STORY NUMBER ONE: Larouche Blames Baby Boomers for Suckiness of Website

I assume everyone was up and at ’em for this one.
Be sure to mark your calender to watch LaRouche’s International Webcast next Tuesday April 19, 2011 1pm edt and 10 am pdt

I trust everyone in the New York area jumped to the opportunity provided by  Howie G .:
We will have two public showings in the NJ office, one live at 1 pm, and the other 7:30 pm . Please call me for more details, or rides from NYC.

Something Interesting came out of it, no?
Check out the April 19th International Webcast at around 3:16:00, where Debbie Freeman reads off a question about the health of the LPAC website. She refers to the questioner as being “a paranoid, because I know him” which makes everyone laugh. (Maybe some of you old timers from the org know who it is.)
THE DEAR LEADER actually responds! He says, the website is dropping in quality due to financial straits.
“Its not the fault of the young folk, the LYM,” Lyn assures us all, which means they’re doing their jobs at the card table.
Rather, “Its the fault of the Baby boomers,” and proceeds to blame JFK’s assassination on disrupting the flow of funds into the LPAC coffers to maintain a pristine propaganda outlet.

We’ll just have to see how this one develops.  I do notice the Larouchepac is shinier and spins around and stuff– that must have been an innovation brought by the new Generation.  It should help mend this problem:

STORY NUMBER TWO:  POST OFFICE TOUR LIVENED UP BY SITCOM THEME SONGS

My first thought is that they must be “bringing the message” “down” to the level of the “Masses”.

Wikipedia describes Lyndon LaRouche as a perennial presidential candidate, and I like that description, because the word “perennial” reminds me of the word “perineum,” which is the area between a man’s scrotum and anus, which is a great metaphor for where I think Lyndon LaRouche lies on the spectrum of human beings. […]

What further angered me was that the girl standing behind the LaRouche table, which is currently set up across from the post office on 24th Street in Noe Valley, San Francisco, was humming the theme song from Full House. Please, allow me to refresh you:

It appears I don’t really know the lyrics to Full House, as if you’d asked me I’d have come to the first two lines as “Whatever happened to individuality, the milkman, the paperboy, even tv?”.  There are things I’m embarrassed about mistaking, and I have to say this is not one of them.  But, looking over the real lyrics I am brought to the question — What Neo-platonic meaning does this have?

This blogger posted the shortened version, apparently.  If I at first figure that they’re demanding answers to the problems of economic dislocation (Whatever happened to predictability, the milkman, the paperboy, evening tv? –, my next guess is that if you’d stayed there for another few minutes one would have heard the Fresh Prince theme.  You have to figure out some way to occupy yourself.  Otherwise, you’re stuck in the dire dreariness of the messaging of Dave Christie — breaking through the stonewall at last.

This does bring an interesting question, one that I’d probe to former and current Larouchies manning the card table shrines.  What songs have you hummed to yourself?  Have you ever brought out a chorus version for a song which proves itself inappropriate to the Larouchian message?  (counter to “mainly pressing for federal bank regulation reform, supposedly.)  A discussion of this topic might surely bridge the gap of understanding between larouchies and non-larouchies, and diffuse misunderstandings on the order of:

Am I lost and alone, Lyndon LaRouche? Are you the light that’s waiting to carry me home? Did you even watch Full House? Because I guarantee you that if Uncle Joey saw you on the street he’d tell you to cut it out before introducing you to his fist. Uncle Joey was a doofus, but I’ll bet even he recognized a social injustice when he saw one.  The man lived in a basement and never had a girlfriend. His life was fraught with social injustice.

Wooah.  Wooah.  No need to get violent there.  Recent news coverage from San Francisco and … Put away that fist!  I mean, even if you agree with this sentiment…

Like I said, they’re going to places YOU NEVER KNEW EXISTED!

Just ask them if they’re planning on doing a full-on Jonestown routine once Lyndon finally kicks it. The dude is 89 years old, so they really need to start thinking about this.

Come to think of it, I think the card table jobs are where the planned CCC renewal is heading, not so much the Maglev Trains.

Anyway, we’re in league with the Dutch for some reason, and we like enviromentalism. This sounds ok, but apparantly enviromentalism will lead to us performing mass genocide when we topple the U.S. and rule the world. Don’t ask me how enviromentalism and genocide are linked, truly I don’t know.. my government hs clearly left me outside of this plot. […]
And finally, we have social healthcare in the UK.. and it’s fucking brilliant. I was a low eaner in the UK, I still pay taxes toward the syste but much less than I’d have to pay for health insurance.. and I can go to the doctor, dentist or optician whenever I want.. for free. No bills to have my baby brought into the world.. no filling in forms with a broken arm. But hey, if it’s not for you.. no problem.

Hold on there, Buster!

On Monday, April 11, Sergey Pulinets’ wide-ranging interview assembling the science of earthquake forecasting from multiple sorts of precursors, appeared on LaRouchePAC’s website. Two days later, on April 13, Lyndon LaRouche and two members of his “basement team” drew out the fuller implications of Pulinets’ interview in an historic LaRouchePAC Weekly Report.

But that same Wednesday, April 13, the British Empire rushed into mass print worldwide, with an interview and article by Robert Geller, who has for decades been the leading denier of the cognizability and forecastibility of earthquakes, as well as the leader of an inquisition which has denied funding, publication, and even sought to deny the right of association, to scientists studying earthquakes, all on behalf of frontman for British- sponsored genocide Barack Obama and other, earlier genocidalists like Al Gore.

You are indeed in league with the Dutch.
Meantime, health care activists upset about Obama’s plan speak out:

Healthcare is also a major concern, for very personal reasons. “AIDS made me a healthcare advocate,” Osborns says, during her time as the executive director of the LA Gay and Lesbian Community Services Center during the “second wave” of the AIDS crisis. It was then that she became a “passionate” supporter of Single Payer health reform. She carries that passion “within my soul out of the AIDS epidemic, that I owe [it] to Gabe Kruks and Ken Dawson and my friend Mark Kostopoulos, who was the first person to talk to me about Single Payer in 1989 or 90.”

Osborn says she asked her friend, West Hollywood City Councilmember John Duran (who also co-chair Equality California), “why is the Obama endorsement not being used?” After all, Osborn notes, she’s had experience working on the No on 64/, LA Rouche Initiative to quarantine people with AIDS and longtime campaign consultant David Mixner, for whom Osborn once worked, had worked on the No on 6/Briggs Initiative campaign.

STORY NUMBER THREE:  YOUTUBE VIEWERS CONTINUE TO BE MESMERIZED BY LAROUCHE AND ALEX JONE’S FULL FRONTAL ATTACK ON THE JEWS

The youtube machine, As we proceed from here:
this could be the catalyst to a chain reaction. A true end to left/right paradigm.
Yessirre.  Together, Alex Jones and Lyndon Larouche are UNSTOPPABLE.
Destruction of the NWO!! no mercy!!!
THE MIGHTY WURLITZER HAS IMPLODED!!!!
The old right/left paradigm breaks through in a hurry.
Why Alex never talk about the Koch brothers?
Koch industries has one of the cleanest records of any company in their market, ever. They preach social and economic freedom, which by the way has lifted half a billion people out of poverty in the last 10 years. Is this what you’re against?
OR Because they are the owner and master of the country!, and I think Alex is very good to name the old rich family name, but never mentions the current masters …

The removal of banks could be & CAN BE achieved in a mater of weeks if not days with a truly educated public armed with mathematical proof of solution, what I advocate,3rd grade maths ‘MATHEMATICALLY PERFECTED ECONOMY” the tuff part is all these plagiarist like LaRouche claiming false solution to the waking zombies.

Ooooh.  IN YOUR FACE!!!  But the bottom line may be:

The British Empire went under Jewish influence in the time of Henry Cromwell.
He accepted the Portuguese Antonio Fernandez Carvajal (c.1590-1659), which opened a relationship with the sefardic community of Amsterdam. It was the start of the British Israelism (look up Wikipedia for it).
The german houses of Coburg, Gotha, Sax , Hess, Hapsburg and Brunswick were financially obliged to Jewish Bankster, not the least, Amschel Bauer of the Red Banner.

Go look closely at an enlarged photo of Prince Charles. Is he “British” or “Jewish”? The Queen of England IS NOT BRITISH! She is a German from the family of SAXE-COBURG-GOTHA (Ger. Sachsen-Koburg-Gotha). Some of the Russian Monarchy’s were also imported from Germany. Many of the British people are unaware of this fact (or would rather not know). So did the AshkeNAZI lose any war? NO! The only true fascists in this world are these, who are the capstone of all international banks and monopolies.
I don’t believe the law should allow usury, period. I believe the financial industry should always be kept a service based industry that serves the people before itself. And BTW Muslims do not believe in charging interest on money either (by religion) and that is one reason the AshkeNAZI are trying to genocide them all over the world. The other reason is to drive Christians and Arabs into a holy war so they will eliminate one another and the AskeNAZI can avoid blame (again).
It’s a Zionist Voodoo Banking system.
Control of the Money, is control of it all.
it really is zionism. One reason “british, anglo-dutch, etc.” doesn’t work so well.
Safer to say British Anglo whatevers.
much safer, but in the end ZOG will destroy all, so these petty semantics are acts of cowardice. these non stop wars are really for a greater Israel. They are not for oil. I just heard someone say that it will be a super power once it gets it’s original borders as given to them by God. Which reminds me of how Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman Sachs said they are doing God’s work by ripping everyone off.
As it even saids in the bible they will call themselves the jew but they will not be the jew, infact they will be the Synagogue of satan, i ask you is rothschild and rockerfeller not the synagogue of satan and ture evil, they do call themselves jews but they arent jews, and then the belfour declouration was signed to lord rothschild.

La Rouche reminds me of a Left Wing version of Alex Jones circa 2001back when he was a complete right wing NRA gun nut. Although, I agree with the bulk of what he says he often comes across as a little *too* uncompromising.

@Istina52 That is what you call activism????? Come on man!!!
Give your gold and silver to the LaRouche youth so they can organize the Gideons army.

LaRouche, strong man. Trouble is plenty of weak people out there. One of the biggest weaknesses with man is that there are always sell-outs. I hope America gets through it all. Requires activism as LaRouche suggets. Enough of getting the message out there as Alex Jones keeps on saying. The message is out there. People need to band together and start being active. i.e buy an ounce silver coin each and hammer JP Morgans shorts on silver. Possible could cripple JP Morgan. This is what we need to do

Okay, this is not the only interpretation people are having for Larouche’s brand of esoterica…

In the above link is Lyndon LaRouche’s most spectacular article tracing the roots of the current monetary system to the isle of CAPRI,  sardonically the Democrats & Republicans being a fractal of Sodom & Gomorrah; Capri was notorious for its sexual debauchery and homosexuality. LaRouche like Kubrick has insight into the sexual kundalini energizing the whole system; this is where the current monetary system originated before the collapse of the Roman Empire, which was later revamped into the Venice bankers stronghold (they relocated to those swamplands to avoid being attacked), and much later recycled into the current British  banking system that rules the globe and is now gradually collapsing, taking everything down with it the more the governments insist in clinging to it (“bailing” it out) with slight irrelevant modifications.

Or you could go with the Timeline to December 2012.

Voice of Reason; I name you Voice of Treason; […]
if you take the side of the money changers I name you BETRAYER OF CHRIST.

The Jehovah’s Witness clique of Larouchies mix some things up.  To the best of my knowledge, you’ll only get the former knocking at your door, though.  It becomese Esoteric, like Dennis Miller.  He did say one thing that was really funny – though, most MNF fans probably didn’t get it…  “That pass was so far left, it almost decapitated Lyndon LaRouche”. That used to be in a list of pop culture references on wikipedia.  But that category was fought off some time ago.  Instead, we’re apt to figure these things out:

an imaginary issue that should be relegated to the realm of the John Birchers and the Larouchies being given credence by otherwise rational seeming conservatives and libertarians of at least normal intelligence

STORY NUMBER FOUR:  WIKIPEDIA FIGHT FOR RAMSEY CLARK

The Wikipedia Review is all aflutter.  ACTION!  Take your places!

It’s rather disappointing, really.  The most amusing item in this sphere is the presentation of one hell of a loopy suggestion.  Check this one out!

“No editor who has made more than 50 edits in the past year to that group of articles reasonably connected to, or about, Lyndon LaRouche or his followers or movement shall be exempt from the following: No such editor shall make more than one edit per month, counting substantially consecutive edits as a sngle edit, to any single one of such articles, subject to (the usual remedies)”
Good lord — that’d result in one American System volunteer with cutesy name referencing the literary work of James Fenimore Cooper or political after another referencing Nicholas of Cusa.
Cla68, in the discussion boards, brings up that “me, Jayen, Keithbob, and Other Choices and the IP editors all are, as far as I know, not socks of HK”.  Cla68 leaves out Stani Stani, who furthers the line of inquiry with rhetorical flourishes of “gotcha” mentality that ends  with a lick and a chop in a “meet you at the arb req” cackle.

The big story out of the wikipedia discussions is the ISP # fighting for Ramsey Clark to be in featured in the lede of the Larouche article.  As he says, Clark is a “specialist in politically targeted prosecutions”.  What is amusing is there was also a recent struggle over the Baath Party.
Hm.

In other items, someone removed the term “oligarchical historian” from Webster Tarpley.

STORY NUMBER FIVE: Harley Schlanger Leads LPAC Victory Parade With Rotary Club Speech
Schlanger is a board member of the international Schiller Institute, a political and economic think-tank. He also is a spokesman for economist Lyndon LaRouche.
Schlanger spoke to the Monroe Rotary Club late last week about the country’s financial situation.
He apologized to Monroe Rotarians before his speech, saying he always was the bearer of bad news.
I hear that a loaf of bread is going to cost twenty bucks.  But in this crazy mixed up world in which we live in, maybe even Glenn Beck has the answers.

Harley Schlanger was also on Dr. Deagel, which I’ve previously referred to as “Dr. Kleagel” for his “Esoteric Radio Shows“.  The big star of that program, a program in esoterica, was apparently Jesse Trentadue — doing his best to exonerate his brother for the Oklahoma City bombing.

Jeff Steinberg continues his appearances on Iran’s Press TV.  Not on behalf of Larouche but on behalf of Executive Intelligence Review.

Not to be out-done Dennis Small appeared with Daniel Estulin, Head of the department’s Hispanic LaRouche organization.  Estulin had to fight off some comments, the type of comments Larouchies let pass on the Alex Jones websites a couple weeks ago (while immediately jumping at any negative reference to the cult).

Daniel Estulin:  Lingen, I’m on the side of Cardinal Nicolaus of Cusa and that you should say everything. ¿Sabes quien es? Do you know who is? ¿Conoces su contribución al desarrollo de la humanidad? Do you know their contribution to human development? Hablar del Cristo y Semana Santa sin entender la visión de Cusa es inútil. Speaking of Christ and Easter do not understand the vision of Cusa is useless.

The Jews Control Everything:  Do not go by Dennis small branches, the Obama campaign was finaciado by the Jewish mafia.

Daniel Estulin:  must see that my contents escucia dirty mass. Deberias dedicarte a vender entradas en el zoo, chaval. You should dedicate yourself to sell tickets at the zoo, kid.

Alvaro:  ja ja. Daniel Ya era hora que le pongas en su sitio a este payaso neonazi yo otritos que solo ven conspiraciones judias, a joder con tanta mierda. Daniel It’s about time that you put in place this clown otritos neonazi I only see Jewish conspiracies to fuck shit.

In the interest of bringing further “pro-Larouchie” commentary — but I can’t tell if this linking  is pro or anti?  Directs you to something, tosses in word “cult” — a matter the Alex Jones fans who think Larouche has something to say bring up.

NEW FEATURE: Because this one is always coming up, we will play the Sesame Street classic “One of these things is not like the other”.
Plato, Einstein, Lincoln… the answer is the one stated, left out in the elipses.

Hm.
U.S. Senator Jon Kyl erroneously linked Kwiatkowski to Lyndon LaRouche–an association which she has vehemently denied.  Later, she received a written apology from the senator.

Hm.
Let’s put aside the easy examples of Obama’s shabby treatment of the Queen of England and the Prime Minister of Israel (who does he think he is, Lyndon LaRouche?).
Nah.  Must just agree with Jerry Seinfeld and Lawrence– whose commentary against paying any attention to the Royal Wedding is, hilariously enough, being referenced by the org for validation.

One more question:  Why do I care what Ayn Rand thought about Jazz?

STORY NUMBER ONE:  ALEX JONES WELCOMES NEW MEMBER IN THE LEAGUE OF VATICAN ASSASSINS!

Yes, congratulations to the Org for joining the horde of “Vatican Assassins”.  For the sake of getting as large an audience as possible, from some lead in from media attention, nothing beats the day of the Charlie Sheen interview.  But the day Larouche got on Alex Jones falls into the next rung — though it is a distant second in terms of attention.  Fox News fired Glenn Beck, and due to their symbiotic relationship (which gets complicated) — and while it pains me to do so, I do have to give Beck kudos for that one), Jones would have to address the matter.
But this only goes so far.  I don’t remember who Jones had on after Charlie Sheen, and I would be more likely than most to catch that.  Media Matters stops at Jones discussing Beck — not much gist for the partisan mill to be mined in sticking around, no way to slam Fox News.  The Examiner won’t bother to shift past that either.  Had they, we would have seen Lyndon Larouche and David Icke — The British Empire and then the Lizard People.

Hm. Given that, wait a few years and Jones will bring on Beck and vice versa.  Maybe Joel Skousen will decide that what Beck did to promote his uncle deserves them to be pulled together.
Like Sean Stone brought together Jones with the Larouche Movement.  Or so was said as Stone followed Jeffrey Steinberg.  Actually, I don’t really believe that.  There’s something a little funny going on, and I don’t know what it is.  I see the benefits for Larouche — they really do need a platform, and this is the largest available for their market segment.  Jones, I guess, just has the need to throw as many “truth Seekers” into his tent to be pissing outside his tent instead of standing outside pissing into his tent.  (Is that how that metaphor goes?)  I think someone really needs to do an investigative documentary dvd on this — show how the Cabal of Conspiranoid Junkets works — call it, in reference to Jones, “When the Mask Slips”.  I’ve got the final scene: it’s of someone shouting at Jones’s house in a bullhorn.

I can’t figure out whether to recommend actually listening to this interview.  Jones and Larouche spend a good deal of time talking past each other, and I imagine that I would not know the difference between the transcript of what Larouche says here and the transcript of a Larouche webcast.  Larouche makes sure to stay a top of Jones, and we see that when — at one point — he responds to some conspiracy posited by Jones with “Th — That’s part of it.  That’s part of it”, a mere part of it — you understand.  (12:17 here.)
Also of some note, I guess… Who killed Kennedy?  (They did.)

Larouche brings out the biggie at 9:50 here — “We’ve got intel that tells us they’re planning on overthrowing the Monarchs.” …
“What we’re looking at is the famous mythical story of Zeus and Prometheus.”
And it goes on and on. The 62 Million Year Cycle brings us to the verge of our Crisis of Humanity.  And in the Ventian Inner Alpha Group, we see the Face of Pure Evil.

Demonstrating his judicious research skills — the type that lead Jones to review the work of the Larouche movement and look further to see its validity — Jones quotes Jefferson.  He ran into this “an hour ago”.  Yes, here it is — on snopes.

The mention of FDR draws Jones to find common ground.  We can debate these things about welfare, but first we have to break down the common enemy — as Ron Paul said the other day on his show.  This, I suppose could nod to a divergence of matters — how do they each view Rand Paul?  To Alex Jones, Rand Paul is a mole within the beast — to Larouche, Rand Paul is a Hitler mustached partner in crime with Obama.  Maybe next time, they can get into this issue?  (Whatever happened to the Rand Paul Hitler Mustache campaign anyway?)

The reviews are coming in.

Now I know what Stephen Zarlenga, founder of The American Monetary Institute, was talking about in one of his interviews when he said that LaRouche supporters jump off the deep end with some of their proposed solutions. In this case, I think LaRouche did multiple Olympic gold medal winning jumps off the deep end throughout most of his interview.

It is funny how these things come together.  This line now comes with a new meaning now that they’re all together.

I knew it, blame it on the jews
You sound like David Ike.
Lyndon Larouche ?
Here come the lizard people.

STORY NUMBER TWO:  SAN FRANCISCANS  HITTING MISIDENTIFIED SIGN WAVER CAUSES CONFUSION, MIXED ATTEMPTS AT PARTISAN GAME-WINNING, CLARIFICATION ON WHAT GOES VIRAL

When the show comes up on youtube lets make this go viral!

I admit I had my doubts when I saw this suggestion.  But I was impressed to see that they had succeeded in getting the discussion between Alex Jones and Lyndon Larouche to go “viral”.  The trick was to clip it down to its most important and succinct two minutes, and it became the biggest thing on the Internet for a day or so.  Here it is — Alex Jones and Lyndon Larouche holding forth.

Actually there was something Larouchian that did “go viral”.  It was big enough to make memeorandum, at least.  Larouchie card table operator punched.  It’s, unfortunate, and people really should not do that, but it’s instructive to see why it received the amount of attention it did.

The San Francisco paper botched the story, and also published a file photograph of an Obama supporter sign waver, giving a suggestion that it was this man who was punched.  Charges of media bias in focusing so much on conservatives behaving badly and not showing liberals behaving badly were mixed with allegations of conspiratorial plants and mixed with charges of “Leftist” overplaying a victim card.  Oddly, the “Even in San Francisco” meme could straddle before pre and post correction.  Next a post correction came in, the assailants and victims were identified, and liberal commenters came in with a “Can’t you read?”  The conservative commenters and bloggers general line shifted to “Left on Left Violence!”, charged the liberal assailant with being over emotionally to their “Dear Leader”, and we got some discussion on which dictator Obama better resembles,  As well an attempted clarification of circumstances.

Other false notes bob up: Why wouldn’t this be classified as a hate crime? Oh, that’s right white victims don’t count.
A decent amount of extricating the Larouchies from any real partisan battle takes place:

Sympathy for the assailants is expressed:

I saw those “LaRouchies” in Costa Mesa with their card table and both Bush and Obama pictures with Hitler mustaches. I told them that I was voting for Ron Paul and they both went off like a couple of idiots. Good for whoever it was who messed with them. They deserve that and more.

According to a witness, he was farther left than President Obama!?!? Isn’t complete socialism the only thing farther left than President Obama. I kind of don’t feel sorry for this guy getting beaten up.

Hm.

Those LaRouche people are just out there to enrage people. I was waiting in line to cus them out a while ago on 16th and Mission until a hail of eggs came flying at their table and they had to pack up and leave.

Bottom line: All I know about the guy is that their supporters rang every single buzzer at my old building early one Saturday, and thinking it was a neighbor who was locked out, I went downstairs. Once I figured out what was going on, I think I interrupted their schpiel with “Wait, I came down here for this? It’s barely 9am. What the hell?” – turned around and went back upstairs, grumbling. Their flyer somehow made it into my hands though. I’m still pissed.

Or, botome line: troll?

It’s spreading… kind of.  Dateline Healdsburg:

Wesley Vanderschaaf, one of the two activists at the table, said he and the other person, who declined to give her name, were there to oppose Obama’s policies on taxes, Wall Street bailouts, budget issues and healthcare and to solicit support for six congressional candidates backed by the Leesburg, Va.-based Lyndon LaRouche political action committee.
“We’re just getting contact information,” said Vanderschaaf, pointing to a mailing list that people could sign. [..]
Asked about the Hitler-style mustache on Obama, Vanderschaaf said Obama’s policies are “indifferent to the wishes of the population,” similar, he said, to those that Hitler espoused in the 1930s and which led to the Holocaust. He also referred to the earthquakes in Japan, saying that Obama’s budget decisions would lead to shortages in emergency services in the U.S.
Felix, however, who is Jewish, said she was so upset by the display that she later called a local peace group to let them know about it.

Not too bad, I guess, call the Peace Groups — police won’t “do something”.  McWhirr chimes in:

Henry McWhirr:  Secondly, in response to your statement about “defiling the memory of those who died in the Holocaust,” I should think that the best way to honor their memory is to be vigilant against any recurrence of those policies.

Uh huh. There’s nothing all that much to get upset over.  Besides which, it feeds them a false Messianic claim of Martydom.  Note how the trifling San Francisco incident made the Alex Jones description — mass strike indeed.

STORY NUMBER THREE:  LAROUCHIES LAUNCH ATTACK ON ANTI-LAROUCHIE COMMENTERS, LEAVE ALONE JEW TALK

And so it goes:  Obamer-Listen to anything this guy has to say-Study this man– He has something to say—-LISTEN TO HIM—-He studies what you are seeing now- We see what he is saying because we havent listend before- Is it to late? I dont know but I do know this – If we dont do anything we are in TROUBLE——-The movement has begun- where do ou stand-Ed
He’s alright, I disagree with a bit of his stuff. Mos def on our side though.

And so it goes:
WHY IS THURSDAY’S PODCAST OF LYNDEN LAROUCHE UNAVAILABLE?!!
It is, without question, THE most important, most concise and direct briefing to the American people and to the world who exactly the enemy is and what can and MUST be done in order to reverse course and rout humanity’s enemies.
[…]Keep up the good fight until the Lord Jesus Christ comes to finish the war once and for all!!!
Interesting audience segment, that one.

But a few comments leap out at the infowars page:

Lyndon LaRouche knows perfectly well that when he looks in the mirror he sees the face of evil. I have followed this truly wild eyed nutcase sine the early 70s and he is as wacko as they come.
fuck you douche bag your so full of shit your eyes are brown.

I agree 100% it is the zionist, and Im not buying into the middle east riots as a spontanious or mass whatever. any fool can see it is organized Im not taking anything away from Lyndon LaRouche, but i dont think he really knows what hes talking about.. as to who is behind it all.Lyndon is a fake? Yeah…right. Lyndon has been fighting the good fight since before you were an itch in your daddy’s pants, pal.

Gotta say, I’m a little dissapointed that AJ interviewed Larouche. Larouche is basically a cult leader and con man. Its not enough that he says something occasionally correct, AJ shouldn’t support tyrannical people.
go away and don’t back……and knock on my door for food

I’ve seen the LaRouche people at my University campus several times with their Obama Hitler mustache posters. I don’t talk to them.

These receive responses.  Well, not that last one.  What doesn’t?

Search for “The Secrets Known Only to the Inner Elites,” a LaRouche essay from the late 70s where he addresses this issue at length.
To paraphrase his view of judaism, it’s at its roots an irrational cult, but certain versions of it (ie that of Moses Mendelssohn) are perfectly tolerable. The elite “Jews” you see (with a few exceptions like the Rothschilds) are basically a shield for people with real money and power, most of whom can be traced back to the venetian “fondi” (family funds) of the middle ages.
Judaism isn’t a root doctrine. So while Jews like the Rotschilds have the same outlook as the “satanic” outlook of certain European nobility, “satanism,” or whatever you’d call it, is older. Judaism was created to advance the same agenda – LaRouche often refers to the story of prometheus – keep the people stupid and scared so you can control them.
Zionism is a British franchise. The history of Israel is laid out pretty clearly in LaRouche’s “Dope, Inc.”

The truth of 311 seismic terror　：　It’s a D. Rockefeller’s job.
1. 311 quake was the combination of 3 consecutive [blah blah blah]
6. D.Rockefeller will implement the similar tactics in U.S. and other area in order to let Christian consider this could be the initiation of Armageddon before “2nd coming”. But, one should know D. Rockefeller is a Marrano Jewish who tries to make use of Christian to establish ONE WORLD to be reigned by STEALTH JEWISH.

It is a lie to focuse on terms like “the Queen,” and the British crown’s machinations or the “Rothschilds” when in fact a racial element is obviously central… not everything… not even the majority numerically for sure… but central.
By not confronting Jewish people at the Ashkenazim’s racist control, we deny them the opportunity to break their tribal programing and to join us… that is humanity without a racial caveat.
(He then proceeds to ask a series of questions of “Who controls this” and “Who did that?” to which his answer is “The Jews”.)
The sublimating the above facts to “England,” the Queen, etc. does not help. Yes Britain is controlled by the same entity and British Intelligence worked American before WW 1 and 11 etc. and yes Jewish men have been members of the English aristocracy since they bought their way in after they elevated Cromwell with their money. Hell… THE CITY is a sovereign nation is my understanding! For the Deity’s sake! Who controls The City? […]
The Elite is a Treasonous element within all the world now… just go through the Aspen Institute’s site and look at the pictures… but my objection is that if we don’t tell the whole truth we are too bending information and will not be given the power of the great force of Light in the Universe that in the end is what judges us all for our survival … its terms are these: do we bring Light to the Universe? Do we bring knowing? [blah blah blah

Well, it’s all a merry circus!

I am sure you, and many of your listeners are Christians. As such, I want to address the issue of conspiracy that so often is raised in your program. […]
So either people like Soros or the Queen of England are directly working in cooperation with Satan, or they are his “useful idiots” doing his bidding thinking they are working to ultimately help humanity. As you say Alex -”they are deluded”.

Maybe Webster Tarpley can be reunited sometime soon…

This was a terrific interview. Perhaps Alex’s greatest strength is his respect for many diverse opinions — all pointing in the general direction of truth. La Rouche has some fabulous ideas and solutions for the current crisis. Its a shame W. Tarpley had a fallout with him – they both are lighthouses. There is a cult-personality though within La Rouche’s movement which is slightly disturbing, but then again how many in the truth movement are stupid Jesus freaks or marginalized high school dropouts as well ?

STORY NUMBER FOUR:  WIKIPEDIA MADNESS

David P Goldman defended his notability, a step in with his desire to be sole author of his wikipedia article.  I have passed by any number of people of notability level on part with Goldman, and who have had their problems with wikipedia, who have taken the opposite tact — desiring to have their wikipedia articles be gone.  Goldman goes the other way.  It’s not as though the less Goldman – authored piece is detrimental to him.  I think I see part of his motivation around here:
Even Spengler–a reformed La Rouche follower–now legitimate– calls DEBKA crazy.
The key word is “even”.
For Dreyfuss… the answer is ‘no’, and I guess here’s one of his defenders.  He probably has more to gribe about with his wikipedia article, but I guess some things are in his court.

The most random editing attempt happened from a “MAINEiac 4434” who added “Plato Truman”, apparently a candidate in 1986 for Maine’s 1st Congressional district on the US Labor Ticket, to the party’s list.  Will Beback removed this for lack of citation, but I trust the person whose description suggests he’s a keeper of all thins Maine.
The second most random editing attempt came from an ISP # with a history showing unrelated to larouche interests, who in the Larouche Criminal Trials article changed the sentence “Following the convictions, the Larouche movement mounted failed attempts at exoneration” to “following the convictions, the Larouche movement mounted several successful attempts at exoneration, showing Larouche to be the victim of overwhelming cconspiracy.”  It’s all in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.

The discussion between Javen466 and Will Beback over which Plato image best illustrated the “Views” article continued, and may have ended, in its absurd fashion.  Meantime, when Will Beback urged more prominent emphasis on the Queen of England as their “most famous view”, the ISP # (the more larouched one) guarded the house.  He also engaged in a campaign to rid the use of “Columbia Free Press”, a publication he found written by “undergraduates” and full of “flip, jocular, highly biased” citations “designed to ridicule their subjects”.  Bemused, Will Beback asked in relation to “only college graduates” without all that?   Curiously, the ISP # made a great leap on a sentence I would agree with them is dubious and not worthwhile in the article — that the “LPAC appeared to have deliberately copied the look of the barackobama.com website” — the leap being a, perhaps telling, that it “implies unlawful conduct by the editors of LPAC” — which, strictly speaking, no it doesn’t.  Meantime, bits on “Gore’s population reduction” were removed, with the Larochian’s ascension — a sign that Gore is not a person of interest for the moment.  As for the basement team, “We don’t have any third party sources for the basement team.  If we can’t find any mention of this team and the video controversy in Independent sources, maybe we should delete it.”  The Card Table team needs to start referring to the Basement Team in their media interviews.

STORY NUMBER FIVE— DAILY KOS USERS’ OBAMA DISSATISFACTION LEADS TO MOCKING DEBATES ABOUT Larouche

Y’know, it’s funny.  People are checking this stuff out and finding some amusement.

After having my normal reality tunnel assaulted today during a seemingly innocent trip to the Post Office, I’ve just spent the last several hours immersed in the world of Lyndon LaRouche… now, I’m not endorsing any of this personally, some of it reeks of Mr Rightism and other parts of it seem to make a bit of sense and sombunall is at the very least, entertaining […]

Here’s some enjoyable light reading, its Larouche’s “Lies about Larouche” page.  I guess it was supposed to debunk rumors and build credibility for Larouche but its so full of conspiracy stuff that it does the opposite.  He accuses Kissinger and Wolfowitz of masterminding 9/11 too. […]  That’s who is spreading lies about LaRouche. You hear them repeated, often by people who don’t know their source, but who would rather be
overheard repeating these lies, because they think it will make them popular.

(It left out Albert Pike’s place in the conspiracy.)

It was not so long ago that we relied on the LaRouchians (LaRouchites? LaRouchistanis?) for our R.D.A. of full blown loony arsed gibberish spigots and spouters of conspiracy theories so deranged Mulder and the dudes of The Smoking Gun would perform a brilliant display of synchronized eye rolling disguised as a political party.
Oh, how times have changed.
[…]
They. Still. Have. Their. Chops.

Shorter LaRouche PAC Flyer I Found on the Train: We must remove President Obama from office because he took our spaceships so meteorites can kill everyone! Dead!

They take further glee in looking around the larouchian literature, laughing at this:

During a meeting held in “The Basement,” to review the aftermath of the contents of the LPAC Weekly Report for yesterday, we discussed the revolutionary implications of certain astonishing recent developments in the Crab Nebula, developments to which I had alluded in my concluding remarks for that occasion.

Then again:
Lyndon is kind of hard to figure out sometimes , but he’s a well meaning fellow in my opinion. I went to a Schiller Institute gathering with a friend in 2001. Most of their proposals are pretty complicated for a working class stiff like myself, but very interesting to contemplate.

A punchline:  I have no doubt that Bachman will be adopting this verbatim as her platform in the primaries. Similar punchline to:
I heard a rumor that a splinter group of the Larouche crowd has an exploratory comittee already returning favorable information for this guy as an independent candidate to unseat the obama regim. As well:
Ron Paul, LaRouche, Buchanan, Duke even. All would have been our greatest and finest Presidents, I think.

Yeah, well, everyone chooses their heroes:

Sounds as though this Mike Norman person is the Lyndon LaRouche of monetary economics.
Actually Lyndon LaRouche has his own brand of economics, and yes, it is pretty bizaare.
Swizzle Tree complemented their drugs with Larouche, or vice versa:
Ah yes, Swizzle Tree. The ones who voted most likely to make DGS famous in the yearbook. First off, I can GUARANTEE you that they were high while they were performing. I’m still friends with most of these guys and, even though some of them have subscribed to  the Lyndon Larouche newsletter, I always thought they had musical chops.

What’s interesting is that there’s a schism in attitude emerging at dailykos.  After this statement—

Who cares? No, he’s a craven, caving, wimpy, weasel and that’s all there is to it. Next time I’m voting for LaRouche.
Interestingly enough, for at least one person the give away that it was all a ruse.  But maybe it shouldn’t have been.  You know there’s trouble abrewing because this question could see its place in a free republic forum.

Fun Quiz Time: Daily Kos recommended comment, or Lyndon Larouche?
That’s not an honest question, frankly.

The author clarifies in the comments section one item: Larouche does have that weird science fiction thing going on. That’s one difference I omitted.

Could have gone all over the place here.  There are other omissions which would have told the difference moreso than mentions of Money Elite ruling over the System.  The commenters also describe larouchies who have surfaced at dailykos, some “out” — interesting to note:

I must confess openly that my point of views about currency systems follows the vein of what has been expressed by Bill Still and Lyndon LaRouche.

Is that something you can do in polite society?

Other things not common to daily kos commenters:

But if the NWO doesn’t want Putin in power then we should want the opposite, shouldn’t we?
Perhaps, then, his crime (Gifford’s would be murderer) wasn’t part of a black operation, and the get-Palin response of Obama’s “re-election committee” was just opportunism.

As Lyndon LaRouche noted today, the desperate current occupant of the White House seems intent on announcing his wish to be re-elected–before he is thrown out of office.

And is this guy, upset with Pete Olson,  ready for another Kesha Rogers run?

STORY NUMBER ONE:  OLIVER STONE’S SORT OF FAMOUS SON BRINGS TOGETHER HISTORIC MEETING BETWEEN THE LYNDON LAROUCHE MOVEMENT AND ALEX JONES

But… But… But…

If you listen to LaRouche you will understand “Who is the Enemy”, and what is the solution to the control of our nation. Jones just likes to scare people and make it seem as if the enemy is all powerful. He is full of shit. …

Certainly a red-letter day in the recent history of this org.  It’s a match up that the public has been begging for, and believing probable.  See here:  Hey Alex, very good points. I’m an Argentinean and they run the same experiment in my country 10-15 years ago. We definitely know all of this by heart guys… It’s VERY real. They took our pension funds, invested them, crashed them. All the time selling it as it was a great thing.
I’ve been following you for the last 6 years, and I keep wondering why you don’t join forces with the Larouche gang: Just asking.

It’s The question David Icke forum participants wondered some time ago.
And our dear friend, Cliff Kincaid, comes closer to the truth — and Tom DeWeese.
And Webster Tarpley and his confessed “break away”, and previous intimations from Jones and articles on his website that the Oligarchy is using the Larouche Cult as a boogey man to side-step 9/11 Truth and Malthusian plots goes by the way-side.  As does the phrase “Credulous populist media“, and the warning to the org not to trust this sector of information (even while posting to the comments sections on “Webcast Day”s).

Jeff Steinberg, already a staple on Iranian Press TV, pops up on Alex Jones, and is followed by Hollywood Celebrity, Sean Stone, son of Oliver Stone, and if you listen to Jones’s clip, you will see Jones state that Stone is the one who suggested he bring on Jeff Steinberg,  (Did Sean Stone drug up with Charlie Sheen sometime recently?)

Does anybody want to know what Sean Stone’s view on what’s happening is, really?  (Apparently more people than want to know Jeff Steinberg’s views on things.)  Solar Spot activities intensifying, electromagnetic waves, the Giant Moon — 100 percent that’s what did it –and the issue of the “End Game and End Times converging” as the Mayans suggested, all not hidden about the Masons particularly interested in the Book of Revelations… Ancient Egyptians and Mayans and Sumerans understood all this better and…

Now I understand Larouche’s current issue … it’s a means of getting traction with a contingency of nutty b level Hollywood celebrity figures — all of um have money.   And it is a strange clash from this:

Ok you guys. Honestly I love you guys and believe in what you stand for. I know that is important to advance your technology for the greater good. By making these video’s people start to think that you guys are a little cooky. I personally love you guys but right now your prime focus should be on the issues at hand, and preventing the New World Order from consuming your country and putting us into the next dark age. You are not going to win the fight by posting this stuff.

I think it’s far more kooky to watch pro sports, worship celebrities, watch tv, and post vacuous comments on Facebook than it is to talk like this. This is real and this is what actually matters, not your gossip, fashiow show, snob culture.

@procack1 You are thinking with a fear mindset. This video present brilliant visions for mankind. Anybody who thinks they are ‘cooky’ isn’t watching their videos anyways, so they are irrelevant. (har de har)  LPAC members are presenting literally the best logical realistic solution for the major world problems. The visions that they offer are going to be what will save mankind and put us in a new Golden Age, we must think long term, centuries ahead, to regain our optimism and love of our God given genius.

Or, in Stone’s case… Hollywood nepotism? Hm.

the deceivers are going to come out of the woodwork and they will appear to be on our side and use alternative media to push their agenda
we have to be EXTRA vigilant right now

That dude is on that cocaine son! He couldn’t form a coherent thought. It looked like Alex knew something was off. He got a little uncomfortable and didn’t let the guy speak too long.
Oh I was talking about Steinberg by the way. Sean Stone was right on the money. Levitation what!
wtf is this guy talking about? Ghosts and demons..what a bunch of bullshit. I hope AJ isn’t becoming Coast to Coast AM.

Next up for Mr. Jones — “The Office of Net Assessment “.  Right?
Anyway… Kremlinology time… Steinberg does Jones.  Schlanger does Cleagel again.  So who references Steinberg and who references Schlanger out there?
Larouche next week.  The merger… is coming fast and furiously.

Only last night I came across this…
A discussion on the existential crisis of our civilisation.
“The Rim of Fire, the Mass Strike, and the Crisis of Civilization.” Hosted by Harley Schlanger.
Many out there, like Revolution Harry, are pretty well convinced this denouement has been planned for centuries.
Looks to me they are one and the same.  Take you pick.

Shields in California and Kesha Rogers in Texas, have escalated their campaigns on campuses in the two states, to mobilize them to join us in implementing the LaRouche Plan, to address the intersecting galactic and financial crises.  There is a new degree of openness among students — and faculty members, including especially those in the sciences — as it has become clear to them that merely squawking against budget cuts will not bring about a solution. The new urgency for action, from the galactic crisis, is striking a raw nerve, as they are coming to realize that their future now depends on them taking action, as they can no longer rely on an older generation, the Boomers, to act for the future.
More on that later.

To Protect Our Nation From the Galaxy’s Challenge to Our Existence, Obama Must Be Removed From Office.
March 30, 2011 (EIRNS)—”The existence of humanity is being challenged,” stated Lyndon LaRouche in his opening statement on the Lyndon LaRouche PAC (LPAC) …
In a later period of the discussion, LaRouche PAC Basement team leader Sky Shields detailed, with graphic representation, some of the leading satellite technologies which Obama has taken down, and which have otherwise been taken out of service for lack of a U.S. or European commitment. While done in the name of “saving money,” Shields said, these takedowns can only be understood as intentional moves toward implementing Obama’s British master’s drive for genocide.

It’s what’s got Sean Stone excited, and that’s all that matters, this game of “Galaxy Quest”.

LaRouche democrat Diane Sare reports from the the Oyster Creek nuclear power plant, exposing the anti-nuclear, genocidal agenda of Barack Obama and his New Jersey co-thinker, Gov. Chris Christie.  Yeah, if Jones can meet with Steinberg, why not?

Satan’s Fake Apocolypse chimes in here.   Check this out — it’s hilarious!  First we start with this story:   KABUL — Violent protests over the burning of a Koran spread to the heart of Taliban country Saturday, as clashes between demonstrators and Afghan police in Kandahar left at least nine people dead and more than 90 injured, according to Afghan officials.
And his response:

The only solution to this is Glass-Steagal,
Cures rashes too!  This guy’s funny.

On the contrary, I suspect that this crisis was planned long ago in order to provide the oligarchy with “undeniable evidence” that nuclear power is inherently dangerous.

Howie G chimes in here.  To tell the truth, from that perspective, I don’t think Obama would be noticed at all.

STORY NUMBER THREE —   THEY LOVE THEM IN SAN FRANCISCO!!!:  

What is interesting is that this gets a bit of a contrast with what the LPAC is publishing on the SAME EVENT.

Obama, explained a young woman with tidy braids, was failing to protect us from imminent earthquakes by not preparing us with the needed “infrastructure.” And this, she said, was despite repeated warnings from the Russians that an earthquake is on its way.
“We’re shutting down programs to send manned satellites into space,” explained her male compatriot.
The satellites, he said, could help us predict earthquakes, which was ever more important, “after what happened in Japan.”
Obama, he continued, is “destroying what makes the human species unique from all other forms of life,” and “condemning the human species” by failing to adequately prepare California, and the United States, for a large earthquake.
Building up steam, he said, Obama was failing to invest in research that would shed light on how the solar activity relates to tectonic activity.
“We know there’s a correlation, but we don’t know what,” he said
The LaRouchies claimed—and still do—that we’re in for another Ice Age. But go ahead.
“Everyone has been really nice so far,” he said cheerfully. “Even people within the city.”
Which makes sense when you think about it. San Francisco has adopted Frank Chu as its unofficial mascot, made the World Famous Bushman a tourist attraction, and bemusedly watches local nudists Lloyd and Rusty strut their stuff through the Castro.

Yeah, well…  In what may be the greatest touché in history, my Democratic sister just sent me this video in response to the one I posted earlier of Lyndon LaRouche.  It is of an, um, passionate Republican candidate for local treasurer in Stark County, OH speaking at a forum (needless to say he was less than victorious.)  I am rendered speechless.  Please tell me it was an April Fools’ Joke.

Ron Paul! Because the Democrats had Lyndon LaRouche first…

I should have been a tad more verbose in my reactions. It’s been pretty well established that LaRouche is a complete whackjob, but I’d be VERY reluctant to paste that tag on Ron Paul.

Pat Buchanan is just an older less gay version of Glenn Greenwald. They used to work together and both share a fringe LaRouche affinity. I think the word “Larouche” is being used as an adjective here, and not referencing the man himself.

I love this one.  In reference to the “Boldness” of a Senate Freshman.

Matt, you could say the same thing about a screed published by Lyndon LaRouche. The guy may be bold, but you don’t want him in government. The last thing we need is a George Bush “Freedom Agenda” protege seeking to convert the great

I think this is a mistake.

The Rockewell Libertarians put Hilter mustaches on everyone. (Looking at the Left has all pictures)

I’m certainly no fan of Lyndon LaRouche or the idiotic comparisons of Obama and hitler, but if this crowd had risen up and killed these security guards and cops, and I was on the jury for their murder trial, I wouldn’t have voted to convict. Good news for the Alaska activist, I guess.

Once again, the faithful followers of Lyndon Larouche were present to tout their program of impeachment, restoration of the Glass-Steagall Act, and massive reindustrialization, including a huge expansion in nuclear power — just a hair out of touch, you reckon? That’s the meaning of the “Smash the Solar Panels” slogan above.

They love ’em in East Bay!

Not only was this toddler upset, but numerous pedestrians enjoying a sunny spring day on Park Street and Central Avenue in Alameda were angered […] Police were summoned after a woman tossed her frozen drink on the the controversial photo illustration of Obama.

STORY NUMBER FOUR:  WHY DON’T THE WIKIPEDIANS EVER ASK THAT QUESTION ABOUT HATS?

Quick David Goldman update before we proceed: Will Beback more or less converted the Goldman article back, and the isp # which floated in amongst the referenced David Goldman identity changed it all back.  This is going places!

The neat thing about Slim Virgin’s failed attempt to put Jeremiah Duggan into the main article is that amongst the ordinary run of the mill Wikipedians saying “no”, we also got some Larouchians out of the woodwork.  As in, an editor who has quit editing, announced loudly, but came back Just for this purpose (probably from Wikipedia Review) and to give this passive aggressive note in editing, than having it reverted, the Jeremiah Duggan deletion at “Larouche Movement”:

I prefer to remove unfounded accusations, you prefer to add them back. I’m moving on, as I don’t obsess over LaRouche.

Also noted, a neat little isp # who has never edited anything but Larouche articles, and made a somewhat random attack of James Wales.
And chimes in complaining about how the article handles the “Party Line” issue:”

This wiki article sums up an unproven, slanderous, biased and highly personal opinion “by “he” I mean all LaRouche followers; internal dissent is not a big number with them” into the sentence “LaRouche’s views are the party line of the LaRouche movement.” This is first, Kaul’s own opinion (I doubt he seriously checked it) and can by no means be summed up the way it is done here, it is too weak for this purpose. I don’t know why you are constantly coming up with the WLYM article, which by the way just uses bare facts and which you did not even link properly. 😉

“Other Choices” believes that “this material deals with allegations of typical behavior from the 1970s and 1980s, and gives the misleading impression that this old stuff is representative of current practice.”  Huh.

To a question posed about how to handle the articles, and the “big one” — to what degree are Lyndon Larouche and the Lyndon Larouche inseparable, I can suggest one interesting item of note.

The Jewish 22-year-old had become mixed up with a right wing group called La Rouche before he died.
But Mrs Duggan claims despite collating new evidence from eyewitnesses who claim to have seen Jeremiah being attacked before he died, the German authorities refuse to do anything about it.

JN466 has become fond with using Scott McLemee’s little piece about Larouche for reference in the wikipedia section.  This presents the promise of, puzzlingly enough, having a section in the wikipedia articles devoted to the book “Dialectical Economics”, since this makes for two references of some notability.  (Sigh).

In figuring out how to attack the “Verdi Initiative”, SilverSeren chimes in on:
Actually there’s no point in comparing the Verdi Initiative and Duggan.  The former is something that Larouche was personally involved in and has been a major part of his life.  The latter is an event that brought large amount of criticism to his movement, but really didn’t affect his personal life at all, which is why it should be covered in the movement article.

Actually half of the Larouche articles have no business existing.

To this WIll Beback statement, So he spoke about it in his TV commercials. He also used those expensive platforms to address a number of other initiatives (including the colonization of Mars), to declare that Carter intended to initiate thermonuclear war of reelected, and to declare that Walter Mondale was an agent of Soviet influence. I’m not saying that it’s inconsequential or shouldn’t be included somewhere in the encyclopedia. I’m just saying that it in the scope of this biography it’s a minor initiative. I’ve proposed before that we cover all his minor initiatives, like the Verdi tuning and the Mars colonization, in a single paragraph.

comes Silverseren with:  In English, this means “I’m so glad that you’re willing to allow space for more of the crazy things LaRouche has supported and more remarks that make him look like a nutcase.” I think that’s a pretty good translation. We don’t care about WP:BLP here, let’s find all of the most horrible things about LaRouche that we can, are you with me? :D :D 😀 (/sarcasm…but only that last sentence.

If you deem those “crazy things” that’s your business.

It is true that sometimes we seem to go out of our way to make him look kooky. Part of the problem here is a temptation to seize upon good one-liners in press sources rather than available books that present his ideas in context. Where more deeply researched analysis is available, we should use it. —JN466 21:36, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

LaRouche’s attacks on Carter were not just off-hand one-liners: they were the basis for two of his presidential campaigns.   Will Beback talk 02:21, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
In many cases, I think reporters were simply mystified. For example, I came across one article from 1981 about LaRouche’s surprising defense of a liberal congressman, Harrison A. Williams, caught selling influence in the Abscam sting. Criticizing the investigation and doubting that the Senate would have enough moral courage to exonerate Williams, LaRouche is quoted as writing
There are members of Congress on both sides of the aisle so degenerate or so swayed by political opportunism that they variously promote or condone policies more hideous in their consequences than those perpetrated by Albert Speer and others under Adolf Hitler.
That’s an odd thing to for someone defending a Senator accused of bribery to write. I guess LaRouche’s point may have been that mere bribery is mild compared to the indescribable, unnamed atrocities condoned by other congressmen.   Will Beback talk 08:10, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

The most amusing debate that popped up over the past couple weeks concerned images of Plato and Aristotle for use.  JN466 wants one image in as “it does a good job of illustrating the Plato / Aristotle debate that Larouche references so much” and “the point is that this image illustrates the precise philosophical debate that Larouche makes so much of — Aristotle pointing at the ground; Plato pointing the sky.”
This is part of JN466’s overall project in arguing to the neoplatonist philosophy, which is the “intellectual foundation of his movement, is not even mentioned in the Views article at present, despite the fact that the 24 page chapter on Larouche in George Johnson’s” [book] covers it.

Apparently the AIDS crisis was a (gasp) British plot?  LaRouche has alluded ambiguously to this before in his conspiracy theories, but in this video it becomes shockingly explicit: http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17802

In the end:  “The group itself refers to its methods of harrassment and denunciation as a ‘psywar technique’ and defends them as necessary to shake people up’ Johnson has written that believing the general population to be hopelessly indoctrinated by the mass media, they “fight back with words that stick in one’s mind like shards of glass.”  “Why be nice?  We’re in a war and the human race is up for grabs.”
… An info-war, if you will…

No one bit of Slim Virgin’s suggestion to emphasize the Larouchian attitude on the “British”, except a “Gonfaloniate”, who sums everything up well enough:  “I figured I’d stop by and mention that for those who are only peripherally aware of Larouche’s existence (like myself), bringing his name up in conversation will probably elicit, ‘Oh, that guy from the 70s and 80s who thinks everything is a British conspiracy?”

STORY NUMBER FIVE: THE GREAT DEBATE CONTINUES!!!

Observing a rash οf Anti-Zionist news. Arе thе core issues really being challenged? Iѕ thе Anti-Zionism јυѕt a cover οr a distraction? Iѕ Zionism a symptom, аnd аrе thе produce(s) being ignored?

Thеrе wіll bе nο jewish revolution even though thеrе аrе many whο аrе disgruntled.

1776Matthew If I …
@1776Matthew If I could convince you to read one thing by LaRouche, look for a 1978 “Campaigner” article called “The Secrets Renowned Only to the Inner Elites,” (free pdf online) which goes into splendid point about how Judaism was one of many “polymorphous” cults made in ancient Babylon. It has lasted so long by being (by all accounts) monotheistic. But you can find Judaic principles in many other cults and religions.

@deadeyedick1933 I don’t completely trust LaRouche. He puts out some excellent info from time to time, but it is certainly to be taken with a grain of salt.

CIA, SAS, Wal-Mart… Sure, there are some shabbos goys involved in all this. But all these “intelligence agencies” and “secret societies” have their roots in jewish subversion. The judaic nature of Freemasonry is well documented. The whole global “zeitgeist” is judaic. Usury, fraud, deception, aggression, decadence….

…………………….

Yeah, well… this seems to float in as well…

Here I am, deep in Power Elite territory. I cannot give out personal information, details as to people, places, or activities. That would be my death knell and a step back for World Peace. Not that I am a key player or anything, but I am sure it is comforting to find out a little news can come from the opposing front lines every once in a while.

I contacted Doctor Sternum a little while ago. I used a hacker program from one of my Newby Power Elite friends from my boarding school days that I trust implicitly.

I modified an existing message in his inbox on February 17, 2011: “Dear Doctor Sternum. I am Agent Power Elite. I am on the inside. They are now scrambling. Watch!”
In other items:

This is not a “controversial case” by any real definition.
They remember it! March 27, 1986… a red letter day in the history of WORLD CIVILIZATION.
The Larouchies tie the two cases together too.  Though not so much thematically as the case is here.

Bob Dreyfuss… again and again.

ENOUGH!
While neoconservatism and the literal fascists may be travelling different roads, their ultimate destination (as determined by their common root premise) is the same.  All that differs is the scenery — and as the destination is approached, not even that.  (That, by the way, is why the arguments over whether such as Jared Loughner  or the Texas IRS plane crasher were “left” or “right” wing, are such a joke; the “scenery” of their writings would have been unremarkable in any of the following: Free Republic, Democratic Underground, the commenters at Zero Hedge, or the groupies of Lyndon Larouche and Ron Paul.)

But good for:

Meg Whitman’s failed bid for California governor hilariously sucked $178.5 million out of her wallet, but a Trump presidential spending spree would be funnier than Lyndon LaRouche’s diary.
Ron Paul is a meepbag in the mold of Lyndon Larouche. Some of what he says sounds legit, but mostly he’s a hole.
I think “LaRouche” is French for Fruit Loop.
I think Paultards are disenfranchised LaRouchies.
Most people aren’t stockpiling gold or seeds. Gold often appeals to older people whose parents drilled the lessons of the Great Depression into their heads. The only person I know personally who is planting his own garden “just in case” is a big Larouche guy, not a conservative.

George Shollenberger seems to have Seasame Street in his mind here.

The other form of dark energy is presented by theological scientists who believe in God. The ‘Big Thinkers’ on this dark matter are theologian scientists such as Abraham, Moses, Anaxagoras, Plato, Aristotle, Jesus Christ, Anselm, Nicholas of Cusa, Johannes Kepler, Galileo, Gottfried Leibniz, Pierre-Louis Moreau de Maupetuis, Ben Franklin, Bernhard Riemann, Georg Cantor, Ernst Cassirer, Suzanne Langer, Kenneth Burke, and Lyndon LaRouche.

Hey…  You lose me at this sentence:

Frank’s somewhat humorous response to the woman was perhaps not politically savvy, because in general politicians should not appear frustrated in public; moreover, the video ended up circulating on the Intertubes for months (an important issue for public speakers that we’ll take up later in the book).

Savvy enough.

Nothing particularly notable, but things do accumulate.

STORY NUMBER ONE:  Possible Vice Presidential Timber?

In all my speculation for the post Larouche death presidential bid, which centers on the congressional candidates of Kesha Rogers,  Rachel Brown, Summer Shields, Diane Sare, Dave Christie, and Bill Roberts — Kesha Rogers the obvious Front-runner, I’ve not come up with any idea of who might fill out the bottom half of the ticket.  The Vice Presidential selection needs to be someone used to subordination who won’t outshine the top of the ticket, who can do the retail politicking that you see at the Cardtable Tour, and probably should follow the tradition of Spiro Agnew in slinging shots at anything that might be construed as “The Media”.

San Rafael brings us Possibility number one. 
It gets really weird at the 1:30 mark, where the Larouche representative shares that he is 2,000 years old.  His partner in the performance, in his “Thou Shall Not Wank” (crosses the pond) comment, skips toward, rather randomly, twitter.  Why did twitter pop in his head?  Who knows?  And no, I can’t make heads or tails of this. 

This is a little strange.

As we walked out onto Meridain Street after getting our hands stamped, I noticed a Tea Bagger with a three foot by four foot sign of our president on a stick. On the photo of Barack Obama they had painted a Hitler mustash. I was transfixed by this. I felt a violent anger rise in me. It’s one thing for these Glen Becker’s to blindly follow what Limbaugh and Glen Beck tell them to do all with the belief that Jesus Christ is behind thier self-rightousness, but to do this right where families and kids are merrily anticipating fun is another.

I was torn. I wanted to stay open to this man’s viewpoint. Maybe I could finally learn the True nature of Jesus Christ by inoculating myself into the Glen Beck, MIchael Savage, and Rush Limbaugh crowd, and fight for things that go against my own best interests. Canda had other ideas.

Okay.  Confusion with the Tea Party.  Happens here and  abouts — Berkley for instance, and they deign a bit of this confusion.   But later…

 The glazed over look in his eyes reminded me of the woman in the lynchmob of a crowd for John McCain referring to Obama as a Arab. As Mr. Sheep moved, so did Canda. She got right in his face. I was surprized. Amused too. To act like he could not hear her he started using a trick that I’d seen kids use. As Canda talked he started sing songing to cover her voice. Da ta data da ta da ta da, he sang. I stood there studying this guy trying to figure this out. What would make someone think it would be a good idea to get a sign of Obama with a big Hitler mustash and go down to Meridian thinking he could get people to jump on the Lyndon LaRouche band wagon? He looked like a trapped parakeet. I started to feel sorry for the unmade bed.

So he’s identified the Larouche.  Does he think his org is an organic part of the “Tea Party”?  And so…

Lots of weird shit has come my way in supermarket/strip mall parking lots. Yesterday some Lyndon LaRouche people were hanging in one I was at  with pictures of the current lying asshole “president” with a little Hitler mustache on him and a table with a banner that said “Re-Enact Glass Steagal.”     I headed right over to meet these interesting people with the good ideas.  I didn’t know how it really is with old Lyndon..     I checked him out to see what the fuck he wanted to do and my “Elron Hubbard Sun Myung Moon Peoples Temple” alarm went off.    So, anyway……never mind, just another rich fuck with a cult to pound on.
[…]  I never will again, unless they try out the topless dancing girls to attract minions.

STORY NUMBER TWO:  SPOTLIGHT ON PRO LAROUCHIE SENTIMENT

Ace Revenire Retour once, or twice, griped — incorrectly — that I (and xlcer) leave out pro-larouche commenters and give out only anti-Larouchie commenters.  Once again, here I go:

Pro Larouchie Number One, who links to “How Venice Rigged the First and Worst Global Financial Collapse” — as published by the Schiller Institute.:  WORLD HISTORY as grabbed by Larouche.  The crash, which peaked in A.C.E. 1345 when the world’s biggest banks went under, “led” by the Bardi and Peruzzi companies of Florence, Italy, was more than a bank crash ~ it was a financial disintegration. Like the disaster which looms now, projected in Lyndon LaRouche’s “Ninth Economic Forecast” of July 1994, that one was a blowup of all major banks and markets in Europe, in which, chroniclers reported, “all credit vanished together,” most trade and exchange stopped, and a catastrophic drop of the world’s population by famine and disease loomed.
Regretably, the links to other articles covering this lost history, Jewish Sabbateans Rule the World for Satan Parts 1 and 2, have been removed for violation of service.  Hard to say what wordpress objected to jewsribsinbearjaw.wordpress.com.  But, you know,  to quote Thoreau … and hey de ho.

Pro Larouchie #2:  Commenting on the film “House of Rothschilds“, an old youtube video which robotic aggregators plopped 25 comments into a splog.

You are a poorly informed individual filled with conditioning & prejudice. Who financed the Slave ships? Who brought Opium from India to China to enslave them? The Rothschilds. on YT “1932, a true history of the United States” from L La Rouche. Read “Timeline of the Rothschilds” by DB Smith & A Hitchcock. Watch the Lecture on “Brotherhood of Darkness” by Dr Stan Monteith (Google)
Dubya and Kerry were “Bonesmen” , Obama is a “Prince Hall Mason”
The Mason Albert Pike brought us the KKK

Pro Larouchies Number Three — another old youtube video now in splog form:

Start with some pro Tarpley that reads like pro Larouchie!  Tarpley’s ideas come from the American School of Economics>Austrian/Chicago>Keynesian
Webster Tarpley has obviously not read anything at all about Agenda 21

What a fertile intelligence… Tarpley is a true visionary.

@MrHarry46 The difference in himself and you is he isn’t absolutely pessimistic and is offering some solution to the problems.
You’ve already turned over and accepted defeat. That is not healthy.

And hey.  Here’s a crazy idea!  Who could ever think up this one?  Webster Tarpley is one of the very few and as a matter of the fact the Only to save USA, He speaks truth , he is a genius , loyal , a Man of integrity.
He should join Larouche because he speaks exactly the same philosophy.
Love the guy , Bless him!

I have the utmost admiration for Webster Tarpley. I am glad that he mentioned
Henry Ford, who absolutely HATED Wall St. and the Banksters of his day. I
wish that Webster would have also mentioned Alfred P. Sloan, who built General
Motors into the world’s largest company.
It’s sad that we no longer have manufacturing geniuses (or the manufacturing)
with us that we had in bygone years. I sure hope that the USA wakes up soon.

And for another old youtube video — A whole Slew of Pro-Larouche sentiments, as against a few antis!  Wait.  When did the larouche people become a personality cult?

Larouche people have become some sort of personality cult. Its not as bad as they say but even Tarpley sees them in this light. Tarpley is by far more credible than LLR. 

I like Lyndon Larouche, I wish he n Ron Paul would get together be elected president n vice president. LaRouche is even more open than Ron about how the feds are screwing the states n the people. I think our only hope at getting good fed gov though is by putting pressure on all of our state govs to put the feds in their place. Besides if enough states were to be pushed into secession the fed wouldn’t have many toys to use against us. Hopefully it won’t eve come to that though, again.  (So much for the “American System”.)

Yes, he’s on the mark. Even as a hardcore Libertarian (mostly), I see LaRouche’s ideas and policies as largely sound. Including his take on Obama’s personality.

I agree with LaRouche’s assessment of Obama. LaRouche may have his own issues, but he’s RIGHT about the president and current situation. I agree with you that there is no one else who is not a puppet with whom we could replace Obama. I would not go with LaRouche himself as a replacement (which I’ve never heard discussed), but instead go with, perhaps, some of those who are calling out the problems with Goldman Sachs etc. Far fetched, but maybe Ed Griffin Tarpley or G Edward Griffin’s crowd?  

And another Pro- Larouchie

That said, what erked me was the author’s unfounded barbs against me regarding the late Dr. Rashad Khalifa and the American thinker, Lynden H. LarRouche, Jr. The slanders that he flung at these fine individuals does not bear repeating and does his reputation no good. Needless to say, I am no slavish follower of any leader or thinker.

So, some blame to the Jews, some support more for Ron Paul and Webster Tarply, and throw in some qualified support that mentions “Cult”, which seems to be the way the cult itself rolls these days – Dateline Rhode Island College:

One of the activists, who declined to give his name, admitted that the LaRouche group is a cult, but then said, “Catholicism started off as a cult, so you know, in that sense, it is one.” […]
According to Bob Baker, a field correspondent for the LaRouche PAC, they believe Hitler was not responsible for World War II. Instead, it was “the machine.” When asked just what “the machine” was, Baker said it was “The big, nationwide banks who are just trying to make a buck.”

And here is one m0re person, who considers Alex Jones a disinformationalist figure.  …
This article which references Larouche in offering up Obama as the AntiChrist Beast in the Book of Revelations seems to be on friendly terms, though it’s up to you to decide if it qualifies as “pro”.

STORY NUMBER THREE:  WIKIPEDIA MADNESS!

This is pretty amusing.  The last several edits on the David P Goldman wikipedia article were made by David P Goldman.  And the David P Goldman article now reads like a press release.
Causation and Correlation:  Together at last!

As for the cult itself, let’s see what we have here.  Javen466 works hard to get extensive coverage of the Verdi Tuning Initiative into the article.  Will Beback objects with the suggestion that this “deserves less (attention) than the Mars Initiative and much less than the AIDs Initiative.”  Javen466 explains part of the need for the Verdi Tuning Initiative’s place in the scheme of things, and the reason that some of the people backing the idea should have their ethnicity referenced, by suggesting that (paraphrase) “one of the complexities of this man is that he makes statements that many people feel are anti-semitic or Nazist, yet manages to attract Jews and African Americans as personal friends and as members of his organization.”

The personal friends reference points to another reference that Javen466, along with ISP #, wants in — a transparent name drop to a CBS article on Larouche’s presidential run at the age of 83 which was more an inference, “I have a dear friend, almost 92, who was beaten up marching across a bridge in support of MLK.”  Meantime, Javen466 made a buttressing project out of Amelia Boytin Robinson’s article, making several edits on her wikipedia page.

They found some quotes from work by John George and Laird Wilcox to emphasize Dennis King’s PLP past and suggest that he and Chip Berlet are essentially engaged in a long-term Left-wing doctrinal dispute — “this section also explains taht Larouche came from a hotbed of extremism where people fell out with each other very badly and then started criticizing each other.”  Further deigns at qualifying Dennis King’s criticism came in with Daniel Pipe’s quotation.

ISP # and a “Silver Siren” rejected to Will Beback’s assertion, in arguring against references to people as “rivals”, that “Larouche was also expelled from the Democratic Party, but I don’t think that all Democrats are Larouche’s rivals.”  This may be a point of precision, I suppose, as technically nobody’s “expelled” from a political party — even when they can be denied entry into any party function.

On the Views article, they slid in a reference to Ashara Al-Awat for a citation, and on Executive Intelligence Review a reference to Malaysian politician Ahmad Kassim in naming EIR as “just like Reuters”.  Also, say hello to the Larouche published articles “Yes, Hitler Killed Millions of Jews” and “The Murder of 6 Million Jews” [ultimately done by “the machine”, right?], and sought to minimize their associations with the Liberty Lobby — ultimately Javen466 was satisfied with its place in the section in chronology.  A battle moves on over citing something from holocaustresearchproject.com regarding notes taken by Jeremiah Duggan at that infamous Schiller Institute retreat.  Coming shortly, I expect Javen466 and ISP #s will quarrel over Will Beback putting in references from Abraham Foxman’s “Jews and Money: the Story of a Stereotype” under the “Accusations of anti-semitism” sub-heading.

For comedy relief’s sake, in arguing for Larouche to be referenced as an “Economist” in the lede (ultimately defeated — all good and well, as Javen466 decided “I would rather work on adding a sentence to describe what influence he has had abroad”), the “pro” side offered up the bonafide academic peer review article reference in the review from American Economic Review on Dialectical Economics. 

STORY NUMBER FOUR:  ORG SHAMELESSLY SHOVELS JEREMIAH DUGGAN INTO THEIR STUPID “ANALYSIS” ABOUT QADDAFI.

These guys just can’t help themselves, can they?  Somehow they must turn the attention directed at their cult as stemming from a drive to stop their “World Historic Purpose”:

Symons was and remains a point person for Blair and the monarchy, in their “Duggan Affair” campaign against Lyndon LaRouche, a still-ongoing libel campaign that heavily overlapped with the smear campaign against British scientist and weapons inspector Dr. David Kelly, who exposed the “sexed up” Downing Street dossiers on Saddam Hussein to BBC, and was soon after, in July 2003, found dead, an alleged suicide. A group of British doctors has demolished the official Hutton Report that ruled Dr. Kelly’s death a suicide, and their demand for a proper coroner’s inquest is soon to be ruled upon by a British court.

In some ways it’s just one more item in the dizzying assortment clip for cut and paste jobs to any news events.  It dangles there whenever they feel a need to reference the Iraq War and Baroness Symons.  I suppose we have a better idea of the recent Qaddafi image they spit out — the analysis that brings Jeffrey Steinberg onto Iran’s Press TV.  He says nothing, but in his defense there’s a lot of talking heads bobbling up on various tv outlets that say nothing.  Amusing comments to this posting, though.  The first comment here says “Steinberg works for Wall Street. Trust nothing he says. I am disappointed that Press.TV would respect his opinion.”  It’s the advantage and disadvantage of working for something called “Executive Intelligence Review”, I guess.  Second comment more anti-Obama than Steinberg:  GADDAFI IS GOING TO STAY BECAUSE USA IS GOING TO INTERFERE WHICH THE PEOPLE OF LIBYA INCLUDING THE ANTI GADDAFI FORCES CANNOT TOLLERATE — which maybe the org will gravitate toward if Qaddafi does, indeed, pull through — if not for the over-riding need to see a global mass strike through, they probably would.

For the coming reports on Japan and Nuclear power — there’s a three or four step process to this.  Step one is something like this, and a gratuitous reference that anyone opposed to nuclear power is “worse than useless”.  I suppose they’re left standing with Obama’s support of nuclear.  Meantime, people are mining old Larouche material to smash it with other conspiratorial pieces to blame the earthquake as on the “West”, or the British, via HAARP. 

STORY NUMBER FIVE:  WEBCAST Held heralding Irish Election Results, blaming things on Venetians, NOTICED BY NOBODY

Okay, here’s a review.  So there’s something.
In the old days, that is the 1980s — long past the evolution of punk rock into politics and before the rise of cable, the cult would purchase half hour infomercial times on network television.  When I looked it up in news database archives, it appears to have been a smattering of weekend time slots (nobody watches tv Saturday nights) and the Thursdays when NBC had, like, 50 shares with Cosby — Cheers — LA Law.  The Nielson ratings are a hoot — Larouche’s infomercials were last in the ratings, with an audience half the size of the next to last network program.

The virtue of the webcasts is, I guess, they can be done more often.  Also it is the niche aduience, so really only the targetted audience knows the marching orders:   The only alternative to a total dark age, which has been uniquely proposed by economist Lyndon LaRouche, and the Congressional slate of six LaRouche Democrats, is the positive solution you must now fight for Whatever — NAWAPA, maybe?. 

Wait.  Robert Barwick in Australia noticed. 

BONUS FEATURES:  Quiz question.  Quiz Answer.  Really, I think Larouche’s role in Tax Fraud history ought to be in the lede of his wikipedia article. 
One more question:  Will DaRos Democrats take the place of Larouche Democrats?
Jay, I understand the situation you face. These people are dominated by DaRos. They are DaRos Democrats. They are as fanatical and bizarre as LaRouche Democrats. All are willing victims of a personality cult. And the older and weirder the cult leader becomes, be it LaRouche or DaRos, so too the followers engage in more inexplicable acts of contemptible behavior.
Part of it is to prove their loyalty to their Dear Leader. But more and more, its just the tight circle of degeneracy in which they co-exist.
The only way to help these people, and ourselves, is to treat them like patients in need of medical treatment. Isolate them from their highly addictive narcotic (In this case, DaRos) and undertake immediate deprogramming techniques, such as repeatedly telling Chapman-Carbone “There is life after DaRos. The sun will rise even if DaRos says it won’t,” and so on.
There is hope for these poor people! Well, Madam Lambert may have stepped beyond hope into total DaRos worship; but for the rest of the bunch, let’s help them out of the RTM at the next election time, where they will have time to recover from being… “DaRos Democrats.”

It’s in the thought process of this:
Why is anyone paying any attention to has-beens? Lyndon Larouche, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee…….has-been losers of yesteryear. Let’s move on to new & improved losers & gasbags. Tell em, dott

As always, if you feel I missed a big story, let me know.

I gotta say, people were annoying me this week.
From the asshat LaRouche supporters who harassed me outside the post office when I refused their literature (worry not, I unleashed hell on them), to Charlie Sheen refusing to STFU.

A fantastic week or two for some of the people on the Conspiratorial Junket.  Alex Jones.  His good friend, Charlie Sheen, made an appearance on his show.  It was Charlie Sheen’s first media appearance before moving on to every other program on Earth.  A lot can be said about the Charlie Sheen situation, somewhere along the lines of “What is wrong with our culture?” maybe.  Whatever your misgivings in leering over at a car-wreck, you did no worse than Jones — his interview, I think it’s fair to say, falls into the category of “enabling”,  [Note: someone who has to repeat over and over again that they’re ‘winning’ … isn’t really winning.]  was pretty well full of signs that he knew was going to get some further media attention worth capitalizing on in order to further the Alex Jones Brand — and on he went to The View to get in “Takedown of Building Seven!” and “Infowars.com” where he could find the space.

An item of collision has occured with Jones and Beck — meehaps.  Beck’s ratings are tanking, and for the basic reason of partisan political tribalism: Beck’s conspiracies plowed deepest to a political listenership identified with a political party at its low ebb — now that its had some electoral success, perhaps there’s hope after all.  Meantime, who’s Hitler now?

U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown has apologized for a speech in which he invoked the names of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin while he criticized Republican efforts in Ohio and Wisconsin to curtail the power of public-employee unions to bargain with state and local governments.

Yes.  First they came for the Public Employee Unions… right after that, they opened the Concentration Camps.  Just like that!  I note that the Huffington Post comments are pretty much jam packed with “Agree wtih Brown’s original statement.”

For Beck, Mother Jones proposes this question.  It’s a familiar question that arises throughout history when viewing any number of demagouges.   Rolling Stone puts Alex Jones together with Glenn Beck.  The author should have figured that out before he released his Beck book, which is hep enough to stick changes in Cleon Skousen’s evolution with Carroll Quigley as a pivot point. 

Alex Jones and his guests have long covered the history of eugenics, including the role of George Bernard Shaw, the playwright and unabashed eugenicist. Alex’s 2007 documentary film Endgame takes an in-depth look at Shaw, who has been discussed on-air many times, including here. In January, 2010, Glenn Beck’s documentary The Revolutionary Holocaust included the exact same clips of Shaw as those discussed or shown on The Alex Jones Show. Later, Beck would revisit the subject to link eugenics and Fabian Socialists to the London School of Economics and his favorite new target, George Soros.
From the beginning of the recent unrest in Egypt, frequent Alex Jones guest Dr. Webster Tarpley was often on-air discussing the destabilization of Egypt and other nations in the region. In these interviews, Tarpley and Jones discussed the role of U.S., British and Israeli intelligence agencies in the creation and backing of the Muslim Brotherhood. Glenn Beck was soon on TV and the radio giving a similar explanation for the Egyptian protest, with one key and all-too typical twist: In Beck’s telling, it was a leftist-oriented and -inspired revolution led by the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hey.  Wait a minute…  Joel Skousen is a frequent guest on Jones, and he has the galls to go after the man who brought renewed popularity to his uncle.  And so it goes.

Louis Farrkhan spoke before a crowd of thousands for four hours in support of Qaddafi, L Ron Hubbard, in anticipation of popular uprisings in the US akin to the Middle East’s, and to attack pop musician Rihanna.  Say what you will about Farrakhan, but he did speak to a crowd of thousands.  When was the last time Lyndon Larouche gave a speech to thousands of people?
Interesting, as always, the attack on Rihanna garnered Farrakhan the most attention — and a response tweet from Rihanna.  Which suggests the way for a forgettable off-the-mainstream-grid politico to get some media attention is to snipe at a celebrity.  See also, Mike Huckabee and Natalie Portman.
Curious thing about Mike Huckabee’s other quotable for the week.  It’s counter-Larouchian.  Obama is displaying dangerous anti-colonial views in snubbing the British Empire.  He hates Winston Churchill, as his dismounting of a Churchill bust in favor of a Lincoln bust demonstrates.  This meme made its way into the tabloids with a supposed snub by the British family by not inviting him to Prince Philip’s wedding. 

The Queen of England has been in power for nearly sixty years, and nobody besides Lyndon Larouche seems to be complaining about her tenure. Well there are those anti-monarchists in Scotland, but I don’t unfortunately break haggis with those folks often enough to get a personal rant from that p.o.v.

Indeed, the cat is out of the bag from Mike Huckabee and presidential pre-candidate Newt Gingrich:  we’re slithering down the neck of the British Monarchy.  But the fight continues:  we are just days away from the next Lyndon Larouche webcast.  Unfortunately, the rush of web traffic that Alex Jones has garnered from his Charlie Sheen hit will have long subsided, so the usual bombardment of promotional comments on every prisonplanet site at the time of the webcast from larouchies will not get to as many people as it might have just a week ago.

If you think Lyndon LaRouche is crazy, check out a James Dobson newsletter sometime …
Maybe Gene Scott is to Pentecostalism what Lyndon Larouche is to the Democratic Party.

Maybe the Larouche org can gnab some attention with a webcast of Robert Beltran shouting “WINNING” over and over again?  Or, maybe not.

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Wear two buttons over a Lyndon Larouche tank top?

  

@anunnaki2006 the Bush family? If the Bush family were Nazis, why would they be supporting illegal immigration? Why would they be supporting homosexuals? There are no Knights of Malta, but there are Bolshevik/Zionist. The Bush family is controlled by the illuminati, a Jewish imitation of Freemasonry. I bet you don’t know the difference. You’ve been reading too much articles by Lyndon LaRouche, he tries to sidetrack people from focusing on Zionist. it’s a Catholic conspiracy, what a joke

Either blame the pope, blame the healthcare industry, or blindly blame at another uninvolved public figure. Me? I’m going to blame Lyndon LaRouche. Why? I do this entirely at random, but with the confidence that my decision is more apt than blaming an ineffectual, weakling of a president.

looks like more of the general population are catching on to the british schemes….. but a little to late

A debate rages.  Ron Paul 2012… Ron Paul 2012… because, um, Lyndon Larouche is no longer running, and we can somehow ignore that Paul’s Austrian Economics are sort of opposite Roosevelt’s because Paul may be attractive to believers in the International Jewish Conspiracy? 

OBAMA IS A DESCENDENT OF CHARLEMAGNE TOO IF I’M NOT MISTAKEN(THE JEWS DIDN’T WANT THE BLACKS TO KNOW THAT OR THEY WOULD THINK HIM TO WHITE) . THAT IS NOT HIS PROBLEM. HIS PROBLEM IS THAT HE HAS BEEN HANGING OUT WITH TOO MANY JEWISH MANIPULATORS.
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Has Gadhafi Been Reading Lyndon LaRouche?
Dunno.  The more common game people have been playing is “Qaddafi or Sheen?” 
A blast from the past from the Lyndon Larouche Movement, September 1991.
Today, they’re… um… ripping off Solson Publications’ “Daffy Qaddafi” comic book (next up: Reagan’s Raiders!)

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Yeah, EITHER ONE. Donate all of your money to Lyndon LaRouche, grieving friends and family! That’s better than finding a cure for cancer.
“Hmm, how many puppies should we let be euthanized so we can donate this money to Lyndon LaRouche?”

Ask this guy.

In wikipedia news – 
Delia Peabody has finally been deleted (a couple of crude new creations were as well, but they were meant to be immediately deleted) — Cla68 remains as what appears to be the Larouchie Administrator (the other somewhat Larouche defending Administrator, self described anarchist, seems to have his own “wikipedia ideology”.)
Interestingly, Cla68 linked to the yahoo image of the LA “America Systems” office building from yahoo, in urging that maybe more than a handful of people are working there — so maybe the sock-puppets are all types of different people. Either Cla68 read my blog, or had the same impetus to look it up just a bit after I did.  Things get further amusing as s/he refers to the fact that EIR is in google news as a validation for that source.
In requesting the need to get “International Reception” in the article. When paired with getting “more recent” stories in, this leads to British articles over the last decade, Duggan-related. But I guess they have a stash of materials that each merits a sub-category.
For the standby “Must get term Economist in Lede” dispute, a reference is made to a citation from King’s book book for that purpose.  The “Economist in the lede” is currently “support” over “oppose” by a 3 to 2 margin, the balance being tipped by an anonymous isp # whose edits are composed entirely of Larouche items. 

Finally, for “International Reception”, Iranin Press TV continues bringing on Bill Jones of EIR.  If that means anything.  Comments abound: 
I would enjoy it if more reputable sources were found and engaged.
Probably can be argured into wikipedia.

Maybe you disagree with my choices of stories?  Ah well.  Maybe next time, I’ll have your pet story up.  (I don’t know what else shifts in the blogo and news sphere.)  Also, this is something of a “count up” — 1 to 5 instead of 5 to 1.

STORY NUMBER ONE
WIKIPEDIA DELETES ANOTHER OF THOSE AMERICAN SYSTEM NON-PROFIT VOLUNTEERS:  The biggest news story of the past couple of weeks — or week and a half depending on when I get around to post this — is, of course… world exclusive here, unless HK and Cla69 were ranting about it at wikipedia review — THE SOCK PUPPET Angel Flight account has been deleted.

By pushing this as the BIGGEST LAROUCHE NEWS STORY OF THE MOMENT, I am getting a head start on my theory of post Larouche death organizational shiftings — which is that a substantial portion will become unhinged off of the need to be tethered down by the weight of “Larouche” and float into the sphere of the Conspiracy Advocacy ala Tarpley, and that which remains fighting for the 1000 Year Legacy of the name Larouche will be devoting about 75 percent of its resources to editing wikipedia articles.  (There’s still room in the remaining 25 percent to the post office tour, and etc.)

Cla68 is amazingly obtuse on the matter of “Angel’s Flight”, and seems strikingly interested in getting information back to the Larouche organization:  Will, you and SV have said that this company where the edits supposedly originated (and no evidence of it has yet been presented) is “small”. Could you tell me how many people work there? If you don’t know, then how can you be so sure that HK was the person running the account? I can’t be sure based on “behavioral” evidence, because you have refused to share your evidence with me. What was the reason for that? Cla68 (talk) 23:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Your Larouche team clings mightily to their stray “validator” sources of succor:
@Cla, you have been concerned there was no POV pushing from Angel’s flight (Af). I saw some. Here is the LaRouche position something from Executive Intelligence Review (a LaRouche publication): “Obama’s so-called health-care reform, modelled as it is on both the Nazi T4 and the British NICE model, is riddled with procedures which will permit the cutting of care, from the comparative effectiveness studies to the Accountable Care Organizations. But the chief measure, as Office of Management and Budget chief Peter Orszag is at pains to stress, is the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), previously known as the Independent Medicare Advisory Board (IMAB), and popularly known as “death panels.”[4] Af came to death panel and would support text that overstated things (to LaRouche’s benefit). Here’s me calling Af’s POV out. Af was trying to link the IPAB (and NICE) to the word death panel by overstating-sources & giving undue weight, in my opinion. They took a mini-break then returned by adding back some OK content, but also some content (off-topic and Gratzer) that had already been decided against, fyi. Jesanj (talk) 17:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Jesanj, please don’t call something a “LaRouche position” which is discussed more widely by many more http://healthcarereform.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001528 participants than just LaRouche. 81.210.206.223 (talk) 18:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

That’s interesting, Angel’s flight pointed out that source too. Jesanj (talk) 20:15, 18 February 2011

Anyway… From this lofty building in Los Angeles  — which, as described by Angel’s Flight is a non-profit from which he volunteers, the future of the Larouche faction of the Larouche organization marches into the future.

For what it is worth:
Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $500,000 to $1 million and employs a staff of approximately 1 to 4. Companies like American System Publications usually offer: Sweethaven Publishing Services, Web Publishing Services, American Publishers Service, Von Holtzbrinck Publishing Services and Educators Publishing Services.

But that’s less interesting than these anecdotes about how annoying their phone calls can be.

I do like Slim Virgin’s almost suggestion to, more or less, cut the sources down to Washington Post and the New York Times — currently the Larouchies at wikipedia are edging in meetings with World Leaders  — as they shift through sources on who they met in Latin America, it lead to this comment:

Come on, Will, push! Push that POV! How close together are the contractions? Pachuco cadaver (talk) 15:43, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Which leaves us to Delia Peabody wanting to expand the “international coverage” of Larouche’s “2007-2008 forecast” and the Kesha Rogers victory.  (Why not the role of the Vault to overthrow Rachel Brown’s victory?)  The funniest line from the crypto-Larouchies, picked up by the vanished straight-up Larouchies, is the request to “down-play 70s era critics”.  I suppose we can skip that King’s book was published in the next decade, but this is by way of nipping away the NY Times articles that spring from the org’s first foray into any mainstream attention — oh, Chris White Affair.
I guess things all depend on where you place that “Overton Window”.  (heh heh on library offerings.)   This person’s request is interesting.  While he focuses on  a lot of “former” LaRouchies or many of the Democratic Party bigshots who were student radicals, the article focus suggests an element of where the one dimensional paradigm falls apart for your two peas in a pod.  Is that an allusion to this Tarpley… who, um — more press than his former cult?  Peddler of conspiracies or conspiracy theories?  (For the latter: Remember this?)

I’ll preface this piece by saying I support, and am wildly entertained by, all forms of political participation. Except terrorism, which I hate. There is a place in America for Lyndon Larouche, an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist whose Larouche Movement is driven by pots-and-pans-banging college students on the backs of flatbed trucks.
I’m sure there a few Fabianists out there who are patiently waiting for scientists to create a serum that will hasten the arrival of a socialist utopia.
I’m pretty sure they hate being aligned onto this segment of the spectrum, which goes against the grain of some conspiracies they’ve found over the years:

The Corporation”, attempted coup by wealthy Free Market Laissez-Faire industrialists’ “American Liberty League”, beginnings of what’d later be called “Libertarian Party” and Libertarianism, (ie Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Lyndon Larouche) …

This one might be better, though.

I can see why though. It reads like Lyndon Larouche who once bought half an hour of TV time to run for president and rambled incoherently about Classical politicians and philosophers. Posted February 17, 2011 at 12:48:58 PM …
… even th0ugh it hints at the Larouchies’ problems in “skewing” wikipedia articles to the “latest”.

… Y’know, about this next article:  I don’t trust a pop culture study that cites “Dope Inc” and Texe Marr. Also, this strikes me as the type of person that should be identified next to Larouche — the right genre.  If not these people.

In other wikipedia news… this.

… Come to think of it, the reference to “former Larouchies” might be referencing this guy.

STORY NUMBER TWO: LOS ANGELES CROSSWORD PUZZLE MASTER SNUBS THOUSAND YEAR GENIUS IN FAVOR OF HOCKEY GREAT
The second biggest story to ROCK the Larouche Movement over the past week and a half or two weeks, depending on when I post this — Lyndon Larouche was snubbed by the LA Times crossword puzzle-master Peter Wentz.

58A: ’70s-’80s NHLer known as “Lucky Pierre” (LAROUCHE). I’m not a hockey fan, but this one was easy enough to get from the crossing entries. I can understand why Peter & Rich wanted to avoid a reference to Lyndon Larouche and his Band of Merry Men.

I kept plugging away and finished most of it, but had no idea who Larouche was – so I Googled Lucky Pierre – that was a big mistake! Cheers to all – and enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Reports are coming in that some are saying that the Larouche organization reacted with fury upon seeing that their 1,000 Year Genius was snubed for a mere Hockey Great.  The movement came close to protesting in front of the LA Times headquarters with images of the crossword puzzle masters with Hitler mustaches, or so say some from unspecified reports, and slogans about Nazi Crossword Puzzles coming from out of the British Empire.  These plans were discarded upon viewing a highlight reel of Pierre Larouche’s career, and observing that he was a damned great Hockey player.

Meantime, is Hollywood snubbing Larouche at Oscar Time?

“The King’s Speech” – Something tells me that the royal family is secretly funding all of these sympathetic portrayals of the current royal line to cover up their collusion in controlling the world drug trade. Maybe that something is a Lyndon Larouche pamphlet.

And is The Mentalist written by covert Larouchian agents?

STORY NUMBER THREE:  DISSENSION ROCKS ORG

Dissension in the ranks of the Lyndon Larouche Movement, as reported by Harley Schlanger.

LaRouche has insisted, repeatedly, over the objections of many Democrats – and even members of his own organization – that the Hitler mustache on Obama is a truthful representation, and that nothing short of Obama’s removal from office is necessary, if our nation is to survive.

All right, I recognize this as a routine set up — to get the movementarians to doubt their own doubt.  But let’s take it as a straight forward statement anyways.  It’s always good to see the org broadcast the idea that their people are autonomous, and there is an element of “debating society” within the movement where tendencies do acrue but are respected.  But how does this manifest itself?  Are there any examples from the front lines in the Post Office Campaign — can I see a news filler item or blog post with someone behind an Obama Hitler shrugging, “Yeah.  It’s maybe a bit of an exaggeration.  Not literally meant.  He’s more like Calvin Coolidge or Grover Cleveland in terms of policies, but those don’t quite have the explosive power of Hitler.”  (This does smack in line with a comment once seen which did get a donation — to a remark about agreeing with such and such an issue but finding Larouche a despicable character, a Card-table operator responded with “Don’t worry.  He’s going to be dead in a few years anyways.”)  Are there op-ed dissents published anywhere in Larouche publications giving the minority opinion?  Was there an airing of opinion and heated exchange in the corridors of power before the Line was firmly dropped in stone, and if so wouldn’t the trump card go “We’ve called everyone else Hitler!”?

STORY NUMBER FOUR  “ALL YOUR PROTESTS ARE BELONG TO US”

Upon learning that they were in, in effect, fronting for the Larouche organization, the protesters in Libya en masse threw up their hands and went home muttering, “I guess we can live with Qaddafi for a while longer.”

Oh yeah – and the LaRouche shitheads were there too.
The good news is that the Hitler signs this time are yours.  And the “other side” will find every last one of them and publish them on their blogs.  The  Tea Party, which I guess in the Larouche purview of things is a different wing of the domestic slice of the Mass Strike — the one protesting Democratic Adminstrations instead of Republican Administrations — is in a bit of a flutter, charging hypocrisy and this item of familiarity

The same media that went into desk-pounding rage about LaRouche-wacko signs putting a Hitler moustache on Obama calmly refused to discuss signs where Gov. Walker was compared to Mubarak and Adolf Hitler.

Also see.  The Larouchies weren’t able to corner this market — they recognize the new bi-partisan zietgiest and moved in with Rand Paul, but really in terms of executive power we’re in whack-a-mole territory with the governors — it could easily have been Chris Christie as opposed to Walker.
Having the Obama Hitler still around, they are apparently still tracking about the Tea Party contingent of the protests. I guess they can ditch it if they want and flee to the other side, or find the true Leftists of “two party duopoly” belief.   Incidentally:

They know who LaRouche is and believe he is a leftist, and any LaRouchies showing up at Tea Party rallies are just trying to make them look bad. I wish I was kidding about this.
Incorrect.  They’re leading a Mass Strike!

One thing you can give the “Left”, however you wish to define it, is there will be a slice of it giving the protests an international purview.  It’s a bit of chutzpah to claim the Middle East protests as the same, or even part of the same, as the Mid West protests — but Vive La Solidarity.  America’s protesters are more likely to link the two than Egypt’s, though we’ll end up seeing all the signs from the Mid-east by way of commondreams.com or similar website.

So… the Larouche’s “Mass Strike” paradigm.  Let’s see, there’s Iceland.  Egypt.  Wisconsin.  Ohio.  Libya.

They were, of course, sparked by the protests that have been happening in front of various suburban post offices.  See the Mass Strike Vanguard here.
… Rejected here.  (“Paper thin?”)

This sounds appropriate:  Plus of course the oddballs: I saw some benighted soul toting around what appeared to be Larouche propaganda, and another in full Seattle Supersonics basketball regalia, complete with giant flag.

STORY NUMBER FIVE:  ILLUMINATING DISCUSSION ABOUT JEREMIAH DUGGAN BREAKS OUT OF THE MUCK OF FACTNET

I’m pretty laissez faire in my attitude toward factnet postings.  If it veers into an item of easily passed over juvenilia, I’m fine — it’ll right itself in time and some items of interest concerning the cult — frivulous or serious — will exert themselves.  The result is that I’m mostly puzzled by the Charles Schulz Peanuts reference — my questioning veering toward when, say, Dennis Speed joined decades ago, did he think his organization was going to spend time in its published output explaining Peanuts routines?

Somehow, emerging out of rubble of a particular arena of pointless, what might be the most substantial discussion regarding Jeremiah Duggan emerged.  Try entries number, oh 6306 and go on to maybe 6365.  Surely things flinter in and out before those numbers, though.

Also seen on factnet, some new fragmentary pieces on the founding of the LYM — which I can’t easily find, but describe the effects of the separation of the LYM from the Baby Boomers and end up (whether they realize it or not) suggesting the attractions of the heaped praise the LYMers received in Cadre School for a time against manning the Post Office tour.  Also of interest is this — it might be the first Larouchian response I’ve seen to Conyers’s disavowal of his standing in front of a Larouche podium.   Myattempt to put their lobbying where it was in the full context of the 2004 Election protestations is here.

Here’s a quick study of Shakespeare.  Why Star Trek is not a cult.  Also, moderately interesting about some other organization — 75 percent of its resources dedicated to editing wikipedia articles?

Ron Paul wins Straw Poll.
Would plan big fund raising push.
But son is Hitler.

Bad Comparison,
William Jennings Bryan.
Three time NOMINEE.

This begs the question.
Whatever happened to Wertz?
Became poet, right?

“October Surprise?
That’s was us!  Eye on pivot
But Trumpet Reagan.”

We’ve phantom glories
SDI! Downed Ollie North!
Have pictures for Proof.”

“Daily Briefings — Phew.
Everyone reads those — King too!
So ignore and ignore.”

“Never heard of, er…
Operation Mop Up, er…
The Commies Did It!”

Can’t sell special plates.
So corner crackpot market
Before Rain Sets in.

Angels dance on pins.
History’s imprint hinges
On Russian footnotes.

Glass Steagall will win!
Dave Christie’s in IDAHO!!
Local press … silent.

Glowing China Quote!
Should suggest slew of citings
But just not the case.

Shame about Tarpley.
Sought Truther Hegemony.
But they don’t like him.

On Bush book reprint
Would Tarpley have desired
Larouche parts removed?

Big Joe Biden fans!
Because he too likes the trains.
So Impeach for Trains!

On Hitler Mustache
Have defended the Tea Party
But this guy blows it.

Lesson number one
Do Not Confuse Douche Larouche
With Larouchie Douche.

How dare this blogger
Call Post Office Team Fascist!
King must’ve  sent him!

Primitivist Fringe
Shift through Life’s compromises.
Share Facebook worries!

The future belongs
To those who know their Mozart
Unless they’re cultists.

This has to please them.
Larouche compared with Jesus.
It’s to slight Jesus.

A bit less stature.
Compared now with Tom Friedman.
It’s to slight Friedman.

Hm.  The man was visibly angry and said that the Internet is not a good place for people to exchange ideas and conversations.  Maybe?

This comment leads itself to an open-ended discussion and dialouge, no?

Back to the youtube comments in Russia Today:  LaRouche is a living legend. He would make an outstanding leader. He’s the type of guy the world needs.

Therein lies a dilemma in meeting the Thousand Year Challenge.  The Larouche ideology is that HE IS a “Leader”, right there in the fight.  It’s just that nobody knows it because he is the square root of two.   (What?  You want me to find the exact quote from the old Twentieth Century Science and Technology?)  So goes the contradiction.  The only salvo for the members might be the GLORY that comes with being on the ground floor, before the UPSURGE of Mass Genius Adulation — which will come as the British Empire is at last slained, and with it the pesky Second Law of Thermodymics.  The problem, one I am not sure the org has thought through when formulating its Thousand Year Challenge, is that once this happens the Laws of Calculus will be destroyed as well.

Unfortunately they don’t any of them have a campaign website up yet.  Well, it’s early in the process.  Early in the 2012 candidacy, and early in teh 2020 presidential candidacy.

Bottom line:
Just like I have seen the Larouchies here (at the health care public meeting, with a big photo of Hitler!) and in other cities. They are not prohibited, but again, that’s not part of the real political landscape, it’s just background.
Sort of unnoticable unless I make a point to look.  But they sell anytime a Catholic bishop warns about slipping into Eugenics as a sign for themselves.

An Interview with Aljosa Durnik!!!   No, really.  ALJOSA DURNIK!  Who can resist?

Okay.  Wikipedia Update!  I did not get the new HK “experiment” quite right.  Angel’s Flight is flying in to make the references to the various supposed Validators amongst old Soviet functionaries and Italian parlimentarians.  Fun stuff.   Meantime, unidentified commenters are levelling taunts at Will Beback to “ban everyone”.   That’s the experiment.

And meanwhile, at the Administrator’s Board… Everyone knows where this is going… and it’ll repeat itself with .:

FWIW, user:Angel’s flight has also been involved in Lyndon LaRouche-related articles, in a manner consistent with past sock puppets of a banned user. See WP:LTA/HK. So-called “Death panels” and “Obamacare” are key issues for the LaRouche movement, which has become known for its posters of Barack Obama with a Hitler mustache (because they believe the plan is similar to, and inspired by, Hitler’s T4 euthanasia program). I have not gathered specific evidence on Angel’s flight, and am not explicitly accusing that user of being a sock puppet. While we should make a practice of assuming good faith, there are times when it is not warranted.   Will Beback  talk  22:55, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

FWIW, every time an editor on the LaRouche talk page disagrees with Will, Will insinuates that the editor is a sock. It seems to be SOP. Angel’s flight (talk) 16:36, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

If your suspicion is right, it would make sense of my concern, as the POV I see being advocated from Angel’s flight is definitely LaRouchian. Hauskalainen has his own POV pushing problems,[12][13][14] IMO. At worst, he seems to know “the truth” about things and can’t control his urge to opine in article space or remove things he doesn’t like with dubious edit summaries. He also can assume bad faith easily.[15][16] He can be a productive editor at other times. Jesanj (talk) 02:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I’ve also been concerned that Angel’s flight is a sockpuppet of a banned LaRouche editor who edits from the Los Angeles area. Angel’s flight arrived recently at Talk:Lyndon LaRouche to support reverting to parts of an old version favoured by the LaRouche account(s). I don’t know anything about the healthcare edits he has been making, but if they’re consistent with LaRouche’s “Obama is Hitler” position, that would increase the concern. SlimVirgin 16:46, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the funnier laugh-line lies here:
But I also see a long-standing problem of article ownership. I posted a request at the incident noticeboard but it drew little notice. Is there no other avenue to request some intervention from the management of Wikipedia?
I saw the notice it received.  It received the notice due to it.

After their phenomenal electoral landslide mudslide, I kind of resolved not waste my energy on the VT secessionists any more. It’s like sitting around posting about what Lyndon LaRouche is up to lately, in that it matters as much.

Touche.  According to them, Events in Egypt Prove Larouche Right!  Also events everywhere PROVE Larouche Right!  It’s uncanny.  I think it proves Sherman Skolnik right myself.

Given Skolnick’s tendency to define himself as virtually the lone voice of reason in American media, the only one untainted by nefarious connections to the mob or the Bilderbergs or the Rothschilds or the Mossad or the military-industrial complex (what Chomsky calls “the Pentagon system”), his reluctance to engage in public discourse is a little confusing. The dialogues on “Broadsides” are just as one-sided as those on Fox News, the guests every bit as sketchy in terms of reputation and affiliation as those on “Nightline” or “Meet the Press.” Like those he criticizes, Skolnick fancies himself omniscient, so far ahead of the pack that the “proof” of his theories often comes from his own work. Only LaRouche is that openly referential of and reverential to himself; as opposed to Chomsky’s dense, Times-heavy footnotes, their “facts” pass without even the vaguest reinforcement. I’m willing to accept that as necessary to function efficiently, given his utterly unconventional worldview; after all, everyone in the media is corrupt, or corrupted—even me, apparently, according to Skolnick

OR  Another way of putting it is this: you will rarely convince a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong because the conspiracy theorists as a rule are not concerned with facts, events, logic, or any of that. Instead, the conspiracy theory is merely an intellectual device -a sort of rolodex of “villains” who need to be “destroyed” because “THEY” are the reason the conspiracy theorist and their amigos y amigas are so politically impotent and are unable to succeed in society: it is always easier to blame others than take responsibility for oneself after all.

 And meantime:

The two men, who said they did not want to be identified for “security purposes,” (Projection?) irked at least a few passersby who expressed frustration at the altered Obama portrait.  […]
Those LaRouche loonies still around? I thought they went extinct ages ago. There’s nothing I like about Obama’s policies. However, I don’t like any American politician being compared to Hitler. IMHO it undermines the attrocities of the nazis. I do agree that these guys have the right to do what they’re doing.
You’d have to be more than a little nutty to travel from Redford, Michigan to the Saginaw Post Office to protest about the President, especially in this freezing weather. They probably both need a good psychiatric exam!

And meantime:
my prediction?
Sarah Palin is the 21st century’s version of Lyndon LaRouche.
she’s going to be a professional always runnin for president cult leader.
she’s going to become very very very rich selling campaign materials to a small percentage of the public for very large fees.
she’s going to run on outlandish, wacky, retarded, bullshit campaign ideas that annoy the masses but make her small following giddy.
and she’ll lose every time, and make a bunch of noise about sour grapes, and do the same damn thing 4 years later.
just like Lyndon LaRouche

Meantime, reviews are coming in about Michelle Bachman’s Response to the State of the Union Speech.
. I guess he thought it was reminiscent of Ross Perot. Or may Lyndon Larouche’s fireside chats with his socks falling down. It was not the teabaggers greatest moment.
EdwardTeller January 25th, 2011 at 8:11 pm. 147. Just stopped throwing up after Obama’s nuttiness. Is Palin going to deliver a rebuttal rebuttal rebuttal? And Lyndon LaRouche a rebuttal rebuttal rebuttal rebuttal?

I hasten, though — from a deleted link:

Can anyone tell me if the American Tea Party revolves around Lyndon La Rouche and his philosophy? While there is much about La Rouche that I admire and actually promote I am aghast at the most fundamental of his words.
In the late 1980’s I supported a political movement in Queensland called Citizens’ Electoral Council (CEC). It was probably about 1989 that two of the head honchos of the movement went to America with the express purpose of meeting La Rouche. The printed matter they brought back caused me to comment, “This bloke’s still engaged in the Boston Tea Party” because of his unrelenting hatred of all things British. Hence the possible link.

Answer:  Yes I can answer.  The answer is no.

From the front of the Larouche “Internet War Room”.  Something launched with Herschle Kurstofsky at the “Wikipedia Review” announcing plans to attempt “an experiment”.  The experiment appears to be little more than an onslaught of this time unidentified sock puppets making, verbatim, the same edits as all the previous sock puppets and making, verbatim, the same comments in response in acting dumb-founded when called on the redux.  The one interesting wrinkle comes in the form of the sheer inanity of the background non-Larouchian related edits, something moderately clever about Barbados Sheep.    There is a point where the administrator that changed this group of vandalism back related this to Will Beback, which may be a necessary data point if someone is charting this “experiment”.
I gather they believe they have Wikipedia in a conflict with its own rules.  And so goes the conflict: anybody who cares enough about this topic with relation to wikipedia ends up in the two camps — cultists rounding the bend under new assumed identities, and a couple of people concerned with wikipedia’s integricty with an interest in movementarians — their re-corrections get to be called out as “OWNERSHIP”.  I submit that a rule change against re-litigating done issues is in order, or to look over the current set-up for the always contentious cousin of the Larouche Movement — the Scientologists.

As a tangent, looking over the wikipedia edits and comments at Webster Tarpley — who does it profit for him to be referenced as a “prominent Marxist historian” — slightly down-graded to “adher[ing] to the Marxist historiographical method as an historian”?  Are there any actual Marxists who want to claim him?  I suppose Tarpley may have a quid pro quo with anti-communists — he gets to be a historian, they get him to be Marxist.  I have never had any problem categorizing Alex Jones as out of the “Right”, and where in the past he trumpeted the greatness of Ron Paul 4 times to every 1 for Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich, today the latter has been dropped your Kucinich sympathies and he’s referencing the evils of “Socialism” for the One World Conspiracy.  Perhaps, then, Tarpley is to Jones what Larouche was in Liberty Lobby reviews — “the good Communist” who slashes away at the right targets of Rockefellar, etc.  Extra fun note:  my sentiments on the worthiness of the Kennebunkport Warning controversy in explaining Tarpley aligns with the sock-puppet of Herschelkrustofsky.  Krustofsky’s line of reasoning is not extended to the same point in deleting the material about Tea Party Activists protesting the Larouche presence in their gatherings.

In addition to fighting this sentiment, reminscing about Walter Mondale and posting photographs of professional wrestlers, “Ace” at factnet is demanding discussion of Jeremiah Duggan.  Fine.

Jeremiah Duggan is a cautionary tale about not joining strangers at conferences away from civilization.  But most youth don’t need any warning – they’re not all that inviting.  I puzzle over some snide reference to a dummy facebook account with “no friends” (isnt’ facebook supposed to be evil — its place in the Eyptian Protests notwithstanding) — the more useful barometer for interest and concern is the number of people signing this petition.  We see the echoes of what is described as “ego stripping” marked in the spurious insults toward ex-members over innocuous interests.  Professional Wrestling and Dada are out.  So is walking in the woods and Spa Treatments.  We can stick up an impressive list of interests high, low, and middle in its culture scale that someone might have that will be attacked and mocked if someone attends a retreat conference.  It occurs to me that on college campuses, the org compete for space with some groupings of itenerant fundamentalist hellfire campus preachers.  (Moreso than the Objectivists.)  Thee are enough of them to create an industry for these sandwich boards and signs of long lists that include “sports nuts” and “computer nerds”.  I think the Larouche org ought to get in touch with these suppliers and have them custom-make something for them — replace “Damnation” with “Dark Ages”, replace some — but not all — of the afflictions and affiliations, and we get some real synergy going with this one.  (Hey!  There’s some synergy seen here.)

In the old days, revenire chimed in with references about the “Palme Affair”, tying it  into Jeremiah Duggan as a supposed misfire plot against the org.  Surely it is the only moment of relevance for the Swedish “European Workers Party” — as always the more interesting wikipedia read is the Larouchies’s objection to the article’s contents , which tell the story that, yes, the Swedes had good reason to investigate the org over the assassination of Palme.  Looking over this, it hits me that my previous explanation for their current cause with Palin is miguided.  (I will note that someone from the org needs to alert this Larouche-posting blogger — who posts this image  from another partisan photo-shopping source along with a bunch of images more atune to Larouche– that they love Charlie Rangle).   But Palin is a proxy for them, and they’re re-creating the excitement of the “political persecuation” of the Palme Assassination off of their Obama Mustache Hitler campaign. … the campaign upheld by ngonea.

Okay.  This is fun.  About one of the judges who made the decision regarding Rahm Emanuel.
It should note that all three judges on the Appellate Court appear to have connections to the Democratic party, and the justice writing the decision, Justice Hoffman had been chastised in the past by the Chicago Council of Lawyers for letting his political leanings stain his judicial reputation (in campaign material that criticized a LaRouche supporter).  Could it be that the court stepped over its bounds in this case at someone else’s behest?  Who stood to gain from this anyway?

So… In the March 1994 primary, the Council rated Judge Hoffman highly qualified for election to the Appellate Court. After that rating, just before the primary election, Judge Hoffman paid for his name to appear with other candidates on an election flier urging voters to vote for real Democrats and to avoid voting for LaRouche party candidates. The clear implication of this flier was that the opponents of the candidates listed on it were LaRouche party candidates. The flier would be understood by most voters to mean that Judge Hoffman’s opponents were LaRouche party members and would be understood by many voters to impugn those candidates.  Unfortunately, Judge Hoffman and the other judicial candidates listed on this flier had no LaRouche party opponents. The flier was deceptive and likely to mislead voters.

False Implication.  A smear for his opponent on the ballot.  You’re politically dead in the water with this tar.

Actually, strike something from earlier.  I don’t even know if they’re doing the college campus much these days.  The balance really does seem tilted toward the Post Office Circuit.  Or maybe college papers just don’t bother mentioning them much?  They’ve the cadres in six divisions for electoral office — starting on the road to a new Congressional Caucus that will do battle with the Blue Dog Caucus and the Progressive Caucus.  I say it is not too early for Adam Smith to dig up opposition research and go over the public statements made by his primary opponent, Dave Christie.  You don’t want to become the  Ralph Yarborough to a potential Lloyd Bentsen in Dave Christie.  I will sooner or later start on this blog here — but the election is a ways away, so I am in no hurry.  Hell — I didn’t even get the name right originally!
For further implications on that eventual “Dave Christie Blog Project” — see this comment.  They need to mention the name more often, lest they diverge away from it after Larouche passes.

First thing’s first — Is Adam Smith able to double the square?

Christie seemed to have the most fun with Diane Sare, who introduced herself as a Larouche Democrat who is planning a Congressional run in Bergen County. […]
Sare said afterward that she is currently in U.S. Rep. Steve Rothman (D-NJ09)’s district, but hopes that redistricting pits her against far-right U.S. Rep. Scott Garrett (R-NJ05) to the north.
At Thursday’s town hall meeting, Sare quickly listed her major criticisms of President Barack Obama – health care, bank bailouts, and space missions – then turned to Christie and politely said, “I think your policies are identical to his.”
Christie playfully called out for someone to alert the president of this development immediately.
But Sare waited for the laughs to subside, then laid out her plan to take private sector bailout funding and allocate it to state governments to get them out of the fiscal hole they’re in. She asked Christie to work with her to make the plan happen.
“You want to work with me,” he said, “after you called me Obama?”

High on a list of sentences I never thought I would ever see written:  (Alan) Moore’s the comic book version of Lyndon La Rouche.
Huh?