or it might be Chris Christie’s budget cuts.  Either one doesn’t make all that much difference to the total effect.
Hitler has long turned into something of largely an item for farce, something that happens with time which has its good and bad points.  It is how the Larouchies can float the “Obama — Hitler” image (with countless precedents) with a mere ripple of attention, even while they whole-heartedly — and insanely — believe in their equivalence.  For every Henry Gasparin — with an understandable disgust for the equivalence — there’s the rest whos reaction is on par with the Saturday Night Live skit on “What if Superman had grown up in Germany?”  (Ironic, of sorts.)

Get into some specifics, and we may end up less inured, less de-sensitized to this insanity.  Here we see the Larouchies, and more specifically the New Jersey local and the Diane Sare for Congress campaign, moving the Crazy Dial Up to 11.

Christie townhall attracts LaRouchers, leaves via helicopter. Why run for president? Living it. Flash mobs started out as a fresh, fun  idea that sought to spread joy with their unexpected entertainment, but lefties are so totally ruining it with their lame copy-cat protests. According to New Jersey.com, the protesters were La Rouchies.  Fair Lawn police ejected from the building a small LaRouche group, including a woman who wants to run for Congress in the 5th District, while they were trying to sing their anthem. Protesters escorted out of Gov. Chris Christie’s town hall event are linked to congressional candidate Diane Sare and are supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche. They were removed today from the event after they refused to stop singing loudly about being sent to Auschwitz. It appears to be the first time people have been asked to leave by police at a Christie town hall.

Comment that is useful for added context.:  Fairlawn is a heavily Jewish town. Auschwitz references were not accidental. Judging from callers to Christie-friendly NJ 101.5 FM locals didn’t like those references at all.…

Sure, we can put it into “part of the spectacle”.  We can also play a game with them for Partisan Advantage and Hypocrisy. Witness…

I can’t hear what the mob is singing at all, but according to this Fox News report it was something involving Auschwitz? Really? So they’re comparing Christie to Hitler…again. Nice.
All the more reason to say this was a perfect, calm response to a dopey liberal stunt. Another win for Christie.

Meantime, Fox News reports it — “linked to Democratic candidate for Congress”.  Interestingly, when Bill O’Reilly wanted to slam Barney Frank at the time of Rachel Brown’s instigators, O’Reilly had to dove-tail back to his report and offered the caveat, “But she was an activist” with an agenda.  The main problem with these things, for a charge of a double standard is seen with this comment.

And funny how the media is very careful to identify the offenders as LaRouchies, a courtesy they didn’t extend to the Tea Party when those kooks showed up with the now famous “Obama with Hitler mustache” posters.
In the scheme of “Don’t Hate the Media, Be the Media“, I will point out that this particular slice of the meida — the Weasel Zipper blog–  failed to clearly identify the Larouchies as separate from the Unions.

In the category of inappropriate humor.:
Maybe they should have herded all the pro union people that were there, into another room, sealed it off, and turned the gas on. Wanna sing about Auschwitz now??? Jerks…

AND… I don’t know if this person will claim the Larouchies were trying to de-legitimize the tea party?

More evenly with this topic.:
Legitimate protesters with rational messages are cringing today, after learning that wackjob supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche were thrown out of Gov. Chris Christie’s 20th town hall forum of the year. Police bounced them from the jam-packed Fair Lawn Community Center on Wednesday after they refused to stop singing loudly about being sent to Auschwitz. We’ve noticed a recent uptick in the number of idiots using Nazism as a touch point to get their message across. That needs to stop.

Here’s the Larouche response, from Margarette:  What a bunch of fools all of you are! The singers were singing about how Christie is the same as Obama! Governor Christie, the fat shlubba, in a campaign ad before he ran for Gov, ENDORSED OBAMA’S GREEN ENERGY POLICY, and proposed windmills and solar panels for NJ! The folks who were singing at this town meeting are promoting NUCLEAR POWER-THEY ARE NOT LIBERALS!
Furthermore, what Obama, and Christie, and all the budget slashing Governors are doing, is absolutely NAZI! Try reading and studying history instead of listening to FOX or NPR or whatever crap is brainwashing you!

All right!  Fox News AND NPR or whatever crap!
Understand, this is how that site — of a mass of people cheering while they were being booted out the door — quite a number cheering falling in the 47 percent line of the approval / disapproval number — is being relayed to the larouche movement.
In line with Lyndon LaRouche’s latest political and economic forecast, the state of New Jersey has now entered into a new phase of mass-strike protest

Just not being reported on NPR and Fox News.
One thing they’re good thing this is good for, I suppose — is a discussion of Godwin’s Law.

The LaRouchies seem to see Hitler in everyone. Sometimes I suspect they’re projecting. Back to reality, this behavior by Obama does strike me as odd.[…]

I’m not a fan of LaRouche but, there is some truth to his position. Like Hitler, Obama is [etc]

“But I play one on tv”.

Another good thing the Larouchies are good for — Finding your Writing Voice!

Diana Shellenberger:  Figuring out what kind of writer you are is critical to discovering your true voice, the one that comes out naturally. I remember one of the first times that happened as an adult. I was in a magazine writing class where we were required to write three articles over the course of the semester, along with doing market research and writing cover letters to actual publications. I had written an article on Lyndon La Rouche—remember him? the tax-evading perennial presidential candidate? One of my classmates observed in the critique of my article that she could hear my voice—sarcastic and conversational. That meant I’d done my job. In that piece I had managed to break down the barrier between my speaking and thinking voice and my writing voice. I would encourage you to look for the same markers in your own writing. The more you bring yourself into your writing, the better it will be. Not your idealized self, but you as you are. I’m not so sure I want to own the sarcastic part of my voice, but it’s there, and it works, because it’s me.

[hm]

The Larouche organization is running six candidates for Congress for 2012.  This is up from, depending on how you count, the two or three candidates they ran in 2010.  There are Kesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, Summer Shields, Dave Christie, Diane Sare, and Bill Roberts.  Running for office with your name on the ballot, gives a candidate some minimal media attention.   As this Town Hall meeting exercise is a tactic for the organization, and as these six individuals have been moved front and center as the organization’s representatives at these townhall meetings, I imagine in the coming year, media outlets will find themselves with a few more moments like this.

More pointedly, in 2010 the two congressional campaigns gave the Larouchies two political debates.  Barney Frank stated about his debate with Rachel Brown that he never refuses a debate with anyone — a matter which caused some griping by his Republican general election foe for wanting to include minor party candidates — so it looks as though a Rachel Brown primary candidacy equals a Barney Frank — Rachel Brown debate.  It is not out of the realm of possibilities that Kesha Rogers could win her nomination again — the Democratic Party would not like to think about this district — which would mean another Public Broadcasting debate.

The debate moderators have a bit of a hard task with the Larouche candidates and what to do with them — you can more or less pick an item out at random from the Larouche org’s Collected Works and have something which is electorally disqualifying.  As it were, Rachel Brown and Kesha Rogers got out pretty darned easy in their debates, the debate moderators not really wanting to spend their time on irrelevant Larouche figures and tracking back to a sort of humoring of them, bemused eyebrow raising on how a quick relocation exercise to Mars will save humanity.

The Media of New Jersey in particular but the various other states at these moments, in debate circumstance or newspaper endorsement interview or the general campaign events — and the Democratic Party for the various counties’ candidate appearances (where Larouchies have been given a seat in the past — to mocking audiences, for instance, laughing at Rachel Brown while eating a dinner and waiting for Barney Frank) would do well to pose the question — “What, in particular, were you (or your fellow Larouchie candidate) comparing to Auschwitz, and would you like to back-track right now for the comparison?”
If they were real candidates, they would be asked that question.

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The World is Full of Anti-Larouche Trollers full of “30 Year Old Slanders”…

The problem with Raymond-the-rambler’s comments is that they are not genuine, but some kind of anti-LaRouche troller who skims the internet to post 30 year-old slanders as an “expert” comment-er. He clearly is behind the times. What would Ray-ramble say to the NY Times Joe Nocera who just wrote “The Banking Miracle” on Glass-Steagall? What would he say to the NJ AFL-CIO which just passed a resolution endorsing the same thing that Ms. Mallory was speaking to the council about? How about the 17 congresspeople who co-sponsored this legislation? Are they all kooks who were bamboozled by a loon?
Glass Steagall = Good.  Larouchies = Bad.  More can be seen in the comment that this was an answer to, (SIC):
Many people don’t know about this woman’s antics. She has been making accusations against all government agencies since she ran for Congress in 1994. I think the 4% of the vote she got then and the physical altercation over her protest of the Healthcare reform may speak volumes for her desire to create chaos, not solutions.
Local Lansdale Borough Government has about as much influence as the North Penn Student Council, but I am sure she would want their backing too. Build a small truth of having government bnacking.
As seen in their tactics, they are sending local supporters out to local meetings to get this in the news.
His supporters and organizations were the same who made alligations that the Queen and Britian control world finances, drugs. That the VT shooter was addicted to First person shooting games and even when they proved he played mostly non-violent games, there was no aknowledgement. They also pushed supporters in the mid 80’s to keep AIDS infected kids out of school pushing information that AIDS was passed by casual contact even after information about it’s real method of tranmittal was known.
Any more time to these people is only going to help spread disinformation and false data.

Though, the disinformation they spread is to their followers, and somehow dovetails back to the response to Raymond’s initial comment.:

Senior U.S. intelligence officials, along with leading figures within the Democratic Party, have warned that the Obama White House is in the process of launching a massive dirty operations campaign against Lyndon LaRouche and associates. […]
Leading Democratic Party figures explained this bizarre behavior from the standpoint that the Democrats fear that the demise of President Obama will bring Lyndon LaRouche to the fore as the only serious political leader who dared speak the truth about Obama and his British controllers. So, in effect, Reid, Boxer and Pelosi fell on the sword, in defending the President’s indefensible behavior on the Libya war, out of fear of LaRouche’s emergence as a folk hero and a leader of a movement for a revolutionary change in U.S. policy—beginning with the passage of the Glass-Steagall restoration, now pending before the House in H.R. 1489. This act of near political suicide on the part of Reid, Boxer and Pelosi was one of the first public signals that the White House has launched illegal operations against the LaRouche organization.

To be sure, here’s how one Larouche supporter sees things coming down the pike.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich has a democratic transitional view of the nation. Political maverick Lyndon LaRouche has an oligarchical present view of the nation. Rep. Ron Paul has a republican future view of the nation. The three together are emerging as a potential potent ruling American presidential troika in a post-Obama interlude leading up to the federal elections of 2012.
Mr. Kucinich fills the role of President, Mr. Paul the role of Vice-President and Mr. LaRouche the role of senior economic advisor to the Presidency. The morality and ethics of Representatives Kucinich and Paul are beyond reproach. LaRouche’s scientifically-grounded creative ideology perfectly complements Kucinich’s high moral ground and Paul’s high ethical standards.

One reason, dear Raymond, for the putting about for Glass Steagall Resolutions at any place they find — in addition to suggesting an “in” with the AFL-CIO they’re about to embarrass at a town hall, is to give an answer for this situation.

Who the heck is he? never heard of him before, yet he has been a politician for well over 30 years. I got in a small debate with some LaRouche supporters trying to raise money in front of the courthouse on will clayton last night.
according to them, Obama is controlled by the queen of england?[…]
it seems to me that they really don’t want to change or accomplish anything other than you donate to his campign fund. I have asked them what bills I need to call my reps and ask them to vote for, and if they had a petition to sign, and nothing, but they were very adiment that I “pledge” some money to dethrone obama.
thought LaRouche always ran for the communist party, let me google that. […]
sounds like another life long politician to me.
While keeping a hand in many a pot…  Communist and Libertarian!
He is the founder of the “libertarian party” and is pretty much considered a kook. I believe he actually ran for president.
AND… er… via Harley Schlanger’s frequent appearances with Dr. Deagle… The Jehovah’s Witness Party!

The “Ready for Hitler Coup” is getting play at Godlike Productions and “Patriot Action Network.” — Not yet Iranian Press TV, but it’s floating there against the backdrop.

Also amongst Texas secessionists. And there’s that 144,000 figure again.

Since it is inevitable that the current U.S. President Barack Obama has no chance of being re-elected under what might be called a “democratic election-process,” and since President Obama is essentially a puppet of the British monarchy, bought and paid for in his original election as U.S. President, that fact, and relevant other evidence signifies that Obama could be made President again only by the same kind of proceeding which brought Adolf Hitler into the successive steps of his appointment by the order of the combined agency of the Bank of England and the support of Prescott Bush’s actions on behalf of the Bank of England”s Hjalmar Schacht and and Brown Brothers Harriman.
Given the facts of the crisis about to hit with great force with the first ten days following the close of the U.S. Congress’s accounting year, and in light of the attempt to enforce the continued “bail out,” there can be no possibility that the forces controlling British puppet Barack Obama’s career do not fully intend to pull off a coup d’etat comparable to that of Adolf Hitler.
There is only one remedy for both the United States and the Trans-Atlantic community of nations: the immediate re-enactment of the 1933 Glass-Steagall law.

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Encyclopedia of American Loons #228
Diagnosis: Schizophrenic, megalomaniac raving lunatic who seems to wish to establish a socially conservative, fiscally socialist political system based on cult-like worship of the strong man (himself). That political system has been tried before. Fortunately LaRouche doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of implementing it in the US, despite the fact that he has a frighteningly large number of followers.
Megalomaniac, yes.  Schizophrenic, no.  The rest — yes.
It is interesting, in light of the “Strong Man (himself) argument, that one thing that has the “Larouche Cryonics Movement” wavering away from the new man — — is the latter’s positive word for Mao.

Okay.

The release of Dinesh D’Souza’s book, “The Roots of Obama’s Rage”, saw Newt Gingrich and some other commenters delve into his father as the Source for Obama’s “Anti British Imperialist”.
But I didn’t have to get past the title to suffer an element of cognitive dissonance.  A lot could be said for Obama, a lot negative can be said about Obama, but Rage? It’s a telling point of the alternative universes different political orientations are shelved into that we’re not just interpreting politics differently, but interpreting personal characteristics in polar opposite fashion.  I suppose an unflattering photograph has been taken (and circulated widely), and it’s hard to pass up.  Looking the book up, I see a suggestion that Dinesh D’Souza doesn’t quite believe his title either — it is, though the title stamped on the book, not the title it is identified as — the actual title is more sedate and generic, so far as these things go:  The Obama Leviathan: The Perversion of the American Dream.

Worse than D’Souza might be … this?
Or you can watch it after a car commercial, if you wish.

A lot can be said about Obama.  By now the “58 states” gaffe can be shoved aside for more germane points of Duplicity.  The overall message of this video leaves a bit to be desired — the band “New Republik” has snuck onto MTV — New Republik is, apparently, an undercover agents of “Infowars” — a shadow Intelligence Agency lead by Alex Jones and a guy in a black ski mask — who unveils the Illuminati Plot of arranging new robots to stand behind — moving on from Hitler and Stalin to Rumsfeld and Obama.  The song that is, I suppose, on MTV, is about peeing on their heads.  The presentation concludess with a gallery of their heroes — Ales Jones, David Icke, Internet Dolt who posts diatribes while wearing a Ski Mask, William Cooper, David Maxwell…
Ron Paul 2012…
The Oath Keepers.

Conceivably, some line of parody could have been created out of the elements and out of the conspiratorial political position held by … the creators of this film… but instead what we have here is an expression of their Acid Trip.

Eventually I will be able to sort out some of legitimate  and sensical polemics and parodies for Obama — but in the meantime I’m stuck with cries against Obama’s oppositon to British Imperialism and a poster of Obama in White Make – up affixed to the word “Socialism” (the word not part of the original artist’s critique, incidentally).

The Judge Threw the Book at Alan Mendelsohn.

It’s often been said that the one thing politics and stand-up comedy have in common is that timing is everything. The same also probably holds true when it comes to bribery. • In a few months Dr. Alan Mendelsohn will report to a federal prison to begin a four-year sentence in a public corruption case that saw him divert $700,000 for personal use from a political action committee he controlled. There is also the delicate matter of hiring an associate of then-Florida state Sen. Mandy Dawson, D-Fort Lauderdale, who served as a conduit for the elected official to receive $82,000 from the now-disgraced physician.

As a convicted bagman, Mendelsohn has already lost his career, a chunk of his personal fortune and his reputation, which means, of course, one of these days he would fit right in as a member of the Florida Legislature.

Yeah, I knew he was trouble ever since Middle School, when he caused a school-wide melee by telling everyone that he was from Mars.  His excuse to the principal was, if I recall right, “I was just telling a story.”

Hm…

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree’s celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team’s victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe — same-sex marriage.

On the same day that the New York State Assembly approved a same-sex marriage bill, Tyree warned of dire consequences if the legislation becomes law.

The bill’s passage would “be the beginning of our country sliding toward … anarchy,” he said

Tyree made the comments in a video released Wednesday by the National Organization for Marriage, which is spearheading opposition to the bill. The legislation must now clear the Republican-controlled State Senate where its fate is uncertain.

Hm.

Anarchy, you say?

“Marriage is the only relationship that actually mirrors the relationship with God,” he said.

I don’t know what that means.

He also argued that same-sex parents are ill-equipped to raise a child of the opposite sex.

I don’t know what that means.  Oh, wait: here’s the clarification.

“You can’t teach something that you don’t have,” Tyree said in the video. “So two men will never be able to teach a woman how to be a woman.”

What about certain Gay stereotypes?  Aren’t they worth anything for Tyree?

In an opinion column for Yahoo News, the group’s chairman, Maggie Gallagher, said Tyree told her he decided to speak out after his former teammate Michael Strahan declared his support for gay marriage last week.

That’ll show that dweeb, Strahan.

Hm.

“The catch was a gift, it’s not like I’d try to do it. I couldn’t do it again so that was a miracle,” Tyree told the New York Daily News.

God sure turned on the New England Patriots.  What did they do to forsake him?  (Probably the same as whatever made God decide to turn on Jon Kitna after the hub-ub surrounding a 6-2 start, as the Evangelical Choir moved on following a 1-7 finish to Jump on the back of Tim Tebow.)

“There’s nothing worth more than [maintaining marriage between a man and a woman] right here for me.”

Does that mean he’d give up the Super Bowl victory to stop gay marriage? “Honestly, I probably would.

“Nothing means more to me than that my God would be honored,” said Tyree, who does not oppose benefits for gay couples. “Being the fact that I firmly believe that God created and ordained marriage between a man and a woman, I believe that that’s something that should be fought for at all costs.

“So I’ll lay down everything I am to preserve the honor and integrity of the God that I serve.”

I tell you what.  Soviet History style, let’s just change the historical record.  Wipe out that play.  New England Patriots win!  Undefeated!  They own the phrase “19-0”.  Now, go to the rest of the New York Giants roster, from that year, and take away the bonuses and trophies and Championship and hand it all over to the Patriots.

Now the question I have: How could Tyree have dropped that ball at such an inopportune moment?

There is an ad out there, a Countdown clock counting down the days (0), hours (2 or 3 or 4 or 5 at this point) and minutes (however many) and seconds (SECONDS!!!) until the start of Keith Olbermann’s debut program on Current TV.

I can see the desire for this big push, and “EVENT” tagging.  Keith Olbermann will surely do for Al Gore’s Current TV what Dan Rather did for Mark Cuban’s HDNet TV.  (That’s not fair:  Rather is in the “journalism watched by few people business but we’ll do it anyway“, Olbermann is in the loudmouth pundit business.)

Maybe you saw the Jon Stewart appearance on Fox News’s Chris Wallace?  I suppose it’s one of those things you lob off to Stewart meeting with Bill O’Reilly on the matter of the “Common” “scandal“.  Looking for some reactions, here’s the headline at “Red State”: Chris Wallace schools Jon Stewart.  No, seriously.  This is a fun-house mirror view which makes Jon Stewart’s point.  But it could be worse — by way of moving into Internet comments threads — out of two dimensional thought processes and into one dimension.

What strikes me about Chris Wallace’s stances — having to move past the “Fair and Balance” positioning of Fox News while seamlessly without realizing the contradiction  jumping to the line that Fox News finally “Provides the ‘Other‘ Side” —
No, that is at least understandable and fully expected– what strikes me more than that, is his bizarre look at “other programming on Comedy Central” — a clip of some instantly forgettable rowdy thing or other circa 2007 and some premises and titles for a few South Park episodes.  I do not really know what this was getting at — the best I can think of is that it’s giving Fox News’s “cultural conservative” audience grist for their notions — South Park as the Barbarians bringing the culture to the Gates of Hell.
It is interesting to note that  in the last decade, South Park was heralded and celebrated as heralding “Conservative” views, and to a pretty good extent Parker and Stone do bring forth a Libertarian-ish sometimes Conservative point of view within the show.  (And, for that matter, their Broadway show about Mormons is seen as gracious and celebratory of the religion and religion in general, and “Team America:  World Police” was essentially pro-war in its outlook.)   That being said, when South Park started being touted for its politics, Parker and Stone reportedly became a little nervous and purposefully steered the show away from such conclusions.  (The better to avoid a type of cultural burn-out that comes with becoming a political barometer force.)

It began when James K Polk surreptitiously launched a war against Mexico for territorial expansion with the assumption that once US Military troops were there, Congress would acquiesce, not wanting to come out against the troops.  The opponents were thus easily marginalized, with one Congressman — Abraham Lincoln — given the nickname “Spotty Lincoln” for his impassioned floor speeches.

This, I guess you can say, was a dramatic turn-around from President Madison, who had to be pulled by Congress kicking and screaming into War with Britain.  President Van Buren later would be the ultimate appeaser, resisting the fanatical Mainers in their clamor for war with Canada.

The nickname “Spotty Lincoln” has stuck with Abe always, and today tourists at Mount Rushmore can be seen gazing at Lincoln’s visage with awed reverence, intoning, “There he is.  Spotty Lincoln!”

Obama and Libya, and the creative parsings to evade the definition of “war” as against the “War Powers” Act, for some reason has skipped over the Polk Precedent on the matter.  But, again, this would authorize something in the lines of “war”, which goes against the grain for a Nobel Peace Prize winner.  I do not know if “Police Action Powers” Act would serve Obama better.  There is something here in the way that Bush Administration officials offered up the War on Terror as one “without borders”, and later Obama’s nationalist opponents reference him as being “post American” and oh so International.

The current clamor will die down when Obama submits to the will of Congress in their demand to ascent to the deference of the Presidency and “Commander in Chief”.  In the end, we will have at our disposal several vote tallies to decipher — to spot out the meaning of the “Tea Party” as portioned out by “Ron Paul isolationists” and “Sarah Palin Nationalists”, with a free floating “Democrat in the White House Bad” in the mix.  The last I watched a Tea Party rally wasn’t a good sign — the creeping “War Protest Protest” vibe of the Bush Administration Era’s “Rally for the Republic” was sweeping through– and this against a sublimated period for war protests.  (Partisan Hackery, ain’t it?)

I did watch as the usual small Friday contingent of protesters marched downtown, during Fleet Week, and had an “ugh” moment in watching someone try to give a sailor a pamphlet.

The question: Who is the Spotty Lincoln of Today?

A rule I have had, from the start of his presidential campaign on into his presidency, with regards to caricature and Obama: just do us all a favor and stay away from the Primates.  Yes, there is a double standard that exists with Obama and the 42 Presidents who preceded him, but it is one with a historic reason for existing, and the various people in the recurring “Obama — Monkey” scandals know full well or should know full well the reason.

Still, I have seen in the recurring mini-controversies some room to parse meanings, which is to say to explain why in some instances the “just a caricature like done with Bush” doesn’t even compute.  The image sent out by an elected member of the central committee of the Republican Party of Orange County — which puts Obama’s ancestors as two monkeys — falls into this category.  The comment in her apology, “the thought never entered my mind until one or two other people [Scott Baugh, Orange County GOP boss, and this writer] tried to make this about race” is a little hard to fathom.

I would be inclined to argue that the Obama Joker image is not racist, except that the creation is stupid enough and not deserving of the attention necessary to argue the point.(*1)

One thing we can say about the elected Orange County Republican representative is she did have to give an account for her action — she was, perhaps feebly, “held to account”.

Mockingly, my thought after watching these 45 seconds, was “Well, that’s the end of that guy’s career in electoral politics.”  But of course, the Larouche Org does not function like a regular political organization.  They’ve a world of fantasists (*2), on the cusp of power against a sea of Historic Disintegration.  They’re a marketing scam operating off of political paranoia.  They play the politics of pissing into a pool, in the direction of a mass of piss, and pointing to the mass of piss and proudly beating their chest proclaiming — “See!  We did that!”  (For instance on that last one:)

Sarah Palin stole it from LaRouche.
They will never admit it.
They picked it up because I spammed it all over the Sarah Palin resigns video on youtube.
They are so easy to manipulate.(*3)

The comment from the diatribe produced there that I commented on at the time, on this blog, was In response to Obama’s insistence that he will not back down, LaRouche said: “Obama should back down or he might be hung.(*4) (Move forward on that blog post for an LPAC description of a Holocaust Survivor.)

These 45 seconds seem a non sequitur.   The awkward jab dangles there, at the end.  We have Sky Shields finish up his “Scientific Presentation”.  We have a couple of seconds of awkward silence, before the old cult leader makes his little joke — proudly –  “That was, Where does a chimpanzee go to vote in the US election?”  John Hoefel  — who it falls on to provide the punchline for the joke everyone is nervously laughing at –  lest that task land with Sky Shields: “I think at the White House.”  Forced Laughter follows.  Awkward silence.  They wrap up — “Anything else, Lyn?”  And it all ends badly from there.

The Larouche organization is running six candidates for Congress for 2012.  This is up from, depending on how you count, the two or three candidates they ran in 2010.  There are Kesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, Summer Shields, Dave Christie, Diane Sare, and Bill Roberts.  Running for office with your name on the ballot, gives a candidate some minimal media attention.  Rachel Brown received an amused amount of coverage when Barney Frank shot back at her at a Townhall meeting.  To a lesser extent, Diane Sare received some when New Jersey’s governor Chris Christie used her questioning to similar effect.  As this is a tactic for the organization, and as these six individuals have been moved front and center as the organization’s representatives at these townhall meetings, I imagine in the coming year, media outlets will find themselves with a few more moments like this.

More pointedly, in 2010 the two congressional campaigns gave the Larouchies two political debates.  Barney Frank stated about his debate with Rachel Brown that he never refuses a debate with anyone — a matter which caused some griping by his Republican general election foe for wanting to include minor party candidates — so it looks as though a Rachel Brown primary candidacy equals a Barney Frank — Rachel Brown debate.  It is not out of the realm of possibilities that Kesha Rogers could win her nomination again — the Democratic Party would not like to think about this district — which would mean another Public Broadcasting debate.

Of course, nobody asked the candidates for elected office about their organization’s previous Obama — Monkey scandal, wherein Larouche came out against miscegenation (in the parsing of meanings this falls in the category of “can’t even bother with the fig-leaf of caricature)– in 2010.  The debate moderators have a bit of a hard task with the Larouche candidates and what to do with them — you can more or less pick an item out at random from the Larouche org’s Collected Works and have something which is electorally disqualifying.  As it were, Rachel Brown and Kesha Rogers got out pretty darned easy in their debates, the debate moderators not really wanting to spend their time on irrelevant Larouche figures and tracking back to a sort of humoring of them, bemused eyebrow raising on how a quick relocation exercise to Mars will save humanity.(*5)

One more problem with the 2008 Monkey comments is the sourcing and origins.  They come from the org’s Internal Daily Briefings.  The Larouche wikipedia team stone-facedly shoved it aside for that reason.  But, when approaching the 2012 campaigns, the latest exercise in Racist awkwardness was delivered for public consumption.  A year is a long time before anything comes up where a journalist or moderator is in the definite position of having a sit – all, and I imagine it may be too much to ask for someone to actually “use the clip” for candidate reaction — but understand, if they were normal candidates running seriously for office they would be asked to respond to this clip.

Oh, Here’s Dennis King on this, by the way.

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(*1) A little … exuberant, I suppose.  Does it look as though Congress and the American President are a little too zealous about protecting Corporate Fascism and the wars that feed it?
According to Lyndon LaRouche of Larouchepac:
FDR & JFK’s policies were those that would prevent corporate fascism and protect the creativity as well as the right to flourish for any group of people in any given country by sovereignty rights by instituting such laws as Glass Steagal. The Patriot Act is only a veiled arm of fascism,designed to take down any that defend their rights by the constitution.LaRouche and his 40 years in Economic History under FDR & JFK Policies declare the easiest way to disarm & de-fund Corporate Fascism is to institute Glass Steagal. To do so, all the other arms of fascism will drop like a house of cards that it really is. Iceland,Ireland ,Spain & Greece seem to get the message.
Will the People of the Constitution take up their legacy???   It is Time to Lead the World into the greatest Leap of Human Rights & Progress that has ever been seen!!!
Actually Larouche hates FDR and JFK.  I read it in his Walter Lippmann book.

Exuberant?  Hey! i got a flood of pro-nuke folx commenting on the blog post.  I heard about the miracle of Thorium reactors [Thorium reactor proponents are a bit like Lyndon Larouche disciples – what they lack in logic they make up for in enthusiasm] about how i was a bad dad and on and on.  I blasted much of it.  It is my blog, i control the content.  Then i got a whole slew of “freedom of speech” objections.  People were upset that i had erased their comments, i blasted most of these comments as well.

To explain why any iteration of Glass Steagal passed won’t be good enough.:  Before Dave gets excited and goes all “Lyndon Larouche” on his readers about the return of Glass-Steagall courtesy of the U.K.’s Exchequer, there’s a few things you may want to consider.  To start with, growing up Dave shared a bedroom with his brother and this is where he learned one of the first lessons about power, control and the partitioning of assets and access.

Put up on “Impeach Obama” facebook page.  Lyndon LaRouche today said that the bipartisan Congressional revolt against President Barack Obama’s flagrant violation of the U.S. Constitution and the War Powers Act is just like the early moments of the Watergating of President Richard Nixon. “It is just the beginning, but the parallels to Watergate… Of course, “Watergate” is a verb meaning Presidents are set up for a fall because of the nefarious goals of — for instance in Nixon’s case, the Drug Dealers who wanted to squash Nixon’s “War on Drugs” and bring about a Dark Ages through Beatles music and through installation of Nelson Rockefellar as President.  I read about that in Dope, Inc.

Also, Larouche doesn’t go far enough.  Or maybe failed to act in time.   In  response to the US food shortages, high costs of food and fuel, Lyndon  La Rouche is calling for emergency food-price controls claiming that the  “US and  the world is being driven into hyperinflation…”  As far as  I’m concerned,  this is too little, too late.  A call for price controls  will only make the  situation much, much worse.  Instead, I propose the  immediate education of the  entire population in soil management,  sustainable living technologies, and  self-reliant living.  Perhaps,  PERHAPS, in a generation, our children may have  the ability to feed  themselves to a certain extent and won’t have to rely upon  a failing  political and economic system that may not make it one more  generation  out.

(*2)  Further seen, and I think more directly round straight back to the Larouchies, when Glenn Beck ran a special on George Soros.  Some people noticed.
Why do more people trust FOX news to be accurate and honest over all the other Soros influenced sources?
Beck’s source for his Soros piece was LYNDON LAROUCHE!!!
Don’t try to pretend Fox TV is any kind of serious news source.

The questioner there does the trick further by suggesting Fox News is “Soros influenced”, which I suppose is just as well.  Everyone makes use of a cropped and mis-directed 60 Minutes interview.

(*3) A parallel example can be found in this response from a Larouchie to a Pleasanton complaint on the Obama — Hitler image propped on a neighbor’s lawn.  The Larouchie has this mindset:  Looks like you’re out of your comfort zone; breaking laws to quash freedom of speech?  LaRouche agrees with you that America is headed towards Fascism. He believes it is already here and supported by Soros (considered by LaRouche to be a Synarchist, you know, the shadow government we’re all fighting against). That’s why LaRouche use the Obama-as-Hitler image. Now that he’s got your attention with that image, perhaps you’d like his politics. He wrote a book on Marxist political economy.
Somehow a person is supposed to be “shocked” by the image and then move from there to a “rational look at the facts” which ends with supporting their view point.  I will give them that it works on … just enough… people off of the edges to make it a going concern 50 years.

Some more comedy from this series of exchanges.:
“Civil Disobedience”:  Note, too, that Stacey, after providing her juvenile comment about LaRouche and Soros being equivalent actors in some kind of smackdown — such is Stacey’s moral sensibility I guess — fails to address Night Owl’s pointed question: What is it in her estimation that puts Lyndon LaRouche and George Soros on the same moral level? I imagine she’s still scouring wikipedia entries in hopes of finding something Nazi-like that Soros has done.

And This seems an odd forum to discuss things.
Isn’t part of the answer, though, within:

Talking of which, can anyone explain to me why “Koch” seems to have become synonymous with “antichrist” for the leftish side of the spectrum? Barely a day passes between inbox fillers about the latest Koch Nefariousness or Turpitude. It’s fracking tiresome. Are Lyndon LaRouche and Cigarette-smoking man no longer hip enough?.

(*4) To be fair, in the fantasist mind of Larouche, Obama is always on the edge here — ready to be put out once his controllers deem his use done.  Should someone like the schizophrenic man who shot at Representative Giffords, it will be blamed on an operation in place from Tavistock — the ultimate blamers somewhere in the imaginations of Daniel Brandt to shuffle whatever Ross Perot and Pat Robertson have on this.

They have “played both sides against the middle”, as with this slogan from that rosy period where the Larouchies were “in talks with the Obama Administration” and touting the “Institution of the Presidency” — and the slogan they circulated when defending a corrupt black Boston political figure at a city council meeting.

(*5) This is a standard thought that must run through the debate moderators — “Aren’t they a relic from the 1980s?” — Lyndon LaRouche? You date yourself, my dear. P.S. HoR, I apologise for my initial comments and did not mean to offend that “you date yourself (my dear).” I was a fan of Perry but have done my research. Much to my dismay,

OR:  That Lyndon LaRouche guy is funny as hell. “What caused all the problems in India, Africa, the US all over the world… The British Empire this guy is about 100 years late. How you going to blame the ills going on in any nation today .

AND THEN AGAIN:  from 2009:  LaRouche supporters continue to alienate both the left and the right. That is one thing that brings the Democrats and the Republicans together, their hatred for the LaRouchers.
The definition of madness is doing the same thing repeatedly while expecting different results.
After over 20 years of this completely idiotic Post Office campaign strategy, one would think they would finally get it. But they don’t, and that is why The LaRouchers are all quite insane.

Dateline Seattle.  The Lydon LaRouche movement has a display outside the Greenwood U.S. Post Office today.

Go peddle them to Lydon LaRouche, we’re not interested. boxofteabags – June 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am.

Thank god the Jews have the own country, they have a place to go when they get blamed for this thing again.
Herman Cain warned me about the false science of Chinese communists and radical Norwegian socialists­. Thank you godfather, I love the smell of ignorance in the morning.
Herman Cain must be a follower of Lyndon LaRouche.

You’re an idiot. Ron Paul was clearly the winner.
On what criteria: he was inarticulate, waffling and didn’t answer any question in a comprehensible manner. None of the “real” snap polls thought he won anything. You remind me of the blind cult-like LaRouchies or perhaps the Moonies. On what basis do you make that outrageous assertion.

Odd  that Lyndon LaRouche hasn’t declared. He seems like a perfect  Tea Party candidate.

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Larouche In Conversation to the “Great Minds” of The Day, as he was in conversation with “Great Minds” in Grade School after everyone bullied him (I read that in his autobiography):.

Here’s a piece by Makow this morning that I think has merit. [+] Makow points to the Enlightenment as a counter-action against the Renaisance like Larouche does but he refuses to see FDR in the same light as Larouche, perpetrating the myth that FDR let Pearl Harbor happen. Still, Makow has merit and is consistent with Larouche on a number of points using a slightly different semantic frame than Larouche. Makow doesn’t know about Witzsche’s solutions however and in fact, Makow doesn’t really have any solutions. He does advocate resistance however in this article.

AND… — “Brother Nathaniel”.  “Tracing America’s Enslavement to Jewish Bankers”. Although now misunderstood by economists such as Lyndon LaRouche and associates, for the greater good of America, President Jackson sent federal troops into the states who refused, (albeit indirectly), to pay off the debt to Jewish bankers, forcing those states to collect taxes. View Entire Story Here , Here , Here & Here . For seventy-seven years, although argued that Jewish financing of America’s railroads and gold trafficking kept the nation under Jewry’s thrall, America was no longer under the heel of Jewish bankers. Andrew Jackson, remarkably…federal force notwithstanding…paid off the debt.

Two different things.  You see what we have is a false debate
Bankster Keyneisan Healthcare
Bankster Austrian Healthcare
What we had up to Obamacare was neither, Obamacare decidely put it into Bankster Keynesian Healthcare
You want a clearer picture here’s two things about Austrian school (no need to debunk keyneisan since we all know that here)
To reference the fascist LaRouche is enough in and of itself to discredit you, but you’re at least honest enough to admit the source of your ideas, so I’ll give you that much.

The Bilderberg Group has been denounced as a conspiracy from left and right, from everyone from crackpots like Alex Jones, Lyndon LaRouche, Phyllis Schlafly to Jesse Ventura (see video above) and Fidel Castro, who described “sinister cliques and the Bilderberg lobbyists” manipulating the public “to install a world government that knows no borders and is not accountable to anyone but its own self” in an article he wrote for Granma .

If you say so.  (Preparing a people for the savior’s soon return… Wait.  Who’s he talking about here?)

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An Update:

Occurring after this entry was posted, an anonymous user on wikipedia removed a mass of material at the Larouche wikipedia page from his autobiography “of sorts” — on “making Kant and Descartes and Leibnz his peers” and being not an “ugly duckling” but a “nasty duckling”.  I leave it to you to determine if there was a connection between the two events, and at any rate the material has been restored by Will Beback.

Other wikipedia items: Est 300 wisely moved some material to the Amelia Robinson article, Waalkes moved it back, seeking a counter to views expressed by “Bakker” and a Larouche validator.  To answer Javen’s question about the “HK Sock Puppet Menace” posed in Larouche Movement: Yes.  A comedic moment is seen at the Views page with Cla68’s question, by way of sidelining King and Berlet, “Who is the biggest expert on Larouche’s philosophy than Larouche himself?”.  (Curiously mixed in this is an argument that too much weight is given to his views on the Queen.)  And, Sheldon Droden’s attention (by way of a Commentary piece about the Air America founder’s perchance with “Prescott Bush founded the Nazis”) and a Village Voice article were brought to bear to validate EIR.

Jim Demint is not running for President.  He sort of kind of endorsed Michelle Bachman, though.

Michelle Bachman got a glowing USA Today cover story, citing her as now “Mainstream”.  We are doomed, doomed, doomed.  Bachman appears to be this week’s mode of Herman Cain — “Debate Performance” propped her up to “buzz” …

Buzz from whom?  I don’t know.  She announced her candidacy.  Her reason for running for President, I assume, is more noble than Newt Gingrich’s Candidacy — probably about what we suspected it.

With Donald Trump out, and Jim Demint announcing he’s out (were people sitting on the edge of their seats hoping for such a thing?), Rick Perry and Rudy Giuliani are entertaining thoughts.  (We know Giuliani is thinking of running beceause he ate lunch with New Jersey’s governor?) 

A sure fire sign of Huntsman running:
“I intend to announce my candidacy for the presidency of the United States of America a week from today,” Huntsman said.
Isn’t that an announcement?

You look wistfully back — for some reason Tim Pawlenty failed to call it RomneDoBamaCare.  But again:

As to the Tea Party? Dole said he thought he was conservative until this group came along. He’s still trying to figure them out.

We need an Eisenhower or a TPAW?