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Arthur Laffer: “Keep the government’s Hands off of Medicare!”

Sunday, August 9th, 2009

The story (stories) of the old befuddled scared men and women crying out their Representatives, Senators, and President to “Keep the Government’s Hands off my Medicare!” is that tad too easy encapsulation for the advocates of Obama’s Health Care Reform, a sledge hammer that works largely to corrall the emotional out of the more legitimate concerns.  I do not know how to rate it in terms of propaganda versus a matter of clarifying a frame.

But it is one thing for your befuddled octagenarian grandpa to worry about a government take-over of Medicare.  The man I don’t understand with this one is Arthur Laffer, that influential economist who, as that Creation Myth holds, doodled this on a napkin, thus heralding in the reign of Supply Side Economics.

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And here is that napkin!

And now he adds these two cents to the current Health Care debate.:  “If you like the post office and the Department of Motor Vehicles and you think they’re run well, just wait till you see Medicare, Medicaid and health care done by the government.”

Huh.  Far be it for me to shake my head in wonderment at a economist, but… Huh.  Can he please scribble a graph of that on a napkin to clarify his position?

The Laffer Curve is, I have to admit, certainly true in extremis.  A zero percent tax rate will bring in no revenue, as would a 100 percent tax rate.  It gotes to figure that various rates of taxation should, therefor, be somewhere in between those two figures.  I suspect that there is no scientific answer to the “law”.

I have always admired Sean Hannity’s extrapulation of the principle.  “Every time you cut taxes, revenue doubles.”  It goes to figure that he should be, therefor, advocating a long series of two cent tax cuts — the $10 Trillion debt would be paid off in no time flat.  Except, I suppose, the “Starve the Beast” theory, which would require the government not to have too much room to grow.

It is worth musing over the (I would say undesirable idea) of a 100 percent top marginal rate.  I know it has been debated and discussed in the halls of various Green Party platform discussions, at least I assume it is as it is the quickest path to a “Maximum Wage” — and I know (from some listening to KBOO) that that socialist idea has been battered around in Green Party politics.  I also remember that the “Maximum Wage” was a great boogey-man for Rush Limbaugh (from my occasional listening back in the 1990s), the end of a slippery slope which would serve as the final sign that the “Great Experiment of America” is “Over”.  There is no real way to know if he believes that, since he never bothered to leave New York City for test case number one in the slippery slope.

But such a thing is a radical enough idea, fundamentally changing our country in ways that I think would justify and explain a chant of “I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK” jumping to starting up a chorus of the “Star Spangled Banner”, and thus the successful shuttering of a Town Hall Meeting.  In the meantime, we’re stuck with too many knots in engaging a plan that would either modestly benefit or modestly hamper the country — I would go with “benefit”.

New Republic versus National Review

Saturday, August 8th, 2009

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Advertisements found in this New Republic issue include:

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Phrma (Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America)

Advertisements in this National Review issue include:

Natural Gas Alliance
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* Not to be confused with each other.  Unless… they are?

Hot or Not?

Friday, August 7th, 2009

Okay.  Let’s play that “Hot or Not” thing with this thing.:

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Hot… Or Not?

Or is Vladmir Putin sending a message to Joseph Biden?  “Russia Weakening?  Oh YEAH?!?!?”
Let’s see Biden shirtless on a horse, huh?

I do know of the group in Russia who would answer “Yes.  Hot” to the question, and go about plastering that photograph as a poster onto their ceiling.  See here.:

Meeting at its annual summer camp in Seliger, the Kremlin-led youth group, Nashi, decided to establish bands of militia consisting of disadvantaged youngsters armed with stun guns. Under the plan, hundreds of thousands of Putin’s young stormtroopers would patrol Russia’s streets and have the right to check people’s IDs.

The initiative to establish the Russian Militia Association (Vserossiiskaya Assotsiatsiya Druzhin, VAD) comes from Vasily Yakemenko, director of the Federal Agency on Youth Affairs (Rosmolodezh) and former leader of the Nashists. The organisation would be financed from the state budget and receive administrative support from Rosmolodezh.

Igor Kon, psychologist and member of the Russian Academy of Education, expresses grave concern about the initiative. Such organisations are usually established specifically to carry out tasks given by those in power and those who are giving the orders, Mr Kon says. Controlling these rowdy youngsters may, however, be difficult, he warns.

Then again

Webster Tarpley and Lyndon Larouche: Barnacles in Search of Hub Ubs.

Friday, August 7th, 2009

Yes, I’m thinking that that image was photo-shopped.  (For it in action, see here.  .  He has found the one bit of illogic his membership doesn’t seem to understand is a bit of illogic — See my comment in the last post.  And as for him, meh — I’ve been swirling around this train for some time.  Wherever a political leader is referred to as Hitler, the Larouchies will come in like barnacles.  The answer to Chuck Beardsley’s question lies round about there and with these things.)

Okay.  Here we have Howie G laying down the Larouche line on the town hall meeting disruptions.:
The Republican Party says it’s not behind the protests, but LaRouche Pac and Lyndon Larouche say that they are. Yes, inside sources say that larouchepac is the catalyst in the resistance to a Nazi dictatorship over health care.  The phrasing is off.  Is Larouche saying that the Republicans are saying the Republicans or the Larouchies are not behind the protests?  (Ah.  “Inside sources”.  I suspect the “inside sources” are random Democratic bloggers and cable news commentators wanting to put the Disruptors in its worst possible light?)  Of course he [Harry Reid] doesn’t have enough cajones to admit that Larouche Pac is in on the action.
Uh huh.  Actually the risk of tarring the whole “movement” with its Larouchite barnacle element is not worth the rewards (nor rewarding Larouche, for that matter).  It’s a careful tactic that would require  not tossing in the more mainstream opposition of mainstream Americans into that pot, and such a thing would buttress against a cry of “Hey!”.  (The Reason Magazine blog numerating the “Birthers” citations.)  Sorry, Howie G.  Enjoy your Fantasy World — you’ll get mentioned in passing by the non-Elite.

For the Larouchies, the “Disruption tactic” is in their tradition, learned from sparodic hits on college campus lecture classes where they … dressed up in gorilla suits? … to “challenge” the Newton Cult and inject the Riemann — Larouche into Econ.  So, this is their element, I suppose.

Fringe movements often follow a sort of pattern, where the initial genuine energy of fringe devotees is exploited for the financial gain of their leaders, who then collapse into infighting over reaping the benefits.
Consider that when considering this.:
 I get the feeling that the loudmouths I’ve encountered the past two days at the town halls were most likely LaRoucheites, birthers or truthers rather than people that attended a tea party because of their concern about the current state of the country.
Can’t get too haughty with that one, throwing a link to an article about the Minute Men.  Sometime around that time Keith Olbermann was entertaining the notion of the 2004 stolen Ohio election, with the opening caveat along the lines of “Somewhere between tin – foil hat and legitimate citizen investigative journalism”, one Bev Harris was traversing about for cash and fame.  Also swarming around that one: the Larouchies.  Here it was because they were injecting themselves into the Fantasy Shadow Government as a “player”, working with Representative Conyers they claimed.

Interesting to note: PUMA activity is still going on in the wikipedia editing section.  There is not a whole lot to say about that brief spurt of disgruntled Hillary Clinton partisans, suffering the affront of personal identification with a losing presidential candidate.  Two figures who hovered around this one: Lyndon Larouche and Webster Tarpley.  In this case, I have to say Larouche’s message made more narrative sense.  Larouche wants to claim to be an “Insider” fighting factions of the Elites, and thus he is with Clinton and against Obama.  Tarpley’s stated hope with Clinton, that she would open up a Democratic Party Realignment, made no sense on his own terms of a nation that blows up the World Trade Center.  But I suspect Tarpley just had a long range in his purview, to act as a number one conspiratorial oppenent in the Obama Administration.  He was more consistent in opposition of Obama from that point to the present, whereas the Larouchies toyed with the always lingering Death Threats problem that plagues Obama for a time after the election — watching and waiting for Hub-Ubs to attach to.

Interesting to note, Webster Tarpley has thrown himself well into the Birthers.  He is, at the very least, wading into it, though it looks as though he’s careful not to cement it part of his conspiratorial storyline — offering his radio show as a platform for the Russian women generally mocked on mainstream media, and from the start during the election campaign thrusting it as “an issue that needs answering”.  Larouche, meanwhile, has opted out of this hub ub.  Probably a good idea: he’s positioned himself for re-entry into Obama support if Obama shaves his mustache and somehow is seen as rejecting his Nazi Advisors.

The thing about these things is that I don’t for a moment think Larouche gave one whiff about the presidential run of Hillary Clinton, nor do I think he cares about Health Care Policy.  I don’t think Webster Tarpley cares at all about Obama’s birth certificate.  You know the Columbia University Student strike of 1968, which served as Larouche’s “coming out”?  (I say that aware that his most loyal associates, still today, were with him back to — I think 1965, actually).  The strike had in it the two great struggles of 1960s politics: the Vietnam War and Civil Rights — eliminating Defense Contracts from the University, and wanting to stop the construction of a gym encroaching into black Harlem.  Larouche didn’t care about those issues.  Even then, 1968, before mop-up, ’twas hub-ub and he was a barnacle.
It may or not be worth looking at the wikipedia edit attempts.

This week’s Willamette Week Cover Bugs the Hell out of Me

Wednesday, August 5th, 2009

That Willamette Week cover story?  “To Catch a Stoner“, on Tigard Police’s highly questionable Prostitution Sting Operation?

That cover that shows an image of three young “Soriority type looking” women “looking slightly buzzed”?  The one that the Tigard Police reportedly snatched from the Internet for use in their sting operations, snatching “Casual Encounter” visitors either engaging in a transaction with marijuana for sex or sharing their marijuana stashes with casual sex, depending on your vantage point?

Okay.  I am really anticipating Willamette Week’s explanation for use of that photograph, because unless I learn that somehow they managed to trace down and contact all three “slightly buzzed sorority sisters” looking women, who then consented to use of this photograph (never mind the goddanged Tigard Police), I feel my respect for that publication suffering a sharply steep drop.

Al Gore wasn’t good enough for Kim Jong Il?

Wednesday, August 5th, 2009

So, we get to the FANTASTIC NEWS coming out of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea!!

 A national exhibition of August 3 consumer goods was opened at the Three-Revolution Exhibition on Monday.

Displayed there are ironware, electric appliances, clothing, grass-work, agricultural products and sundry goods produced by industrial establishments, housewives’ work-teams in ris, townships and districts (dongs), reutilization production work-teams of direct sales shops in cities and counties and home welfare service workers across the country.

The products draw attention of visitors as they have satisfactorily met the Koreans’ taste and their requirements for living.

To put events in the proper perspective, remembrances of Past Glories, and Benevolent Leaders:

On an August day of Juche 40 (1951) President Kim Il Sung examined cotton-padded military winter-shoes.
After watching shoes with care from the height of rubber rim to thickness of shoe-sole, he instructed an official that he should carry a pair of shoes with him when backing.
Next day after he came back to the Supreme Command, he came out, putting on the cotton-padded shoes.
Officials dubiously looked at him wearing the shoes unfit for hot summer.
After having put on the shoes for a week and more, he told officials that, while wearing the shoes for several days, he felt they were good as they were warm and comfortable for feet. What worries myself, he added, is that feet of soldiers might be frozen as the shoes became wet easily.
Pointing to the rubber rim of the shoes he told in an anxious tone that the height of the rim was so low that the shoes got wet like this even in some mud and the wet shoes might make feet of soldiers frozen in winter though cotton was padded.
At last the officials realized why the President wore the shoes in summer.
After an interval, the President earnestly instructed them that the height of rubber should be raised higher.
The officials were deeply moved by him who worried himself so much about the problem of military winter-shoes in the height of the hard-fought war, not a problem of military operation.

Regarding the North Korea Journalists Held ?  North Korean media lead up to it with:

The video of Mr. Clinton’s arrival in Pyongyang was featured in a news bulletin on North Korean state television on Tuesday evening, just after a report on the improving quality of biscuits at a local factory.

The freeing of the Journalists, Euna Lee and Laura Ling, happened about as I thought it would.  It is a predictable game.  The quid pro quo (and here John Bolton can, to use a vulgar common vernacular “Suck on that“) is a photo-op with Distinguished World Figure (apparently Al Gore was rejected.  He’ll have to console himself of this rejection with the fact that more people have actually heard of his television news venture).  And Kim Jong Il wins the chance to claim this:

A little girl presented a bouquet to Bill Clinton.
As well, probably as important for Kim Jong Il’s propaganda purposes than a photograph of a girl handing Bill Clinton flowers:
The measure taken to release the American journalists is a manifestation of the DPRK’s humanitarian and peaceloving policy.

The People’s Democratic Republic of Korea have also thoughtfully stuck this to the forefront of its news page.:

Understand, the Bill Clinton visit makes up the top five headlines at the PDRK state news source.  Impressive!  But what I don’t understand, seeing as “Beer Summits” have become all the rage in the United States, and North Korea is now selling its people beer — well, that was a confluence of events that has been missed.  Then again, it is not worthwhile to get these grim-faced folks in the photo-op tispy.

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[Bloggers’ note: I look for images of Clinton and Kim Jong Il meeting in google images, with those search phrases.  Image #3 is from me.  Image #4 is from me.  Weird.  I’m flattered by somehow ending up there with this blog that’s read by — like 7 people — but it frustrated my attempt to find the now famous summit image.)

Mozart’s Latest

Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

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More than two centuries after his death, two additional works have recently been identified as being composed by the Austrian master. While the pieces might have been played before, Sunday will be the first time they will be performed as compositions of the popular prodigy.

The venue is Salzburg, Amadeus’ birthplace and the city that nurtured his early musical career. The International Mozarteum Foundation will officially present the piano pieces at a hotly awaited event that will feature a live performance by Austrian pianist Florian Birsak.

Officials, protecting the works like state secrets after officially announcing their discovery last week, have said only that they were created by a young Mozart and are contained in a manuscript owned by the Mozarteum for more than 100 years.

“These are two substantial pieces of piano music, composed before Mozart’s 10th birthday,” Ulrich Leisinger, the Mozarteum’s head of research, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.
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Hm. New singles from musical artists after their career tend to be duds. Further, digging into the vaults doesn’t bring out the Greatest.  A new song tracked onto a compilation or anthology – convincing completists to buy it.  Remember the two Beatles songs from the last decade?
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Most likely resembles the latter. One of the two pieces is said to have leaps, crossed hands, speed etc. to mostly show off (written when M. was pretty immature). Something I read includes a remark that probably applies to the piece or at least to the period: The Salzburg court trumpeter and close friend of the Mozart family, Johann Andreas Schachtner, described being shown an inkblot-stained score of a part of concerto written by the young Mozart. Mozart’s father, Leopold, had first dismissed the piece – but then looked at it a little more closely. “Look here Mr Schachtner,” he said. “See how everything is correct and regularly set – it is only useless because it is too difficult for anyone to play.”
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Anyway, when I manage to save up for a European vacation, I’m not going to travel over to the Mozarteum, opting instead to the Bachitorium.

The Birthers march on…

Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

Tumbling over the comments sections of various sites, we come to comments such as:

Are the Humiliating Comment-makers Netizens CHICOM or just ACORN?
Thank God for Attny. Taitz and her actions to save the US Constitution and the US, itself.
Ever notice: On ALL the search engine searches (Read they’ve been suppressing pro-birther results) the criticisms of all us “Birthers” is the same as they do in Red China?
There, the government employs a horde of “Netizens” to go to sites to humiliate & denigrate & suppress anti-government talk. They’re paid about $.25 each, I’ve read.
Just like these apparent ACORN operatives do, they ALWAYS humiliate, denigrate, and use varying terms of “Mental Illness” in volume! Buzzwords like “Wingnut,” “Birther,” “Insane,”Unhinged, “Delusional,”
That’s what happens to the average Chinese when they type out loud, and the Chinese have even more “Mental Health” Prisons as do the Russians.
The apparent wave of the future for us here in Obamaland?
But the CHICOMS have been waging economic and PSYOPS warfare on us a long time. They’ve apparently continued their terroristic use of Biblical prophesies (Remember what they did on 6/6/6?) by creating as part of The Big 0’s Economic Manchurian Candidate grooming and Legend, that he’s actually the Anti-Christ (Imagine the desired reactions.) That his name, “Barrack Obama,” means “Antichrist,” in ancient Hebrew in the Book of Luke, according to a religious researcher can be seen at this YouTube video on World Net News.
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This creation of a well-groomed “Legend,” part of an overall economic warfare agenda, taking over at the top, is as old espionage craft as is planting ads in prominent Hawaii newspapers, making myth become “The Truth.”r

There is no argument against those points or order.

The constitutional crisis that might erupt if this thing is not resolved:

QUESTION:
What happens to Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation as Supreme Court Justice if the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” Presidential eligibility requirement is subsequently determined applicable to Barack Obama on the basis of Article 2’s exclusion of dual citizenship birth (doesn’t matter whether Obama born in Hawaii since his dad was Kenyan/British citizen at the time)? It would seem prudent, if not dereliction of Constitutional duty in not so doing, for the United States Senate to defer voting on Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation at the very least until there is determination, now imminent, on standing in Kerchner v. Congress (USDC NJ) on that precise issue (Congressional failure to take up the raised and known constitutional ineligibility question prior to declaring a Presidential winner in the vote of the electoral college). For the full Senate now to proceed to vote to confirm Judge Sotomayor (an otherwise lifetime appointment) before then, would be a knowing and very substantial exacerbation of any inherent Constitutional crisis — compounding the previous Congressional dereliction. That is, the Executive Branch, as well as conceivably all actions of a Congress under a President determined ineligible, would leave the Supreme Court as an essential unfettered remaining Branch of the Federal Government, that is unfettered so long as Mr. Obama’s nominee to the Court is not yet confirmed by the Senate.

Will not one Senator, let alone Republican Senator, raise this issue on the Senate floor? The nation is watching.

THAT must be why so many Republican Senators are harking away from their previous voting records of voting in Supreme Court Justices and not voting for the confirmation of Sotomayor.  Perhaps they just can’t say it, for fear of the Red Chinese techniques of the ACORN thugs!!

As for A Sewer’s comment here:
Fringe movements often follow a sort of pattern, where the initial genuine energy of fringe devotees is exploited for the financial gain of their leaders, who then collapse into infighting over reaping the benefits.
Can’t get too haughty with that one, throwing a link to an article about the Minute Men.  Sometime around that time Keith Olbermann was entertaining the notion of the 2004 stolen Ohio election, with the opening caveat along the lines of “Somewhere between tin – foil hat and legitimate citizen investigative journalism”, one Bev Harris was traversing about for cash and fame.  (I say that because that was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read that sentence.)

But this arena of partisan conspiratorializing depresses me so.  (With spokespeople like this, who needs enemies?… Actually, strike that.  I have to admire her sheer termerity!) But we continue, with a frequent commenter to various blogs — who likes to use these platforms to advertise his blog of “insightful” partisan tactics:.

What’s “lunacy” is that people like Larison don’t really understand this matter before speaking out about it. And, it’s also “lunacy” that the leaders of the supposed opposition to BHO are actually helping him with this issue rather than being able to figure out how to turn this issue to their advantage.

The leaders of the supposed opposition to BHO (very broadly defined to include those like Larison) could have used this issue to discredit the MSM, and instead they’re helping the Dems smear the GOP.

AND

What Ambinder is confused about is the difference between faith and fact. He believes BHO was born there; I think it’s a very strong possibility but, unlike Ambinder, I’m smart and open-minded enough to realize that there’s the possibility that he was not born there. Ambinder is an honorary member of the BHO cult; I’m too much of a free thinker to believe in Xenu. For instance, HI’s DOH Director might be lying or mistaken. We won’t know until we’ve seen the full file complete with a history of the file and all of that has been verified.

For the actual facts of this matter, see my extensive coverage. No one has so far been able to provide a valid counter-argument to anything at that or the linked pages. Let’s see if Ambinder is smart and open-minded enough to give it a go.

There is some muttering about how to handle the bussed in shouters at the Town Halls.  The answer is that politicians need to read up on their Richard Nixon, and the art of pulling a crowd against the protestor (invited and bussed in by Nixon, as it was) — using them to set up applause lines.  But we are stuck with the political fungibility where the policy concerns, both legitimate and illegitimate, of Health Care clash with this subterranean land of “Birther”ism. 

What is your response to the FACT that Obama’s parents placed an ad announcing their sons birth in Hawaiin newspapers shortly after the date of his birth?  AND
Jeff, you’re breaking some news! Because, no one has yet shown exactly who placed those announcements. No one has provided proof – such as contemporaneous memos and the like – showing that they could have only come from a birth hospital and would only indicate a birth in HI. In fact, some people – you know, those with open minds – admit the possibility that they might have been planted by the grandparents in an attempt to confer citizenship and in case of a custody battle.

Wait!  Wait!  Maybe the man wasn’t born at all!  Is it possible he was brought in by a stork, like all those illustrations and images for children have it?

the strangest act of (possible) political terrorism

Sunday, August 2nd, 2009

The background here:  David Vitter is the Louisiana Senator who got in trouble due to purchasing the services of a prostitute.  He has received a primary opponent in the name of “Stormy Daniels”, a Porn star, who is not going to win, but whose run serves as a reminder of the the prostitute scandal through the minds of the voters for the next year. AND SO

An advisor to Stormy Daniels’ potential senatorial campaign had his car blown up yesterday on a street in New Orleans. Political advisor Brian Welch was unharmed.

Surveillance footage broadcast on local news affiliate ABC-26 shows what appears to be a man opening the driver’s-side door, throwing an object in the vehicle and then the car exploding.

“It looks like the pictures you would see in Iraq following a roadside car bombing,” reporter Glynn Boyd said of the damage to Welch’s car.

Having a porn star consider a run for senate certainly is a controversial campaign to be involved in, especially in the Deep South, so Welsh questioned if someone is trying to send him a message, but wouldn’t point fingers so early on.

He’s waiting for more forensic information and hopes witnesses would come forward with more details, but swears this incident will not deter him from continuing to work with Daniels.

“No one has seen anything like this before…not in such a dramatic fashion,” Welsh told ABC-26. “It’s too early for me to go pointing fingers. I’d like to hear officially what happened and then we can take it from there. .”

Famous last words: “If someone’s trying to send me a message like this, it’s not going to work.”   And for the conspiratorial-minded out there, she has now been charged with domestic violence (news mixed in with footage of the car-bombing here).  Is David Vitter running in the same Louisiana political tradition as Huey Long with regards to his political enemies?  Actually, who’d want to destroy the career of a fringe novelty political act — almost but not quite the equivalent of destroying the candidacy of, say, Bob Kelleher … or Gordon Allen Pross.

Q: Is Representative Virginia Foxx aping Larouche? A: Not really.

Sunday, August 2nd, 2009

I’m reading a Birchite written biography of Robert Welch.  One thing it has done is cement for me the answer to the question “which side of an ideological divide do you slot Lyndon Larouche?”.  Yes, with all due respect to various Marxist memoirs and historical left-wing sect pamphlet propaganda I’ve looked at, it is “right”, qualified as it is with idiosyncracies aplenty and from out a Trotskyite core (enough to lead him to a pause).  But perhaps this question entangles itself with what you want to focus on: the policy apparatus behind those large public works projects aren’t getting us anywhere, the conspiratorial worldview has gotten them places.

I have long noticed the Larouchite love affair with the “they call him Marxist, Fascist, Left, Right” argument.  I’ve never been sure where this is supposed to get them anywhere, but I guess the love affair with this is as good a reason as any to bounce about the political landscape as they “flank” various issues and movements (hm).  It is a fallacious argument, made by plenty of more mainstream pols.  Bill O’Reilly uses it with regularity.  He reads a letter calling him a Right-wing fanatic.  He then reads a letter calling a Left-wing fanatic.  And he finishes with a letter affirming his “if you’re getting it from both sides, you must be doing something right”.  The lesson, of course, is that you have a good chance of getting a letter read on the air if you write calling him a left-wing fanatic.  (A few years’ ago a liberal blogger tested that thesis and hit pay-dirt.)  The generic retort to Larouche is, of course, to be content to push all that aside and settle on “Fruitcake.”  (Or, Mark Levin’s “Looney Tunes“.  Another neat bit of invective: Ladouche.)

But this “slot ideological placement” is only intermittently an interesting question — the cult mostly just slides everything into a projection of itself — ’tis what a cult does.  A different question, far more pertinent, occupies my thoughts when I consider the Larouchites (dissecting an rare species of exotic floral.)  Slowly and surely, a few comments and questions have emitted over the Internet which slot recent Republican commentary on Obama Administration health care policy with Lyndon Larouche’s months long campaign — best illustrated by sticking a mustache on Obama’s face.  Representative Virginia Foxx threw out the Eugenics equation!!  And also, did you see that elderly woman at a Townhall meeting?  Notable, though, is that even Representative Foxx isn’t saying Obama is physically/literally cribbing from Hitler’s policies.  Which is to suggest, we can go ahead and cite this is as a perversion of a criticism from Betsy McCaughey, thank you very much — with some broad “eugencs” blouters from various sources, that include the deluge of Larouche.

But the boiler room over in Leesburg may as well consider this a “hit” regardless.  An observation from the Bircher book — the Birchers took credit for more than they were due in their battles against the Illuminati and Communist infested world.  (Also Welch spoke out against the encroaching Dark Ages, a Spenglerite notion I suppose but one that naturally allows for a “design to fail” as well a version of…

“It’s either LaRouche’s solution or a Dark Age. You decide.”

An interesting thing… even bonker quasi-supporters seem able to grasp this “design to fail”.  See, from Transition #743, 1997 — an interview with Kelefa Sanneh and Killah Priest:

KS:  What about someone like Lydon Larouche?  He’s another person who claims to be exposing truths that the government is trying to hide.  Larouche has had a high profile in the African American community ever since his 1992 presidential bid, when he chose the black activist Reverend James Bevel to be his running mate.  What do you think of Larouche?

KP:  Most people like Larouche are trying to save thsmelves from the future.  I mean, the information is deep, but people like Larouche are patriots.  They’re just trying to stave off what’s destined to happen.

KS:  What about William Cooper, whose conspiracy classic, Behold a Pale Horse, has become so influential in the hip-hop community?

KP:  Yeah, the book is deep.  He was part of the plan and they gypped him.  I don’t know what they did.  But Cooper is like Larouche: the Armegeddan that he wants to prevent is destined to happen.  [followed by some more bonkers commentary that’d make you cringe.]

The database I plucked that out is likely available to you too.  But if pressed, I’ll finish that “Killah Priest” quote, as well go back and drdge up the question I am sure is on your mind:  What has Ward Churchill said about Lyndon Larouche?

The question with the Larouche cult’s particular brand of demougery: what measurement can we use to suggest they’ve injected something into our discourse, and to what degree have they simply reflected some bad impulses?  It is, I think, mostly the latter but there are times when the former does impugn on us, and there are a few small times when there are not clear – cut answers.  I guess I’m willing to give them all credit for “Prescott Bush financed the Nazis”, only faintly the great Leo Strauss game.

When I referenced Spengler, on the tip of my mind only due to a random comment seen somewhere, I am of course refering to Oswald Spengler, and not Goldman (wikipedia page in error, incidentally) — though I guess I may as well be referencing both.  But to go on with that element.:

The prospects for all of Eurasia now hang on the probable impact of two reactions of Europe to the present, terminal financial crisis of the virtually doomed U.S. Obama administration: the September 27 general election in Germany and the presently inevitable breakdown-crisis of the U.S.A.’s system during the interval of approximately Oct. 2-12, 2009.

Unless the present U.S. Obama administration is taken over by sane forces within the Administration and Congress prior to September, the oncoming U.S. crisis now scheduled for early October 2009 will actually explode, like a bomb set off by a proximity fuse during the period of the run-up to the Sept. 27 general election—or, in the alternative, even earlier.

By sometime no later than early through middle September, all present operating delusions about their own prospects, among leading Eurasian nations will have been exploded: if the U.S. goes down, the entire world goes down, and the debris of the explosion will be a planet-wide new dark age which no presently existing nation of the world would survive in a recognizable form.

Well, that keeps this question in the minds of the faithful, I suppose.  The faithless will move on.:

But what I did not agree with-was trying to link Obama to Hitler!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE??
I have a copy of a booklet that the LaRouche supporters were giving out entitled: “ACT NOW TO STOP OBAMA’S NAZI HEALTH PLAN!!!
The front cover of the booklet shows Obama photoshopped in with Hitler and some of his Nazi supporters.
This to me, is TOO STRONG OF A STATEMENT-ONE CAN MAKE THE POINT THAT THEY BELIEVE OBAMA MAY BE SACRIFICING THE HEALTH OF THE MENTALLY ILL AND POOR BUT LINKING HIM WITH HITLER DOESN’T FLY WITH ME!!!

And the explanation for the current questioning from these guys:

That was annoying enough on its own, but one of the guys blocked my path. “Would you like to give our President a shave?” he asked.

I really didn’t like being impeded in my quest for a sandwich. “Crazy losers” I muttered, and steered around him. His associate called after me in a jeering tone, “see you next fiscal year!”

Next fiscal year? Was he saying that when I saw next year’s deficit I’d come around to their side? I highly doubted it. But that kind of false confidence is what keeps people like that out on the streets with their placards, year after year. Anyway, thankfully I was back on path to the Brown Bag, and my quest for the almost-perfect sandwich was soon fulfilled.

While I recognize nobody reads this stuff except the terminally curious (because we can’t quite tell the difference between the sort of thing just (oh for the love of god, I had the perfect auto-generated word salad link) and this sort of thing — skip to italics), it is pretty evident that the Org has positioned itself to wander back to support of Obama.  It is in the “Unless the present U.S. Obama administration is taken over by sane forces within the Administration and Congress prior to September” equation, and the equation within:   On the basis of that defeat, a new team of economists, grounded in the reality of this existential crisis, can be brought in.

Such is the meaning of “Would you like to give our President a shave?” — only you, through the agias of supporting these supporters of a negligible fringe cult leader — can free Obama of his Hitlerian mustache!  Does that mean anything?  Not really.