From comments section of a page I link below.
Isn’t LaRouche dead yet? — Posted by You Look Like I Need A Drink!
And yet. Here I am again. Indefatiguable. Looking at the Pechenuks, the Howie Gs. Sorting through the margin. Searching for meaning where there just might be no meaning.
Item the First. Some chaos in Illinois. The Democratic Gubernatorial candidate finds himself with an unwelcome lieutenant gubernatorial candidate.
This, I think, is a serious flaw in the Illinois electoral system. Fluke and unwelcome nominations happen all the time in these United States — i’s just that they’re disregarded relatively easily, even if they screw up one or the other party’s plans. I can point to two examples in 2008 of state wide nominations for the US Senate. Perennial hobby candidate Bob Kelleher won the Republican Senate nomination in Montana, meaning the fifteenth time was the charm after a bi-annual placing on the ballot as Democrat and Green. To believe his selection was not a fluke is to believe Montana Republicans cottoned to his platform of socialized health care, a European parliamentary system, and banning Abortion. In reality, his nomination was basically about the same as the 1986 Illinois Democratic nominations of two nutcase Larouchies for State Treasurer and Lieutenant Governor — the two state legislators vying for the nomination (and popping up on the NRSC website) had low name recognition, and to the extent that they were known had high disapprovals within a low impact election — Kelleher, meanwhile, had developed an unconcious name familiarity from his frequent appearance on the ballot (the “Smooth names” of 1986′s Illinois duo). The Republicans weren’t investing anything into anyone’s win, and Kelleher never made an appearance on the NRSC website.
Meanwhile, in South Carolina a man who just attached himself to the letter “D” and was keen on Ron Paul was nominated the Democrats’ candidate for the US Senate. This race was somewhat interesting to note, because he showed up in the polls within 8 and 9 points — he of a $300 warchest against Lindsey Graham‘s entrenched millions. He ended with a fairly predictable 15 percent margin, and I am one to believe no amount of money would have changed that result.
Meanwhile, Illinois has set up a system where a man who ekes through in a crowded field off has to run with the legitimate pol. Perhaps this is divine retribution due to the corrupt nature of said “legitimate pol”s — the indicted George Ryan, the indicted Governor Rod Blagojevich.
So, the reprise of 1986.
Former U.S. Sen. Adlai Stevenson — who formed a third party to run for governor in 1986 rather than share the same ticket as two disciples of Lyndon H. LaRouche — said Gov. Quinn faces the same political reality in dealing with running mate Scott Lee Cohen.
“It would be very difficult for Pat Quinn, in good conscience, to run for governor with this fellow tied to him as if they’re joined at the hip,” Stevenson told the Sun-Times today.
“One answer is to do what I did, namely to resign the nomination and run as an independent with a different lieutenant governor candidate,” he said. “Of course, they can try to talk [Cohen] out of it, but I’m skeptical as to whether that would work.”
Stevenson, who won the Democratic gubernatorial primary in 1986, formed the Solidarity Party rather than run with a LaRouche-backed lieutenant governor candidate, Mark Fairchild.
Stevenson wound up losing the general election to Republican Gov. James Thompson, who got 1.65 million votes to the 1.25 million that went to Stevenson and his Solidarity Party candidacy. Another 208,830 votes were cast for the Democratic governor’s slot that Stevenson vacated.
Of course, Adlai Stevenson III went on to lose that race. (And really — isn’t there something about considering here “Adlai Stevenson III” somehow show the problem and indictment of how large numbers of someones might roll past the establishment picks and settle for the protest candidate they’ve never heard of?) But, I guess Stevenson lost with integrity instead of losing with a cult.
Let’s now turn to Gerald Pechenuk’s alternative universe of events — and I would like to know on what planet does he spend his days?
FYI, Adlai Stevenson was threatened by the late Senator Paul Simon among others, with being called a neo-Nazi if he stuck on the ticket with LaRouche. That statment can be verified by looking at an interview Adlai did with a Burlington, Vermont paper after his sanctimonious fall.
FYI, If Adlai had not succumbed to the threats, he most likely would have become Governor and then gone on to secure the Democratic Presidential nomination and ACTUALLY BECOME PRESIDENT!!!
Now, what this means is that Mark Fairchild, LaRouche Democrat, would have become Lieut. Gov, which means that Adlai Stevenson would have had the benefit of the knowledge and wisdom of Lyndon LaRouche, the world’s foremost American System physical economist, and the author today of the new 4 Power Alliance of India, China, Russia, and the US, a budding alliance to rebuild the collapsed world economy with a new credit system to replace the dead, bankrupt Anglo-Dutch globalization system which has died and whose PRIVATE GAMBLING DEBTS are presently being bailed out with TRILLIONS of dollars of PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS ILLEGALLY!!!Conclusion, We could have avoided the last 20 plus years leading to economic disaster, had LaRouche been brought onto the scene back in the 1980’s, which was what the results of the Illinois Primary and Many Others that year should have resulted in……….
So, listen to LaRouche NOW, and quit listening to bankrupt idiots…. Gerald Pechenuk, LaRouche PAC
Just think. One departure was missed in parallel universes of how Larouche might have been brought to power, but for the exacting influence of Paul Simon and his British legions! (But. Wait. Didn’t he have oh so much influence in the Clinton administration?) OR… To rebut on the main thrust of his suggestion, turn to the Stevenson comment story.
Item the Second.
I may as well mention there that I was going to pull out David Duke’s two Republican nominations in Louisiana in the early 1990s as an example for Item the First, but upon consideration, I have to conclude that sadly those weren’t really “flukes”. The electorate that selected Duke knew roughly what they were doing.
Meanwhile, the Tea Party Convention started with this throw-back to the days of Jim Crow.
Item the Third. Digging through the comments relating to Henry Gasparian , the 70+ year old who slapped some Larouche members upset at their Hitler signs…
… I’m mostly unimpressed. But it’s worth pointing at for Pechenuk, who seems to think Larouche is making strides with the youth (You might actually have to read some of Mr. Larouche and actually think, for a change, and then SEE what world leaders, including people in the US, SEE in Larouche, and SEE what the young people SEE in LaRouche, because your old SORE ASS smart aleck bullshit don’t count for a nickel, any more…..), the comments and poll at the Stranger. Beyond that generic mention, I throw out this comment.
The Ladouche clan is just another multi level marketing scheme that uses very unintelligent young people who are willing to enrich old Lyndon the liar for free,
Ironic that Lyndon has been a commie, a right winger, a left winger, and everything else in his byzantine career. He is the ultimate political opportunist. Anything for a shock. [...]
Basically, but not entirely. I’ve seen that sentiment expressed in that way, have posted it before. There’s slightly more, of course — wade through the anti-semitism ( “Hey! Isn’t Jeffry Steinberg Jewish?”) — and I’d be remiss if I didn’t go ahead and link to Dennis King linking to “earnest one” on his brother’s — Jonathan Tennenbaum – culpability in covering up on the death of Jeremiah Duggan.
Down a ways, I see the more partisan hackery and shallow mention of “inconvenient truth to the ‘Leftists’! Larouche is a DEM!” Bleh. I suppose I should mention I sliced off the last sentence of the “marketing scam” comment to evade the stink bomb throwing.
[(Good luck to these people. They're wasting their time.]
It appears from this LPAC release that the Larouche org is poised to make hay, for internal consumption, a rallying arouallying with the Republican Party to defeat “Obama Corruption”…. see the final paragraph, which quotes the RNC.
Item the Fourth. The Seattle Times article comments include a couple of youtube videos — one of the SNL skit and the other a 1980 anti-environmentalist ad. LINKS here and here. I high-light a few interesting and bemusing comments. And you can play along at home with the game “Larouche Zombie, actively anti-Larouche, or amused passively anti-Larouche?)
plasticman1973 LOL, it’s funny and it sounds outrageous for those who don’t know the facts. I like the queen preparing the heroine though. Kissinger a homo? lol.
azezel2311 He does like to ramble. Scary thing is we seem to be on the same mindset. Minus the british empire. The brits could actually drive positive change if they wanted to. You just have to give them something new to go after. Something that they would have to build others up for in order to stand on them and get there…. Have we found that planet that is half gold and half diamond yet?
kappy0405 yup – kissinger and david rockefeller are just a few of the people who speak OPENLY about pop reduction. Leave it to SNL to ignore facts and cater to the Fox News/CNN mindset. :rolleyes:
Oh well, people ARE finally are waking up. (… And it only took 24 years…)
kanalje this is amazing in a weird way. It’s like they are doing his bidding with this parody. It is not unlike the parody style of larouchies.
unityrover Come for the Larouche, stay for the DANZA!!!
Trapster99 Well, I believed in all the lies said about Larouch, until I did a little research and found this great man’s mind.
He is a modern day Ben Franklin.
Want to solve most of America’s problems, right now?
Build 100 brand new, state of the art, high temprature Pebble Bed nuclear reactors (2 in each state).
That will employ 2 million people directly and indirectly. It will solve a host of environmental problems and it will make energy cheep across the land.
3 Mi Island was sabotaged.
terpis Hard to figure why a slick ad like that didn’t do the trick.
ITEM THE FIFTH. Call me crazy, but I tend to think Obama will likely win a second term. If you’re wondering about the qualifiers, it’s because I’m not setting such a prediction in stone. Also his party will suffer significant losses in the mid-term elections. That is the norm, the electorate that voted in the candidate falls back as somehow the magic pixie dust doesn’t alleviate all that ails them, and the electorate that voted against them steps forward and entrenches themselves. There are things the in-party can do to shrink their losses, and things they can do to increase their losses — the Democrats appear to have gone the latter route. I could go on and explain some things about the purely politikal plusses and minuses of Republican positioning, but this is losing focus.
Now, I’m reading through this sort of predictable and cyclical mess from LPAC and associates to… what? End the Obama Presidency somehow or other? A few asides tossed in, and I thought I saw a floating of the “British may axe him” thing.
I caught ol Rush Limbaugh muttering about Hillary Clinton shifting up a run against this oh-so-wholly broken Obama Administration. It’s an item mostly pulled out his arsh, but it’s a meme that I see floated about every so often. Being make-believe Clintonistas, I expect to see LPAC releases to that effect sooner or later, based on supposed insider information.
But it also occurs to me, recalling the 2008 nominating fight, fully behind Clinton was the Larouche organization. The nominating battle fell to this stasis where every single state contest result was easily forecasted right through the end. And it was there that LPAC commented on the results of Oregon and Wast Virginia, incongruently (go down the batch of Larouche PUMA material in the comments section here).
Despite the desperate assertions and wishful thinking of the pundits, as well as of the Obama campaign, that the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination is all but over, voters in both Kentucky and Oregon turned out to vote in large numbers on May 20, delivering another landslide victory for Hillary Clinton in Kentucky. In Oregon, although Barack Obama won (as expected), he did so with a far narrower gap between himself and Mrs. Clinton than had been projected.
Steam-rolling ahead, I guess, somewhere beyond Hillary’s talking points. This made no sense — the totals were roughly what was expected.
This wraps back around to the 2010 mid-term elections, which Larouche Inc is gearing up with as part of a “mass strike”, because their post-election release won’t differ much whether the Democrats lose 2 Senate Seats and 2 House Seats, or lose 10 Senate Seats and 50 House seats.
Incidentally, as I see Larouche drop a pile on Obama’s NASA mission plans — I guess in concert with the election campaign of Keesha Rogers– I note that Buzz Aldrin has his back.
Also, they’re scouting out for Gold Bugs here.