Tarpley, is now openly working with self-described “patriot” Alex Jones, who runs the infowars and prision planet web sites. […]
The strength of the LaRouche appeal to some TEA partiers was dramatically demonstrated in a recent election when LaRouche-Democrat Congressional candidate Kesha Rogers won the nomination in the 22nd District in Texas.  She campaigned on one main issue — impeach Obama.  That message had great appeal to many in the freedom movement and they came across party lines to nomimate
Rogers victory has done massive harm to the freedom movement by giving LaRouche the one thing he lacked – his own political foothold on the elective battleground.  He used the TEA party movement to give him what he never had – legitimacy.

Mostly the dangerous Larouche Group is interested in standing in front of the Tea Party and claiming it, in various swarths, as itself.  The Tea Party is not in danger of being hi-jacked by such a thing, nor did they particularly vote in the nomination of Kesha Rogers… which is best understood like this.  A bit less so the final sentences here.

My previous comments on the supposed Alex Jones — Larouche Axis is found here — I’m not going to repost them.  I can assure everyone that neither man invented that one about the Rothchilds, or the Vast Eugenics Plot that in Alex Jones’s estimation is leading to the Government secretly building large numbers of Internment Camps throughout Middle America.  But skip past, for the moment, trying to slice the confluence of Political and Conspiratorial issues and let’s look and Hiring and Employee Relations.  From this article:

Ryan was the new guy. He had answered a Craigslist want ad six weeks earlier looking for a radio producer for an unspecified program. “If I put my name in the ad, I’d have fans lining up out the door to apply,” Jones told me. (The location of Jones‘ studio is a carefully guarded secret.) When he applied, Ryan was a casual listener of the show who enjoyed Jones‘ style but thought the subject matter was “a little out there.” After a few weeks immersed in Jones‘s world, however, he was a believer. “If you saw what we see every day–fifty to a hundred articles all calling for global government, for eugenics, mind control, and everything else–you’d believe it too,” he said.

I’m a little chagrined by the ease of falling into the opinions sprouted by Alex Jones based on a sort of immersion, but it appears there is an exchange of wages for services rendered.  As for the Larouche org, here we see two workers doing their deeds for their employer.

Well, the figures speak for themselves for Renee Sigerson and John Sigerson.  Significant tithing, I would say.

Did you know there’s a war going on in Seattle?  Take ONE.

Rave To our neighbors who for years have treated the neighborhood to the gift of their outdoor tree decorated with different colored lights and charms for every holiday. Thanks for the lovely spectacle!”
Rant To [political activist Lyndon] LaRouche supporters. If you really want to reach the intelligence of voters, do it through intelligent means. I would talk with you, but your posters of President Obama as Hitler make me feel that LaRouche supporters belong to a cult. Though you may be adamantly against his policies, the president is no Hitler, and it’s rude to make that comparison. How about a picture of LaRouche instead, or posters saying how LaRouche can fix our country’s issues? Why turn off people you want to reach?

… And Jeers to this rusty tailgate.
You know.  This is a bad idea.  They are quite capable of doing this — I think I remember seeing them with something in 2004 with Larouche’s visage next to Lincoln and Roosevelt.
Anyway, I think the cult is liable to take this headline seriously, as seriously as they take their War on the British Empire.
… preparing with their Larouche Constitutional Dollars.

According to a police report, another sign-wielding Mooninite (that’s what we’re calling them now) called police at about 4:00pm on March 24th and said he’d been assaulted by an angry passerby.
Police arrived at the scene and found the man “carrying large political signs with a very unflattering picture of our country’s current president.”
The victim told police he was holding his sign “and trying to engage passersby in conversation” when a “very enraged” man walked up to him, circled around him and began screaming “fucking retard” over and over. The suspect also told the victim he “was in a cult,” tried to grab his sign, and then shoved him.

I beg of everyone: this is not the way to fight the War on Larouchies.  They Battle must be Waged and won with Youtube Videos.

Those people are assholes. I had my 85 year-old mother (who still hasn’t gotten over the closure of F&N) downtown a few years back, and one of them got in her face and started screaming some obscenity laced tirade about Bush.
Mom is a Democrat, but she’s also a lady who doesn’t stand for words like that. I thought she was going to hit him with her handbag (if she were twenty years younger she would have)
Seriously, they’re just jerks. I don’t know what they’re trying to accomplish. Reminding us that LaRouche is still alive?

… We’ll see when the man dies if that’s the whole aim of their antics.

… Wait.  They aim to bring Kesha Rogers to congress (though apparently they already think they have), (last sentences in my post already linked), Summer Shields, and Rachel Brown.  Right?  Roll through the campaigns.

In the span of a few minutes, several people spoke to the LaRouche/Brown supporters and signed a document on a clipboard.
When the Advocate editor asked why the Brown supporters had a sign with Obama’s face and a mustache like Hitler’s, they refused to answer, however.
A young male in the group said, “We’re not talking to people.”
Asked if that meant the press, considering that he was talking to several people, he repeated his refusal and said, “It’s all on the website.” He blocked his face with his hand while the Advocate editor took a few more pictures.
The woman in the group said she was a Brown supporter but she also refused to answer questions.
While the press took photos, she turned the sign so her body was blocking Obama’s mustached portrait. She also said to look for information about Brown’s candidacy on her website, rachelbrownforcongress.

Wait.  They’re not talking to people?  Well then.  That’s a start, because it at least means they’re no longer shouting invectives at already.  (See the 85 year old mom in Seattle.)

How’s the Summer Shields campaign going?

Surely the New Jersey readers want to know about supporting this candidate.

Summer Justice Shields, running in the California Democratic Congressional Primary 8th District now represented by Nancy Pelosi, was informed that he would not be allowed a booth at the upcoming California Democratic Party Convention. With the second lowest approval rating in the House of only 11%, her seat is considered one of the most vulnerable. Campaigning, sometimes door to door, Summer Shields has seen widespread support for the need for her and the Obama Administration’s replacement with a return to the nation of a “Hamiltonian” banking and credit system, starting with a “Pecora Commision” federal criminal investigation of the roles of all those responsible for foisting the Wall Street bailouts on the nation, including now Treasury Secretary Timmy Geithner, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Hank Paulson. The following article is from the website, and at Summer Shields for Congress California Democrats Move to Exclude LaRouche from State Convention

Wait.  Where does that come from?  Here, I guess.  An absurdly low approval rating, an almost absurdly low disapproval rating, and a  bunch of blank.
Rules of thumb:  Congress is NEVER popular — reflected to congressional leadership.  Your congress-critter almost invariably is, in your district.  This is a bizarre trick, apparently coming with the same feelers that hold that Kesha Rogers has been elected to Congress.

Anyway… You know something?  This citation of “Neo-Nazi Girl” is false, but it occurs to me…

Are you kidding? You’re either profoundly incompetent or just plain lying. Do not talk to me about dignity or respect either. You accuse the LaRouche movent of racism and ani-semetism knowing full well that we are running a candidate, Mr. Summer Sheilds, in the Democratic Primary against Nancy Pelosi who is African American. So you permit these kinds of slanders to appear on your website without ever even talking to a LaRouche candidate.
They’re NOT TALKING TO PEOPLE.  What is the press supposed to do about weird people waving nazi-images put together by largely forgotten cults (see Karl Rove’s “remnants” remark.)
Why would they have any particular reason to “know full well” such?  See too this San Francisco newspaper article.  Pelosi, who faces no Democrats in June, will “take a look” at who wins the GOP primary in her district and “go from there,” her political director, Jennifer Crider, said.

Silverchild pops in to echo “European”:
The young lady you reference is NO Nazi, but is fighting fascism!
We will remember that Jeremiah Duggan joined the Larouche organization because of the “Anti-Nazi campaigns” the org was involved with “at the time”.  Silverchild, I will point out, calls Jeremiah Duggan “Jeremy” here — as did Howie G.

Wikipedia Edit Attempt Alert.

Anyway, relating to Duggan… as the recent Channel 4 special brought some new people to view it — an example here

Any fans of Bugsy Malone?  Event described here, Petition description here.

BBC 4 “Lost Abroad”.

Friday, April 2nd, 2010

It is curious to note this weird item (is there any other kind?) from Larouche.  I won’t suggest to read the whole thing, but I will say read what you want — and I will just clip this.

There could be no reasonable objection to stating that the so-called “health bill” just rammed through by President Barack Obama, is a carbon copy of the original form of what became notorious as the wartime practice of genocide by Adolf Hitler. Indeed, the very essence of the argument put forward by President Obama is a treasonous attack on the great principle of the Preamble of the U.S. Federal Constitution.The essence of the matter is that President Barack Obama, just like Adolf Hitler, has shown himself incapable of distinguishing between a human being and a roasted goose for someone’s dinner.As for the culpable members of the U.S. Congress who made themselves complicit in this Hitler-like crime against humanity, in the main, they acted not as men or women, but as barnyard chickens, hoping that they were not next on the table.
So, like the children who fall victims of sodomy, they are denied their humanity in the same disregard for the distinction of human being from barnyard beast. All of this goes to show, that the great defect of U.S. morality today, is the people who are supporting Obama, are like the men who practice sodomy on children, like President Obama, lacking a clear understanding of the difference between man and a beast misused for their entertainment.

He goes on to align his org with the Vatican’s line regarding it’s pedophile scandal — Media Diversion — and here I will note that I was prepped for this because Howie G is always is a day or so ahead of LPAC in pushing the Larouchian line.  And there we take the cue from the ultra-conservative Catholic Doctrine on sex, followed by the suggestion of some “insider” connection, and in the footnotes a number of historical figures pop up for no other reason than — just because.

The new Obama Follower Sex Fixation (and there is more here) appears to have seeped into the cult’s followers — as evidenced by this:

A female co-worker of mine was leaving the post office, located at 2772 Roosevelt St., when the demonstrator, one of two 20-something white males, asked her to sign the petition. She refused and kept walking. The man, wearing a white shirt, hat and sunglasses, yelled that she “just wanted to see Obama naked.” […]

Tangentially, this line of argument <supporters of ex-convict and alleged cult leader and anti-Semite Lyndon LaRouche—has many Jewish leaders, but when pressed to name any of them or provide evidence that Jews support LaRouche, he refused. >  misses the mark on Larouche’s anti-semitism.  If I want to give “European” any credence for his “KKKNAZIBLEH” statements, it comes from around there — it should be noted though, that instead of answering with your “Jeff Steinberg” (He count as any type of “Leader”?), they made the “Go Back to your wacky Facebook” pitch.  (Your Facebook and your Sex?) A similar effect can be seen in  this youtube video of a deployment where the Larouche member just keeps repeating the word “bitch”.

So, a few months ago, “Rachel Holmes” left the comment here that “chewing gum and Hitler.  Perfectly describes what holds LaRouche World together.”   This is not wholly true.  The third component is a juvenile sexual distortion.

For See the last posts from “European” at factnet, where he made this weird and curious statement.
Beside that, J. Duggan got attracted to the organization because of the anti-nazi campaigns it had at the time,

There is no “Anti-Nazi” campaign.  There never has been.  Jeremiah Duggan was drawn into what he thought was an anti-war conference in what he thought was an anti-war movement.  He was ever-so-briefly peddling, or with people who were peddling, something called “Children of Satan”, what turned out to be a four parter.  Unfortunately, he would make an appearance in Part 3 — subtitled (ahem): “The Sexual Congress for Cultural Fascism”, wherein his life is settled into (from here):

That publication contends that Jeremiah was mentally ill and points out that German authorities continue to stand by their finding of suicide. It portrays Jeremiah’s grieving mother as a dupe who has been pressured into joining the worldwide conspiracy to get LaRouche: “The objective of the media smear campaign, linking LaRouche-affiliated organizations to the Duggan suicide, is to build pressure in several Continental European countries, and eventually launch a major disruption of the LaRouche campaign . . . to assure that if there is a John Kerry Presidency, LaRouche will be nowhere near the premises.”

Other than that, the pamphlets place pictures of Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz next to your picture of Adolf Hitler.  Skip to today and the next step in the evolution of that technique is simply to merge a Hitler mustache onto your Barack Obama and Harry Reid.  As for that “Sexual Congress” thing, we have come full circle with their latest iteration of the question “Do you know the difference between man and the animals?”

The person in the pseudonym “European” related his meetings with Jeremiah Duggan on factnet.  I do not believe I read them at the time, but reading them now I am left in the great “Huh?” with these posts.

1) Something made him have this world outlook. I would try to find out what he did BEFORE he met the organization, in Paris! What was his life REALLY back then? (Usually relatives dont know everything about what once children are up to.) His worldview was when I spoke to him very similar to those that have suicidial pacts, or people that experience things that make them suicidial. He COULD have been on drugs!

I at least have some reference points for where one can conjecture “suicidal”.  For “Suicide Pact”, I really have not the foggiest reference point — outside of, perhaps, the hysterical 1980s anti-Heavy Metal campaigns aped in the Larouche org by Don Phau (for appeals to Christian Conservatives, I suppose?) and currently all the rage in the Islamic World.  This is a bizarre conjecture, made stranger by his denial.

Suicide pact! Ridiculous! An insult against me!

Back to his “When I met Jeremiah Duggan” posts:
I noticed something very soon after we started do discuss. Duggan was psychologically very unstable. He had a very pessimistic and negative view of life when I spoke to him. The thing he was opposing with the organization that evening was that the organization believed it could create peace in the middle east. He said that man was evil, the world was evil and God was in fact Satan that torments all people. Life is evil and just a pain!
This is weird.  Parody is redundant with the organization, so it doesn’t look like a parody of the cult’s double thinking on who’s in with us and who’s out against us, and the mind power tricks that come from them, so much as a straight-ahead duplication.  The futher give-away is the reference to drugs.  There is a “Through the Looking Glass” feel to this report, along the lines of my last post’s side by side placement of an LPAC release on a deployment in Detroit next to a Detroit News report on seemingly the same deployment.

I admit European is more difficult to explain than “Revenire” — who hasn’t posted here in a while, but notably his initial thrusts here revolved on Jeremiah Duggan — on whom I had comparatively not focused much attention.  Or the Larouche Wikipedia Team, whose most fervent dream is to delete the entry on Jeremiah Duggan, but would settle for some dilution down to the German Report and removal of reference of Duggan on the other Larouche pages.  For that matter, the figure of Alan Osler, who can find it himself to make an issue of being able to — in the year 2008 — to ably mistype Larouche’s name and find information on Larouche where Erica Duggan in 2003 couldn’t.  (The logical line of implication with that one would be that Alan Osler wanted to say Duggan was lying about mistyping Larouche’s name?) The problem is I’ve known the identity of “European”.

I can say very little with any certainty on Jeremiah Duggan.  Read the details here.  He attended what he thought was an anti-war conference.  He realized that it was something entirely different.  He made a desperate call to his mom, and was then run over in traffic by a truck.  For seven years, Erica Duggan has had to make sense of the final “Get Me Out of Here” call, and the Larouche organization has been publishing nonsense putting the news story in the framework of British and geopolitical plots.

Yesterday, British Channel 4 broadcast a documentary tracking her efforts.  It is available here.  We also see further news stories here, here, here, here and here.
The Guardian’s tv capsule of the program doesn’t do it justice.  Jeremiah Duggan had been travelling around Europe when he made a panicked phone call to his mother back in London. Less than an hour later he was hit by several cars near Frankfurt having apparently run into the road., 
The tv capsule for The Mirror is a little off..
Seven years later Erica is still trying to find out what led her handsome, clever and caring son to travel to Germany with a group of anti-war protesters. 
But then again, the final sentence for that Guardian capsule looks accurate.:

Both families want justice for their children in the same way the rest of us want to breathe in and out.


Special additional note:

“Er,” I said. “Um, so, who are you guys..?”

“We’re supporters of Lyndon LaRouche. We just got a representative elected in Texas…! Did you know that Obama’s conspiring to shut down NASA?” he demanded.
No you didn’t.  Kesha Rogers was not elected to the House of Representatives.  Sorry, try again.

The Detroit News versus the CNA of the DPRL

Friday, March 26th, 2010

Okay.  Wait.  Is this a suggestion of Strong Armed Tactics from the notorious Hitlerite, Nancy Pelosi?

Political P.S.: Following the spirited ceremony organized by Protocol Director Matthew Goudeau, he was approached by a man handing out flyers.
This petitioner introduced himself as Summer Shields, a Democratic candidate for the Eighth Congressional District, which has long been controlled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Considering that Pelosi took over that very seat from the Burton dynasty, Goudeau wisely advised the would-be candidate: “I’d be careful who you hand that flyer to in this crowd.”

From one former political opponent on the ballot — Cindy Sheehan — to another one — Summer Shields, a suggestion of trolling for … support?
gkgeger on March 24th, 2010 10:38 am
Our government & representatives DO NOT work for the people of the US. They instead work for Wall Street Financial interests & shareholders. The purpose & job of our government is to care for and govern the people. It’s job is NOT to care for & govern Wall Street. Our governments job is to Govern. NOT MAKE MONEY! We MUST return our government back to the people and we must support leadership that will take us there. Please support LaRouche. LaRouchePac.comm

annoying4fun on March 24th, 2010 7:45 am
you are right about everything until you get to La Rouche.

gkgreger on March 24th, 2010 6:47 am
You agree with my ideas. Most of my ideas come from LaRouche. I give them to you and you agree. But then you disagree with Larouche? Most people in society are afraid to support leaders that would dare to disagree with the ruling class. It’s dangerous. You might be punished. Most people are afraid to go against popular opinion & just go along to get along. It’s safe. Rise up above your earthly fears & seek to live with the truth. YouTube: LPACTV Audio Preview, The LaRouche Plan

I suppose one could explain how the ideas he “picked up from larouche” are better found elsewhere, keeping your ideals better in tact.  I don’t know the implications of “rising above your earthly fears“.  That train in the guise of this person seems to devolve over this direction, actually.

LaRouche charged that N.M. Rothschild & Sons and its Inter-Alpha Group partners, including The Royal Bank of Scotland, ING, and Spanish giant Banco Santander are bankrupt, and stuffed with fraudulent assets, to prop up the value of which they are looting Brazil through a carry trade which last year netted them average returns of 25 per cent—paid out of the hides of the Brazilian people—in the same way the same gang, and for the same reason, coordinated the brutal looting of post-Soviet Russia in the 1990s through privatisation, which gutted Russia’s industrial base and reduced its population by millions.

And on around into this curious debate.  (Or is it here?)  Here we go from Larouche and Kesha Rogers against the Marxists, to Ron Paul and Peter Schiff as the Only Honest folks to… Paul Harvey against the Jewish Media???

SCLARK2112 March 20th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Both parties are 100% RESPONSIBLE for the DECLINE and FALL of America. Throw the BUMS OUT NOW
!Bush and Obama should both have been IMPEACHED. While it’s too late to IMPEACH Bush, we still have time to IMPEACH the Marxist Obama and there is a movement underway to do just that. Google KESHA ROGERS TEXAS.

hyylo  March 20th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Ron Paul is the only honest person in congress.
Peter Schiff is also honest.

gustafus21 March 20th, 2010 at 12:26 pm Paul Harvey is the only person who explained this for me…
If 14 trillion dollars vanished from the economy… the government can inject 14 trillion into the economy in the form of targeted relief … before we get inflation.
NOBODY wants us to know this… because the gangsters of business want it both ways
.they want the bailouts… if the money goes to healthcare – they grab the megaphones of Jewish media and yell INFLATION!!

I give up.
Okay.  Interlude to think up campaign ads for the trio of Summer Shields, Kesha Rogers (another story from an Israeli publication of the local party’s disowning of her), and Rachel Brown.  Maybe a jingle will do?  Something up-beat and up-tempo, like this?

The campaigns continue, as we try to figure out what media they’re campaigning on.  We know the good old Jack Stockwell program, seen in the links down here.  Apparently Harley Schlanger made an appearance on behalf of Kesha Rogers here
Listen if you must.  I’m curious to fact-check this release.

Very similar reports from LaRouche Political Action Committee organizers in two very different regions of the U.S. indicate the new phase of the mass strike now opened by Congress’s capitulation to Obama’s Nazi health care bill. LaRouche PAC organizers on the streets of a northern New Jersey town, and in front of a Post Office in a town just south of Detroit, Michigan were swamped yesterday, all day, throughout the day, by angry Americans, looking for leadership, and ready to act.

In Michigan, LaRouche PAC impeachment signs in front of the post office, calling on people to pull over to help stop Obama, had people standing in line, often 5-6 at a time, waiting to talk to organizers, and/or sign up and contribute. Most of the people coming around did not come to the post office, but came to talk to our organizers. People continued to line up after the post office was closed. Organizers asked people: “Do you want to get Hitler out of the White House?”, and told them “There is no one else but LaRouche who is saying that this Obama and his health care are fascist.” Democrats and Republicans alike were furious, considered the health bill unconstitutional, agreed that the Republican Party hadn’t done a damn thing that worked to stop the bill, and wanted to join us in fighting.

It was the same in New Jersey, where a LaRouche PAC table turned into a constant mini-rally throughout the day, with people crowded around, talking to organizers, calling others on the cell phones to tell them to come over, too.

In other news.

No, let’s ponder the stories for a minute.  Why, these were reported in the mainstream media as well.
“This is nothing but hateful,” one woman said to the two representatives, a man and a woman manning the literature table. “You are just inciting anger!”
The two said nothing in response. When a reporter asked for comment, the woman referred the reporter to PAC headquarters.
Margaret Betts of Birmingham was so rankled by the posters, she went home to get her camera and returned to document the scene for her blog:
“I’m just a senior citizen, but I find this highly offensive,” she said. “Just seeing the picture of our president with a Nazi mustache absolutely disgusts me. I told them they should be ashamed of themselves.”
Pretty soon a Birmingham police officer, Cpl. Jerry Hall showed up. He said residents had “tweeted” the police department with complaints about the malicious nature of the posters. “As much as people may not like their lovely literature,” Hall said, “they have a right to be here. I’m trying to quell people’s suspicions that they shouldn’t or couldn’t be there. They are protected by free speech.”
But for many, comparing our president with the man responsible for the extermination of six million Jews was reprehensible. After talking with the two LaRouche representatives, Birmingham resident Greg Thrasher said was enraged.
“I wish I had the courage to toss their table over,” he said. “Then I got into an argument with a couple of residents who signed their petition. They were saying how they felt Obama was socialist. About five minutes into the chat, the words ‘you people’ and ‘n—–‘ finally emerged. Rather than coming together, we’re yelling nasty insults at each other. I guess that’s where we still are in 2010.”

No.  Seriously.  Then again:

Although Obama’s overall attitude and behavior have grown no less arrogant, even as his approval ratings sink lower with each daily poll, what has grown is his fixation and his terror, every time Lyndon LaRouche opens his mouth, a fact that has led a number of Washington insiders to comment that the only thing Obama seems to fear is LaRouche.

The line is that every mention of extremists from the Democratic Party will be shown as a sign of this obsession.  Just as well.  Supposedly the tenor in Larouche headquarters is getting a little weirder.

We can’t tell you who, or why or where, but there is a document circulating which is very disturbing to read as well as funny. Disturbing because it seems to indicate that as Lyn nears a funeral, the deadenders and LYMsters are hallucinating about Lyn to the point that it could be seen as a severe sickness by those who study cults and hillarious by us who know this cult. The mechanism which is taking place is very similar to what Chator has reported in that members of the cult see Lyn in virtually any article, media or web source and will prove to themselves that there are secret messages written or said where the real point of the piece Lyn! This often takes the shape of someone wishing to be the first to find hidden messages or to indicate that the whole point of the article is to stop the universe from turningto Lyn to be saved.

I think some things are cyclical here, but maybe there is some item in the find cycle, that the essence gets distilled, fluff is thrown out of the personality cult and the name is simply chanted in unison.  I suppose it’s true the cult is not falling apart (never knew what the metrics for such an idea would be anyway), but Phase Shifts are always possible.


And Keep your eye on this program on Jeremiah Duggan.
I was meaning to revisit the history of the figure of “European”, but it doesn’t seem worthwhile.  Maybe I’ll post it in the comments here over the next week.

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What did Kesha Rogers do last Saturday?

Saturday, March 20th, 2010

Things that are stupid.  The wikipedia article for Kesha Rogers.  I think the article should probably be about five sentences in length, commiserate with her relevance.  I do draw your attention to the Pete Olson quotation balanced off with the Gerry Birnberg quotation —  Pete Olson is guilty of simple partisan baiting, and I suppose good for him — the Harris County Democrats should be looking around for a replacement to Gerry Birnberg for coddling a cult.

Interesting to see this item about Zeitgeist Exposed (with participants like Larouche).  There was a Zeitgeist Event Showing a week ago.  I thought of attending.  I didn’t.  I guess my mind remains un-re-melded.  Really, all I would have provided if I’d looked and posted on it is a sense of   Local color.:

Paul Glumaz, a balding middle-aged man whose booming voice carried a trace of an East Coast accent, set up a table festooned with pamplets and posters, one of which had the words “impeach now” emblazoned below a portrait of Pres. Barack Obama wearing a Hitler-style moustache. As a strong breeze ruffled the political literature on the table, Glumaz laughed and described some of the hand gestures he’d seen from drivers of passing cars.”I’ve been getting a lot of birds and some thumbs up,” he said.
Glumaz described his trip to Vashon was part political mission, part tourism.
“I have a friend here, and he’s going to show me around tonight,” he explained.

When I saw the headline blare “There is Only Thing Larouche’s Enemies Are Obsessed With: What is Lyndon Larouche Going to Do on Saturday?”, I was confronted with a question I had never considered.  This was for last Saturday, and I thought about the question.  Would Lyndon Larouche wake up early, say 6 am ish, to catch Rocky and Bullwinkle reruns — or am I transplanting my eight year old self to him?  I quickly found myself terribly uninterested in the question.  I suppose you might want to know what I did last Saturday?  No?  I didn’t think so.  I could have given you the answer, “Went to a Zeitgist Showing”, but alas I didn’t bother with that.  What did Larouche do?  I half suspect he’s dead now and the org has hired a actor to do these random monthly descents.  But, otherwise — I suppose he’d do some prep work of some variety for his roughly monthly appearance before a camera for live distribution over the Internet.  Then he’d deliver his performance.   Nobody would notice except, I suppose, for TimeForTruth, who would dutifully fill me on where his meanderings are leading.  I have no idea why he’d post there — I’ve posted three times more and once directly addressing TimeForTruth.

Whatever we can say, they’re scurrying about inserting Larouche into current events.  When they speak that Obama’s “Obsession with Larouche”, they look to the story of Rahm Emanuel speaking of “fringe groups” and assume they’re speaking about them — last time I saw them mentioned to the tea party they were pegged as at “the fringes of the Tea Party”.  (Here they are!) When they hear some Republicans speak about the “Ides of March”, it must be coming from them — or maybe not.  Hell — they’re taking credit for Scott Brown’s victory.  In the end, Obama seems rather “obsessed” with passing his health care policy.  I suppose I can speak luke-warmly on it — I would like to say we can do better than this bill, but I guess by definition we can’t.  I don’t know what to do with that Overton Window thing — every time I look around people I hear these things about “Death Panels” and a tangeant about Abortion.  Oh well.

Next election coming up — Summer Shields against Nancy Pelosi.  The most talked about political ad of the year involves Demon Sheep.  I think for their political ad in this race, the Summer Shields campaign might want to look to it for inspiration.
Of course, I already have two ad proposals for Rachel Brown against Barney Frank in my head.  I’ll put them down one of these days.

Harris County Democrats dump Kesha Rogers

Monday, March 15th, 2010

I suppose I should admit that “TimeForTruth” is, in some way right here.:
So no real responses eh’, no suprise there.
I never seriously responded to such items as.:
Are you even capable of removing your penis from the warm USB port of your computer (that’s the only reason I can surmise that you’re still here!!) and getting into the streets to start your slander campaign against Larouche to grow your following, like all real valid movements!
I don’t much have need to grow a movement.  I don’t quite know what is being asked of me here, though.  Out in the real world, off line, I have zero outlets to discuss on any level with anyone the topic of Larouche.  He is not going to register with anyone anywhere.
Larouche’s October of 2006 collapse was laughed at, Larouche calling of phase shifts acceleratingly downward were laughed at, BUT THE SOLUTIONS HAVE NEVER BEEN DISCREDITED BY THE LEAGUE OF LOSERS YOU ALL SHOW YOURSELVES TO BE!
The term “Phase shift” is best understood as a rationalization for a (predictably) failed Larouche prediction of Apocaylptic Destruction.  (See for some modestly detailed explanation of yet another failed prediction for the factnet post “Phase Shift My Ass“.

A comment from Howie G that was notable.  Kind of.
You are so f$$$ked Skullie. I hope yu sht in your pants.
It is a strange and incoherent quasi-threat.  Actually I want to bring up Howie G to get to the odd cult direction this post took.
My role is, chiefly, what ordinary people would consider a mysterious and miraculous hand of history in the making. The hand has written on the wall, and, thus, a would-be shoddy remake of a would-be Belshazzar, is doomed. It will be as if the hand of the future had descended upon the present.
I can’t help but think I see echoes from the latest “Historical Webcast” built up in LPAC land with the headline, ““The Enemy Headquarters Is Focused On Only One Thing: What LaRouche Will Do On Saturday”.  From what I gathered, he seemed to be carving out a mystical being for the members to continue paying tribute to after he croaks.

Okay.  The big news out of Texas.  A Resolution axing all ties with the campaign of Kesha Rogers.  YelpYelpYelpYelp.  And… if you say so.

It’s probably a necessary step.  You don’t want this to plague you through November, and this is a pretty vicious weed.  I will note that the “statement” published by lpac and onto these blog message comments sections fits into the long line of Larouche alternative history of events, such as…
… see Gerald Pechenuk explain how if it weren’t for the Paul Simon clique forcing Adlai Stevenson III to decline his lieut governor victor in the 1986, Stevenson III would have become president with financial advisor Lyndon Larouche at his helm.  (Link recovered from an earlier blog post.)
… Why, conviently, when we jump to LPAC’s response from Kesha Rogers (available in the comments section over here)…

“Perhaps they should remember the last time Democrats in Texas threw out the wishes of the voters, in 1988, when LaRouche Democrat Claude Jones was elected Harris County Democratic Party chair, only to be illegally removed by County hacks, who rejected the voters’ choice. That decision had a near-fatal impact on the Harris County Democratic Party, giving the Republicans a stranglehold on elected offices which has only, recently, been challenged.

Yes.  That was the cause of Republican Triumphs and Democratic Defeats in the state of Texas…
… post the era of Lloyd Bentsen.

I either would or not like a clarification on the meaning of these things.
which have brought him to his Ides of March. Apparently, for the moment, the fools on the Texas SDEC, are lining up, dutifully, behind the soon-to-be-gone Obama.
Throw that around, historical references in tact.  In a few months we’ll get back to the “Guns of August”.

About there you see why the Texas Democratic Party had to actively disassociate themselves from the candidacy of Kesha Rogers, as opposed to passively disassociate.  With all due respect to P Diddie‘s sentiments.  Yes, “it doesn’t hurt her”, in that sense that Kesha Rogers and her controllers of Harley Schlanger in the personality cult of Lyndon Larouche will continue to make their way to far right wing conspiracy joints along the lines of this one , making profit gainable with this curious slice of Americana (note too the common deraugatory phrase “Democrat Party”.)  Indeed, it gives them their storyline of Great Power Jostles from the British Empire.  But they had that anyway no matter what happens, so who cares?

As for the concern expressed at lpac and Ms. Rogers that she can “sue” these “idiots”:  here.  I recommend that the Harris Texas Democratic Party find a meager write in candidate.
Next primaries for the Larouchies: California in June, Massachusetts in September.  Spaced out for fun and profit with the one possible at the start (in March), eh?

continuing coverage of Kesha Rogers’s March to Congress.

Thursday, March 11th, 2010

I am meaning to look back over the comments sections for the various blog and news posts that came out of the Kesha Rogers victory in Texas — 22.  Anything new?  Well, here’s how the people in Texas — 22 are taking it.

Or, if you’re not all that interested in street theater, instructions on how to de-select Kesha Rogers if you’re plopping down that insta-Straight Democratic Ticket — follow through on links off of this page.  Note on Gerry Birnberg — Obviously, the county party chairs want you to vote a straight ticket, which is why Gerry Birnberg was trying so hard to make lemonade in that story. — Still a stupid comment.

Also, we may as well note — their stipends from Leesburg don’t cover the price of beer.

OMG! A few years back a whole gaggle of LoRouchies flew into our fundraiser. I made the mistake of letting them in on “student” prices as a favor to Kesha. BIG MISTAKE!

We asked for a donation for beer. The key word was “asked”. Seems like that meant “free” to them.

They did help clean up after the event. In fact we had an unused case of wine (value $80) that they helped take to someones car. I presumed it was one of the organizers car.

The thing I’m watching is to see if this spurs an up-tik in the cults’ contributions to the campaigns of Rachel Brown against Barney Frank and Summer Shields against Nancy Pelosi.  They believe they’re charging forward with the Mass Strike, dangedit, and now’s the time to splurge.
… And getting in touch with anyone round about “Tea Party” they can.

One of the curious things from the blogger reaction came from wonkette.  The headline identified the candidate in question, Kesha Rogers, as a “Birther”.  Can someone point me to where Kesha Rogers making comments about Obama’s Kenyan citizenship?  I’ll take her masters of Larouche and Harley Schlanger for that purpose.  I did find one comment here… Birther?  That may be searching for money from the True Believers, though.

Robert Beltran threw in $300 for Kesha Rogers.  Now that the whole thing is picking up steam, I’m sure he will now throw in contributions for Rachel Brown and Summer Shields and Rachel Brown, right?  Of interest, this comment, conferring my last Larouche post’s comment that their educational curriculum boils down to letting the LYM members in on a table headed by Larouche seated by various luminaries plotting strategy against another table with other luminaries (Queen Elizabeth, George Soros, etc.)

Their original thinking is well grounded in study of great and beloved friends of the past who have contributed original thoughts, eg. Kepler, Gauss, Mozart, Bach, Shakespeare, Vernadsky and present leaders, Pope Benedict XVI, Amelia Boynton Robinson, Robert Beltran, the old geezer himself, Lyndon LaRouche, Jeff Steinberg, John Hoefle, Helga Zepp-LaRouche, etc. Keep an eye on Summer Shields who will be running against Nancy Pelosi and Rachel Brown who will challenge “Bail-Out” Barney Frank.

Well, I guess we have that axiom rattling.  Gauss and Mozart and Kepler and Bach and Shakespeare — Oh My!  Well, they’re not all that original in this tact.

Okay, they can claim some dead people, but… can they really claim the Pope?

Robert Beltran recap:   I once felt fear at a Star Trek convention. This convention in New Jersey advertised all of Star Trek: Voyager’s crew. All came but Kate Mulgrew. I was watching the Knight’s club table when Robert Beltran (Chakotay) was on stage. A fan had asked him what his opinion of the Star Trek universe was and Beltran candidly replied it was: he goes to work, he performs his lines, and he gets his paycheck. And the crowed BOOED him! I made a note of the emergency exits. That is precisely what you *don’t* say to Star Trek fans!

Hey!  Maybe the Larouche organization should run him.  Hollywood glitz and all that Schwarzenegger stuff, right?



Sunday, March 7th, 2010

I was thinking I could let this story lie.  I would get back to it with my usual brush-off on Friday.  Then I saw this quote.  True, this is qualified  support, but it is a type of favorable support nonetheless, and one that in key passages I am having serious trouble straining out these statements that could fit a context that would put Gerry Birnberg’s words intoa a favorable context.

“One of the things the LaRouchites are able to do is to engage young people,” said Gerry Birnberg, chairman of the Harris County Democratic Party. “If she can turn out young people to vote for Democrats, all the better.”

Birnberg said Rogers has much to commend her. He said his main objection to her candidacy is her association with LaRouche, and that if she instead held many of the same views but belonged to a group called “LBJ Democrats,” her ideas would appear much more mainstream.

Birnberg and Rogers both said much of LaRouche’s economic thinking is in line with Franklin D. Roosevelt‘s, including investment in public works, separating commercial from investment banking and opposition to corporatism.

The reaction has died off justifiably so — a lot of bloggers connected to the area have thrown in their “Final word”.  As everyone paying attention to politics in Texas know, a Lyndon Larouche Youth Member by the name of Kesha Rogers, supporting a platform of Impeaching President Obama on a platform of cutting NASA funding and pushing a Health Care Agenda characterized as a direct copy of that implemented by Adolf Hitler.

Right there, on the most superficial look at the situation, Harris County Democratic party chairman Gerry Birnberg should be removed from his position.

I am actually rather circumspect and nonplussed by Kesha Rogers’s victory.  I had posted on factnet a sentence that this would be a year a Larouchie could sneak in a Democratic Primary victory — though, I did follow that with a sentence that they won’t.  Another poster, by the pseudonym “chator”, pointed out the fairly obvious that Kesha Rogers, running in a heavily Republican district with a Republican Incumbent and not well known Democratic contenders, was their best shot of the three Larouche Youth Members running — Summer Shields  against Nancy Pelosi and Rachel Brown against Barney Frank.  When I refer it as the best year it could happen, I refer to it in the same way that 2008 was the year a perenial idiosyncratic candidate Bob Kelleher had at winning a Republican nomination for US Senate in Montana.  Party fortunes are down.  If you wish to chalk up a primary reason for Doug Blatts defeat, it is simply that his election did not mean anything — he was likely primed for a lop-sided defeat to Pete Olsen, and thus he had few resources to turn to churn away at party Apathy against a Crowded Ballot.

Circumspectly, I don’t fault anyone — though I don’t blame anyone who might.  But I still retain a definite demand on how the Democratic Party should respond to the campaign of Kesha Rogers on behalf of the Lyndon Larouche Movement.  She should have no political party support of any type, and at any prompting a denunciation of her organization as a vicious demagogic cult.  I am in principle opposed to the idea being floated out there to remove her from the ballot in the same way the last Larouche Democratic candidate that pulled off a victory in Texas did — Claude Jones — though I admit that I am not all that strongly opposed.  Falling short of cutting all ties, Harris County Democratic County chairman offered the Lyndon Larouche Movement that line of support.

“One of the things the LaRouchites are able to do is to engage young people,” said Gerry Birnberg, chairman of the Harris County Democratic Party. “If she can turn out young people to vote for Democrats, all the better.”

Understand what these lines represent.  Gerry Birnberg has just thrown rhetorical support, useful for Larouche’s propaganda purposes in spurring forward his cadre of workers revved up to continually battle the onslaught of a “New Dark Ages”, to an organization I will now characterize in three ways.:

#1:  A Crypto – Fascist Personality Death Cult.
#2:  A multi level marketing Marketing Scam running off of political frustration
#3:  A long time pop cultural punch line.

My phrase “Crypto-Fascist Personality Death Cult” may sound a little like referring to something as “Poopy-heads”, but a quick look would show much the worse from the Larouche organization ala “Locusts”.  It may be that should leave out the “crypto” before “Fascist”, but I harbor a basic desire not to spot, even in extremities, an ideological spectrum.  “Personality cult” comes from the act the organization has had in convincing their small number of activists that Larouche is the most important person in all of Human History.  Their education studies amounts to sitting them at a metaphorical chair headed by Larouche and across from the likes of Franklin Roosevelt, Johannes Kepler, Gottfried Leibniz, Aristotle, Abraham Lincoln, and Fenimore Cooper to feel a part of the plotting strategy against a similar table where sits George Soros, Bertrand Russell, Queen Elizabeth, and Mark Twain — the forces trying to unleash a New Dark Ages.  That is how the organization “engages” “young people”.   I put the word “Death” in there as as we speak, Erica Duggan is attempting to convince the British Government to open up an investigation into the circumstances of her son’s death, a long process that has sparked the Larouche organization to blame it on Dick Cheney and Barronness Symons.  And I refer to the suicide of Printer Kenneth Kronberg upon reading a memo on the morning of April 11, 2007 directly blaming the organization’s misfortunes on the Baby Boomers, particularly the printer.  His widow has a lawsuit currently filed for the campaign commenced against her, fabricating her as the cause of Larouche’s Criminal Problems in the late 1980s.

Regarding the political multi-level Marketing Scam reference, the organization takes a special pride in the confusion garnered by their ideological chameleon act.  The one constant in 40 years has been their trading off on political frustrations and anger at the moment with raw, demagougic appeals.  As a rule, when they have meant to gain recruits — Kesha Rogers during the Bush Administration for instance, they have voiced concerns from the Left.  When they have meant to raise funds, they’ve appealed toward the right.  The logical result of the organization as marketing scam came when Larouche was charged and convicted of Credit Fraud in their dealings with elderly donors in particular, at that time with appeals such as a campaign to quarantine AIDs victims.

I don not expect Gerry Birnberg to have a ready knowledge on the history of the Lyndon Larouche organization.  Life is too short to maintain active awareness of a fringe cult.  I do expect him to be cognitive of what he endorses and condones.  On the most superficial level, this reaction to Kesha Rogers’s victory falls up against the broad cross-partisan (and across to England) reaction this election result has garnered: laughter.    I fail to see what good this endorsement makes.  We have a couple of Simpsons references, one Futurama joke, a Saturday Night Live parody, a reference in a comic book by Howard Chaykin, a joke made by Dennis Miller on Monday Night Football, and a pop cultural footnote reference list that goes on from there.

For comparison’s sake, at least any Republican official who hedged their bets in the early 1990s on the Senate and Gubernatorial nominations in Louisiana of David Duke would have done so with an electoral voting c0nstituency in their sight.  Further, from a purely superficial partisan level, the Larouche organization counts at this moment any Republican electoral victory, including Scott Brown’s in Massachusetts, as their personal victory and vindication that the “Masses” have turned to them.  A chair of a local Democratic Party should not be speaking favorably of an organization actively working to defeat the Democratic Party.

Birnberg said Rogers has much to commend her. He said his main objection to her candidacy is her association with LaRouche, and that if she instead held many of the same views but belonged to a group called “LBJ Democrats,” her ideas would appear much more mainstream.

The Larouche organization had previously siphoned themselves officially under a rubric of “FDR Democrats”, now they only do so unofficially.  I do not think it is wise to encourage a group to camouflage them under more favorable politicians.  I assume the reference to “Lyndon Johnson” is not merely an allusion to their shared first name, but also meant as a push-back to some of the characterizations of the locally popular issue with space exploration, as well a reference to the highest elected Texas Democrat.  But it is wholly inappropriate comparison.

Leaving aside the matter of the Vietnam War, Lyndon Johnson left behind the two major Domestic Achievements of the Civil Rights Act and Medicare.  When Lyndon Johnson used the phrase, “We Shall Overcome” to define his push for Civil Rights, Martin Luther King Jr reportedly choked up at the clear cut non-equivocating meaning.  Lyndon Johnson took a long poltical path to that point, that started with the customary Southern Democrat’s first Congressional floor speech defending Segregation, then later aligning himself to be picked for party leadership from the Southern Dixiecrat power-brokers (Richard Russell), and in pursuit of national office pushed through a weak civil rights bill in 1957, weak enough to pass Southern Dixiecrat muster.  From there he defined himself by picking up the somewhat undefined legacy of the assassinated John Kennedy and “Gave Up the South for the Democratic Party for a Generation”.  On the campaign trail in 1964, he deleiverd an anti-demagoic appeal in Louisiana with use of rather blunt language.
Lyndon Larouche’s civil rights legacy includes working with Ku Klux Klan leader Roy Frankhouser, and — when he decided the way to furbish his historic reputation amongst his cadre — recruiting two King disciples to suggest he was going through the same thing King went trhough.  One, James Bevel, stopped by the Larouche organization en route to Louis Farrahkan’s organization (and was later convicted of incest).  The other can be seen on a video at youtube giving effusive praise to President Barack Obama.

Regarding Medicare, the Larouche organization is clinging to the line that they are attacking the Obama administration’s Health Care policies from the Left.  I am fairly sure that a majority of Democrats would support an expanded Medicare program over Obama’s health policy.  But I am also pretty certain that the Larouche organization would peg such a policy push as out of Nazi Germany, for the same reason they are pegging the current policy push as out of Nazi Germany.  It maintains the organizations’s sense of fighting on the Eve of Armegeddon, and aligns them with polarized political forces.
Noted too that the Larouche organization has cut out their employees’s Health Care Plans, and moved a lot of their people to the ranks of “Volunteer”.

I do not blame this embarrassing election result on anybody.  Embarrassing election results happen in every election cycle in a lot of low impact elections.  This one is perhaps a bit more embarrassing as it comes attached with a rather vicious highly demagogic  organization, and is not entertained by a single idiosyncratic person.
What am I to make of Gerry Birnberg’s qualified condonings?  They strike me as disqualifications for his job.

Kesha Rogers to provide crucial 218th vote for Obama Impeachment over NASA defunding

Wednesday, March 3rd, 2010

… or more likely, the General Election will come, Kesha Rogers will win 15 or so percent of the vote against Pete Olson’s 70 and a feeble write in bid’s 15, and Kesha’s sponsors with the Larouche organization will claim victory that night with the on going mass strike as the Democrats lose 20 House seats.  (Hell.  Make that 50 and a Speaker Boehner.  I don’t care, so far as this topic goes.)

Most importantly, some funds will slush through with the twin dualities of impeaching Obama (there’s an audience) and refunding NASA (there’s a different audience, and concentrated in this district.  The Larouche honchos — quick!  What’s that name I can’t think of right now — the guy in Texas right now — holds all those classes. — knew what they were doing, and I knew what they were doing.)

It is moderatly surprising, though not jaw droppingly so.  We knew that of the three Larouche Youth Candidates, this one was the one that had the best chance to pull the “Illinois 1986″.  I will have Kesha Rogers to kick around until November — meaning I may as well start getting her name right.  It is a bug in our electioning system, but in this case not a very big bug.  This is fairly low impact — for comparison’s sake to the great Larouche Illinois victories of 1986, Kesha Rogers is Janice Hart, the Treasurer victor easily lumped away in any Democratic Voting function, and not Mark Fairchild, the Lt Governor candidate who doomed Adlai Stevenson III’s run as he was election-wise now tied to him.

Under came in secondAND:
Yesterday was election day in Texas, and I voted.  And I voted.  And then I voted some more.  If my count was correct, I voted fifty-two times. [..]
But this is ridiculous.  The correct word for most of the elections that happened in Texas today, and that happen in primary elections around the nation all spring and summer this year, is farce.  No one has any idea what they’re doing (especially in primaries, and in nonpartisan elections, in which you don’t even get a useful cue about what to do).

A good chance to mock Texas in general.  And for the larouchies to call the cull of sort of wacky “human interest” stories this election result pops up as “Hit pieces”.  (Oh my god, are you kidding me?  TIME FOR TRUTH makes an appearance, from vintage “Time for Truth Factnet posting” days!!!)

Noted that Kesha Rogers now enjoys a wikipedia page, thanks to a person who apparently has an interest in odd politics.  That makes sense.  More interesting, if you go to the “Jeremiah Duggan” page history , you see some very recent change attempts from someone with the id of “DraftCB”, who is apparently a “sock puppet” of a banned user “Soledad22″.  I don’t know my Draftcbs or my Soledad22s, but it is funny how a lot of new identities of sock puppets sure take active interest in setting up their wares to sell or guard the Larouche empire at wikipedia.

The edits appear to be something in the vein of silverchild:

This article is full of plain old lies, but what would one expect from a British newspaper? […]
As for Jeremy Duggan, it is a terrible tragedy that he took his own life, but to blame it on LaRouche is insanely false and totally politically motivated! The kid had a history of depression, prescription drug use, and psychological problems-due in some part to his parents’ divorce. His mother knows that, but she was manipulated into defaming and blaming LaRouche by Baroness Liz Symons, a friend of Lyn Cheney, the wife of former VP Dirty Dick Cheney.

Deep in their heart and guts, what percentage of Larouche members trully believe that Dick Cheney had anything to do with Jeremiah Duggan?


This is a valid point, as are the Action Group’s criticisms of the court and criminal justice system for failing to establish a wider responsibility that went beyond the actions of the actual murderer. Both these points need to be put in context. Germany has a long history of neo-nazi violence, with victims ranging from the homeless, left-wingers, asylum seekers, migrants, black people and other non-white German citizens. Case after case from the Lübeck fire (1996)[1], to the hounding to death of the Algerian asylum seeker, Farid Guendoul (2000)[2], to the death in disturbing circumstances of the British Jewish student Jeremiah Duggan (2003)[3], have revealed a pattern of neglect – what we in the UK might call institutionalised racism – by both the police and the public prosecution service. This pattern ranges from the bringing of inappropriate charges, (manslaughter is often substituted for murder), flawed prosecutions (public prosecutors have been known to refuse to allow evidence of racist background to be heard), lenient sentencing as well as failure to develop a victim’s perspective on extreme-right violence. (There has been criticism, for instance, of the lack of compensation for the victims of racism.) And it is not just academics who are suffering from the knee-jerk reaction of police officers to file suits for slander. Amnesty International has documented a pattern whereby those who allege police racism find themselves served with a counter-accusation of insulting and slandering police officers.

One can only hope that this misguided court case against Dr Sabine Schiffer will finally bring issues of institutionalised racism within the German criminal justice system to the fore.

the congressional campaigns of Keesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, and Summer Shields: Let’s Impeach the President for ending a Space mission the public is not paying attention toward.

Friday, February 26th, 2010

Every large-scale movement has disparate forces and peripheral players that are not central to the causes and concerns of most activists. While they deserve some mention, journalists should also maintain a sense of perspective so that readers are properly informed about overall tone and direction of the political forces at work. […] Tea Party Activists Interlinked with Aryan Nation, John Birchers, Lyndon LaRouche.

As too:
Lately people have been appearing at meetings with posters of Obama as Hitler. Some of these posters came from the followers of Lyndon LaRouche. One can only wonder who gave the cash-strapped LaRouche movement money for the vile signs. The inclusion of the LaRouchists in the rightist anti-Obama coalition underscores a decision to draw more upon the growing far-right fringe groups.
Not really a decision on their part.  The Larouchists I mean.  To dispute, and arguably the thrust is about the same but with a different political viewpoint.
The left has a political interest in defining the broad backlash against expanded government as identical to the worst elements of the Tea Party movement — birthers and Birchers, militias and nativists, racists and conspiracy theorists, acolytes of Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo and Lyndon LaRouche.
You know, Ron Paul did just win the CPAC presidential straw poll.  Also, I can’t categorize “Ron Paul” as wholly negative an element.  Tom Tancredo addressed the Tea Party convention.  What do you want from me?  I guess the only real demand on me is to differentiate a cult from a, quote-in-quote “cult”.  See Bill Maher, look the video up for this transcript — key reference in script:
[slide of Obama with Hitler mustache.].


LaRoucheisright SaysFebruary 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm Lyndon Larouche is the only one who knows what to do now. Check the vids on my channel, or go straigt to the LaRouche youth movement news page larouchepacdotcom and read the breaking developements, or listen to one of the webcasts.

All right.  Activitate.  Taking on the Haiti tragedy:

During the question and answer period, LaRouche PAC representative Shannon Chew, intervened into what had otherwise been an attempt by the relevant panelist, Rev. Thomas Streit, to cover over the immense biological disaster befalling disaster stricken Haiti, now. Chew forcefully introduced the reasons why Lyndon LaRouche’s Army Corps of Engineers-style relocation and evacuation of lower-elevation city denizens, is absolutely necessary to avert a potential biological holocaust. This met with initial speechlessness and shock from the crowd, and the panelists, too, who decided to take it as a statement for the record.

They sat there, speechless.  Shocked and stunned.  FANTASTIC!
Mostly they just have some things to write out on the placard dropping from their card-tables to confuse stray passerbyers that this might be a Haiti Aid project, incurring stray donations.  They resemble nothing so much as the Scientologists in exploiting these tragedies, and internalizing stories about action.

As Lyndon LaRouche emphasized on Wednesday, there is currently a concatenation of events which must merge to force the impeachment or resignation under threat of impeachment of President Barack Obama within a matter of the next two or three weeks if civilization is to have any chance of surviving. LaRouche’s own call for Obama’s impeachment is the crucial initiative necessary to bring the growing revolt against Obama’s policies to the necessary deliberate conclusion in time.

As LaRouche has said, we need a great U-turn. As long as Obama is still President, nothing will be capable of being done to save this country or civilization.

Yesterday’s so-called Health Summit was a case in point. A new CNN poll shows that at most 25 percent of the US population supports the Obama Senate bill. And yet Obama remains completely committed to ramming this fascist bill through using the so-called reconciliation process in the Senate, despite the fact that to do so violates the fundamental Constitutional principle of the mass strike underway in the U.S. today—the principle that all legislation is only legitimate if it receives the consent of the governed.

Suppose it’s true.  Suppose the president passes through the Congress a policy that is the most hated and reviled policy in the history of Human Civilization, against a backdrop of protests that represent the fervant desires of 80 percent of the public.  Unpopularity and Unpopular Policies is not grounds for Impeachment, lest we end up jettisoning every single president in American history.  It is a stringing attachment to a fringe and incoherent political position.

Suppose, also, that we follow through with Impeachment for the following reason.

Rep. Pete Olson (R-TX) vowed earlier this week to fight for Constellation in Congress as the FY11 budget works its way through the House. “Congress is going to challenge this plan,” the Houston Chronicle quotes Olson as saying at a meeting Wednesday. However, that’s mild compared to what one potential Democratic challenger says should be done. “If you want to save NASA, call for the impeachment of Obama,” said Kesha Rogers, a candidate in the Democratic primary in the 22nd district, which Olson now represents. Rogers is linked to Lyndon LaRouche, who made a similar call for the president’s impeachment because of his NASA policy earlier this month.

Suppose the Republicans in Congress decide that they will now, at this date, make their focal electoral and political strategy the Impeachment of President Barack Obama based on Obama’s short-changing  the NASA budget and cutting a mission…

… as the principle item of Impeachment — Cutting the NASA budget…

Do you have any idea what would happen?  Mitch McConnell goes on the Sunday talk shows and hammers home the NASA related Impeachment plans.  Every Republican Congressional candidates puts this at the very top of their proposal lists.  Do you know what the result would be?
Basically, the Democrats — right now poised to lose a boatful of seats in the November mid-term election, would win.  Every seat, basically.  And I mean that.

The situation is on a very short political fuse. Many will get caught up in the predicates and balk at the necessary action. (Indeed.)  Our job is to kick against the pricks of pragmatism and provide the necessary leadership. Impeach Obama now!

The question for this story.

thatone says: February 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Why even give serious journalistic coverage to these loons? Followers of Lyndon Larouche? Really?!?! These Hitler comparisons are so offensive I don’t even know where to start. What in anything Obama has ever done suggests he is going to gas millions of men, women, and children to create a master race? Before you sign a petition like that, do some research. Is anyone paying attention to facts anymore? Stop getting sound bites from entertainers pretending to be newscasters.

Which tends to dove-tail into this perenial commentary.

Trilateral Commission wrote @ February 19th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Heavens, for all these years I thought Lyndon LaRouche had become wormfood over two decades ago. He’s not endorsing candidates (Democrats no less?!) from beyond the grave now is he?
That is pretty much the case.  AND
I keep hearing about all the outrage over shutting down of constellation and how this is President Obama’s waterloo but both the numbers of comments and the number of negative comments to me shows a general public not even in tune or aware of the controversy. Tiger Woods articles get more attention then a NASA “back to the moon” one.
The recent teaparty conventions and the republican one just held did not even show a NASA/shuttle/constellation poster at all that I saw. As far as everything i could find about them online.
Once again I am baffled by those posters here talking about the outrage over the death of constellation. The only “outrage” seems to be from representatives and senators of 4-6 states with vested interests in their state’s job picture and their articles in newspapers do not even get any comments.

But I expect that if this page and this article had a comments section, it would attract a call for Obama’s Impeachment and call for Larouche’s phony “4 Power Alliance”.

Hey!  Here’s a stray Webster Tarpley mention.  Russia Today interviews him on some exciting new conspiracy theories.  Of course:
I doubt it, he has already been discredited because he was in the LaRouche Movement. LaRouche is a shady individual. He can speak the truth he can be screamed down by the mainstream and left-wing press. He is saying nothing new here, the military-industrial will run the entire world into the ground. Better to fight it than live on your knees waiting for the big Mushroom cloud this idiot network wants.
I bring up Webster Tarpley to get back over to some reaction to the Larouche slate of candidates, this blog deigns to accumulate supposed “Birther” candidates.  They bring up the candidacy of one Rachel Brown.  I do not believe it is fair to say she is a birther.  I haven’t seen any birther comment coming out of the quotation marks ascribed to her leader in Leesburg.
Webster Tarpley has entertained the idea, though, for I gather fun and profit.  Interviewed Orly Taitz.  Sheesh — for I know Orly Taitz has an Internet Broadcast and has interviewed him.
But the thing is… these terms are getting thrown out with no meaning attached to them.  “Birther” has become a catch-all term.  So, this guy — in a ghost comment from 2004 pulled to some echo blog post in 2010, is now a Birther.
Or sell it hereI am so glad i was born in England, the rulers of the world!\

You know, now that I think about it… sparred from this comment:

On no Mr. T in DC, you’re wrong. They were out there trying to convince the public Pres. Obama is the one true descendant of Hitler. Notice the physical similarities? LOL!

… I’m tempted to ask how far that would get in a congressional campaign, but I guess that is the purpose and test of the congressional campaigns of Rachel Brown, Keesha Rogers, and Summer Shields.  That and to give these people something to do or other.    (NO!  Here’s your “Summer Shields for Congress” Campaign staff at work!)

Or to get a sentence or two into stories like this, and compete against this:

How could you go wrong voting for a guy whose qualifications include experience designing killer robots?
Gets them exposure, don’t it?

Her website says she wants to impeach Obama for ending the NASA moon program?! That’s the meme?
Comment by David Stephenson

The meme is “dining room table.”

In any event, LaRouchies don’t really care about the noble adventure of space exploration. They just want the damned Helium-3 from the moon. They’re afraid the Chinese will get it first.

… Not true.  They want a four party alliance to get the Helim-3.