STORY NUMBER ONE:  MOPPING UP GLEN ISHERWOOD’S NOOSE WAVING INCIDENT
The Larouchies have a pretty good tactical advantage in their status as universally mocked, unpopular, and loathed.  It is such that when a Larouchie acts disreputably, on behalf of a larger cause, the response is a “They’re goddamned Larouchies!”

It is a reason that Glen Isherwood waving a noose at a man is not a threat.  There is a back-flip effect here.  While this symbolism is usually communicated as “We want you dead”, Glen Isherwood’s message is “You want us dead.”  Since any inspection of the incident shows this meaning to be the case, it can be brushed aside and best left dropped.  The magic happens that when catalouged into a litany of items, the “They’re goddamned Larouchies!” effect kicks into effect, and what we have is a charge of an inflated matyr complex.

Punt. goes the American Spectator.

And more CEC Larouchie Noose discussion — this one raises some questions.  Mainly: Why responding?. But, no matter — here are the comments I’m at this post to gather about.:

And as a final note, one issue that Appell got upset about (that he tried to post on WUWT) got snipped because it was from a LaRouche Youth Movement supporter who held up a rope noose saying “Welcome to Australia” during  a speech by Hans Schellnhuber. It was ugly, tasteless, stupid, and full of bad imagery, but again missing the key words that define a death threat. Even so, some in the media (and many in the alarmosphere) are calling it a “death threat” and trying to paint it as being launched by skeptics. For the record, neither I nor anyone who publishes here associate themselves with the Larouche people, and I denounce their actions. I don’t think you’ll find a single mainstream climate skeptic who would say any different.

I think holding up a noose is clearly a death threat. Maybe not quite enough to get a conviction, but it is fair to call it a death threat.

While many of those examples provided are certainly disturbing, ( and contains language I’ve not seen one WUWT poster ever utter, I might add,) to call those ” credible death threats” is stretching the truth.
Some of them did come close, and possibly even cross the line, ( IMO, the noose display should have been investigated, but thats just my thought) the silver bullet is that these WEREN’T investigated.

As for death threats, what was that kid-exploiting shock film that was used as the intro to Copenhagen? Give us money or your children will die!!! Seems almost everything coming from the AGW side has some implied or expressed future death threat… but since it is directed at no one in particular I guess that makes it different.

In other news from Australia on Global Warming and Climate Change, we have a politician bringing up the name “Margaret Thatcher” in that “Even Margaret Thatcher” manner of things.  And into this abyss — Malcolm Turnball in Sydney July 21:

In an age where the Internet gives everyone the opportunity to be a broadcaster, you can find an opinion to support any proposition. If it doesn’t suit your interests to reduce the use of fossil fuels, there are plenty of blogs and articles online to support your self interest.
Some of this material online can be very embarrassing to rely on. A good friend of mine recently contended that the CSIRO were utterly wrong on climate change and he sent me a paper from what he understood was “a leading scientist in a leading journal”. As it turned out the paper was in journal published by the Lyndon LaRouche Movement and was written by a man who had recently served time in gaol for securities fraud. The only peer review to which his work had been subjected was, in fact, a criminal jury.
I might note for those unfamiliar with it, that the local wing of the LaRouche movement is the Citizens’ Electoral Council (CEC) an extreme, rightwing, racist organisation…

Further passages from the full speech found here:

I might note for those unfamiliar with it, that the local wing of the LaRouche movement is the Citizens’ Electoral Council (CEC) an extreme, rightwing, racist organisation that I’m proud to say that the Liberal Party emphatically and invariably puts absolutely last in any how-to-vote form that we distribute.
These are the charming people who recently disrupted a scientific conference in Melbourne by threatening Professor Hans Schellnhuber, a leading European climate scientist in the midst of his lecture by waving a noose in front of his face and saying “Welcome to Australia”. Just think about that. What a wonderful welcome to Australia from these people.

Twitter… and then A response?
Australia has a tea party, and here I Must note for partisan knocking purposes a curious claim for national pride — for something that appropriated an American political item:

Americans are now awake to the falsity of Al Gore, and Republicans are taking notice. The Australian people are often more astute than Americans. Surely Australians deserve an astute political party to represent their interests against the wreckers and saboteurs?

Here’s an item of incoherence, showing the Australian Tea Party blog thing hasn’t much use for dissecting ideologies, or taking the CEC as anything other than a stink bomb grenade.:

Incidentally, Professor Hans Joachim Schellnhuber is a surprising target of abuse from the authoritarian CEC, because he is just as authoritarian as they are.

Note: the CEC would really like your anti-global warming lists to start badgering.

Hm.  Point / Counterpoint time.  Point:  .If you read the mad rantings of conspiracy theorist, Lyndon LaRouche, or the frothing pamphlets of many in the Wise Use movement or the twisted logic of the armed militia – it was all the same:  That environmentalists were communists who had somehow concocted the threat of climate change to impose an authoritarian world government.

AND… Counterpoint:  Nothing to wonder about where Wayne Madsen is concerned, or for that matter where Lyndon LaRouche is concerned. In particular Lyndon LaRouche is far left, and yes he really does espouse Marxist ideology.

I note after that that the most entertaining remark in the flutter of items about Isherwood waving the noose at that man was, after looking at their history, “Watermelon”.  Hm…
The Executive Intelligence Review (EIR) Magazine, reports in its April 8, 2005 issue, that the mix of Global Warming-related policies was inspired by elite … One representative of this elite group who presides over Global Warming, gleefully remarked that “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels” as quoted in “Are You Ready for Our New Age Future?”
Dark Age, Dark Age, Dark Age… Keep that title in mind… redux, rinse, repeat… it’s going to be familiar in “Story Number Two”… Or to random comments fluttering about – LYNDON LAROUCHE HAS GIVEN US THE PATH TOO TAKE.,NOW ITS UP TO US WALK ON IT…OR STAY HOPELESSLY LOST IN THIS BLACK FORREST OF FIAT CURRENCY UNTIL MANKIND FALLS INTO THE GREATEST DARKAGE IN HUMAN HISTORY

STORY NUMBER TWO:  CHIP BERLET AND LYNDON LAROUCHE OFFER DIFFERING EXPLANATIONS ON OSLO BOMBING CAUSE

I have read and heard Chip Berlet a handful of times in the media over the past few years, in those handful of appearances the number of references I have seen and heard to Larouche stands at one, and that reference was a rather quick aside.  I remember hearing him interviewed about the ramblings of the mentally ill man who shot Gabrielle Giffords — he referenced a few streams that wandered through his psychosis.  I suppose if he really wanted to tag Larouche, he could have done so then and it’d be difficult to call the bluff.

The Oslo killer presents a more straight-forward case in terms of political beliefs.  The killer identified the his beliefs and his political goals.  It is in that analytical framework that Chip Berlet identified, I believe before his manifesto was uncovered to broad study, the killer’s opposition to “cultural marxism” as a driving force — and there we get this as:
a right-wing antisemitic concept developed primarily by William Lind of the US-based Free Congress Foundation, but also the Lyndon LaRouche network.

I tend to want to keep Chip Berlet at just short of arm’s length — but if the Larouchies want to make this a binary choice for me with a comment along the lines of:

Chip Berlet is a charlatan and indefatigable self-promoter. He will always attempt to elbow his way to the front of the line to comment on the latest atrocity, and try to somehow link it to his old hobby-horse, Lyndon LaRouche, who has never mentioned “cultural Marxism.”

Berlet posted the 1992 Schiller Institute piece entitled “The New Dark Ages”, which I suppose luckily for the Larouchites — as they commented at Berlet’s page — fails to mention “Cultural Marxism”.  But it does the trick of dragging in the “Frankfurt School”, and some excerpts from people online who have made use of the Schiller Institute piece reveals the broader story here:

It certainly is no accident that the greatness of the US and of the West is in rapid decline. The more laws are created to remove God from our lives, the faster the decline. […]
So, how does it come about that Atheism (a religion) and Homosexualism (an ideology) play such prominent and controlling roles in our lives?

II. What is Political Correctness, From Where Did It Arise?  A.Cultural Marxism  The idea behind Political Correctness was hatched by a group of progressive
German academics, the Frankfurt School  <http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html> , before WWII  when they relocated to America to escape Hitler’s wrath.

… Obama and the Human Stain:  How Political Correctness Gave America a Con-Man President:
The idea behind Political Correctness was hatched by a group of progressive German academics, the Frankfurt School <http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html> , before WWII  when they relocated to America to escape Hitler’s wrath. They realized Marx was  wrong—the poor were not ready to revolt and throw off Capitalism for a  property-less society. These Marxists decided the only way to create the  society Marx envisioned was by subverting its institutions by misinformation, propaganda and seduction of the mentally unformed. Writes one expert  <http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/> ,

That second article was written by… Bill Lind.

The Jewish Origin of “Political Correctness” — more of the same.

And finally, 2083: A European Declaraction of Independence written by the terrorist in Oslo has this to say:

“The New Dark Age: The Frankfurt School and ‘Political Correctness’” by Michael Minnicino, in Fidelio, Vol. 1, No. 1, Winter 1992 (KMW Publishing, Washington, DC) One of the few looks at the Frankfurt School by someone not a sympathiser, this long journal article explains the role of the Institute for Social Research in creating the ideology we now know as “Political Correctness.” Unfortunately, its value is reduced by some digressions that lack credibility.

Except there is a wrinkle in that.  The Oslo killer didn’t write it.  He lifted it whole cloth from this piece — see here — by William Lind — and put it in his manifesto.
(The “Renew America” site — I will note — showed up in my searches for a quick reference to Jonathan Tenenbaum as citation.)
This is sort of the typical nature of the beast.

In the course of things, the Larouche angle on the Frankfurt School– discussed a bit more here — falls into a kind of standard droning list compiling a batch of different groups and stringing them together with a bunch of prepositional phrases.  The Royal Dutch Army in support of the Malta Order of Candle Makers under the Frankfurt School with the Round Tables sponsored Fabian Socialism in England … the historical perpetrators of Dark Ages.  I was thinking that Time Magazine had Herbet Marcuse on its cover, with a blurb along the lines of “Is He To Blame?”, but unable to find anything quickly I just threw up that book cover portrait.  A thought occurs to me, though… the account “Ace” at factnet once threw at the users at that board looking at various genealogies of Radical movements “Weren’t those never taken seriously by anyone?” by way of dismissal.  Viewing Lyn Marcus as setting up shop and placing himself in opposition to all comers, the New Left and the man the mainstream media called the “Guru of the New Left” — the question, for the first time, becomes interesting.

It is interesting to see the new relationship with Alex Jones blossoming — and here we see Larouche Shit now found on Prison Planet.  That article is looked at in more depth at the blog “Alex Jones Sucks” — the “Obama Preparing new Reichstag Fire” bit falls into a long line of conspiranoid chatter that denies culpability for the attack to anything but a “THEM”.  The thing about Larouche’s place on the Alex Jones network … he’s just one of an assortment… somewhere, frankly, underneath Webster Tarpley in a rough hierarchy — and we see Tarpley at the site also expounding on how the attacks in Oslo were, just another False False Operation.

The blog “Satan’s Fake Apocalypse” may be the place to go to see how Larouchies are digesting the latest.
Satan;s Fake Apocalypse.  Here we see the equation,  Breivik = Tea Party = British Empire.
LaRouche long ago identified the Tea Party as a front-group for the British empire, with the purpose of ramming austerity down our throats, and that’s exactly what they’re doing.

See too: In his characterization of the Beast-man, LaRouche neglected to mention the Beast-man’s pride in his ability to tell monstrous lies (although I suppose that lying can be categorized as a type of deed), to induce us to behave as if their lies are true, and to “live the lie” by pretending to be human in public. (Some of the same Norwegian government officials expressing shock and grief over this tragedy were possibly involved in it.) According to Rudolf Steiner, “selling” big lies is a major aspect of actual black magic.
The claim that Breivik was trying to start a war between Christianity and Islam is clearly a big lie which clearly has nothing to do with reality. In case you’ve forgotten, there’s this little affair known as the War on Terror which is much more suitable for this purpose. But the sheer gulf between the lie and reality tends to confuse people, and to force them to become preoccupied with making sense of it, to become distracted from what’s important, which is implementing Glass-Steagall and putting Obama on a one-way flight to London where he can attend tea parties and plot against the US without having to pretend to be an American.
Behind all of the culprits in this particular instance looms the old Nazi Beast-man, His Royal Virus Prince Philip, the prime suspect in the murder of Princess Diana, which also shocked the world. I suspect that it was intended to demonstrate the oligarchy’s willingness to perform humanly unimaginable deeds to prevent anyone from interfering with their agenda, such as the recent terrorism in Norway.

And how about some literary analysis?

STORY NUMBER THREE:  SKY SHIELDS PROMOTED AMID FLURRY OF GRATUITOUS MONKEY REFERENCES

As reported last week, I didn’t watch but do have the key time moments such that I could watch without suffering through the whole boring ordeal — there was a mighty shake up that occured in house where some old time boomers were knocked down and, in particular, Sky Shields moved up the ladder.  It’s easily speculatable that he passed the loyalty test by chuckling at a racist joke told by Larouche — seen here.  Things get more interesting as reported by the latest incarnation of revenires and aces at factnet, that the latest video release apparently features gratuitous monkey references.  It will be interesting viewing, if I ever get time references.  It reminds me of a recent moment in last season’s nfl playoffs involving the Jets and Patriots– press conference with gratuitous references as a joke relaying recent controversy — which you can read about and see here.
Anyway, I don’t know what Sky Shields’s promotion means — in public view the only way I’d know anything is up is if we see him on Iranian Press TV or Alex Jones — but I guess one can study his place by amount of time he appears somewhere or other.

STORY NUMBER FOUR:  PO TOUR MAKES THE ROUNDS

Dateline Bill Brown Post Office The group’s members say they have stationed tables all around the city today, each trying to raise at least $1,000 for LaRouche. […]
Now the LaRouche followers are asking for financial support and mailing list sign-ups to help. They say they’re attempting to get Obama impeached by the end of the summer, reinstate the Depression-era banking regulations of Glass-Steagall and, well, that’s all they say. When asked where the money goes, they said it was to the publications – which depict Obama embracing Hitler, among other images – and to fund the Worldwide LaRouche Youth Movement.

[…]

I remember people from the LaRouche movement disrupting a meeting at my Democratic Club in Washington Heights-Inwood in 1980. I didn’t think they were still around!
You want Obama out? I’ve got no problem with that. But if you tell me you need $5 to get Obama out and then go spend it on something else, I’d be pretty pissed.

Isn’t LaRouche the dude who once got into a scuffle with Phil Donahue, at some airport or something?
it was a la douche supporter.
Same thing!
(Yeah.  We see Rachel Larouche Brown named here.)

Dateline Longmont: Craig, an organizer from Houston, said he does not use his last name with the media because his house has been vandalized when he has. He said he pushed Coblentz away from his table to protect his property. He said some people try to provoke fights with those in his organization to try to get them arrested.

Dateline Los Altos:
The pair, who identified themselves only as John and Linda, declined to be interviewed.

Note that the “Samuel” commenter taps at “9/11 Truth” as Obama’s crime.  Is this game being pulled in, with some look over toward Alex Jones?

STORY NUMBER FIVE: THE WEB INFILTRATION GAME

I always found the conclusion of the Avi Klein piece somewhat suspect.  Even if true (and during a patch of time through the Spring of 2008 things were getting awfully dray with this organization), it’s reasonably easily remedied.  Observe: the org has mastered the art of carrot-encrusted chain email!

Thank you, Sam Vaknin for launching the thing.
Okay, maybe Lyndon LaRouche isn’t the most reliable source of facts.  But our email author says that Sam Vaknin is a world-respected psychologist and expert on narcissism.

The Berlet website has commenters responding that there seems to have been an upsurge in spam on the Mother Jones website.  This figures, as observe — though firedoglake, having established itself as a website opposed to the Obama Health Care policy from the left, was a target (and sometimes picked up without permission.)

Firedoglake response: Interesting   so a Lyndon LaRouche supporter is now breaking through the site to post adds and comments without a registered name, copying the technique of the far east ad persons.  And London bankers control us rather than Wall Street Bankers.   I have not seen Lyndon since early 80′s in New Hampshire – tell him he ran a quick learner in the Democratic primary against Barney Franks – in 6 months she became much more viable – wrong on history and issues but she could articulate her position.

Though the most interesting place, over to the right, I see a mass influx of Larouchie spammers —

why is it so hard for people ot accept F.D.R.’S &J.F.KENNEDY’S STAND FOR THE –GLASS-STEAGALL ACT that Lyndon Larouche advocates so our country can have jobs and projects started.Is CONGRESS BLIND or has Obama got them hypnotized.[we have a choice to be or not to be—hypnotized—……..

This commenter sits alongside comments such as:

I HOPE PERRY RUNS.
AND, I HOPE BARRY RUNS TOO, BACK TO AFRICA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am right of Atilla the Hun, but I once in ignorance voted for a Democrat I hate to say. Perry has executed a lot of illegals. That does not sound like a RINO.

Wouldn’t it be Great, If, Obama lost the election and then finding out his birthcertifict and SS# was fake and He was Deported? He could join the rest of the illegals in the Old Mexico Jails!

See too here.

Then, we have this type of thing that surfaces.
Linden LaRouche speaks about the possibility of QE3, the Constitution, and the fate of the Nation. Mind you, Linden is an old school Democrat. At the turn of the 20th century, there weren’t many differences in the parties when it came to SPENDING and DEBT. I read a bunch of  LaRouche PAC literature. They’re a little nutty, but I agree with most of what they publish fundamentally.
I suspect the mis-spelling of Linden is some sort of code to alert everyone of “plant-hood”.  No word on the “We Stand With Israel” banner on the sidebar…

To back-track to the Klein article — I must stipulate my point is that… to a degree.  There was a recent very minor editing at wikipedia which seems to have done just to rub in a snipe that remains at the page at Larouche critics and ex members.  What was fascinating about it, though, was the basic problem remains — Yes, The Sexual Impotence of the Puerto Rican Socialist Party is a doozy and a half!

See too:

Webster Tarpley has been mentioned a few times on the thread. It might be useful to put a little context into this.
A few weeks ago I was handed a publication (from about 1985). It came to me through a physician I know, and who I was giving a lift to, as she was temporarily without a car. She had been handed the book by a patient, who thought it was interesting, providing an analysis of the war strategy of the USSR in the mid-eighties. ( I was waiting for her to finish her work so she gave me the document for ‘entertainment’.
The book looked extremely ‘serious’- it was designed to look like an official intelligence analysis, and my first impression was that it was a government publication.
I started reading it and quickly developed the impression , admittedly with the advantage of hindsight, that it was written by some very odd people, who were offering the thesis that The USSR was on the point of launching a pre-emptive nuclear strike.
Their analysis could not have been more wrong. I was rather confused by trying to make sense of something that looked as if it should make sense, but clearly didn’t.
At one point it launched into a tirade against Henry Kissinger who, at the time, had been suggesting that the USSR was on the point of collapse. the thesis of the book was that the USSR were far ahead of the west in technology and economic power.
It was, not put too fine a point on it, paranoid nonsense. The language was also actually rather amateurish and on a more critical reading not really like the kind of semi-academic language likely in a publication of any credibility or substance, although at casual glance it may have seemed rather weighty. I became incredulous that such a thing could be the product of sane people but it had all the appearance of a very ‘serious’ report.
I then got on to Google and did some basic enquiries and discovered that the publication organisation was the front for an independent US politician who offered himself up for election at every opportunity but never actually had any support. (Maybe polling a fraction of what Ralph Nader polls. Can’t actually remember the details). Very marginal indeed.
It may be worth noting that Webster Tarpley was the lead author of the ‘report’.
Oh yes, and it might be worth noting that the doctor’s speciality was Psychiatry.

Yeah, well:

Obama is determined to stop Glass-Steagall from being re-instated at not costs, but it will be to us. Goodbye America. Read “Reckless Endangerment” if you want to get educated on 2008 and the culprits behind it. Treason acts against our country and the human race.

Miscellaneous:

I have no idea what this is.  Apparently she is in a fight against “Barbara Fart Smell”
Wait just a minute. My association with “a criminal network which includes sex predators and child porno freaks, running coverups of child trafficking”?? Who, the IATSE Stagehands Union?  The USTA?  The AFM Musicians Union?  SAG or AFTRA?   LaRouche PAC?  Citizens For Legitimate Government?  A major insurance company?  AAA?  Jurisdictionary®? Bikers Against Child Abuse? Unless you’re speaking about one of these groups I don’t know what you could possibly be referring to. It’s statements like these that become cornerstones for slander lawsuits.
See if it goes anywhere.

Hence the scenario is that, for example, according to Rochelle Ascher, a supporter of Lyndon LaRouche, Lincoln fought the “British-backed New York banking system”

About former New Mexico governor and Presidential candidate Gary Johnson.  John Schmitz was interesting too. So was Lyndon LaRouche. (Mixed like ’em all.)

One of my favourite stories that relates, sort of, comes from a past federal election. A last-minute independent candidate made the Elections Canada cut and, in the way of many independents, made little sense. Why did he exist? He didn’t seem to stand for anything, wasn’t known to anyone, wasn’t even affiliated with Lyndon LaRouche.
However, the independent did have signs – many signs – and those signs annoyed us, because they were the same colour as and placed uncomfortably close to ours.
And let’s just say I don’t believe in coincidences, so I bet our campaign manager that I could prove to him that the situation was akin to the allegations that the Independent Native Voice political party, running in the ’95 Manitoba elections, was a vote-splitter financed by the PCs. (Yeah, Wikipedia is a hell of a time-suck, eh?) [And I’m not trying to implicate Gary Filmon, either.]
And two months later I cashed in on my bet when the independent candidate’s name surfaced as a member of another party’s executive, and his Elections Canada returns showed one donation, and only one donation…made by a former member of that same executive.

Marchetti is also the publisher of a Japanese-language book ADL and Zionism, written by LaRouche followers Paul Goldstein and Jeffrey Steinberg. Marchetti was co-publisher of the Zionist Watch newsletter when it was endorsed in direct…

How to avoid Jury Duty:
The following is a Facebook posting I put up and the response from my friend: Well off to spend the day with my peeps in the Jury Pool. Stephanie I hear they let you go home right away if you show up wearing a tinfoil liner in your Elmer fudd plaid hunting cap and a lynden larouche button.

Literary Criticism on Lady Gaga:
Similarly, her Manifesto of Little Monsters is the most succinctly convoluted two paragraphs in Western literature. One wonders whether Stefani Germanotta was ever a ghostwriter for Lyndon LaRouche.

Because nobody noticed them in Copenhagen, the Larouchies apparently decided that they needed to up that ante and “push that envelope”.   This is a disturbing escalation of tactics on the Larouche Org’s part.  (The shortened footage is seen here.)

While he was opening a recent climate conference in Melbourne, a man in the front row waved a noose at him. “I was confronted with a death threat when I gave my public lecture,” Professor Schellnhuber said.
“Somebody got to his feet and showed me a rope with a noose.
“He showed me this hangman’s rope and he said: ‘Mr Schellnhuber, welcome to Australia’.”
The man and three friends went on to interject during the lecture.
“As I tell my colleagues from time to time, ‘Some day some madman will draw a pistol and shoot you’.
“It will happen — to me or somebody else. I’m pretty sure about that.”

This kind of alarmism has led to a spate of death threats against climate scientists, most recently in Australia where a heated public debate over a proposed carbon tax is currently raging. I’m not referring to the run-of-the-mill creepy, anonymous emails that many of us receive from time to time, but to blatant and open hate-mongering. Take the example of German physicist Hans Schellnhuber, who spoke at a conference in Melbourne recently. Accused of being a “green fascist,” his speech was interrupted by a member of the audience brandishing a hangman’s noose.

Here’s the Larouchie responses.

I:  great great job !!!!
u can be very proud brothers!
love from berlin.
II.  The people who were clapping when the patriots were dragged out are going to be fleeced like the sheeple they are.
III.  From the noose waving man himself, the 2:50 mark of their defense video:  “As it came to question and answer period after his speech, Hans Schellnuber explicitly said that he did not want any questions relating to the British Empire or the British Royal Family.  So that just shows you how much this guy is — an agent.”

And that is the sum total of what the Citizens’ Electoral Council, the Australian unit of the Lyndon Larouche Movement, got out of their “intervention”.

Counter-point:
I.  Thank you for exposing yourselves as you truly are: deluded, paranoid and fanatical. Green swastika? Hanging noose? You have truly outed yourselves!
II.  “the rope was yanked out of my hands and i was very quickly escorted out of the building”  your sense of entitlement, as if that was not a justified response, is hilarious
III.  I’m from Britain, and I can tell you there is no British ’empire’ here. I can also tell you that the British royal family is not pushing for a carbon tax, nor would they benefit if one was introduced. You are living in some bizarre fantasy world.
You are one seriously disturbed individual. Imagine that they would not allow you to speak at a science meeting. I guess you did not realize that such meetings exclude people whose IQ is less than their age. It’s one of those elitist things.
I blame Global Warming. It really has some really unforseen consequences, like driving people like you completely nuts.
IV.  a small portion of people start paying $10 a week, the biggest companies in the country pay a tax for their pollution on the environment = collapse of civilisation?  I don’t think so, start using your brain.
V.  I have not seen Australian retarded rhetoric in this quantity before. Marvelous! Thanks, CECAustralia, for making it easy to spot “stupid” in Melbourne!

Debating the meaning of Glen Isherwood’s actions, one question that pops up in my mind, though, is “Why bother?”   Anything from the CEC’s side ends up a rationalization of the true meaning: it was an act of intimidation, which ends up an answer to the current shortening of the wikipedia section about “alleged harassment”.   But parsing the thing anyway gets us to…

Personally, I would take it as a death threat. It certainly seems to me to qualify as a threat to kill under a Victorian definition of such:

and it’s perhaps a shame that no action was taken to charge Glen Isherwood.
Perhaps the lawyers here can clarify the matter?
As for Motl, the guy is a few sarnies short of a picnic.

I went to the four degrees conference on Wednesday and Thursday. Not one person talked about this “intervention” by a couple of larouchians. Total impact? zero.

i don’t think this was a death threat. rather they probably tried to present this as the noose with which “eco-fascists” like Schellnhuber want to kill most of humanity. this is in line with the hysterical rants that Pierre Gosselin (NoTricksZone) and others have blurted out in the last months (Schellnhuber’s Master Plan = Mein Kampf etc.).
about the larouchites: i always tell them if they think greening the moon/mars is so easy, they should start greening the sahara, which is after all much easier. when they’re done succeeding in that, i’ll start talking to them.

i’ve thought about it some more, it could have been meant as a warning as to what happens to fascists in the end, similar to the rant LuboÅ¡ Motl gave some time ago, comparing Schellnhuber with Heydrich, and mentioning that Heydrich was in the end shot by “the people”:
Oh Gawd, are people really this crazy?

As for the hangman’s noose, perhaps the Larouche-bags would have us believe it was some touchy-feely sign of friendship? No, I can hardly believe any normal person on the receiving-end would think-so. It was a threat, plain and simple. Perhaps some of the Larouche dimwits now realise it was incredibly stupid, and it was. Effectively, they’ve taken careful aim and shot themselves in both feet.
Rather than threatening Schellnhuber with the noose, the guy’s theme seems to be something along the lines of: 1. people who believe in AGW think that our population is unsustainable. 2. therefore, people who believe in AGW want to murder people 3. to expose this, I’ll present you with a noose to show everyone explicitly what it is you want to do.
So I don’t think he was trying to threaten him as such, but out him as a wannabe murderer (a notion only visible through a LaRouche-o-scope). I do think he did a good impression of a guy who is completely batsh*t crazy.
I’d reach for my tinfoil hat, but I found out the other day that they are actually antennae, helping the shape-shifting lizard people to read your thoughts….

I don’t think that interpretation holds water. Crazy Larouchie guy says the noose is a “gift. . . a carbon-friendly rope.” If the intended message was that scientists want to kill everyone, the noose is not a ‘gift’ but a symbol of what scientists want to do.
The most charitable interpretation that is consistent with the guy’s words and actions is that the intended message was: environmentalists want people to die, so here’s a noose for you to kill yourself with. In other words: it wasn’t a death threat, it was a death invitation! Totally OK!
And yes, I know, the guy’s a none-too-bright lunatic. But he seems to be capable of dressing himself, so I’m going to make the assumption that he’s also capable of understanding exactly what message is conveyed by publicly presenting someone with a noose (one that he prepared earlier!). If he didn’t intend to convey that message, he could have pulled a different stunt.

I don’t think the noose can be plausibly interpreted as anything other than a threat (or perhaps, if we wanted to be really charitable, some kind of incoherent crazy-ass warning). Granted, it’s obvious that this guy doesn’t think too good and we wouldn’t expect his chain of reasoning to be remotely intelligible. But for that very reason, the ‘clumsy threat’ explanation is an order of magnitude more plausible than one which depends on the idea that this guy has mastered the concept of metaphor.

Isherman is demonstrably reckless in the way that he challenged Schnellnhuber with a noose, with respect to whether Schnellnhuber might fear that the threat might somehow be carried out. If Schellnhuber feared that it was a death threat, then I suspect that there is a solid case to say that Isherman made a threat to kill under 20(b).
IANAL, so I may be incorrect of course, but I reckon that if Schnellnhuber had made a complaint to the police, Isherman would be looking to gather a sum for bail, whatever his proclaimed intention might be.

For the people who want to cut the guy some slack, try the same “gag” with a pistol and see how it plays. (In your mind, of course.)
———– [No.  The pistol would be worse, as it gives the distinct impression of IMMEDIATE danger — one trigger.  The noose takes some doing, and we have only symbolism.  Mind you, this is sort of like parsing first degree and second degree and third degree crimes, but it’s an important distinction.) ——–

… Well, it gets them more attention than otherwise, I suppose:

Fast forward to Wednesday afternoon and I wandered from the office down to Customs House. Apart from some bizarre banners and pamphlets from the Citizens Electoral Council claiming that the carbon price has something to do with the queen, you could have been forgiven for thinking there wasn’t much going down.

Hm.  So… Congratulations, Larouchites. You just hanged yourselves with your own stunt.
Hey.  See what that commenter just did.  A metaphor!  Back atcha, like.

Is Mr. Anthony Watts still trying to claim that there have been no death threats, or threats of violence, made against climate scientists?
As for the woman speaking at the library, her car windscreen was smeared with excrement – animal or human, does it matter? – and the words ”climate turd” written (also in excrement) across the car bonnet. Proof perhaps, of a climate dissenter with a Freudian complex indicating arrested development. […]
The unpleasant reality is several universities across Australia have been forced to upgrade security to protect scientists. This has ranged from deleting phone numbers from websites and removing names from faculty notice boards, to installing multiple card-swipe entries, office doors protected by punch-in codes, and moving researchers to areas with secure lifts.

Two of the most shocking cases involved young women who have had little media experience or exposure. One was invited to speak on climate change at a suburban library. Her brief was simple – talk about everyday things people can do to cut their carbon footprint, talk about climate books available at the library (list provided), leave time for questions, and mingle afterwards. The other woman was asked by a local newspaper to pose with her young children for a photograph to illustrate an article promoting a community tree-planting event. She was briefly quoted as saying planting trees could help mitigate climate change. Two days after the article appeared, she received emails containing threats of sexual assault and violence against her children.

And so it goes — back to “trying to link” — a repeating frame I’m familiar with from the Obama Hitler signs.  Note Think Progress did indeed call them Larouchites.  This blog doesn’t — should it? — it appears the Larouchies want to shuffle in and take all broader scope that comes with the association (negative though their carpet bombing is).  [And yep, it was a Larouchie, not Larouche.  But isn’t a Larouchie just an extension of Larouche, in their conceptualization of the matter?  Wikipedia has been grappling with that question with their article on the movement and the man.]

A LaRouche loony in the audience held up a noose and said, “Mr Schellnhuber, welcome to Australia.” Weird, yes, but not even remotely scary.
No.  It is remotely scary.  Sure, their reputation precedes themselves, and once identified they’re somewhat easily dismissed in terms of nooses, but Test it yourself and see.

More public reaction to the “Intervention”:

Oh man. After about twenty seconds, an uncontrollable facepalm reflex kicked in, and I had to watch the rest through my fingers. I was so embarrassed for the guy, it was painful.
But for all that, the level of unhingedness is worrying – for someone that far off their rocker it’s hard to predict what they might do next.

Forgive me father for I am about to sin…
“LaRouche Youth”? Is that anything like “Hitler Youth”?
You may now invoke Godwin’s law.

Next president of the flat earth society.

Broaden it out:

As we entered the building, people were handing out leaflets for and against climate action. It didn’t take much grey matter to work out there would be some political theatre coming up. As the good professor began to speak, a protestor leapt to his feet in the second row and waved a very large noose. He yelled about a climate conspiracy involving Queen Elizabeth, the royal family, and green Nazis. He was taken by the arm by a senior academic who vigorously escorted him from the auditorium.
Some of the more extraordinary views that surface during public debates, such as those of the CEC, are cause for reflection. What tortured paths bring one to the realisation that global warming is a monarchist, green nazi conspiracy. Why are some people drawn to gurus such as the CEC’s idol Lyndon LaRouche?

AND
Many years ago, during one of Larouche’s presidential campaigns (I forget which one), he managed to buy 15 or 30 minutes of national TV time.  He used it to make a more or less incomprehensible speech consisting of a lecture in which he used charts and maps.  I don’t know if anyone understood him, but most certainly the average viewer did not.  It would be easy to imagine that it was a parody of something.  The next day at work, I was having coffee with some people, none of them very educated, and it turned out that all of them had watched it.  These were people who would discuss various topics of which they had little clue, e.g., dark matter, but not only – not even mainly – scientific topics.  (I would annoy them quite a bit by correcting them.)  Well, in the case of Larouche, none of them could even figure out how to BS about what he had said.  Each person was hoping that someone else would speak.  This was completely out of character.  Finally, one guy, who could be quite an aggressive BS-er, looked down and said, “He might be on to something, but I had no idea of what he was talking about.”  Unfortunately, I don’t have the literary talent to convey the hilarity of this scene, but I thought I’d take a chance.  Maybe you can use your imaginations.

Yeah, back to the skeptics, of sorts:
CERN covering up a study that shows climate change from cosmic rays.

There are six candidates running for the Democratic nominations for various Congressional seats in the United States in 2012.  Kesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, Summer Shields, Diane Sare, Dave Christie, and Bill Roberts.  Brown and Sare have each received a small amount of media coverage by heckling prominent political figures — Boston-based Representative Barney Frank and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, while Kesha Rogers received some for winning the nomination in 2010.  Their candidacies, and heckling at Town Hall meetings, afford them a minimum amount of media attention and a minimum amount of party invitations.  There is no hope for the possibility of a type of “Tea Party Internet Radio” appearance that Rachel Brown garnered in 2010, and Jeffrey Steinberg is in safe harbors if and when he lauds these six candidacies on the Alex Jones Show.  But, in my ongoing interest of propping up hypothetically asked questions which will never come out, but would be asked if these candidacies were indeed considered legitimate figures for office, the six candidacies should be asked in a public forum about Isherwood’s noose waving.  Perhaps as a follow up question to a question about global warming, a debate moderator would do well to, prerferably with use of the short clip of Isherwood waving the noose and saying “Welcome to Australia”, if that is an appropriate way of confronting the issue.  Their opposing candidate, naturally, would be given an opportunity to respond — whether they be Barney Frank, or if Kesha Rogers wins the nomination again — Pete Sessions.

HEY!  You know what the coming attacks on the CEC are all about?

Rupert Murdoch!
They claim to be the true inheritors of the pre-Whitlam ALP tradition. If they above was all they stood for, they would be. Allowed on Murdoch’s TV station, they are obviously coming out of the shadows. Who will stand up for the real ALP tradition, or will it be ceded to the CEC and through them to LaRouche?

POST OFFICE TOUR UPDATE!
Dateline small town of 12,000 people that has a very inviting and walkable downtown:
I live in a small town of 12,000 people that has a very inviting and walkable downtown. I strolled to the bank yesterday and noticed that a couple of young people had set up a Lyndon LaRouche “Impeach Obama” table directly across the street from the town’s busiest restaurant.
As I passed their table, the young woman who seemed to be the brains of the pair asked me, “Do you want to save the United States?” I told her that indeed I do, but that following Lyndon LaRouche’s nostrums hardly seemed the way to go about it. “Besides,” I said, “it’s obvious from your portrait of Obama with the Hitler moustache that you’re not here to convert, only to provoke.”
She was from Marin and agreed that the extremity of her presentation was bound to persuade few, if any, that Obama is, as she put it, “leading the country into fascism.”
So I asked her why she had planted her flag in such hostile territory with little or no expectation of success. She shrugged her shoulders and ask me for a donation.

Dateline Grand Ledge

One hopes the organizers are not implying that Snyder himself is a Nazi. No good ever comes of such extreme comparisons, and as recently as Tuesday, a pair of LaRouchies set up camp in downtown Grand Ledge to compare President Obama to the Fuhrer.

An Obama poster hung nearby depicting him mustachioed like the infamous Nazi dictator.
“He’s the reincarcation of Adolph Hitler,” insisted Armando Cutino, 25, of Redford.
While Obama likely doesn’t have a huge fan base in the conservative waters of Eaton County, the Nazi comparison didn’t seem to be winning a lot of converts to the LaRouche cause. Only a trickle of people approached the LaRouche volunteers during the noon hour, mostly out of curiosity.
“How dare you!” yelled one motorist, who pulled over to complain that the LaRouchies had no right to spread their message in front of a federal building.

Dateline Belmont:  the pair – a young woman with a slight, pleasant accent and the equally-young African-American who would not give their names – came to inform people of their cause.
“We came here because there are human beings here,” said the woman.
The young woman said they hoped to inform Belmont residents of the “undebatable fact that Obama is conducting an illegal war in Libya” and that unless “the people have the guts to end this with (Obama’s impeachment)” then “what’s to stop a dictatorship” from happening.
Their presence brought a Belmont police car to see what was happening and relative scorn or silent indifference by most who passed by. One woman took cell phone photos of the pair which prompted the young woman to take her own photos of the woman.

Dateline Lake Buff:  The LaRouche Political Action Committee was reported to be insulting patients of a Lake Bluff doctor at the corner of Walnut and Scranton avenues at 1:57 p.m. July 8. Some episodes were described as confrontational. The officer was advised by Village Hall that the LaRouche Political Action Committee did not file a permit. The officer met with Donald and Judy Clark, who said they did not file a permit but had been at the intersection before. Donald Clark said he went to the police station and received verbal permission for that day, and he was given a copy of the permit form.
A resident in the 200 block of East Center Avenue lodged a complaint that a portable toilet had been placed directly across from his home and was requesting it be moved at 10:03 a.m. July 3. People were using the portable toiler and throwing their trash in his yard. The officer and the resident moved the structure down a short distance between houses so to not obstruct his view.

Dateline Phillipines Lest our organization and like-minded Filipinos be drawn into debates on political preferences, on anticipated and periodic elections, despite the insidious or expressed manifestations of opportunists among the opposing proponents and among the desperate incumbents, we must continuously and vigorously stress that the fundamental reason for the failure of our leaders to govern and promote our people’s welfare, is their negligence, and cowardice to confront the evil which has imposed its greed on Philippine society, and the rest of humanity.

Dateline Worcester:   I would like to note that the Larouche PAC will be meeting at the library on Tuesday, July 26.  No news yet on whether there will be singing.
(Serious question: why is there no Wikipedia entry for “Larouchian polyphony”?)
Now, I find the Larouche movement to be misguided and misleading at best and cultlike at worst (not to mention their posters make my skin crawl), but as there are other political groups that periodically meet at the library (Democratic City Committee among others), I don’t see how you can exclude the Obama-with-Hitler-mustache-ites.  I’m interested to see who might protest the Larouche PAC, though.  (More in a theoretical sense.  Please don’t protest them.  I hate having to run the gauntlet while returning materials.)

GLASS STEAGALL OR DIE:  NO OTHER OPTION!! (That slogan has a bit more relevance now that the Larouchies are running around waving nooses at their enemies…)

Canadian Survivalist Society, eh?
“Nationalist Bloc is emerging”, hm.
Well, you know what they’re saying about Ron Paul —
He’s an utterly discredited perennial candidate – the Libertarian counterpart of Lyndon LaRouche. He provides comic relief to Republicans, just like Lyndon LaRouche provides comic relief to the Democrats.
Also Buddy Roemer:
Has Lyndon LaRouche gotten in yet? Knucklehead on July 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM. No-but Ron Paul’s in. Same thing. a

Letter to the editor for  Franklin Bell, Bluemont — Clarke County, Virginia
What is encouraging is the potential patriotic juggernaut two of those new co-sponsors represent[…] They exemplify a potential alliance of principle that is willing to put aside party politics for the cause of the nation.
The B lindfolded Lady with the Scales Won:
Ah Lyndon LaRouche. Here is a man made famous for bilking little old ladies out of their life savings. When I lived in Leesburg, on an early morning in October, 1986, I heard a commotion on Catoctin Circle. I looked out to see swat teams and armored vehicles marshalling for some kind of major bust. They raided the offices of Lyndon LaRouche. In 1988 he was convicted of fraud and tax charges and sentenced to 15 years in prison. Blind justice is not the fat lady, but she sings very well.

RIOTS LIKE THIS WILL SPREAD IN ALL NATIONS AS LONG AS THE PRESENT MONETARY FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC WORLD SYSTEM BASED ON THE BRITISH MODEL IS NOT CHANGED BY THE RESTORATION OF A GLOBAL GLASS-STEGALL ACT WHICH SEPARATES COMMERCIAL AND INVESTMENT BANKING. LAROUCHE PLAN WILL SAVE THE WORLD FROM PLUNGING INTO THE NEW DARK AGE COMPARABLE TO THAT WHICH OCCURRED IN THE 14TH CENTURY. IMF/WORLD BANK.INTER-ALPHA MONEY CHANGERS MUST BE THROWN TO THE MUSUEMS OF HISTORY NEVER AGAIN TO BE SEEN BY MANKIND.

“Inter Alpha Money Changers’, eh? Yeah, well… Interesting that the EIR “Ugly Truth of ADL” is on this blog as a source, and that this blog keeps popping up.

Also, now Don Nicolson officially is on board, when does Lyndon LaRouche’s candidacy get announced? tom hunter (2018) Says: July 12th, 2011 at 5:56 pm. Sheesh Andrew – should you not be over on this thread defending a party that thinks

Capitalist Pigs. Ayn Rand’s ass-kissing lovers, rightwing Libertarians (Check out Lyndon Larouche), Morons. Dumbasses.

PURGE IN LEESBURG???

No, I haven’t — nor will I — watch the video.  Tell me what precise minutes to look at and I’d go ahead and scan, but otherwise all I have is this.

In the latest Weekly Report, THE DEAR LEADER declared war on the boomers in the first portion, declaring them unfit for leadership in this nation. Which means, the boomers in the organization.
Now, it seems that NIGEL [Jeff Steinberg] was singled out for praise and merciful retention, as was Debbie. And, of course, the ancient Lyn himself.
The others have been, as of Monday post-luncheon, excluded from all future leadership… whatever that may mean. NIGEL and Debbie have spearheaded a change in the organisation.
Notably absent from the list of the retained is the man sitting next to Lyn at the moment of this declaration: EIR Senior Economist John Hoefle, who must have been at that Monday meeting.
How I wish the camera panned over a bit when Lyn was making this declaration… What was John doing with his giant hands? Wringing them? ….Or pooling the sweat in his palms?
At 12:30, Lyn muttered something like, “And that includes certain people in this room who xxxx”
ANYONE KNOW WHAT HE SAID??! Was he condemning John Hoefle as one of the heart-breaking failures from the boomer generation, or was it something else?!
At 21:30, THE DEAR LEADER repeats, for the twelfth time, “At the meeting on Monday, the fact that only ONE member of the boomers spoke up–apart from me, but I’m too old to be a boomer.”
He chuckles, and off-camera one can hear John chuckling too… forcing it out.
In other news, Sky Shields, beneficiary of a racist slip-up, is singled out for a leadership position going forward, mostly because he likes to play with Lyn (through Classical composition).
…Holy crap. At 48:00, the camera zooms in on John Hoefle, who’s practically in tears as he admits the total failure of his generation. He tells CYBORG and THE DEAR LEADER that the boomers [and he himself] are a broken down old car to be shoved out of the way if they can’t change. Which is what Lyn’s already done.
CYBORG nods and says, “Yes.” Everyone laughs, especially Lyn, who cryptically remarks to John, “So you got a good shot at that one, eh?” John says, “Yeah!”
Good shot at what? Getting shoved the hell out of the way?
Good Heavens.

Y’know, I really wanted to give this topic a rest until next month, but… but then came the damned noose.   And so it goes.  Yeah, well, Hey!  Wayne Madsen thinks Obama is CIA.  Wow, that’s… he should dig in one deeper to find the Inner Alpha Group.  Or, as Cliff Kincaid has it, he should go to the Communist well.

So… Lyndon Larouche, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, John Hagelin, Michael Bloomberg, Ralph Nader… for them, a branch of social therapy weaved …

Fred Newman was a philosophy teacher, but was fired from seven colleges. Later he created something that he called “Social Therapy.” According to Newman, who was not a psychologist, this “therapy” helped people to “overthrow” what he labeled the “bourgeois ego.”
According to Newman his therapy is about “two workers, revolutionary therapist and slave/patient, [and their] struggle together to make a revolution through their practice.” The goal is “helping the slave reach the point of insurrection” and “to make proletarian truth and freedom where there is now bourgeois truth and slavery.”

Somewhere after Al Sharpton, the Newmanites had their own shift in ideological orientation — or, tactical ideological orientation — wherein they moved from a position out on the “Left” over to a dedicated process-reform oriented “Independent” contrivances, ready to bring about change through radically off-beat alliances.  The practical reason is that the Newmanites were useful for various pols — if they gave Sharpton, as they boasted in news accounts at the time, half of his protest marchers in the early 1990s, they now could offer Ross Perot key ballot access gathering know how for the Reform Party, and a ballot line for Michael Bloomberg and Ralph Nader.  Pat Buchanan offered them a splash of media attention — “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Lenora Fulani”, Bloomberg offered public support for their theater charity program, and Ralph Nader? — well, they need votes to maintain the third spot on the ballot, don’t they?

This transformation into the realm of “Independence” gives them a new claim for media attention.  I was not aware of the name Jacqueline Salit I saw in a Newman obituary that she was Newman’s co-host in reviewing Sunday morning political talk shows.  That obituary link takes us to one of their popular-as-curiosity-items Sunday discussions, this on a potential Michael Bloomberg presidential run that was being floated about in 2007.  The two hosts discuss the “Indendent Movement” as though they are the self-appointed spokesperson and king-makers of such a thing, and to them Bloomberg belongs to THEM.  (Since when?  Well  it’s this.)
Their curious “nonideological” ideology provides then with an entre point with this slew of “non party” “centrist” organizations that keep popping up: “Third Way” and “No Labels”.  Understand, throw out the word “Reform” and “Independent” and just about everyone will have an idea of what that means, and be in support of it.  Off of an insane publication, “The Neo-Independent”, Salit gets invited on an occasional Fox News and CNN program as an “expert in Independent Politics” — CNN and Fox News have a lot of time they need to fill —

Okay, this next one runs a bit too far into a game of “Connecto”:
Today’s cast of characters: John Batchelor, his frequent beastly Co-Host John Avalon, the Mayor of NYC, Jesse Ventura, No Labels, David Brooks, Fred Newman, and of course Lenora Fulani.
David Brooks, for instance, is just enamored of a world without Partisan Friction, where the “partisan interests” that “control each party” have been shoved aside.  But I find a couple of items fascinating here.  When I was needling (at this blog) the “Independent Party of Oregon” as a wholly ridiculous entity — (a place-mat on the ballot, to gain endorsements for whatever candidate wins an online primary — a curious contraption.)…
IT BURNS!!!!

Item number two — okay, it’s one thing to pop up on Fox News and CNN as an “Independent Expert”, but… The Al Sharpton Show?  We’ve come full circle here with Newmanitis…

NEWMAN AND DUKE BRING OUT THE LAROUCHE!!! That confluence of two political fringe figures in the news events — Fred Newman’s death and an announced 25 state tour as a way to explore a presidential bid from one David Duke — brought to mind anticipation for … wacky mentions of the name Larouche.  How many allusions did this give Larouche?
Two.
Yeah, well… On Newman’s death, we get this:

Lyndon LaRouche is cackling, having out lived his fellow political cut leader.

After that, we do have something worth looking at as an instructive venture into the future:

It was about time….Fred was a walking tub of dog-shit, sorry it took so long, now I guess his hooker will be looking for another intellectual pimp Ms Folani

May rabid ‘possums gnaw Fred Newman’s corrupt ass to dust!
Lenora (Foolani) Fulani is now doomed to walk the earth with nothing to say and nothing to think, given that everything she did and said was dictated by Newman.
It was POETIC and POLITICAL that Newman, via kidney failure, would literally drown in his own piss…A fitting end to a political con man/pimp/psychotic.
Now the real comedy begins in the Newmanoidal asylum.
You won’t need cable TV anymore, as Newman’s women and wannabe commissars battle over the crumbs he left behind. There will be court drama galore. And poor Foolani will certainly find herself without a job in the end. There will be no more white master to serve.

Ha! Fulani and that In-DEPENDS Party are history. You think da billionayor mayor and the assorted low end outer borough omerta political hoodlums are going to want to sit down with those shrimpheads and negotiate for that line on the ballot? He-yell no, they only wanted to talk to the Big Man–those chowderheads will get eaten alive. Every two-bit political crook’s trippin over each other trying to be the first to snatch that party from Newmans drones.

And it goes on.

Who wouldn’t fall in love with Newman’s cuddly ex-commies described in the CUIP web site? Hell, they’ve gotten beyond that ideology stuff altogether. They are pure structural reformists with not one microgram of an agenda. Right? Right?
Man, that’s so cool and post-modern. It’s like sitting around a campfire with the KKK, toasting marshmellows and grooving on Barry Manilow songs.
Where can I sign up?

Meantime, the quick burst of news flurry regarding David Duke — and his announced 25 state tour “testing the waters” — invited a “Partisan lob match” with larouche as the object tossed about.  Somewhere after asserting Hitler as a Communist, and seemingly that Marx invented anti-semitism… David Duke once was a Democrat, Fred Phelps is a Democrat and… Larouche.  And after the response “Since when?”, it’s…

La Rouche is not a Democrat? In which universe? How on earth can you possibly have come to that conclusion? What distinguishes him from any other Democrat? I think you know very well that he’s a Democrat, and you’re just desperately lying about it.

Stopping for a moment for Occam’s Razor and how many people really spend much time figuring out what party affiliation Larouche has… having called through their presidencies two out of the last three Democratic presidents Hitler and we can toss Al Gore into that mix — “desparately lying about it” is a bit of a stretch.
Further, playing “Occam’s Razor” with David Duke — well, he did win two state-wide nominations with the Republican Party, though was brushed aside by the party in quick course.

This is a bit better in terms of cross-political discussions and “walking across to the other side”:

As a conservative Republican, it was interesting to see how my side is perceived from across No Mans’ Land. The power and unmitigated evil of the forces they are opposing is taken as fact. As far as the activist Democrats are concerned, they are up against something vast and terrible and cunning and well organized and well funded. I have personally seen no evidence that any of this is true, but they clearly believe it. […]
The people at the meeting were generally nice, sincere and concerned about the direction of the country. I say this despite total disagreement with their political views, and more than that, a very basic disagreement about how the world works, what is good for the country, and what the role of government ought to be, among many other things. But their harsh hostility to a largely imaginary evil enemy was the major jarring note. Nonetheless, among themselves they are pleasant and normal and practical. […]
Three good and One bad.  See, there is some elbow room here for political discussion — it would probably take a while to extrapolate for each side of the debate what each side thinks is screwing us over, but we have enough common room for it.

Get ‘im in touch with…

To continue my penchant of defending groups I really dislike

You can easily tell the difference between the Tea Party protesters and the Lyndon Larouche protesters; the latter tend to be young kids (sometimes of color) who look like they’ve stumbled out of a frat party and into a hate rally, whereas the latter tend to be old white folks waving flags and posing for photo-ops with people dressed in tricorns and Colonial garb.
(Or…even simpler: Belmont Street = Lyndon Larouche.  Lincoln Square = Tea Party.)

Back to Chicago, we get to:
After it was over I talked to the LaRouchies outside. As always, they sounded lucid for the first two sentences or so, then fade into La La Land. I liked the map of a global high speed rail network, including a bridge across the Bering Strait. For the trillion bucks, give or take, we spent on the stimulus we could have built a train to Russia. It would have been a better use of the money.
That’s one good and three bad.

Interesting thing here:  Former LaRouchie Wayne Madsen aka ‘Tripoli Wayne’ has been getting a lot of time on RT lately, so no surprise there. Anyway, the Bering Bridge would be the first intercontinental pipeline/railway/highway with its own patron saint: Herman of Alaska. And it would enable the U.S. and Russia to interconnect the world’s two largest gas producers. I think forty of fity year bonds for such a project would be oversubscribed by Korean, Chinese and Japanese bond buyers.

Wait.  Is Wayne Madsen a “former Larouchie”, or is he mixing Wayne Madsen up with Webster Tarpley?
I don’t know if some things make all that difference.  Madsen may as well be thrown in that mix with Tarpley, for all I care.  This Larouchian blogger once  specifically praised Tarpley for not selling out to the Oligarchy — unlike, we see here his reference to former member and “Biofuels sellout propagandist and quandom Rickover  biographer: Robert Zubrin“.

But, Tarpley… Madsen:  Many,many people realized the 9/11 movement is a cult that is rotten with Jew haters,former Urantia Cult leaders,Scientologists,LaRouchies (just get a load of Alex today!) liars,opportunists and egomaniacs and have rethought their position.You illustrate expertly the paranoid style that dominates.Just get a load of Alex today, indeed.

AND

If the above “progressive” movemenst and “alternative” media knowingly allows or permits anything less than full accountability will be de facto mass group suicide and the death of the movement; This is now unfortunatly happening; The party is over!; The “progressive” movement is now giving uncritical air time, including giving or lending demogogic leadership roles and on and off air support to La Rouche & Co., (Re: Webster Tarpley) the Church of Scientology cult, (A Scientologist is on Pacifica’s national board) or racist, anti-imigrant, anti-national healthcare, anti-public education, pro-Tea Party, pro-Republican Party, pro-total prvietization, pro-deregulation, pro-military, Pro-Libertarian Party/ closet Republicans, global warming deniers and right-wingers lke Alex Jones & Co.) will be opening the door and invitation for a hostile takeover of the “progressive” movements; This takeover now shows signs of an ugly scenario of galloping ultra-rightist (Including hordes of John Birch Society types like Alex Jones) and fascist infiltration, government, corporate media and corporate contracted hijackings; A hostle take over and control of the left and the anti-war movements has been and still is in progress since the signing of the National Security Act of 1947 and since the start of PROJECT PAPERCLIP, MKULTRA and Project Mocking Bird (CIA media fronts); The facts and circumstancial evidence show this to be happening by the same war makers, empire builders; All with the help of their secretive contractors that these above “progressive”movements constantly claim and preach that they are against. Much of the left is in a state of MASS DENIAL (dissociative disorder) […]

THE FOURTH REICH is suceeding in duping the masses into thinking like Alex Jones-thinking like the John Birch Society, constantly using psy-ops seemingly sincere anti-war lingo as a recruitment ploy (Obama and the entire Washington establishment do the same Orwellian linguistic trick) as a gateway into thinking more and more like the ultra-right and fascists-This is the the Intelligence establishment’s psychological process of taking over the population’s minds and overall political and social consciousness; And convincing them that nothing has psychologically or politically altered their world and thinking; But in fact it has without their knowledge or permission via government sponsored orchestration of mass deception and illusion..

PO TOUR:

Dateline Detroit, Milky Way, Universe. The Bill Robert Campaign for Congress.

I read over the information. The National Statement is from LaRouche Democrats. I ask a question about a sentence on the literature: “Human civilization is now entering the northern region of our Milky Way’s galactic disc.” Having focused my campaign writing on conciseness, precision, and lofty rhetoric, this strikes me as a sentence I would never include in a lit piece. The man proceeds to draw a picture of the Milky Way with its arms and talks about a sixty-two million year cycle that coincides with mass extinctions.
The LaRouche statement, which is “Not Authorized by Any Candidate or Candidate’s Committee,” features a photo of a man standing at an adjacent LaRouche table. He is passing out the same literature and attempting to engage college students in the conversation I find myself in.
I ask him, in my Michigan Political Junkie sort of way, which district he is running in.
“The universe,” he replies.
I try to play along with his joke and ask again. He repeats, “The universe,” and adds, “so it’s pretty hard ta get out ta constituents.”
My organizer tells me they have an office about twenty minutes away.

Yes.  We have a contributor to LPAC there.  Not here, though:

No’, I said, ‘from Ireland.  Which British occupation are you protesting against?’
‘The British occupation of the United States through the power of the City of London – it is the centre of world power.  It is like the days of the East India Company and the opium wars.  Do you understand how strong private interests can be?’
‘I have a degree in politics and history from the London School of Economics – I do know my history. If you are objecting to the power of financial institutions, then why don’t you say so?’
‘Because the power is centred in Britain and because Obama is collaborating with them’.
‘If your objection is to the power of the IMF and the World Bank and the other bodies, then name them’.
‘But people understand when we name the British’.

Dateline Smith Street: The Larouche PAC protesters, complete with images of President Obama wearing a Hitler moustache, were back on Smith Street near the post office and, according to the log at 2:04 p.m. Their appearance inspired “numerous” complaints to the police. At least one protest, however, has come from the protesters. “Received a call from Myles Robinson of the Larouche PAC complaining there are three boys who are harassing him and he feels intimidated,” according to the police report. “He also related that every time someone approaches the table that the boys yell at them.” Police responded by pointing out the boys had a right to be at the post office. Meanwhile, a woman complained to police that she told the PAC that she disagreed with them and they told her to “grow a brain.”

Dateline Jesus!
On July 5th, I stopped by the Whitestone post office to check the church’s mail, and as I rounded the corner onto 150th Street, I saw one of the great freedoms of our nation being lived out. Two women had a table set up in front of the post office representing the Lyndon LaRouche movement. Their posters were troubling if not offensive, calling for the impeachment of President Obama, among various and sundry other strange political moves. As I entered and exited the post office, they called out to me in hopes that I might sign their petition for impeachment, but I walked on after offering a firm and angry “no,” deeply frustrated that anyone could feel so abused by the politics of these days as to suggest such a move. As angry and frustrated as I was, I reminded myself as I walked on that their unpleasant and frankly weird politics and even their frustrating tactics stand at the core of who we are as a nation – we don’t just shut down speech because we don’t like it but rather insist that all perspectives have a right to be heard. So the core principles of our nation are at their best in moments like these, in moments when they get lived out in unexpected and even slightly unpleasant ways. And so it is also with our life of faith.

Dateline France:

Showing Paul Volker the Love!!!!

Hm.

LaRouche is the one that is leading the drive to reinstate FDR’s Glass-Steagall to protect the American people over the Wall St crooks. I am sure that King’s increased efforts to slander LaRouche are tied in to the fact that the support for Glass-Steagall is building rapidly across the country & even in Congress itself.

Or… Although it is certain that the royal servants at The Economist are keeping a close watch on LaRouche and the Basement team at LaRouchePAC, they certainly don‘t wish to mention it in this effort to declare victory over the American System.

Wow, I’m fuckin not surprised, I guess……thanks for the background on that.
The LaRoucheBorgs I witnessed may have been an elite team of thusly musically-reprogrammed cult members.
The effect was highbrow xmas-carrols with something disturbingly way off.
And I am not being sarcastic or whatever...

COMMENTPALOOZA!!!

You know, the last time Steinberg appeared on Alex Jones, and then Larouche a week later, I listened to most and much of it (something I will not be doing in the future) and I could not help but think that next time, Steinberg should have followed Larouche.  Granted, Steinberg is an attraction to nobody, but somebody needs to bring the thing together.  This time out, he did follow Larouche.
But now I am thinking… you know, actually if the Larouchies really believed their rhetoric over the past decade, they would jettison Steinberg and bring on Rachel Brown.  I think I should into that petition drive to get Alex Jones to dump the Steinberg interviews and replace him with Rachel Brown — who, as the org said, became a National Political Figure after her historic 20 point performance in that primary election against Barney Frank.

Odd question.  2012 Patriot, my ass.  Let’s go.  AND.  AND.

This Video needs to go Viral
This again?  Because there’s nothing that is going to grab the Public’s attention more than seeing Jeffrey Steinberg.
Actually, something did go viral.  A youtube clip of a viewer watching this.  Watch it here!

Well Howie G’s got it. Alex Jones let out the LaRouche stuff, Harlem dudes and it was a big explosion. Apparently he’s written a new song parody, to the Baja Men’s one hit wonder from 2000.  “Who let Larouchies out?”  “Jones, Jones, Jones!”

The vast majority of Americans have never heard of the Glass Stiegel Act, let alone know what it is. What this guy is saying sounds great. It would really be great if people knew what it was about. Glass Stiegel isn’t as important as say, The Cake Boss, or Monday Night football.

Football season’s a ways off.  I have no clue what the “Cake Boss” is — apparently the Larouchies are more up on current pop trash culture than I am?

Glass-Steagall Act….those three words will bring the off-shore bank cartels to their knees

we lost the revolution and the illuminatti control usa. see my blog make it viral we have a monark problem
monarkworldorder dot blogspot dot com

HEY JEFF, you sound like a brainwashed mook. You are speaking as if law still exist as if a court in the land will hear one word of anyone complaining. THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT. THE THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT ARE A BUSINESS. YOU ARE A FUCKIN SLAVE. SHUT UP AND GET BACK TO WORK. THESE GUYS ARE FUCKIN CRIMINALS AND ANYONE WHO STANDS IN THEIR WAY GETS THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM. These fuckers kill millions like they’re germs. You’re 200 years too late. Maybe in 200 years it will change.

Yesm the oligarchs know that the reproduction rates level out. What they want to so is completely reverse the population picture. Did you see where scientist now believe that the first 150 year old humans already have their lives well under way? It is the age of the super humans and we are in their way

Alex Jones – You are a brain washing idiot.You think that America is plotting against you, you think everyone is ‘out to get you’ no they are not.You just use scare tactics to make brainless people follow you.
You talk about countries including the United Kingdom,you make up stories about the UK and try to brainwash us.
I feel sorry everyone who believes your childish stories.
I know you will block me now because you don’t actually like people talking about you and questioning your thoughts

OR>>>  YOU HAVE MEDDLED WITH THE PRIMARY FORCES OF NATURE!!!
OR... 1 ) William and Kate, aka the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (the English one, not the American one) visit North America, causing LaRouchies across the country to quake in fear.

Your quite wrong and your obviously not a follower of the show and what it covers. I used to think Alex Jones was a bit wild but no longer. Let me give you a book its 98 pages long its called ‘none dare call it conspiracy ‘ by Gary Allen.
This book generally outlines the conspiracy and the agenda thats continuing to this day. If you still feel hes a kook after reading it fair enough but the book will show you where hes coming from nonetheless.

you mean communist murderers. this is marxist genocide of older Whites, because they vote GOP and teach youths not to race mix.

Mr. LaRouche, we can indeed turn this boat around. My friends and I are growing food right now as I type this, lots of food. We intend on feeding more than half of our community here in Southern Indiana. We hope this will spread like wild fire. If it does, we’ll once again be unstoppable. We won’t need their GMO foods, their money, their social engineering….we’ll take it back with food!

a new low for AJ, everything said here a lie. “well I know you don’t like to talk about yourself(Larouche). Total BS.  Research the guy yourself, LL is a self centered nut. Like Hitler/Jim Jones, LL has predicted doomsday events over and over while being wrong and has a “youth movement” named after him. Also he was never an economist(was a B2B shoe salesman) but did write an econ book. He did not come out of Calcutta an economist, there actually he joined the socialist party . . .

Oh? And, what’s so hot about osambo? He’s only, what, WREAKED the U.S. economy? Don’t hand me “Dubya” did it, your precious yard ape has had nearly three years, yet all he’s done is give monies to the banksters and favors to the unions. Moreover, osambo is a typical nigger – so dumb he needs special privileges to get by. It’s how he got into college, and its how the nigger gets by now.

Lyndon LaRouche is nothing more than a power hungry nut who runs a political cult.

“We have a problem with the British”. I had laugh. LaRouche always has a problem with the British no matter what.

Ex CIA ? = still CIA !

As I put things away in the farm shop the other day, the phone rang. I picked up and a voice on the other end said “Hello, my name is Anton I’m calling you because Lyndon
LaRouche wants to take your .…”
My normal response to political calls is to hang up. That’s what I did, and made a mental note to move the phone up higher. We’re having a flood you know. I no more than stepped away from the phone when it rang again. The voice on the wire said hesitantly, “Hello, this is Anton again.”
That’s when Anton got an earful.
I confess I used an expletive in my brief outburst against poor Anton. He interrupted me to advise that the call was being recorded. As I later told a friend about my little speech to Anton, “That should be some good listening!”

Yeah, my first thought on seeing this was “Is that… the Anton?” — which strikes me as a little odd, given his place in the Larouche firmament — I mean, he co-wrote the Bush book, and was the one who hackled Ezekial Emanuel! — that he would be dialing for dollars.  But maybe his sales technique is that good that he is the one to raise funds from Tornado and Flood Victims.
My gauge has been, of late, to bring some things up to the current date with respect to the congressional campaigns of Kesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, Summer Shields —

hm.  “The early impeachment and ouster of President Barack Obama is almost inevitable as an event before or during the coming Summer months, unless the backers of Obama, especially from London, were to copy the Adolf Hitler option with the likeness of the British creation, Adolf Hitler’s March 24, 1933 Ermächtigungsgesetz.”

Diane Sare, Dave Christie, and Bill Roberts, and some hypothetical debate and fparty forum question which will be asked but would if they were real candidates taken seriously.  Unfortunately, this one editorial news item is not enough to run on for questioning on the ethics of “Fund raising from Natural Disasters”, but… maybe someone should look into that.  I suppose this is what the current “government failing to accurately and precisely predict natural disasters” part of the “Globalist Plot to Eliminate 4 Billion People” is all about.

While Summer Shields, being that he is running for the Democratic House leader’s seat, will likely be with even fewer party functions than the others next year, if he were he should be asked why either his Obama Impeachment prediction didn’t come true or, since he isn’t impeached, whether he believes we’re now living under Nazi Germany.

Something else someone should look into:

The Glenn Beck connection:
About 30-40 years ago, members of Lyndon LaRouche’s cult followed Frances Fox Piven (a specialist on urban poverty) around the country to disrupt her speaking tours, and she was nearly pushed down a flight of stairs by someone calling her a fascist and CIA agent. Now, Glenn Beck has placed this elderly Jewish woman on his list of most despicable Jews, alleging that she “sows the seeds of revolution.” And, Glenn Beck’s followers make open threats of violence against this elderly woman, right on Glenn Beck’s website. […]
Since Glenn Beck lifts a lot of his material directly from Lyndon LaRouche, I’m wondering what the relationship is? Does Glenn Beck simply read and regurgitate LaRouche’s ideas, to save time on research? Or, is there some actual collaboration? Do some of Glenn’s employees have membership in the LaRouche organization?

Hm.  There’s a reason that I have chopped Beck and Alex Jones into my “continuing look-over” of The “Larouche Challenge”.  Actually there’s a few reason — one is that I sometimes get bored peering at “rare species of exotic floral” and want so go to something of clearer and larger imprint on our political culture.  The Jones — Beck connection is pretty well documented: Beck has lifted material from Jones, generally drawing up a partisan cast for them.  In the past, I’ve drawn up Jones — Larouche as pretty much entirely ideological — the eternal battle against THEY, wallowing in the same fever swamp and one that Larouche has played a part in for the past few decades.  But Jones’s having now found a spot for Larouche in his rotation of guests pretty well cements something a tad more — my thought on this matter has shifted about 30 degrees.  I have a half baked theory that upon Larouche’s death, Steinberg and Chaitkin and others now have readied connections with Jones that allows for an escape hatch — whether directly with Jones or just as a primary platform for Executive Intelligence Review sans Larouche.
I have tried to see if anything new has filtered into Alex Jones space Larouche-wise that suggests more corroboration, but there’s enough ideological symmetry that I can’t really say if there’s any difference — the “environmentalist Malthusian eugenics plot” has long been there, and my perception of an up-tik in “British Royal Family” items may just be from looking for something.

I want to thank “The New Survivalist” (his politics appear to be just as the name suggests) for getting this  Alex Jones — Lyndon Larouche conflab sliced to 17 minutes.  Much more brings the problem of the Overwhelming Crazy.  I hope The New Survivalist will do this task again in the future.

In my research I found that LaRouche was a double agent, check his brainwashed youth if you do not believe me. The specific problem was that he wants total power with no better solution than the fascism that he would claim to solve. Sorry to his fans, for a second there I thought we had a new brave hope…

The incompatible nature of the two’s ideology is glaring, even with the similarities.  I do not for a second believe Jones buys into the “Mobilize the Public to get Glass Steagal Repealed in the next month and this will immediately put Obama out of office and will awaken the public from the long nightmare” stance, or the “Majority in Congress, and Senate, and Gubernatorial System (?) are good people” line.  (How about John Kerry, huh?)  But Jones smiles along and nods anyway.

Some lines from these 17 minutes:  “some weaklings in the United States afraid to close in on itself.” “Cannot survive the conditions in July — will collapse sometime in the Summertime.” “Twitter operates a riot creating operation. Twitter as an organization is control, control from the type. […] Reduce the population from 7 Billion down to 1.  We’re looking at a whole system — began in the Roman Empire.  [–] established as a new empire with [] Venetian Party… did a lot of killing… outcome with the 70 years’ war.” … The Obama Administration is an instrument of that policy of genocide.  If you look at the policy — only Obama and what he represents are the people who are behind –  Are we going to be Human or are we going to be cannibals?  If you go for Obama, you are going for Cannibals.  8:52:  “He’s impeachable because he’s insane also.  And he couldn’t be what he is if he weren’t insane.  This man is a mental case of a certain type.”
[Jones brings up the 57 states gaffe, and I don’t know about the Age of daughters thing… neither all that interesting, really — but in the world of this conspiracy thing, as well as partisan hackery — politicians can never ever make a misspeak.   I’ll have to check into the  “There’s news today asking if he’s starting to have mental problems” ]
“He’s crazy.  Nero…”  False Flag:  Ruling Class Tricks, block from removing them from power: 9/11.  British system, certain branch of its operation, together with Saudi Kingdom — [the funding for 9/11… a vast ]…  Congressmen, good ones, not working together on a common cause… not effective in fighting against a man who is rotten…  “Bush all over the place.    “Glass Steagal will unite enough members of Congress to create a force that will be able to face stand up to Obama … if succeed, we will have crippled Obama and lead to elimination of him from the Presidency.  And then, the American people will see that they have their nation back, and… Mobilize.”  (To question of whether a Staged Terror Attack is in order, an example of the two having two different agendas and talking past each other)  “Incorrect.  Restore sense of … we can win this fight and win it in short order.”

Whew.

Comment-palooza Time!  For this, and various youtube clips of the show.  Here.

Two or three decades ago I sent the Larouchies photocopies of a 33rd degree Council book I got in a used book store. They asked me what my solution was. I told them the only solution was to take out all the mass-murderers – the entire political-judicial-legal-bureaucratic system and start over with a theocratic system.
They said, No, no. We can fix things like this with economics. Build a bridge in Germany, etc. Wrote them off, although I really like their books – like Dope, Inc., Ugly Truth About the ADL, etc.

Really its homey to have a 90 year old “expert” on everything puff  & blow like he has all the answers but come on now…  We know this country is whiskey bent and hellbound if its down to us having to LISTEN TO LYNDON LAROUCHE!

How ironic and bizarre is this?!? Lyndsay LaRouchan,a two headed monster brought to us by……………Alex Jones?!? I thought Alex was a serious person.
You really have to wonder just what is Alex Jones’ agenda.
Who’s next on the platform,Paris Hilton? David Duke? Oops,forgot,Dave’s already aboard.You know,the Jew thing.

Thanks Alex for consistently identifying fringe elements to the 911 Truth movement. One step forward, 3 steps back.

http://www.infowars.com/lyndon-larouche-war-is-globalist-favorite-tool-of-choice-for-poplutation-reduction/

LaRouche is a seriously imbalanced and mentally frail individual. He wanted to build a canal across Africa in the later 60s and early 70s. He has not got one single balanced thought in his repetroire. His shtick is humourous, not hillarious as that would imply intellegence, but humourous as in nut case.

Ok, I’ll be the fall guy on this cointelpro post…
LaRouche is a brilliant individual and the fact that paid gov trolls like yourself expend your employers resources in efforts to discredit him is further proof of that.
LaRouche’s philosophies would save America and much of the rest of the world if people in power listened to him and applied his knowledge.

That’s right folks, if you search for info about LaRouche online, you’ll see that for years there’s been a massive smear campaign effort online spanning hundreds of sites and negative articles that have flooded the search engines, pushing most if not all the positive info off the front pages of the search results and into the abyss. This is a tactic used by detractors to discredit individuals and groups who do not fit into the plans of governments and those in power. It’s a tactic to bury people, and the comment made by magnacarta above is parroting the negativity.

So when you see magnacarts’s comment above, then you google LaRouche’s name to find out what he’s talking about, it looks like LaRouche is a crackpot because google’s search results seem to back up his statement. It also has the added benefit of making supporters of LaRouche look like crackpots themselves (See my reply above).
Unfortunately, most cursory searches are enough to convince the majority of people without a second thought as they see something shiny or their phone beeps with a txt from their bff or the redbull starts to kick in.
It’s very effective, but only if you are naive enough to keep falling for it.
Knowing the propagandists tactics and being able to see them in action is the first step to truly waking up.
(Hey.  I know all about that Conspiracy!)

i just want to second WeCanHide’s insight into the Google search technique of burying alternative information. i was looking into Mao’s education at Yale Divinity School east and membership in some oriental Skull and Bones thing. nomatter how i worded my search i had to go ten pages deep to find anything.

The false flag attack they they are speaking of will be the tactical nukes that went mising in the soviet union. The illumanati purchased these to be used on american soil.This will keep obama in power unless the illumanati can buy another canidate because less face it. We know they bought Jimmy Carter,George Bush Senior,Bill Clinton,Bush junior, Barak Hussein Obama. Revelation states the Beast will hate the women(america) and will eat her flesh(economy) and burn her with fire. Stock up on food.

Obama is not going anywhere, there is only one solution to getting rid of him, but who is willing to pull the trigger? (Eep?)

LaRouche sounds like confusion specialist. Blah blah blah. Screw LaRouche. What an Ass! Why should someone control whether you live or die while telling you what to believe. Screw this prick. The only problem is the nature of hierarchy and its psychotic nature. It seems like it’s coming from somewhere where they don’t care. Didn’t people formerly live without central oppression and control. Isn’t centralized oppression “slavery”?

U really gotta’ love how Alex ALWAYS (110% of the time) tries 2 diflect attention away from jewz =)) WHOA NO! Never mind the people coming up with these big $ scams R mostly jewz – it’s the magical ‘English crown’ & some old guys in suits ‘over there’ someplace ‘secret’. No, it’s not those Israeli bags of krap right here in USA working tirelessly their entire lives 2 destroy the place. It’s the magical ‘regal clan’ someplace else ROFL!! =)) This is what happens when U marry a jew, Mr. Jones.

He’s right on Glass Steagall and he’s trying to take the side of the federal government, in an idealistic sense, and that, is to be, respected. LaRouche is a genius and a legend. One of the finest sons of America. He defended ex-slaves. He respects native Americans. He wants us all to live together, and, to be educated, in a classical sense. LaRouche is for productive, physical economy. He is true greatness. LaRouche And Alex Jones are what we are losing. People, we must stand now

bring back the glass act or kick there arse

larouche is a known right wing socialist. he was an infornment for the government, he worked with the reagon administration, he worked with the liberty lobby and the kkk. do i need say more?

No, because you sound wholly ignorant. Learn about the real world, and keep your mouth closed until then.

LaRouche is a communist and a fraudster.Hard to believe Alex has him on.

By the way, conspicuous by its omission is the Vatican, which is the oldest, wealthiest, and most corrupt institution on the planet (or in known civilization) but rarely hear reports on their dealings and influence in the world scene…… Holy Puppetmasters, Batman!

this guy is so boring my eyballs dried up and fell out.

Funny, I haven’t even watched the video yet, and already this was my first question, that’s because i know LaRouche. I just know he’s going to rattle on for 30 minutes saying nothing, but doing it an a creative way. However, i’ll give him a chance…one more time, and listen. LaRouche must have had a very troubled childhood, trying to fit in somewhere… he’s still at it.

How is this guy relevant to anything today? just curious….

We’ve heard of honor among the thieves – here we have an instance of honor among the political kooks. LR is an older and kookier Alex Jones, and Alex never met a conspiracy theory he didn’t like. Still he has his good points – he does a good job in interviewing Ron Paul, e.g.

his was one of the most powerful interviews i have seen so far. its both refreshing and liberating to hear someone talk about things as they really are.
after half a life time of disinformation spread by that sloppy whore the main stream media its refreshing to me to hear the truth.

make that man president!

People thought I was crazy supporting Lyndon LaRouche for president in the 1980′s, and they think I’m crazy for talking to his supporters now. Yeah, Mr. LaRouche is crazy – like a fox! Man, this guy is like a breath of fresh air!

Sorry Doc I’m going to have to disagree with you on this pick…
LaRouche is a a real good speaker but he’s also a hardcore Marxist / Socialist. He, like all the others in Washington would increase the size of government and use it to make us (in his own words) “truly equal”.
That is scary 1984 type thinking if I’ve ever heard it. He talks about free markets, because of our countries current predicament but Free Market Capitalism does not mean equality, just equal opportunity to succeed.

Okay.  Time for Point / Counterpoint.
Point: Lyndon LaRouche for Prezz
Ron Paul is a douche bag

Counterpoint:  As a matter of national survival we need an asymptotically-growing synergy around the idea of a post-Obama presidential troika with Rep. Dennis Kucinich in the role of president, Rep. Ron Paul as vice president and Mr. Lyndon LaRouche as senior advisor on science and economics. It is a perfect match on a multiplicity of political, meta-political and extra-political levels.
It is a solution that is obvious to me for the current political impasse but the solution needs to be obvious to millions of Americans beginning at the top with Kucinich, Paul and LaRouche. […]
The Presidency must be taken by 2012 or before. Mr. LaRouche believes that November 2012 will be too late. He is calling for immediate impeachment for violation of the War Powers Act or for removal from office under Section 4 of the 25th Amendment. Negotiations between the three principles towards the creation of a presidential troika must begin posthaste if they have not yet begun.

AND  Paul — Larouche — Kucinich.

Har de Har Har.  But you know…  Lyndon LaRouche, former Advisor to President Reagan Addresses the American Nation on 25^th June 2011 (26:21):

Fun fact for this person: Larouche hates Thomas Jefferson.  He warned Conservatives about Thomas Jefferson in his book “The Truth about Thomas Jefferson”.  “Sovereign Independent”  — AND so we have something to pile into these sentiments: 

Their decentralized model led to infiltration. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Left gout neo-Nazis to infiltrate the organization. It’s like the Tea Party, you and I saw Larouchies.  The EDL needed to disband and reform and keep stricter membership.

And for the purpose of  the Commenter for “Black News”

Anybody who has followed LaRouche over the years knows damn well that he is not a racist, in fact, he is the “Anti-Racist” Obama is controlled by White billionaires and he loves the Oh-so-white-WASP BITCH Queen of England. LaRouche is fighting the racist genocidal Prince Philip, consort to Obama’s beloved Queen Elizabeth-Obama is a pawn for these racist genocidalists, and so, apparently, are you!

Hey!  That item (see the Larouchies cursing King and see Dennis King recounting his experiences with Our Town here.) was was also picked up by “African Globe“.

“Irish Green Eyes.  Welcome to My World“.  (The neat thing about this story finally receiving some traction, limited though it is,  is that it puts a new photograph into the pool.  I was getting sick of the last one.)

This isn’t the only video out there receiving a smattering of comments.

We’re all going to burn in a fire ball on September 26th.
Luckily, I’m taking it pretty well.  You know, considering.
Comet Elenin is gonna kill us all, except for the billionaires who are already hiding out in secret caves in Colorado or Wyoming or somedamnplace.  LaRouche even made a YouTube about it.  I can’t put it on here because it has some dirty words on it but you can go see it in full color anti-scientific stereo insanity.
Now, I’m having trouble figuring all this out, but it has something to do with the Denver airport, seed storage in a secret very cold place, and some kind of big ole underground tunnel, but if we impeach Obama, all this will go away.  Click here, and check at the 4:05 mark.  That’s the part where Obama is determined to kill the entire human species.

I don’t know what made me laugh harder…the video featuring a “panel” of LaRouche, Santa Claus and Urkel, or the first YouTube Comment: “If you want there is a group forming in the Ozarks…”

And a bit more Chris Christie disruption item from mah29001:  Oh indeed, how typical is it that Lyndon LaRouche who states how we’re heading toward a Fascist like state does not mind his supporters were involved in trying to disrupt a Chris Christie event?
Strange those who sing the loudest on the coming of Fascism are the Fascists themselves.

Conyers and Lee are big-name Democrats, but I doubt they will be generally called mainstream within the Democratic Party. Conyers is the guy who held his own mock hearings asking to be called Chairman at them the last time the Dems were in the minority, and had lengthy ties with the LaRouchies until word spread widely (spoke at their fundraising dinner, held a Congressional hearing on a hospital where half of the invited speakers were connected to LaRouche, etc.). Lee is the only member of Congress to vote against war after 9/11. A Jared Polis, despite far lower name recognition, is a far more likely public face for the Democrats if they’re actually trying to get something passed.
Also Larouche hates marijuana.

Alliances abound:

Kentucky State Senator Perry Clark.  (admitting to demagouging on the EPA)
And here’s something else I didn’t know about Perry Clark until about 5 minutes ago when the Google Mechanism informed me, but I thought I should share it. In 2004, Perry Clark endorsed Lyndon LaRouche for President. And LaRouchites still promote Clark to this day (a “Long-standing LaRouche ally).

The case of Pena Esclusa has also encountered indifference among fellow countrymen. Pena Esclusa like Baduel is somehow controversial because in the past he had ties to Lyndon LaRouche. Pena Esclusa and LaRouche severed ties years ago. Now, all these past associations are absolutely unrelated to their convictions or indictments. Justice is a separate matter.

falsity of the feds’ lies about the Oklahoma City psyop than did Coop and his cagey CAJI-ites, although the Birchers, the Willis Carto Spotlighters, and the Larouchies were close (and characteristically uncooperative) rivals

Charlie Veitch just left the 9/11 Truth Movement, and is getting 9/11 Truth calls of being bought off by “THEM”:
Many,many people realized the 9/11 movement is a cult that is rotten with Jew haters,former Urantia Cult leaders,Scientologists,LaRouchies (just get a load of Alex today!) liars,opportunists and egomaniacs and have rethought their position.You illustrate expertly the paranoid style that dominates.
A guy changes his mind and right away he’s with the FBI.
How ironic when you are the schnook with the agenda.
“Police shades”?!? Goober,get off the train,it’s hurtling over the falls.

The Post Office Tour continues see here.

Went over to our little post office and there was a Lyndon LaRouche table on the sidewalk with a big DUMP OBAMA sign.
Oy, Lyndon LaRouche. He makes Ron Paul look normal. The economy is going to do in Obama, imho.
The LaRouchies are now on the Right. They went from Castroite to Constitutionalists.

And West Roxbury

The problem with matching funds.

or it might be Chris Christie’s budget cuts.  Either one doesn’t make all that much difference to the total effect.
Hitler has long turned into something of largely an item for farce, something that happens with time which has its good and bad points.  It is how the Larouchies can float the “Obama — Hitler” image (with countless precedents) with a mere ripple of attention, even while they whole-heartedly — and insanely — believe in their equivalence.  For every Henry Gasparin — with an understandable disgust for the equivalence — there’s the rest whos reaction is on par with the Saturday Night Live skit on “What if Superman had grown up in Germany?”  (Ironic, of sorts.)

Get into some specifics, and we may end up less inured, less de-sensitized to this insanity.  Here we see the Larouchies, and more specifically the New Jersey local and the Diane Sare for Congress campaign, moving the Crazy Dial Up to 11.

Christie townhall attracts LaRouchers, leaves via helicopter. Why run for president? Living it. Flash mobs started out as a fresh, fun  idea that sought to spread joy with their unexpected entertainment, but lefties are so totally ruining it with their lame copy-cat protests. According to New Jersey.com, the protesters were La Rouchies.  Fair Lawn police ejected from the building a small LaRouche group, including a woman who wants to run for Congress in the 5th District, while they were trying to sing their anthem. Protesters escorted out of Gov. Chris Christie’s town hall event are linked to congressional candidate Diane Sare and are supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche. They were removed today from the event after they refused to stop singing loudly about being sent to Auschwitz. It appears to be the first time people have been asked to leave by police at a Christie town hall.

Comment that is useful for added context.:  Fairlawn is a heavily Jewish town. Auschwitz references were not accidental. Judging from callers to Christie-friendly NJ 101.5 FM locals didn’t like those references at all.…

Sure, we can put it into “part of the spectacle”.  We can also play a game with them for Partisan Advantage and Hypocrisy. Witness…

I can’t hear what the mob is singing at all, but according to this Fox News report it was something involving Auschwitz? Really? So they’re comparing Christie to Hitler…again. Nice.
All the more reason to say this was a perfect, calm response to a dopey liberal stunt. Another win for Christie.

Meantime, Fox News reports it — “linked to Democratic candidate for Congress”.  Interestingly, when Bill O’Reilly wanted to slam Barney Frank at the time of Rachel Brown’s instigators, O’Reilly had to dove-tail back to his report and offered the caveat, “But she was an activist” with an agenda.  The main problem with these things, for a charge of a double standard is seen with this comment.

And funny how the media is very careful to identify the offenders as LaRouchies, a courtesy they didn’t extend to the Tea Party when those kooks showed up with the now famous “Obama with Hitler mustache” posters.
In the scheme of “Don’t Hate the Media, Be the Media“, I will point out that this particular slice of the meida — the Weasel Zipper blog–  failed to clearly identify the Larouchies as separate from the Unions.

In the category of inappropriate humor.:
Maybe they should have herded all the pro union people that were there, into another room, sealed it off, and turned the gas on. Wanna sing about Auschwitz now??? Jerks…

AND… I don’t know if this person will claim the Larouchies were trying to de-legitimize the tea party?

More evenly with this topic.:
Legitimate protesters with rational messages are cringing today, after learning that wackjob supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche were thrown out of Gov. Chris Christie’s 20th town hall forum of the year. Police bounced them from the jam-packed Fair Lawn Community Center on Wednesday after they refused to stop singing loudly about being sent to Auschwitz. We’ve noticed a recent uptick in the number of idiots using Nazism as a touch point to get their message across. That needs to stop.

Here’s the Larouche response, from Margarette:  What a bunch of fools all of you are! The singers were singing about how Christie is the same as Obama! Governor Christie, the fat shlubba, in a campaign ad before he ran for Gov, ENDORSED OBAMA’S GREEN ENERGY POLICY, and proposed windmills and solar panels for NJ! The folks who were singing at this town meeting are promoting NUCLEAR POWER-THEY ARE NOT LIBERALS!
Furthermore, what Obama, and Christie, and all the budget slashing Governors are doing, is absolutely NAZI! Try reading and studying history instead of listening to FOX or NPR or whatever crap is brainwashing you!

All right!  Fox News AND NPR or whatever crap!
Understand, this is how that site — of a mass of people cheering while they were being booted out the door — quite a number cheering falling in the 47 percent line of the approval / disapproval number — is being relayed to the larouche movement.
In line with Lyndon LaRouche’s latest political and economic forecast, the state of New Jersey has now entered into a new phase of mass-strike protest

Just not being reported on NPR and Fox News.
One thing they’re good thing this is good for, I suppose — is a discussion of Godwin’s Law.

The LaRouchies seem to see Hitler in everyone. Sometimes I suspect they’re projecting. Back to reality, this behavior by Obama does strike me as odd.[…]

I’m not a fan of LaRouche but, there is some truth to his position. Like Hitler, Obama is [etc]

“But I play one on tv”.

Another good thing the Larouchies are good for — Finding your Writing Voice!

Diana Shellenberger:  Figuring out what kind of writer you are is critical to discovering your true voice, the one that comes out naturally. I remember one of the first times that happened as an adult. I was in a magazine writing class where we were required to write three articles over the course of the semester, along with doing market research and writing cover letters to actual publications. I had written an article on Lyndon La Rouche—remember him? the tax-evading perennial presidential candidate? One of my classmates observed in the critique of my article that she could hear my voice—sarcastic and conversational. That meant I’d done my job. In that piece I had managed to break down the barrier between my speaking and thinking voice and my writing voice. I would encourage you to look for the same markers in your own writing. The more you bring yourself into your writing, the better it will be. Not your idealized self, but you as you are. I’m not so sure I want to own the sarcastic part of my voice, but it’s there, and it works, because it’s me.

[hm]

The Larouche organization is running six candidates for Congress for 2012.  This is up from, depending on how you count, the two or three candidates they ran in 2010.  There are Kesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, Summer Shields, Dave Christie, Diane Sare, and Bill Roberts.  Running for office with your name on the ballot, gives a candidate some minimal media attention.   As this Town Hall meeting exercise is a tactic for the organization, and as these six individuals have been moved front and center as the organization’s representatives at these townhall meetings, I imagine in the coming year, media outlets will find themselves with a few more moments like this.

More pointedly, in 2010 the two congressional campaigns gave the Larouchies two political debates.  Barney Frank stated about his debate with Rachel Brown that he never refuses a debate with anyone — a matter which caused some griping by his Republican general election foe for wanting to include minor party candidates — so it looks as though a Rachel Brown primary candidacy equals a Barney Frank — Rachel Brown debate.  It is not out of the realm of possibilities that Kesha Rogers could win her nomination again — the Democratic Party would not like to think about this district — which would mean another Public Broadcasting debate.

The debate moderators have a bit of a hard task with the Larouche candidates and what to do with them — you can more or less pick an item out at random from the Larouche org’s Collected Works and have something which is electorally disqualifying.  As it were, Rachel Brown and Kesha Rogers got out pretty darned easy in their debates, the debate moderators not really wanting to spend their time on irrelevant Larouche figures and tracking back to a sort of humoring of them, bemused eyebrow raising on how a quick relocation exercise to Mars will save humanity.

The Media of New Jersey in particular but the various other states at these moments, in debate circumstance or newspaper endorsement interview or the general campaign events — and the Democratic Party for the various counties’ candidate appearances (where Larouchies have been given a seat in the past — to mocking audiences, for instance, laughing at Rachel Brown while eating a dinner and waiting for Barney Frank) would do well to pose the question — “What, in particular, were you (or your fellow Larouchie candidate) comparing to Auschwitz, and would you like to back-track right now for the comparison?”
If they were real candidates, they would be asked that question.

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The World is Full of Anti-Larouche Trollers full of “30 Year Old Slanders”…

The problem with Raymond-the-rambler’s comments is that they are not genuine, but some kind of anti-LaRouche troller who skims the internet to post 30 year-old slanders as an “expert” comment-er. He clearly is behind the times. What would Ray-ramble say to the NY Times Joe Nocera who just wrote “The Banking Miracle” on Glass-Steagall? What would he say to the NJ AFL-CIO which just passed a resolution endorsing the same thing that Ms. Mallory was speaking to the council about? How about the 17 congresspeople who co-sponsored this legislation? Are they all kooks who were bamboozled by a loon?
Glass Steagall = Good.  Larouchies = Bad.  More can be seen in the comment that this was an answer to, (SIC):
Many people don’t know about this woman’s antics. She has been making accusations against all government agencies since she ran for Congress in 1994. I think the 4% of the vote she got then and the physical altercation over her protest of the Healthcare reform may speak volumes for her desire to create chaos, not solutions.
Local Lansdale Borough Government has about as much influence as the North Penn Student Council, but I am sure she would want their backing too. Build a small truth of having government bnacking.
As seen in their tactics, they are sending local supporters out to local meetings to get this in the news.
His supporters and organizations were the same who made alligations that the Queen and Britian control world finances, drugs. That the VT shooter was addicted to First person shooting games and even when they proved he played mostly non-violent games, there was no aknowledgement. They also pushed supporters in the mid 80’s to keep AIDS infected kids out of school pushing information that AIDS was passed by casual contact even after information about it’s real method of tranmittal was known.
Any more time to these people is only going to help spread disinformation and false data.

Though, the disinformation they spread is to their followers, and somehow dovetails back to the response to Raymond’s initial comment.:

Senior U.S. intelligence officials, along with leading figures within the Democratic Party, have warned that the Obama White House is in the process of launching a massive dirty operations campaign against Lyndon LaRouche and associates. […]
Leading Democratic Party figures explained this bizarre behavior from the standpoint that the Democrats fear that the demise of President Obama will bring Lyndon LaRouche to the fore as the only serious political leader who dared speak the truth about Obama and his British controllers. So, in effect, Reid, Boxer and Pelosi fell on the sword, in defending the President’s indefensible behavior on the Libya war, out of fear of LaRouche’s emergence as a folk hero and a leader of a movement for a revolutionary change in U.S. policy—beginning with the passage of the Glass-Steagall restoration, now pending before the House in H.R. 1489. This act of near political suicide on the part of Reid, Boxer and Pelosi was one of the first public signals that the White House has launched illegal operations against the LaRouche organization.

To be sure, here’s how one Larouche supporter sees things coming down the pike.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich has a democratic transitional view of the nation. Political maverick Lyndon LaRouche has an oligarchical present view of the nation. Rep. Ron Paul has a republican future view of the nation. The three together are emerging as a potential potent ruling American presidential troika in a post-Obama interlude leading up to the federal elections of 2012.
Mr. Kucinich fills the role of President, Mr. Paul the role of Vice-President and Mr. LaRouche the role of senior economic advisor to the Presidency. The morality and ethics of Representatives Kucinich and Paul are beyond reproach. LaRouche’s scientifically-grounded creative ideology perfectly complements Kucinich’s high moral ground and Paul’s high ethical standards.

One reason, dear Raymond, for the putting about for Glass Steagall Resolutions at any place they find — in addition to suggesting an “in” with the AFL-CIO they’re about to embarrass at a town hall, is to give an answer for this situation.

Who the heck is he? never heard of him before, yet he has been a politician for well over 30 years. I got in a small debate with some LaRouche supporters trying to raise money in front of the courthouse on will clayton last night.
according to them, Obama is controlled by the queen of england?[…]
it seems to me that they really don’t want to change or accomplish anything other than you donate to his campign fund. I have asked them what bills I need to call my reps and ask them to vote for, and if they had a petition to sign, and nothing, but they were very adiment that I “pledge” some money to dethrone obama.
thought LaRouche always ran for the communist party, let me google that. […]
sounds like another life long politician to me.
While keeping a hand in many a pot…  Communist and Libertarian!
He is the founder of the “libertarian party” and is pretty much considered a kook. I believe he actually ran for president.
AND… er… via Harley Schlanger’s frequent appearances with Dr. Deagle… The Jehovah’s Witness Party!

The “Ready for Hitler Coup” is getting play at Godlike Productions and “Patriot Action Network.” — Not yet Iranian Press TV, but it’s floating there against the backdrop.

Also amongst Texas secessionists. And there’s that 144,000 figure again.

Since it is inevitable that the current U.S. President Barack Obama has no chance of being re-elected under what might be called a “democratic election-process,” and since President Obama is essentially a puppet of the British monarchy, bought and paid for in his original election as U.S. President, that fact, and relevant other evidence signifies that Obama could be made President again only by the same kind of proceeding which brought Adolf Hitler into the successive steps of his appointment by the order of the combined agency of the Bank of England and the support of Prescott Bush’s actions on behalf of the Bank of England”s Hjalmar Schacht and and Brown Brothers Harriman.
Given the facts of the crisis about to hit with great force with the first ten days following the close of the U.S. Congress’s accounting year, and in light of the attempt to enforce the continued “bail out,” there can be no possibility that the forces controlling British puppet Barack Obama’s career do not fully intend to pull off a coup d’etat comparable to that of Adolf Hitler.
There is only one remedy for both the United States and the Trans-Atlantic community of nations: the immediate re-enactment of the 1933 Glass-Steagall law.

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Encyclopedia of American Loons #228
Diagnosis: Schizophrenic, megalomaniac raving lunatic who seems to wish to establish a socially conservative, fiscally socialist political system based on cult-like worship of the strong man (himself). That political system has been tried before. Fortunately LaRouche doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of implementing it in the US, despite the fact that he has a frighteningly large number of followers.
Megalomaniac, yes.  Schizophrenic, no.  The rest — yes.
It is interesting, in light of the “Strong Man (himself) argument, that one thing that has the “Larouche Cryonics Movement” wavering away from the new man — — is the latter’s positive word for Mao.

Okay.

A rule I have had, from the start of his presidential campaign on into his presidency, with regards to caricature and Obama: just do us all a favor and stay away from the Primates.  Yes, there is a double standard that exists with Obama and the 42 Presidents who preceded him, but it is one with a historic reason for existing, and the various people in the recurring “Obama — Monkey” scandals know full well or should know full well the reason.

Still, I have seen in the recurring mini-controversies some room to parse meanings, which is to say to explain why in some instances the “just a caricature like done with Bush” doesn’t even compute.  The image sent out by an elected member of the central committee of the Republican Party of Orange County — which puts Obama’s ancestors as two monkeys — falls into this category.  The comment in her apology, “the thought never entered my mind until one or two other people [Scott Baugh, Orange County GOP boss, and this writer] tried to make this about race” is a little hard to fathom.

I would be inclined to argue that the Obama Joker image is not racist, except that the creation is stupid enough and not deserving of the attention necessary to argue the point.(*1)

One thing we can say about the elected Orange County Republican representative is she did have to give an account for her action — she was, perhaps feebly, “held to account”.

Mockingly, my thought after watching these 45 seconds, was “Well, that’s the end of that guy’s career in electoral politics.”  But of course, the Larouche Org does not function like a regular political organization.  They’ve a world of fantasists (*2), on the cusp of power against a sea of Historic Disintegration.  They’re a marketing scam operating off of political paranoia.  They play the politics of pissing into a pool, in the direction of a mass of piss, and pointing to the mass of piss and proudly beating their chest proclaiming — “See!  We did that!”  (For instance on that last one:)

Sarah Palin stole it from LaRouche.
They will never admit it.
They picked it up because I spammed it all over the Sarah Palin resigns video on youtube.
They are so easy to manipulate.(*3)

The comment from the diatribe produced there that I commented on at the time, on this blog, was In response to Obama’s insistence that he will not back down, LaRouche said: “Obama should back down or he might be hung.(*4) (Move forward on that blog post for an LPAC description of a Holocaust Survivor.)

These 45 seconds seem a non sequitur.   The awkward jab dangles there, at the end.  We have Sky Shields finish up his “Scientific Presentation”.  We have a couple of seconds of awkward silence, before the old cult leader makes his little joke — proudly –  “That was, Where does a chimpanzee go to vote in the US election?”  John Hoefel  — who it falls on to provide the punchline for the joke everyone is nervously laughing at –  lest that task land with Sky Shields: “I think at the White House.”  Forced Laughter follows.  Awkward silence.  They wrap up — “Anything else, Lyn?”  And it all ends badly from there.

The Larouche organization is running six candidates for Congress for 2012.  This is up from, depending on how you count, the two or three candidates they ran in 2010.  There are Kesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, Summer Shields, Dave Christie, Diane Sare, and Bill Roberts.  Running for office with your name on the ballot, gives a candidate some minimal media attention.  Rachel Brown received an amused amount of coverage when Barney Frank shot back at her at a Townhall meeting.  To a lesser extent, Diane Sare received some when New Jersey’s governor Chris Christie used her questioning to similar effect.  As this is a tactic for the organization, and as these six individuals have been moved front and center as the organization’s representatives at these townhall meetings, I imagine in the coming year, media outlets will find themselves with a few more moments like this.

More pointedly, in 2010 the two congressional campaigns gave the Larouchies two political debates.  Barney Frank stated about his debate with Rachel Brown that he never refuses a debate with anyone — a matter which caused some griping by his Republican general election foe for wanting to include minor party candidates — so it looks as though a Rachel Brown primary candidacy equals a Barney Frank — Rachel Brown debate.  It is not out of the realm of possibilities that Kesha Rogers could win her nomination again — the Democratic Party would not like to think about this district — which would mean another Public Broadcasting debate.

Of course, nobody asked the candidates for elected office about their organization’s previous Obama — Monkey scandal, wherein Larouche came out against miscegenation (in the parsing of meanings this falls in the category of “can’t even bother with the fig-leaf of caricature)– in 2010.  The debate moderators have a bit of a hard task with the Larouche candidates and what to do with them — you can more or less pick an item out at random from the Larouche org’s Collected Works and have something which is electorally disqualifying.  As it were, Rachel Brown and Kesha Rogers got out pretty darned easy in their debates, the debate moderators not really wanting to spend their time on irrelevant Larouche figures and tracking back to a sort of humoring of them, bemused eyebrow raising on how a quick relocation exercise to Mars will save humanity.(*5)

One more problem with the 2008 Monkey comments is the sourcing and origins.  They come from the org’s Internal Daily Briefings.  The Larouche wikipedia team stone-facedly shoved it aside for that reason.  But, when approaching the 2012 campaigns, the latest exercise in Racist awkwardness was delivered for public consumption.  A year is a long time before anything comes up where a journalist or moderator is in the definite position of having a sit – all, and I imagine it may be too much to ask for someone to actually “use the clip” for candidate reaction — but understand, if they were normal candidates running seriously for office they would be asked to respond to this clip.

Oh, Here’s Dennis King on this, by the way.

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(*1) A little … exuberant, I suppose.  Does it look as though Congress and the American President are a little too zealous about protecting Corporate Fascism and the wars that feed it?
According to Lyndon LaRouche of Larouchepac:
FDR & JFK’s policies were those that would prevent corporate fascism and protect the creativity as well as the right to flourish for any group of people in any given country by sovereignty rights by instituting such laws as Glass Steagal. The Patriot Act is only a veiled arm of fascism,designed to take down any that defend their rights by the constitution.LaRouche and his 40 years in Economic History under FDR & JFK Policies declare the easiest way to disarm & de-fund Corporate Fascism is to institute Glass Steagal. To do so, all the other arms of fascism will drop like a house of cards that it really is. Iceland,Ireland ,Spain & Greece seem to get the message.
Will the People of the Constitution take up their legacy???   It is Time to Lead the World into the greatest Leap of Human Rights & Progress that has ever been seen!!!
Actually Larouche hates FDR and JFK.  I read it in his Walter Lippmann book.

Exuberant?  Hey! i got a flood of pro-nuke folx commenting on the blog post.  I heard about the miracle of Thorium reactors [Thorium reactor proponents are a bit like Lyndon Larouche disciples – what they lack in logic they make up for in enthusiasm] about how i was a bad dad and on and on.  I blasted much of it.  It is my blog, i control the content.  Then i got a whole slew of “freedom of speech” objections.  People were upset that i had erased their comments, i blasted most of these comments as well.

To explain why any iteration of Glass Steagal passed won’t be good enough.:  Before Dave gets excited and goes all “Lyndon Larouche” on his readers about the return of Glass-Steagall courtesy of the U.K.’s Exchequer, there’s a few things you may want to consider.  To start with, growing up Dave shared a bedroom with his brother and this is where he learned one of the first lessons about power, control and the partitioning of assets and access.

Put up on “Impeach Obama” facebook page.  Lyndon LaRouche today said that the bipartisan Congressional revolt against President Barack Obama’s flagrant violation of the U.S. Constitution and the War Powers Act is just like the early moments of the Watergating of President Richard Nixon. “It is just the beginning, but the parallels to Watergate… Of course, “Watergate” is a verb meaning Presidents are set up for a fall because of the nefarious goals of — for instance in Nixon’s case, the Drug Dealers who wanted to squash Nixon’s “War on Drugs” and bring about a Dark Ages through Beatles music and through installation of Nelson Rockefellar as President.  I read about that in Dope, Inc.

Also, Larouche doesn’t go far enough.  Or maybe failed to act in time.   In  response to the US food shortages, high costs of food and fuel, Lyndon  La Rouche is calling for emergency food-price controls claiming that the  “US and  the world is being driven into hyperinflation…”  As far as  I’m concerned,  this is too little, too late.  A call for price controls  will only make the  situation much, much worse.  Instead, I propose the  immediate education of the  entire population in soil management,  sustainable living technologies, and  self-reliant living.  Perhaps,  PERHAPS, in a generation, our children may have  the ability to feed  themselves to a certain extent and won’t have to rely upon  a failing  political and economic system that may not make it one more  generation  out.

(*2)  Further seen, and I think more directly round straight back to the Larouchies, when Glenn Beck ran a special on George Soros.  Some people noticed.
Why do more people trust FOX news to be accurate and honest over all the other Soros influenced sources?
Beck’s source for his Soros piece was LYNDON LAROUCHE!!!
Don’t try to pretend Fox TV is any kind of serious news source.

The questioner there does the trick further by suggesting Fox News is “Soros influenced”, which I suppose is just as well.  Everyone makes use of a cropped and mis-directed 60 Minutes interview.

(*3) A parallel example can be found in this response from a Larouchie to a Pleasanton complaint on the Obama — Hitler image propped on a neighbor’s lawn.  The Larouchie has this mindset:  Looks like you’re out of your comfort zone; breaking laws to quash freedom of speech?  LaRouche agrees with you that America is headed towards Fascism. He believes it is already here and supported by Soros (considered by LaRouche to be a Synarchist, you know, the shadow government we’re all fighting against). That’s why LaRouche use the Obama-as-Hitler image. Now that he’s got your attention with that image, perhaps you’d like his politics. He wrote a book on Marxist political economy.
Somehow a person is supposed to be “shocked” by the image and then move from there to a “rational look at the facts” which ends with supporting their view point.  I will give them that it works on … just enough… people off of the edges to make it a going concern 50 years.

Some more comedy from this series of exchanges.:
“Civil Disobedience”:  Note, too, that Stacey, after providing her juvenile comment about LaRouche and Soros being equivalent actors in some kind of smackdown — such is Stacey’s moral sensibility I guess — fails to address Night Owl’s pointed question: What is it in her estimation that puts Lyndon LaRouche and George Soros on the same moral level? I imagine she’s still scouring wikipedia entries in hopes of finding something Nazi-like that Soros has done.

And This seems an odd forum to discuss things.
Isn’t part of the answer, though, within:

Talking of which, can anyone explain to me why “Koch” seems to have become synonymous with “antichrist” for the leftish side of the spectrum? Barely a day passes between inbox fillers about the latest Koch Nefariousness or Turpitude. It’s fracking tiresome. Are Lyndon LaRouche and Cigarette-smoking man no longer hip enough?.

(*4) To be fair, in the fantasist mind of Larouche, Obama is always on the edge here — ready to be put out once his controllers deem his use done.  Should someone like the schizophrenic man who shot at Representative Giffords, it will be blamed on an operation in place from Tavistock — the ultimate blamers somewhere in the imaginations of Daniel Brandt to shuffle whatever Ross Perot and Pat Robertson have on this.

They have “played both sides against the middle”, as with this slogan from that rosy period where the Larouchies were “in talks with the Obama Administration” and touting the “Institution of the Presidency” — and the slogan they circulated when defending a corrupt black Boston political figure at a city council meeting.

(*5) This is a standard thought that must run through the debate moderators — “Aren’t they a relic from the 1980s?” — Lyndon LaRouche? You date yourself, my dear. P.S. HoR, I apologise for my initial comments and did not mean to offend that “you date yourself (my dear).” I was a fan of Perry but have done my research. Much to my dismay,

OR:  That Lyndon LaRouche guy is funny as hell. “What caused all the problems in India, Africa, the US all over the world… The British Empire this guy is about 100 years late. How you going to blame the ills going on in any nation today .

AND THEN AGAIN:  from 2009:  LaRouche supporters continue to alienate both the left and the right. That is one thing that brings the Democrats and the Republicans together, their hatred for the LaRouchers.
The definition of madness is doing the same thing repeatedly while expecting different results.
After over 20 years of this completely idiotic Post Office campaign strategy, one would think they would finally get it. But they don’t, and that is why The LaRouchers are all quite insane.

Dateline Seattle.  The Lydon LaRouche movement has a display outside the Greenwood U.S. Post Office today.

Go peddle them to Lydon LaRouche, we’re not interested. boxofteabags – June 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am.

Thank god the Jews have the own country, they have a place to go when they get blamed for this thing again.
Herman Cain warned me about the false science of Chinese communists and radical Norwegian socialists­. Thank you godfather, I love the smell of ignorance in the morning.
Herman Cain must be a follower of Lyndon LaRouche.

You’re an idiot. Ron Paul was clearly the winner.
On what criteria: he was inarticulate, waffling and didn’t answer any question in a comprehensible manner. None of the “real” snap polls thought he won anything. You remind me of the blind cult-like LaRouchies or perhaps the Moonies. On what basis do you make that outrageous assertion.

Odd  that Lyndon LaRouche hasn’t declared. He seems like a perfect  Tea Party candidate.

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Larouche In Conversation to the “Great Minds” of The Day, as he was in conversation with “Great Minds” in Grade School after everyone bullied him (I read that in his autobiography):.

Here’s a piece by Makow this morning that I think has merit. [+] Makow points to the Enlightenment as a counter-action against the Renaisance like Larouche does but he refuses to see FDR in the same light as Larouche, perpetrating the myth that FDR let Pearl Harbor happen. Still, Makow has merit and is consistent with Larouche on a number of points using a slightly different semantic frame than Larouche. Makow doesn’t know about Witzsche’s solutions however and in fact, Makow doesn’t really have any solutions. He does advocate resistance however in this article.

AND… — “Brother Nathaniel”.  “Tracing America’s Enslavement to Jewish Bankers”. Although now misunderstood by economists such as Lyndon LaRouche and associates, for the greater good of America, President Jackson sent federal troops into the states who refused, (albeit indirectly), to pay off the debt to Jewish bankers, forcing those states to collect taxes. View Entire Story Here , Here , Here & Here . For seventy-seven years, although argued that Jewish financing of America’s railroads and gold trafficking kept the nation under Jewry’s thrall, America was no longer under the heel of Jewish bankers. Andrew Jackson, remarkably…federal force notwithstanding…paid off the debt.

Two different things.  You see what we have is a false debate
Bankster Keyneisan Healthcare
Bankster Austrian Healthcare
What we had up to Obamacare was neither, Obamacare decidely put it into Bankster Keynesian Healthcare
You want a clearer picture here’s two things about Austrian school (no need to debunk keyneisan since we all know that here)
To reference the fascist LaRouche is enough in and of itself to discredit you, but you’re at least honest enough to admit the source of your ideas, so I’ll give you that much.

The Bilderberg Group has been denounced as a conspiracy from left and right, from everyone from crackpots like Alex Jones, Lyndon LaRouche, Phyllis Schlafly to Jesse Ventura (see video above) and Fidel Castro, who described “sinister cliques and the Bilderberg lobbyists” manipulating the public “to install a world government that knows no borders and is not accountable to anyone but its own self” in an article he wrote for Granma .

If you say so.  (Preparing a people for the savior’s soon return… Wait.  Who’s he talking about here?)

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An Update:

Occurring after this entry was posted, an anonymous user on wikipedia removed a mass of material at the Larouche wikipedia page from his autobiography “of sorts” — on “making Kant and Descartes and Leibnz his peers” and being not an “ugly duckling” but a “nasty duckling”.  I leave it to you to determine if there was a connection between the two events, and at any rate the material has been restored by Will Beback.

Other wikipedia items: Est 300 wisely moved some material to the Amelia Robinson article, Waalkes moved it back, seeking a counter to views expressed by “Bakker” and a Larouche validator.  To answer Javen’s question about the “HK Sock Puppet Menace” posed in Larouche Movement: Yes.  A comedic moment is seen at the Views page with Cla68’s question, by way of sidelining King and Berlet, “Who is the biggest expert on Larouche’s philosophy than Larouche himself?”.  (Curiously mixed in this is an argument that too much weight is given to his views on the Queen.)  And, Sheldon Droden’s attention (by way of a Commentary piece about the Air America founder’s perchance with “Prescott Bush founded the Nazis”) and a Village Voice article were brought to bear to validate EIR.

Hockey Conspiracy.  The conspiracies are coming thick and fast here in North America. First Chuck Blazer, Lyndon Larouche and the Knights of Malta have conspired to make FIFA’s corrupt, bribe-taking members to look bad. But more importantly Nike has forced CONCACAF to again stage a farce of a cup competition in order to sell Mexico shirts and force American soccer consumers to feign interest in a seemingly endless clash of the minnows.

Cincinnati Bengals Conspiracy:  ! (Linden LaRouche would be proud!) (wikipedia link)

British Monarchy Cannibalism:  Oh shit, Oh Shit, OH SHIT! PLEASE don’t tell the LaRouchies about this!

This is 21st century Britain. Not LaRouche Planet.

NOW THAT’S POETRY.

“Dark Metal” fans discuss Nazism:  In the western world, nowadays, a threat to what? I don’t think bands singing about SS occult shit, and keeping their blood pure etc. etc. is really a “threat.” Ideology limited to 10 copies, watch out!
Precisely. Stalinists or LaRouchies are regarded as merely cranks, but ‘fascists’ are somehow a threat.

“Primary Report”:  Announced Candidates:  Barack Obama, Randall Terry.  Possible Candidates:  Mike Gravel, Jim Hightower, Lyndon Larouche.  (We’ll see.)

Here are my Top 5 Dangerously Crazy Cults:
2. LaRouche (please don’t unleash your Secret Service on me)
5. AlexJones/Zeitgeist/911truthers (please don’t make me think I know more than 99% of the worlds population based on watching Youtube videos containing 0% facts.)
speaking of which — 9/11 Truth crap.

Most tea party protests against health care reform feature a standard cast of characters. Revolution-era patriots in greatcoats and tricorne hats; LaRouchies handing out pictures of Obama with a Hitler mustache; the people with the giant fetus signs; and some guy dressed as an actual tea bag. Then, there are the doctors.

When I was active in the Libertarian Party I always winced when someone claimed Larouche was a Libertarian, more because of his disagreeable supporters than his very non-libertarian philosophy. Usually no amount of denial could convince these know-it-alls there was no Larouche/Libertarian connection. (It must have been an aliterative association: Roger Rabit Republican, Donald Duck Democrat, Lyndon Larouche Libertarian. In fact he always ran as a Democrat.)

And no, Tony Dancer, there is no equivalence between Abbott’s endorsement of the CEC, La Rouchies, etc, this week and your evidenceless assertion of “the greens burning an effigy of Howard while chanting ‘die Howard die’”. Which Greens exactly?

The fact that Sarah Palin isn’t viewed and treated as some sort of lobotomized Lyndon LaRouche says that Americans are shallow because they show the MSM that this is what they want to see, what they call “news” and therefore whatthe ADVERTISERS wang.

Compared with Ron Paul — who is referenced as being on a radio show with photograph-cited White Supremacist teeny-bopper singers Prussian Blue.

Ron Paul as Lyndon LaRouche – No, I’m not saying that Ron Paul is anything like Lyndon LaRouche in his ideas or ideology. What I am saying is that he won’t get the nomination, but has an incredibly strong, if tiny, base of support.

did Paul inherit the Larouchies?

Fight between Ron Paul supporters and Ron Paul critic over Larouche comparison.

Oh yes, totally terrified of Palin. As soon as President LaRouche and President Ron Paul are done, there won’t be anybody to stand in Palin’s way.

I liked how he said something that happened was just like an historical event, and then he describes something that isn’t at all like what happened. But my favourite part is where he doesn’t shake his head and say ‘oh wait a sec, that’s not at all what happened’ but rather gets all serious looking and says ‘oh this is serious!’.

Commenting on recent Rand Paul comments:  Peoples concerns over religious zealots needlessly trying to murder U.S. citizens as they travel or do business are understandable. The Kentucky Senator was no doubt attempting to speak to those concerns. Having heard other groups such as La Rouche supporters, Communists, Racial separatists, Militia, and Farrakhan Supporters utter notions of overthrow is sickeningly disturbing. Often leading to questions as to why they should be allowed to enjoy the benefits of the U.S. while plotting and delighting in its potential downfall. This is especially true for radical Islamisits, who take cowardly cover behind the right of free speech to forward their repulsive ideas. In their own countries, they would likely be jailed tortured, and eventually executed.

David Lindsey, sometimes Larouche sympathizer:
Whereas any belief in “al-Qaeda”, or in any conceivable connection between the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the Shia-persecuting “Taliban”, or in “the global terrorist network”, or in “Taliban” distinct from the Pashtun as a whole, or in any connection between Afghanistan and 9/11, or in any connection between Iraq and 9/11, or in WMD in Iraq, or in such WMD as a threat to any Western country even if they had existed, or in an Iranian nuclear weapons programme, or in such a programme as a threat to any Western country even if it existed, has always put those who held it on exactly the same level as birthers, or as truthers, or as those who liken Obama to Hitler, or as those who likened Bush to Hitler, and as the followers of Lyndon LaRouche.
All exactly as sane as belief in the Book of Mormon, complete with its quotations from Shakespeare because Joseph Smith thought that they were from the Bible. But all an awful lot more dangerous in practice.

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THE POST OFFICE TOUR UPDATES!!!

Dateline Frederick, Maryland:  A representative of the LaRouche Political Action Committee waited through long discussions of city business June 2 to request support for a national banking resolution being considered by Congress.
If House Resolution 1489 is not passed by July 4, it will lead to another financial bailout and “a general breakdown crisis of most of the trans-Atlantic region of nations,” former presidential candidate Lyndon H. LaRouche said in a May 26 speech archived on his website,
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, R-6th, is one of the co-sponsors of the resolution, which is sponsored by Ohio Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-9th. The resolution is called the Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011.
Aldermen did not take any action.

Dateline Santa Rosa, California:   The phone number the pair gave out was for a campaign by former LaRouche PAC organizer Summer Shields to unseat and replace Nancy Pelosi.
The women outside the P.O. had lots of literature displayed. Did I care to take along some to read?
Thanks anyway. If a campaign stoops to labeling its adversaries as Hitler, I already know all I care to know about it.

Dateline Maryland: So I was driving on the highway the other day, and some guy hands me some pamphlets and starts going on about gas prices and blah blah blah. I didn’t have time to really go over them because the light turned green, but they looked like some sort of Tea Party, anti-Big Government, lower gasoline taxes thing, and so I was like, “Sounds like my kind of thing,” and took it.
It ended up being a pamphlet from the LaRouche political action committee, which I had never heard of. But as soon as I read the first couple of lines, I ripped the papers up and threw them away.
The reason was that they started the article off, and appeared to continue with, the declaration that if their bills were not passed, humanity would be doomed. And I’m paraphrasing the words, but the feelings are not in any way exaggerated; this pamphlet would have had me believe that, if I did not join their cause and get this pushed through Congress, the human race would not survive.
Even though I may have agreed with these people’s political ideals, I absolutely will not put up with that kind of manipulation and demonization of the other side..

Dateline Marblehead:  It was a relief to see that the matter of the LaRouche people setting up at Marblehead’s post office had finally been addressed properly.
What I do not understand is why it took their second attempt to set up before this situation was dealt with responsibly by the Marblehead police or the Postal Service. The number of complaints that both these groups dealt with on the first occasion about two weeks ago should have been enough to prevent this from happening again.

Dateline Massachusetts:  The louche douche Lyndon LaRouche has young people circulating petitions at the Massachusetts Democratic Party’s annual convention.  The first is a call for restoration of Glass-Steagall – not such a bad idea, actually.  But it’s a lead-in for their call to remove President Obama from office, on the grounds that he’s “the same as George W. Bush.”
Uh, no.
These are the same weirdos who held signs in 2008 portraying Obama as Hitler.  Credible !

Dateline Michigan.  Fowlerville police asked Redford resident Nick Walsh to take down signs carrying the message “Dump Obama” during the funeral procession for former Fowlerville firefighter Alan Hale Tuesday.[…]
“We just asked him to take the signs down out of courtesy for the family, and he did,” Fowlerville Police Chief Tom Couling said. “There was no problem.”
Walsh confirmed what police asked him to do and he obliged. He was not asked to leave
the site, nor was he asked to pack up his literature, Couling said. […]
The LaRouche Political Action Committee is named after American political activist Lyndon LaRouche Jr., who unsuccessfully ran for president on eight consecutive occasions from 1976 to 2004. The goal of the group is to save the country’s economy, Walsh said.

Dateline Salem:  Members of Lyndon LaRouche’s political organization were back at the post office, according to the police report at 10:41 a.m., setting up a table and “taking up customer spots.” At least one person complained over their political posters — in the past they’ve depicted President Obama as Hitler. A caller complained “the situation … is escalating. … If they stay, someone will get hurt.” An official wondered if “they are trying to bait him into violating their rights.” The Postal Inspector Service confirmed to police that protesters are not allowed on federal property, which goes right to the street. Moreover, police told the LaRouche contingent they were not allowed to set up a protest across the street. “After a short discussion, the protesters decided to leave,” according to the log.

Datelinie Medford.  Therese Mallory of Landsdowne, Pa, carries a placard that reads: Dump Obama, Use the 25th Amendment” from her car to a stand outside the Medford Post Office this morning along Route 541 in Medford. Mallory and her husband Don are protesting President Barack Obama, and the bail out of Wall Street and London. They are part of the LaRouche Polictical Action Committee.

Dateline  Comédie du Livre, France’s second-largest book fair…
One bunch of very clean-cut revolutionaries set up a stand with a French-English sign, and I suspect they were LaRouchies, since they seem to be everywhere, ranting incoherently.

Pamphlet handed outside a post office. Read Up on Wikipedia.

Dateline Stockholm, LarouchePunkSE:  This week in Stockholm, Johan Rockström and his eco-fascist accomplices tried to ram through a new policy of global governance toward mass genocide. What failed in Copenhagen would now be done behind locked doors, without any open debate.
Luckily, this fraud was exposed by the LaRouche movement’s political organizers, who intervened outside the event.

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How History Will Remember —

That which he believes.

Representative William Dannemeyer backed anything antigay, including the ban in HIV-positive immigrants and Lyndon LaRouche’s Proposition 64 in 1986 to quarantine people with HIV/AIDS. In 1989, his book Shadow in the Land: Homosexuality in America was distributed by a slew of antigay organizations, including the Traditional Values Coalition, which also distributed the antigay video from which this excerpt is taken:.

OR MAYBE??? Saner heads contingency overcome currently if you have been to tarry 45 yrs drop of a U.S. economy. Since 1966, American Economist Lyndon LaRouche has been fighting for a lapse to American methods of domestic economy. Unfortunately a Austrian propagandize of mercantile liberalism has filtered down as well as depraved a suspicion processes of many. It as well was a product of Britain. Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations as well as Moral Sentiments were used to convince most to welcome British Liberalism aka FREE TRADE!!

… Just toss it in the meelee with infowars for Rothschild research citations.
… And again.  Try the Schiller institute next – they’ve actually got people inside the admistrations they criticize.
Read it at the lpac sites:  See here:   In a discussion with leading associates yesterday, Lyndon LaRouche laid out an urgent timetable for the unique action which must be taken in order to save the world economy from plunging into a New Dark Age, and removing President Obama from office: ramming Glass-Steagall legislation through the U.S. Congress. There’s no room for “maybe” under the current circumstances of increasingly violent weather, and financial-economic breakdown, LaRouche argued. We have to get this done now.

A LOOK AT THE FAULTINESS OF THE “LAROUCHE WAS RIGHT” CANARD:

Watching this video i realize that this has been going on for so long that out of 300mil americans only about 1mil of us even know whats really happening in this country.This video is so old but it seems as if what hes saying is exactly whats happening today.The plans he mentions for depopulation is precisely whats happening now.Think about what he said about mexico.I can feel it it my soul that martial law will be declared shortly after economic turmoil. FEMA camps are ready here in GA

Mr. LaRouch has a very great respect for his own opinion but I am uncertain if it is a deserved respect. Carter was elected. How did we avoid thermonuclear war?

Ok so he was wrong in 1976 and I love this guy. He was saying the same thing about the economy too but the Reagan fell in line after they tried killing him and bandaged the economy with war and drugs. Maybe he’s right this time because in the 70s there was no insane credit and a ridiculously uneducated population there way we have now.
Why should I believe him this time about WWIII?

(Any reaction to Imperialism:  The Final Stage of Bolshevism?)

THE MASSES SPEAK THROUGH YOUTUBE: 
Ebdan88 says on June 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 am :
I really had Hope for Lyndon LaRouche. I thougt that he was a reall man who was in the good side, not the EVIL side!!? Now more and more i am hearing he is a Globalist. Just listen to his Speech!!? He talks about dumping Obama and having a Global Economi!!??? isnt that The Globalists want!!?? Oh boy they are EVIL Clever, maybe that is why they have the power for so long time …!!?
noodoo19 says on June 2nd, 2011 at 6:32 am :
Lyndon LaRouche seems like a sweet man with honourable intentions, and goodness knows we need someone to lead us out of the veritable abyss we are sinking more and more deeply into, but he is not very eloquent. it might be the reason that his ideology has not “taken” after such a long period of trying. somethimes the visionary needs to acknowledge his weaknesses, and find the right people to fill certain roles in order to see that vision through to success. just a thought.
Sixalienasa says on June 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 am :
I am afraid that Mr La rouche sounds like a Recording Contract. Rambling. Boring. Confusing.
I am a little too old to be President of the United States, but if the people want me then I am ready.

PETITION!!!

Answer to lpac stuff on ecoli scare:
Put away the tin foil hat. The reason is that manure from cows treated with super antibiotics has been used to fertilize bean seeds. Just a few days before the bean sprouts were harvested.
No conspiracy, unless the cows did it on purpose 🙂

Obama claims that we can’t forecast natural disasters, but LaRouche precisely forecast the natural disaster of Obama and his policies in April of 2009. The disaster that would result from failing to remove this President

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WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

Matthew Benzor talks about Ex Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburton.  And the “Most far reaching operation into a U.S. citizen”.  Can’t call this self- so much as other-directed.
Interesting commenter, he.

@roylee13 Engdahl does not want to mention the British Empire. Take a look at what Lyndon LaRouche has to say. Reply. berlinbueso says: June 8, 2011 at 12:56 pm. This guy is a sell-out. He used to work with LaRouche, then went off to

“Screw Loose Change”:  Engdahl is a former Lyndon LaRouche disciple. — and questions.

How much crazier do you have to get in order to abandon Lyndon LaRouche?
suspect that LaRouche abandoned him, just as he dumped Webster Tarpley. LaRouche famously purged his group of most of the baby boomers in the 1990s, opting to go for a new generation of rubes.

Mystery Solved on William Engdahl, via Wikipedia…
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Speaking from the vantage point of Lord Palmerston’s British Empire circa 1850, Schiller Institute U.S. President Webster Tarpley chaired the panel on “Lord Palmerston’s Multicultural Zoo” at the Schiller Institute’s conference on Feb. 20
Tarpley served as tour guide through the centuries, and as the “choral” backdrop to the historical drama, introducing each of the seven speakers in turn and concluding the panel. What follows is Tarpley’s introduction. Subtitles have been added.

This interview with Tom Weiss is 95 percent useless.  But I guess you should shift to find the 5 percent useful.

These are the people to turn to for studies on the Authoritarian Personality?
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Dope Inc in “We Are Change Oklahoma” website.

Tarpley is Lyndon LaRouche’s mouthpiece…
I don’t agree with Tarpley’s socialistic spin on things (if he had his way, we’d all be collectivized workers, toiling for the state, in some August Comte wet dream), but I don’t think he can be equated with LaRouche.
Like Tarpley, LaRouche tells you a lot of truth on the anglo-euro establishment, but then he does ‘pragmatic’ things like the nonsense of backing these anglo-led color revolutions all throughout Islam. Tarpley is far more honest in his approach.

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A youtube video was put up “Justice for Jeremiah — 8 Years Later.” Googling, I saw this — at first I glance I thought this was posted in 2006 — which would’ve made it completely surreal (a friendly note to “Spengler” before he disclosed his identity) — but it was posted in 2010.

The Larouche Movement has let it be known that they hate all of Manner of Human Decency by posting this tripe.  I am unsure if I want to recreate it here — there are both pros and cons to doing so — but it’s necessary to read it.  Click the link.

At first unrelated, but somehow still related, the figure who was in the Larouche movement and is still mentally of it — Xandafur — gives us this, a couple posts laer.:
Lyn is the the oldest new of the newest old, depending upon whether or not you’re new or old. If you think you’re new, than you might be old. If you think you’re old, than you might be new. If you’re new-old, than you’re old-new. Either way, you’re not an an old-new new-old, so go figure.

The most interesting series of posts in recent Factnet comes from “poe”, who a month or two ago expressed his raison d’etre as “Confronting Larouche and Confronting Dennis King”, a ludicrous expression of Equivalence which, even if given a 50-50 split on that score would amount to Larouchism.  All right, follow this through:

King:  Mrs. Duggan went in good faith to the former members in Germany, with awareness of the trauma they had experienced and a willingness to meet them halfway. She never called them Nazis. From most of them (the ones in a position to know, like Jonathan Tennenbaum) she encountered stony silence, hostility, and from a few, ludicrous excuses. She discovered that most of them really just didn’t give a damn what had happened to her son. They were too busy building up Solonline, their new entity based on LaRouche’s politics, and protecting their reputations.

poe:  Just what about Solonline’s politics do you condemn? I’ve been to their website several times and found nothing there worthy of attack. I’ve read LaRouche and his team attack them as being Anglophiles controlled by George Soros, and you and your team attack them as still being controlled by LaRouche, but I haven’t seen any evidence that they are controlled by anybody. Neither you nor Lyn seem to like to see ex-members free of control, though, do you?

The most pressing tenant of Larouchian ideology held by “Solon Online” that King and Duggan hold against them is the idea (expressed recently by Ace’s blog, actually) is the idea that they shouldn’t talk to Duggan about the Wiesbedan Schiller Institute Conference of 2003 –and so long as they hold to this idea it’s fair to call them “Larouchianism Without Larouche”.  Everything else is secondary, but I guess we await to see the use of the same header-image.

A couple years ago in the workings of this blog, I was a little puzzled by the Larouche Wikipedia Team’s interest in Mordechai Levy and the JDO and JDL, and AJ Weberman and through him Bob Dylan.  It was pretty quick to find the source of their interest — and all I could say was that “Leatherstocking”‘s ham-fisted “Yippie” references to King were amusing.  There isn’t a lot of “there” there — we have in Mordechai Levy a former “undercover Security Guard” who — well, I suppose we have the classic problem with the org and working with former associates — we could get some information from, who?, Frankhouser?

There’s not a lot of there there with this fracas — but the  snippets show how they fall into piece for the Org’s campaign :

The JDO is a split-off from the JDL. At the time of the Tupac-EZ shakedown they were still the same organization. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think that principled opposition to running protection rackets and making death threats (oops, I’m sorry, Dennis, I meant “boycotts” lol) against black rappers was an issue in the split. I don’t like the ADL for other reasons, but I agree with you that the ADL has condemned both the JDO and the JDL. Actually, they condemn them a lot more than they do LaRouche these days, but that’s a

Then there’s, an attempt to weave the discussion of solonline to this business.:

The difference between the JDL and the JDO is pretty much the same as the difference between the ICLC and SolonLine. One split off from the other. But they used to be one. At the time of the Tupac EZ threats they were still the same.

poe:  Wikipedia disagrees:
Quote:
The JDO was founded in the early 1980s by Mordechai Levy after a violent feud with the Jewish Defense League’s former leader Irv Rubin, who was killed or committed suicide in jail in 2002.[1] It is one of two United States offshoots of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) after a breaking with the JDL’s former leader Meir Kahane.[2]

To quote Stephen Colbert from the other day — on the news that Sarah Palin supporters had flooded wikipedia to alter the Paul Revere article to include Palin’s history of events — “I get all my historical information from wikipedia, just as Beach Volleyball Inventor Albert Einstein did.”  The page about Engdahl refers to Larouche as an “American Statesman”, for Pete’s Sake!  For poe, I’m struck by the reaching for not a contradiction — they split in the early 1980s, and then… in the 1990s…  And I’m mainly interested in the wikipedia articles in discerning what relatively recent anonymous isp numbers were trying to do here.

To the current Wikipedia happenings:  the lede no longer as having moved to the “far right” but as having “allied with” etc etc.  A whole mass of material has been moved from “Views” to the man proper — the Earthean Conspiracy against the Org and Man.

The org itself is publishing articles along the lines of:  “LaRouche’s Galactic Battle To Save Humanity Aired on Mexican Radio” and “LaRouche Featured on Icelandic Blog”.

Finally, before departing factnet, Hylozoic Hedgehog brought to attention the date that could be considered the chief element that would turn his political clique into a cult — from the dusty corridors of the early 1960s Trotskyite Movement Debating Societies.:
On 2 March 1962, LaRouche (a/k/a “Lynn Marcus”) gave a talk entitled “Freud and Marx. Their Theories of Knowledge” at a Friday night Militant Labor Forum which began at 8:30 pm. The notice for LaRouche’s talk appears in the 26 February 1962 issue of the Militant on page 2 of the paper in the “Weekly Calendar” section.
Forming some variety of Hall Putsch, I don’t know what type of Hall.

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Witzshe v Larouche.
Larouche’s latest article “A Certain World Map” is an historical overview of the current situation mankind faces. I’d like to see what Rold Witzshe’s reaction is to it.

Calling out Joseph Potvin, damned Canadian.

The turn to Rolfwitz is complete.

Rolf has more websites than me… and that’s a rare thing.

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STORY NUMBER ONE:  ANTI-SEMITISM SPOTLIGHT. Or maybe Book Club.  It wavers.

European already posted this, but it is worth posting every which way.  Here, available in the Second Edition here, is Dope, Inc endorsing the Protocls of the Elders of Zion, and turn to page 31 to follow along.

Britain’s new instrument of subversion in the United States was controlled elements of Italian and Chinese immigration, combined with the Order of Zion entity that had been in place since 1843. By the turn of the century, the different ethnic networks became so intertwined that, for generic purposes, the name “organized crime” applies to all of them.
The implantation of the ethnic secret societies into the United States is a complex story, but may be centered accurately in a few case histories. One is the way that the family of Sam Bronfman — the man who shipped enough liquor to the United States to double the size of Lake Eric, in the testimony of Lucky Luciano — got to North America. Bronfman’s story begins, in fact, in Romania, where the Order of Zion secret organization achieved its first major victory, a coup d’etat that brought King Charles of Romania to the throne in 1887.  In the years following the Civil War, the Order of Zion merged with the much alder Cult of Mizraem, a centuries-old covert organization that dated back to the days of Genoese and Hapsburg intrigue and assassination.
(21) From the British side. Sir Moses Montefiore. and on the Romanian front itself, American Consul Benjamin Peixotto, aided the local secret society in installing a new monarch. (22)  Peixotto held a leadership position in the American B’nai B’rith and was a member of the Order of Zion.  The Elders of Zion Romania became, in consequence, a nesting place for the most lurid form of Central European covert operations until the Second World War.  The character of the political machine the Order of Zion installed in that country is perhaps best illustrated by the strong support Order of Zion elements gave to the Romanian Green Shirt Nazis, who seized power in Hitler’s wake during the 1930s. (23) Romanian Jews show up prominently in American organized crime, as well as in the terrorist activities of the Israeli secret service, the Mossad.
The Order of Zion was simply the Jewish division of the Most Venerable Order of St. John of Jerusalem, the London-centered chivalric order and secret society, whose members swear — and act on — a blood oath.  A secret meeting in Paris in 1884 yielded the famous minutes of the Order, published under the title, Protocols of the Eiders of Zion. The minutes were intercepted and published by the Russian counterintelligence service, the Okhrana.  (24) Probably, the decision to publish the captured minutes involved retaliation against the Order of Zion’s role in fomenting a sweeping destabilization against the government of Russian Prime Minister Count Witte, whose government fell during the so-called 1905 Revolution. Witte had sought an alliance with Germany and France against Britain on a program that included the industrial development of Russia. The question of the authenticity of the Protocols has been a matter of fierce, even hysterical dispute. The question may be settled with dispatch by a textual comparison between the oaths of the Order of Zion printed in the Protocols, and the blood-curdling oaths sworn by initiates into the fourth Grade of the Knights of Columbus of Mexico, which maintains close ties to the Jesuits and to the Order of St. John of Jerusalem, which reads in part as follows:

(25) 1. ,, in the presence of all-powerful God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist . . . by the belly of the Virgin Mary, the womb of God and staff ox Jesus Christ, I declare and swear that his holiness the Pope is vice regent of Christ and sole and true head of the universal Catholic Church on earth, and in virtue of the keys to do and undo given to your holiness by my savior Jesus Christ, (you) have the power to depose kings and heretics, princes, states, communities and governments and dismiss them from office without risk. . . . I promise and declare that I will, when the opportunity presents itself to me, wage war without quarter, secretly or openly, against all the heretics. Protestant and Mason, such as I may be ordered to do, in order to extirpate them from the race nf earth, and I will not take into account either age, sex or station, and I will hang, burn, strangle and bury alive those infamous heretics: I will cut open the stomachs and wombs of their women and smash the heads of the babies against the rocks and walls, in order to annihilate the execrable race; that when this cannot be done openly, I will secretly employ the poison cut, strangulation, the sword, dagger or bullet, without consideration for the honor, rank, dignity or authority of
the persons, whatever their status in public or private life maybe, such as 1 may be ordered at any time. . .
If I manifest falsity or weakness in my determination, I consent that my brothers and comrade soldiers in the army of the Pope may cut off my hands, my feet and slit my throat from ear to ear. . – .
I promise to execute and fulfill this oath, in testimony, whereof. I take this sacred sacrament of the Eucharist and affirm it even with my name written with the point of this dagger, drenched in my own blood and sealed in the presence of this holy sacrament. Amen. (26)

Romania’s Order of Zion stronghold produced, among other criminal elements, one Yechicl Bronfman, who emigrated to Canada in 1889- Hie circumstances of Bronfman’s emigration are noteworthy. His passage was paid by the de Hirsch family fund for settlements in Canada — which conferred benefits with strings attached. De Hirsch political screening of new immigrants was so precise that a significant number of new
arrivals were sent back without funds, for unreliability. (27), The important features of the arrival of the Italian “Mafia” in the United States are inseparable from the story of the Order of Zion. Mazzini, the sponsor of the Mafia in Italy, reported directly to the most prominent of Britain’s Hofjvden. Prime Minister
Benjamin Disraeli, and received funding from the leading British Hofjvden bankers, Rothschild and Montcfiore. (2$)
Correspondingly, when Mazzini sent his lieutenants into the United States, the veterans of the “Young Italy” movement moved into channels already carved out by the likes of ex- General Pike and B’nai B’rith. The combination of Hofjuden controlled crime networks and the Mafia provided the framework for organized crime on a big-business scale.

And this keeps popping up again and again.

Although the Larouche historians do not say so, it appears that many members of this oligarchy were Jews. Cecil Roth writes: “The trade of Venice was overwhelmingly concentrated in the hands of the Jews, the wealthiest of the mercantile class.” (The History of the Jews in Venice, 1930)
As William Guy Carr points out in Pawns in the Game, both Oliver Cromwell and William of Orange were funded by Jewish bankers. The English Revolution (1649) was the first in a series of revolutions designed to give them world hegemony. The establishment of the Bank of England by William in 1694 was the next crucial step. Behind the facade, England has been a “Jewish” state for over 300 years. (pp.20-24)

Also, “Anwar is Nothing More than a Synoprant for the Jews” — as Michael Billington of Executive Intelligence Review can confirm.  I’m just reporting what the masses are saying about the Larouche org’s work.
The reaction to Steinberg’s appearances on Iran TV are always weird.

Ron Paul’s Newsletter commentaries in the 1990’s and his Quixotic 3rd Party Libertarian bid for Prez in 1978 and the racial overtones remind one of Lyndon LaRouche and these LaRouche wackos outside my U.S. Post Office this past winter.

STORY NUMBER TWO:  AL GORE IS WORSE THAN HITLER

Most of the species unique to the rain forests are in imminent danger, partly because there is no one to speak up from them.  In contrast, consider the recent controversy over the yew tree, a temperate forest species, one variety of which now grows only in the Pacific Northwest.  The Pacific yew can be cut down and processed to produce a potent chemical, taxol, which offers some promise of curing certain forms of lung, breast, and ovarian cancer in patients who would otherwise quickly die.  It seems an easy choice — sacrifice the tree for a human life — until one learns that three trees must be destroyed for each patient treated, that only specimens more than a hundred years old contain the potent chemical in their bark, and that there are very few of these yews remaining on earth.  Suddenly we must confront some very tough questions.  How important are the medical needs of future generations?  Are those of us alive today entitled to cut down all of those trees to extend the lives of a few of us, even if it means that this unique form of life will disappear forever, thus making it impossible to save human lives in the future?

Al Gore, from Earth in the Balance.   Something along the lines of this happened — this quotation is frequently used — by Limbaughs and Republican congress-members, or that old website “Al Gore or the Unabomber?”.  This diced quote is also found in Larouche’s literature, as I guess you might expect.  It’s a reason only soundbytes can get elected to anything.  There’s a straight line between this area of thought and this story, in the realm of Larouche’s cousin, “Italian government officials have accused the country’s top seismologist of manslaughter, after failing to predict a natural disaster that struck Italy in 2009.”

(Shrug)  ‘Tis why you can never really sympathize with this crap, and view the post Larouche organization as one field of fleighty junk to appeal to this:

Larouche is not paying attention to this and he one article on the Mississippi flood but if you watch the Agenda21 critical awareness sites, then both the floods and this Joplin tornado are consistent with an Agenda21 clearing of human settlements in the area. AND THIS

I know that this is his policy.
My point is that LaRouche’s own actions in the 1980′s and 1990′s have destroyed any credibility he may have had. As long as his name is still attached to this movement it will lack credibility as well. Ir he really believes in this cause, then he will remove his name from it for its own good.
Like it or not, public opinion does matter.
Although I think Lyndon LaRouche is a certifiable nutcase, this video is spot on.
This is one of the few groups which actually grasp the physics of the problem of supplying energy to power an industrial society. If only they would break off from LaRouche and form their own group, they might be taken more seriously by the general public.

What is to be done?

Pick up some LaRouche propaganda from your local LaRouchies and leave it on a couple of seats at the antivax conferences. This will either a) get some of them interested in LaRouche, thereby cross-pollinating between two nut trees, or b) cause those who are aware of LaRouche and creeped out by him, to feel highly uncomfortable with “LaRouchies showing up at our conference.”
You could also have someone go in undercover and recruit for the local LaRouchie organization. Do it overtly for example by “asking questions” that link vaccination to the various conspiracies the LaRouchies are always blabbering about. Alternately you can go in there spreading 9/11 truther stuff, or “we never landed on the Moon” stuff, or any other conspiracy theory you choose. Just be sure to read up on the one you’re going to spread, so you can do an expert job with it, and come off as a True Believer in both that stuff and the anti-vax stuff.
If someone claims that black helicopters are hovering over his house, sending black helicopters to hover over his house just proves him right. If someone believes mysterious strangers are trying to use mind-control devices on him, putting unidentified disruptive devices at his meetings proves him right. If someone believes he will be persecuted for his antivax beliefs, sending apparent undercover agents to spy and report on him proves him right. It may be ever so funny to see antivaxxers running around thinking that your psy-ops are the work of the One World Government, but the fact remains that they would be absolutely right to believe that they were the subjects of psy-ops by enemies.

Just the kind of subversice kick that Erin B was on, right?

STORY NUMBER THREE:  LAROUCHE ORG UNVEILS NEW BLOG.

Perhaps this is all you really need to know about the new “Factnet (mostly) Watch” blog, named after “Justice for Jeremiah“.  This is their avatar, the face of the movement I guess:

I suppose there is a good way of measuring ranks in terms of how big one’s name gets in the taglines.  But by that measurement, the biggest friend of Queen Elizabeth is Captain Frank.  It figures.  The org reposted this item, and I guess I see no reason not to post it here — with one correction:

A couple weeks ago, I went down the previous 500 “Ace” posts and came down to this 21 day line-up. (This was a quick enough count that it might not add up to 500 — I just wanted to get the general idea.)

13-May 39+    12-May 39   11-May 8   10-May 9   9-May 9   8-May 2   7-May 16
6-May 29    5-May 31    4-May 20    3-May 22    2-May 11   1-May 26   30-Apr 17
29-Apr 14   28-Apr 30   27-Apr 74   26-Apr 64  25-Apr 12   24-Apr 12   23-Apr 16+

I imagine the last week would veer closer to the above 40 range than the below a dozen. I can’t picture myself posting any more than 8, and that would be an extreme outlier if I were sucked into a discussion on something.
It was a “Rapid Response” system that included posting replies of “Oh goody [fill in the blank] is online and about to post”, a lot of crypto-threats (told Peter Tenenbaum “I’m keeping a scrap-book”), and pushing unrelated articles about Tony Blair (not even bothering contextualizing to the Larouchian view that Larouche is somehow involved — ’cause its self-evident.)
The most superficial end point came with Ace’s “I own this forum” and link to the youtube video on trolling. That’s essentially a challenge of “What are you going to do about it?” — I have seen a board administrator respond to that by changing all of a troll’s posts to some gratuitous self-insult.

Curiously, the blog’s response has it in the frame of me, a dismissive reference, “Playing Detective”.

We see more of the stylings of the Larouche org with the response to this funny piece by Erin B.  In this case, they refer to Erin B as having mental problems, and then say King is laughing at a Schizophrenic.  I suppose we now have a feeler on how the post-factnet dynamic will proceed, as the blog later finds validation in and posts Xandafur’s post.

It turned out that she had been hiding severe psychological problems, and that she was being heavily medicated. I honestly felt sorry for her, and I wish I could have helped, regardless of anything to do with LaRouche. I tried, and failed.

Respecting Xandafur’s “reach out” — I hardly trust this cult with sensitivity toward (minor or major) mental illnesses — one which does a good job of trivializing such by using it as a slur (honestly understood to be the case) to everyone from the Puerto Rican Socialist Party to Michael Dukakis.  (Enduring Question — in some of those joint causes done by the Larouchies as well as the Rev Moon’s Washington Times, the latter gets cited.  It is, I guess, a suggestion on how Larouche will be remembered.)  The Dope, Inc book suggests that the un-raveling of Western Civilization began with Ken Kesey’s One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, which taught that that “the people out there are the crazy ones” (I’m paraphrasing from memory.)  “No comment?”
But, you know — Tavistock!  And this is sort of the public view on some matters here:

Although the idea of being brainwashed is frightening, some people voluntarily undergo brainwashing-type activities. Followers of Lyndon LaRouche, a political activist, underwent a process he called “ego-stripping” that involved emotional abuse. LaRouche wanted to make his subjects feel like there was nowhere safe for them except in his movement. People administering ego-stripping insulted and belittled their colleagues, friends, and partners on every topic they could think of. LaRouche believed, at one point, that a member of his movement had been implanted with the idea to assassinate him. He recorded his ego-stripping session with the man. The recordings of the sessions indicate that the subjects were deprived of food and receiving electric shocks, adding physical pain to the sense of isolation and worthlessness. Not only did the man confess, but large segments of Larouche’s followers claimed that they had been brainwashed by the CIA or the East German secret police and programmed to kill. None of those claims were substantiated by psychologists.

Anyway, Erin B’s piece is funny, and informative.  I recommend it.  Since the cult has the reaction it gave to it, I guess you can up my recommendation to a “Highly Recommended”.

More youtube commentings:  jasonjasonjason1 says: Wow! Good thing you’re monitoring comments or otherwise sane people might say something true and your cult members might get savvy! Nice thinking Jim Jones.
Laroucheisright says: Jason: can you post the phone number where a person could get on Libeling LaRouche for 15$ per hour.

The news cannot be understood as it should be without the Classical Humanist frame of reference that Larouche has created over the past 40 years. And our personal lives are not divorced from the news as correctly interpreted, although most people try to live their private lives as if they can’t do anything about the big picture– as if understanding reality has no value. That’s bad citizenship and multiplied across a population, crashes that civilization. The first step in civilized behavior is to uphold the best civilized awareness of the big picture.

But that doesn’t stop his believers, who form an indescribably strange cult. It’s hard to overstate the insanity required to belong: first, you have to believe in visibly insane things, for instance that Lyndon LaRouche was only convicted of tax evasion and wire fraud because Oliver North brainwashed the judge, jury, and court reporters.
Second, because the traditional political divide entirely disappears with LaRouche. He began on the extreme left, but more out of vogue than anything else; his rhetoric has always been characterized by loopy authoritarianism. The Democratic Party has forever refused to have anything to do with him, and he has bent further to the right with each passing year as he seeks the new “libertarian” identifier.

Here’s European on Jeremiah Duggan.

STORY NUMBER FOUR: WIKIPEDIA?

The Larouche Wikipedia Team would like to change the line about “moving to the far right” with “sough alliances with” etc etc — including “The Reagan Administration”.  The comedy comes in the form of the Larouche Wikipedia Team’s suggestion that a consensus was made based on a 2 to 1 — which is a 66.6666 percent — opinion.  All matters up for some mediation, and we will see this work out somehow or other.

Frankly, this new intro is something of a travesty.  I don’t know how you can say that their new opinion expressing support for the Protocls of the Elders of Zion does not represent a move to the “far right”.  But we are moved into some of that typical “right and left are false dichotemy” arguments being made (by non-Larouche wikipedians — to a certain point a better frame, but limiting itself.  “Unintentional Comedic Irony of Mamatass Fascists for Che“.

Here’s the Wikipedia Review on the matters –take it away HK: However, if Wikipedia is ever going to become something like an encyclopedia, instead of “the biggest and most prolific defamation machine that the world has ever known,” something must be done to check the unrestricted use of news media as sources, especially for BLPs.  We also see some conspiracy in action at that link.

Hm.  I don’t know the answer to this question:
With what sort of outre poetic sentiment may we not then agree with LaRouche that time is not mere sequential happenstance but a function by which we enrich retrodictively the contributions of humanity’s better angels?

STORY NUMBER FIVE:  ROUND UP OF EVENTS

Some activists go to a town hall with Congressman John Larson (D,1, CT).  While the Larouche org will react by penning something like this:  Watch Diane Sare put New Jersey Governor Chris Christie to shame as she intervenes with the LaRouche program at a public meeting held by the governor on Thursday, the Republican activists have this going for them:

We rocked him for two hours.  He came in very partisan, placing blame for all things wrong with the economy at the feet of GWB and the Republicans.  Would not recognize the unsustainability of Medicare.  Plenty of class warfare against the rich – disgusting.  We interrupted him, corrected him and motivated plenty of seniors to chime in early.  His straight-faced solution for Medicare is eliminate fraud/waste, contain costs, and go back to the Clinton tax rates.  Most of the questions were critical.  There were even a group of LaRouche people giving him hell about the bailouts.  He didn’t expect it going in, but he got an earful.  He can be nasty, we’ve seen it before – he raises his voice dictatorial style – Mussolini would be proud – ha!  Hopefully he’ll re-tool for the next one cause from his team’s perspective this had to be a disaster.  We took video and that should circulate over the weekend.

This particular group of Republican activists need to get out of bed with Larouche right now. Lest this happen, following with people such as:

Tell them eagerly that you have a bunch of friends who would be interested in their message, and help yourself to as much of their propaganda as you can get without having to make a donation.
Then take it to a Republican event and hand it out there.
They’ll eat it up because it’s anti Obama.
Then one of two things happens.
a) They freak out when they discover they’ve been LaRouched, or,
b) they start promoting LaRouchism thereby neutralizing their effectiveness with undecideds and with a decent chunk of Republicans as well.

I don’t talk to cult members. And I keep walking.
I hate libertarian shills!
Which reminds me….so I was at the post office and started talking to a man with a literature table outside the building. He was talking about getting wise to how the President (he called him “Obama”) was double crossing the people who voted for him.
So I engaged him in conversation and some of the things he said made sense, some were off the wall and then he started talking about using the 25th amendment to have the President declared incompetent and removed from office.
It was at that point that I noticed (my eyes widening in horror) that the literature on his table bore the name “Larouche”.
Being polite it took me about 15 seconds to wrap up the discussion and skedaddle out of there.

Close & Goodnight: Glenn says, “Thanks so much for joining us tonight, and remember to tune in to the show tomorrow for…”
2. “My exclusive interview with an angry chimpanzee dressed as Lyndon LaRouche.”

That would be more like it.

Interesting.  A CEC “Media Release” to such media as the famed “Thank You White Knights Blogspot” source.

STORY NUMBER ONE:  ANTI-SEMITIC SPOTLIGHT
Consider this a new feature.  Maybe.
According to the Larouche Org, the Nazis, or the backers behind the Nazis (Larouche identified Joseph Kennedy before he did Prescott Bush) took Felix Rohatyn out of Germany, saving him from the Holocaust, in order to enact Nazi economic policies — up to and including the Holocaust — on New York City and the World at large.

Fascist economy is the best available, most concentrated modern example of this behavior.  The Felix Rohatyn-led approach to fascist economic methods of debt-rollover against New York City illustrates the same principle.  Rather than correcting the immediate error of New York City’s 1975 finances — that its economic base’s capability for revenue-production had been not only stagnant, but actually eroded by pyramiding of debt, Rohatyn et al proceeded to savagely destroy the economic base of the local economy in order to pyramid the unpayable debt still further.
At each point in the 1975-1977 process during which Rohatyn and his accomplices made a fresh innovation governed by the same depraved conceptions, the utter economic incompetence and inevitable consequences of each fresh innovation were properly blatantly obvious to any rational observer.  Yet, the financiers, New York State’s Governor Hugh Carey, the pathetic Mayor Beame administration, the cowardly City Council, and trade-union spokesman Victor Gotbaum plundered trade-union  trust funds and looted the vital services of the city, plunging ever-ahead to new innovations more depraved and incompetent than the proceding atrocities.  The mess, inevitably, is now monstrously worse as a result of the “remedies” than the original “disease” could ever have caused.  Obsessional “positive feedback.”
This is identical to the logic leading from the Hitler-Schacht Mefo-Bill and “labor intensive” Arbeitsdienst policies of 1933-1936 into World War II, and into the intensified application of the same labor-intensive methods in the slave-labor death-camp system of approximately 1943-1945.
Like Felix Rohatyn et al, in the New York ugliness, the Nazis and their backers did not set out with a conscious perception of a consequent, subsumed policy which (inclusively) slaughtered six million Jews.  Rather, clinging to the same (“positive feedback”) policy now being employed by Austrian Jewish refugee Felix Rohatyn to New York City, the Nazis were impelled, lawfully, step-by-step, to drive Rohatyn (to safety) out of Austria — he thus, one of the fortunate ones — and to slaughter six million of the European Jews the safe-and-sound Rohatyn left behind.
The Nazi regime which accomplished those deeds was not only the creation inclusive of some of the same financial interests with which Rohatyn is today associated as adopted representative, but the Nazi policy those financial powers built into Hitler’s Germany is the same policy — the same monetarists’ political doctrine — which Rohatyn is applying on their behalf to New York City.  In principle, Rohatyn is implicitly, retroactively endorsing the murder of the six million European Jews he left behind to be slaughtered.  That is obsessive ideology.
The associated process of moral degradation of the Nazis exactly like that being exhibited by Rohatyn and his present associated in New York City, is elementary.  At each point the axiomatic imperatives of the ideology come into practical conflict with some practical or moral principle representing the genuine self-interest of the nation or humanity, that principle is discarded, in order to maintain the obsessional practical imperatives demanded at that juncture by the ideology itself.  Hence, the “positive feedback” syndrome.
pages 45-46

This thread moves forward from “Case of Walter Lippmann” on to a few years’ ago where some Larouchies paraded into the Los Angeles City Council as the last governor and movie star and as Felix Rohatyn.  And while such things as a deep-seeded hatred of Franklin Roosevelt are pushed aside for political reasons, this item runs through something like this, from the 2003 Schiller Conference at Wiesbedan.:

He said in his keynote address to the conference, “This plot to launch a new world war has been intellectually influenced by people who, like Hitler, admire Nietzsche, but “being Jewish, they couldn’t qualify for Nazi Party leadership, even though their fascism was absolutely pure! As extreme as Hitler! They sent them to the United States.[…] Who’s behind it? . . . The independent central-banking-system crowd, the slime-mold. The financier interests.”
OR to Professor Mezvinsky.

It is this that gets Larouche some cachet around these parts.

One has to wonder how much Hitler’s “eugenics program” for the Jews actually benefited them in the long run. Of course, there were many thousands of Jews openly serving as Jews with the Nazis and actively collaborating with them to sellout their fellow Jews. Although, I wasn’t familiar with this particular chapter in history, so thanks for the info. […]

Though there is always push-back amongst the “White Nationalists” — evidence that Larouche is not a Nazi or Fascist here:

For anyone tempted, I can assure you the Lyndon LaRouche approach does not work. I was once accosted by a gang of them when I was working downtown … they were noisily screaming at us while we walked to lunch, trying to make us take a pamphlet. We just ended up making fun of them – it was a good chuckle. They seemed like weird people that were mentally unstable and desperate to relevant. Anyway, not a good direction to go in.

From an upcoming book:  Like Lyndon LaRouche, another conspiracy-obsessed megalomaniac, William Dudley Pelley […]  Find out the similarities between Larouche and William Dudley Pelley there, I guess.  Pelley was into that solar system change stuff?

Hm.

imoho – LaRouchian and particularly Larouche-noirian influences have inflicted numerous casualties on what would otherwise be a moderate-progressive tending Black intelligentsia.
one wonders how/why folk don’t disavow these shyte machinations the very instant they detect the faint but unmistakeable ordure of a LaRouchian tentacle in the background?

Though I’ve not been able to document it to the extent required to meet all applicable evidentiary standards, the overlap in personnel and messaging between Alex Jones, David Livingstone, Henry Makow, Red Ice Creations and a handful of others – has led me to conclude that many of these web media entities are themselves LaRouche fronts.
I was quite the cult-sleuth back in my day, and Cambridge MA, was a hotbed of cultic and specifically LaRouchian publishing and bookselling activity (awesome bookstores mind you). One of my buddies (now deceased) was the only child of the highest ranking Council of 25 with nominal administrative control of LaRouchian organizational activities out of Chicago.
He was on permanent student status at MIT and spent quite a bit of time recruiting and a little bit proselytizing for the LHL cartel.

Some places here and there have called Alex Jones a “Larouche front” — the right wing organization “Accuracy in Media” amongst them.  I doubt it.  There are “connections”, surely, I’m just not going to insert the Central Octopus with multiple tentacles conspiracy, and I’m not going to ascribe the central head to Larouche.
Certainly, they are part of an industry of sorts.

Bingo.

Witch hunts occurred in Liberty Missouri in 1982 – it was a suggestive issue targeting persons who were not liked. Imagine your father finding something then dying and people call you witch? For 26+ years of “back hysteria” I look to Swamp Politics in the Chicago Tribune. Robert Novak and Hagel discussed me while Christic Institute had campers in Omaha between 1994-2003. Who else? Larouche and company.

But — vhat is this?”
Today, as we have dis­cussed it on a few occa­sions, social move­ments are a mix­ture of sev­eral ide­olo­gies that, in the past, were con­sid­ered in com­pe­ti­tion. Extreme-Right, Extreme-Left and Islamism today com­pose the fab­ric of sev­eral groups and, for the Lib­eral world, it is a cat­a­stro­phy. The results of the actions of groups such as Wik­iLeaks, Lyn­don Larouche, Tea Par­ties, etc, are desta­bi­liza­tion of their soci­eties. You can see that their intent was not good in any way.

And…
But a lot of their literature descended into conspiratorial kookery, such as claiming that JFK was assassinated by “British Empire bank-connected assassins” for wanting to get us out of Vietnam, claims that White House science adviser John Holdren supports forced population control (no, he doesn’t).
Debunk Larouche with a debunking of Glenn Beck?  Why not?  They shared magazine titles.

And… more.

Sigh. Sounds like Lyndon Larouche again – the Aga Khan is one of his signature licks. There seems to be regular sprinkling of Larouchisms throughout GR; makes me wonder if Chossudovsky had/has some connection.
See.

STORY NUMBER TWO:  JESUS COMES BACK TO EARTH (Priming for Saturday’s rapture?), LANDS IN AUSTRALIA, FOLLOWS LAROUCHE

Currently the biggest news item on factnet.  You can’t get a bigger endorsement than Jesus, right?

A couple who claim they are Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene have set up base in Queensland’s Bible Belt and are drawing in disciples from across Australia, the Courier-Mail reports:
Note: The Divine Truth website’s section of ‘interesting links’ includes links to the Lyndon Larouche cult.

There are links on the couple’s Divine Truth Web site to the Lyndon LaRouche PAC.

Great.  Jesus knows about my role in the British Empire.

STORY NUMBER THREE:  IS THIS THE END OF THE LAROUCHE CRYONICS MOVEMENT???

It’s over.  Witzsche has emerged over Larouche as Top Dog, and the Larouche principles will no longer be the primary principles on the frontier of Cryonic research.  Given limited resources, it will more likely be Rolf Witzsche who will be frozen for future reanmination.

Rolf Witzsche has gripped me, cognitively, with his most lucid writing on the nature of the electric plasma nature of the universe and its implications, the major one being that we’re heading directly into an ice age. It’s immediately ahead. Even Lyndon Larouche whose writings have gripped me since 2000, is ignoring Witzsche. Larouche’s economics is still highly relevent but the visionary human project cannot be what Larouche says… it’s now a Witzsche led vision.

How did we come to this point?

Rolf’s divergence from Larouche is astonishing considering just today the Larouche youth posted a new video on the quakes resulting from solar disturbances. The key to resolving the situation is semantic framing. There is some overlap in terminology but we know Larouche is coming up short this time because he hasn’t used the word plasma or “electric cosmology” in his works.

Note that he calls the people behind the weaponized use of it “master of empire” rather than “British Empire” as Larouche would.

SO…
by pointing out the pointlessness of the original NAWAPA but Larouche people are still pushing it. On the other other hand, Witzshce promotes the strange Mary Baker Eddy Christian Science material which I find tedious and just so unrelated that I can’t believe he’s involved in it. It makes absolutely no sense.

It would appear that the Australian Jesus cult’s attraction to Larouche comes with the new focus on “Solar system Changes”.  It is ironic that the same issue has  Larouche gaining Jesus’s approval but losing the Larouche Cryonics Movement.  Hm.

Hm...  If you Keep advocating Lyndon LaRouche you then can only condemn us to eventual monetary failure.

“Anybody who is not making forecasts, useful forecasts, about volcanoes and earthquakes, should be thrown out of public office.” Lyndon LaRouche, April 19th 2011 webcast.
Hey!  This Jesus guy is making forecasts!  He should be the CEC’s candidate for Australia’s highest office!

Or maybe he can take over after Larouche dies (and Helga is killed by Video Game fanatics in a violent video game programmed rampage?)  [Note:  The young man — Jarred L– who shot at Congress woman Giffords was really into “Zeitgiest”, mentioned previously with respect to Larouche’s starring role.  I mention this by way of asking for more refined causalities.)
I suppose that violent joke chimes in to this sentiment, from “Xandafur”.  I hope you might think about how our human potential is increased by every living soul. If you can do that, than you might begin to understand LaRouche, or even Beltran, as I do, given everything.
Hm
I don’t think LaRouche is infallible. In fact, the tantra that “LaRouche is (always) right” was always annoying to me, even when I was a green recruit, but that does not take away from the fact that LaRouche has good role. My axioms are indebted.
Hm.  One area of disagreement with Larouche there.  I don’t know what this guy says on that score.

Laroucheisright:  @morningmayan Wow thank you for posting this. You have such a great smile. I just found it a year and one half later. I love LaRouche. He is like a father to me. I met Mr. LaRouche in 1975 and had the same response to him as you. And I been supporting him ever since. As far as extremist behavior. If what Lyndon is doing is extremist then I wish there were a lot more extremists in the world.
Worst.  Surrogate Father.  Ever.
It is with him in mind that I stick these recruiting principles up to look over later.

wow a bunch of nasty idiots here what’s-up uthnet? “Show us your tits”? You leave nasty comments and unfounded like the others up? Forget the content ya? ok no problem, after all it is only humanity hanging by a thread. What me worry ya?

I believe this with total confidence with following LaRouche for the last 25 years and find him morally and totally dedicated to the benefit of this country and the people.

STORY NUMBER FOUR:  DIFFERENCES EMERGE ON STRAUSS-KAHN

Okay… Point: It would seem that Strauss-Kahn had charted a course for the world economy other than straight over a cliff, so he had to go. Likewise, Bill Clinton was set up with Lewinsky, knowing that he would find her hard to resist, after uttering a few words about a new global financial system along the lines which LaRouche proposes. Linda Tripp, a George H.W. Bush stay-behind, was assigned to watch them like a hawk.

Counterpoint: IMF: Raping the world one person at a time.
Which is the true Larouchian point of view?  Only Australian Jesus will be able to keep these matters straight after Larouche passes on.

STORY NUMBER FIVE: MULTNOMAH COUNTY DEMOCRATS REBUKE LYNDON LAROUCHE IN PASSING GLASS STEAGALL RESOLUTION

In a shocking rebuke of the Lyndon Larouche movement, the Multnomah County Democratic Party passed a resolution in support of implementation of Glass Steagall which stripped out the Larouchian clause

WHEREAS Glass Steagall and Defeating Satan are the same thing.

Speculation has ensued from political pundits to the effect that this may be a special case of the secular nature of the state of Oregon.  The next test of Larouchian strength will come by what passes out of the Oklahoma State Democratic Party, and whether or not it includes the Larouchian “Satan” clause.

Also excluded, any clause about Glass Steagall being the ouster of Obama.

Glass-Steagall Win Would Oust Obama – by Harley Schlanger Reprinted from *Executive Intelligence Review,* May 13, 2011 (Saw the headline in the PUMA aggregator.)

Who supports Glass Steagall?

Who doesn’t...
When the meeting opened up to a question-and-answer session, members of the LaRouche Political Action Committee repeatedly asked Lynch why he hadn’t supported the Glass Steagall Act of 1933, which introduced banking reforms.
One member told Lynch to “grow a spine.”
“Grow a spine?” Lynn said. “I voted against the TARP bailout.”
Lynch said the Depression-era law would not addess the current pro blems in the financial industry.

Get the County Democratic Party to pass something on this,  Because all environmental disasters are caused by the English Crown, and then I’ll be impressed.

STORY NUMBER SIX:  POST OFFICE TOUR HITS ABOUT VARIOUS PLACES, earns ten bucks.

If you want to head off to Bridgewater State University, you gotta find a campus group to sanction you.

Hm.

Holy cow! I knew Lyndon LaRouche was still alive, but I didn’t know he was commenting on B-J.
Masons? Do the LaRouchies work the Masons into their conspiracy theories?
The last person who actually had trouble with Masonic conspiracies was George III.
I have no idea. My dealings with LaRouchies have mercifully been limited to one encounter with a woman handing out pamphlets outside the Pike Place Market last time I was in Seattle. I just thought the Masons deserved a shout out. I could have gone with the Odd Fellows, but I thought they might be too obscure.

(Just in case you’re wondering, yes–Triablogue used to be the Trilateral Commission before Lyndon LaRouche outed us.)

Interesting question this.
Or has anyone ever walked by a table with some creepy people holding signs with President Obama with a Hitler moustache drawn on him and decided, “well that changed my mind, I’m voting for Lyndon Larouche in the next election.”  No, of course not, so why do people still do it?
Hold on.  There’s an answer for you.  It gets them Ten Bucks!  (I assume this “next election” is a joke… as he is not running.)

BERKLEY???? I am not a LaRouche-ite, but I applaud them for having the guts to do this right in the heart of the most liberal/socialist/commie city in our disUnited States of America. Bravo!
I shook this guy’s hand and gave them a $10 donation. LOL
Be careful giving your contact info to the LaRouchies. They use every political issue as a recruitment tool. Like all political organizations, they’re looking to expand their mailing list and they’re very tenacious.
I’m speaking from experiences from 20 years ago when they offered all-expenses paid trip to Washington DC to a retired state Supreme Court Justice and a friend of mine — both fighting the America 2000/Goals 2000 Education Reform — to speak at the LaRouche Convention and write articles for their national newspaper.
Hardcore LaRouchites go from 0 to 60 in less than 60 seconds! Neither the judge or my friend took them up on the offer; but, they had to be very, very firm over a period of time in turning them down.
Be very careful associating with LaRouche- his background is Marxism. I suspect some of his policy statements are in an effort to co-opt the Tea Party; his people were often the ones pointed out at Tea Party rallies as “infiltrators.” Some suggest there is a distinct anti-Semite line as well as anti-gay to his message.

No.

The Grass Lake Post Office was the scene of a public protest Thursday, May 5, 2010.

Public protest?

Someone asked the question:  Will the Tea Party go the same way as Larouche?  Kind of thinking we ae going to see them at bus stops and post offices harassing people after 2012. Joining all the other shouting out “repent, repent, the end is near”. Might be the same ones.

On Larouche denouncing Ron Paul: The fact that I still LaRouche followers out in full force at protests and events (they were at the Sacramento Capitol CTA protest last week and at a random event i attended in Sebastopol) should scare Americans.

We are falling into the Ron Paul comparisons.

In mocking Ron Paul,  Larouche is remembered incorrectly.

I don’t know if this is  Rand Paul or Ayn Rand?  Via Jonathan Chait:  “I know I harp on Rand a lot, but I can’t get over the outsized influence over public life commanded by an utter nutball. If we had prominent members of Congress running around citing the theories of Lyndon LaRouche, people would freak out. That’s the situation we’re in.”
It’s weird and sad but I’m actually grateful there’s still a reporter/writer on the national scene who remembers LaRouche and his certain brand of insanity.
In order to properly mock Lyndon LaRouche the day would need 25 hours.

Is #RonPaul taking over the mantle of “Never Gonna be Elected Ever but I’m still gonna Run” from Lyndon LaRouche?

Gingrich nominated by “Larouche’s Libertarian Party”?  (Not so libertarian.)

BHO may get his way and turn the the 2012 race into a contest between a Reagan vs a Lyndon LaRouche Repyublican. Ever heard of Pyrrhic victories? (Toward a Repulican Labor Party, I think they called it back in the late 1970s.)
i begin to wonder…he might have been okay with lyndon larouche, alf landon, or even william jennings bryan but this crop is just pathetic

Both men are batshit.

Ron Paul is…  the perenial candidate sort of like Lyndon Larouche but without the beggars at the airport or Pat Paulson back in the 60’s and 70’s.

Ron Paul isn’t Larouche because:  If you listen to Mr. LaRouche you will hear something better, The reason you havn’t heard LaRouche is because he represents a real threat to the enemy. LaRouche knows how to defeat the NWO.

Equals Noam Chomsky.

You have shown yourself, through your ignorant and oft convoluted writings to be just a little further right than Lynden LaRouche.
STORY NUMBER SEVEN:  WIKIPEDIA TEAM GOES ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL FRONT

Noting the expansion of the section on Larouche’s views on energy and the environment, enter the new Larouchian sock puppet “Waakies” with a “background in science” and a sparkling note to Will Beback that ends with the tell-all “Cheers!”.  Comedy ensued with the notice of “Welcome to wikipedia”, “One of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive”, “Please us the sandbox for any test edits and read the Welcome page to learn about contributing constructively”.  Har de har har.

New information in the wikipedia articles include the historical view on the 3 Mile Island accident being an act of sabotage, that the ban on DDT was part of a plot to reduce the population by 10 million — spearheaded in part by noted anti-nuclear Congressman Dick Cheney, and Christopher Monkton as a validator with a “relatively limited view of the cabal behind the hoax” — meaning Monkton never pegged the conspiracy back to the Babylonians.

The bones of contention Waakies had included a reference to Rush Limabugh as passing something about the Ozone Hole Hoax — as “it’s not necessary for wiki to add what right-wing weirdos like Limbaugh think.”  I can say a similar thing about Glass Steagall.  In Limbaugh’s case, it is an explanation on how Larouchie ideas get disseminated into public discourse.
Another bone of contention revolves around the Larouche Wikipedia Team’s desire to remove the reference to 21st Century Science and Technology writer Rogerlio Maduro’s degree in geology.  The comparison made is to Chip Berlet — hm.  Wikipedia can handle this as it must, but Science is rather more specialized.
And we are stuck on the term global warming “denialism” — the term an “advocacy term used by green activists”.

In other news, Alejandra Peña Esclusa was added to the “former associates” list.  And the section on the campaign against Leo Strauss was expanded — notably a reference the the org “borrowed heavily from Shadia Drury”.

Hm.
NAWAPA versus the Eco-Nazis.

Helga Zepp on the Global Environmental Nazis.

Hm.
For Russia TV’s Max Keiser:  Lyndon Larouche is the man With real solutions to this world mess !!!  (and don’t just go to Wikipedia for info on him,as there u will not find truth BTW )

STORY NUMBER EIGHT:  BRITISH MONARCHY RULES THE WORLD

ABX as Lyndon Larouche demonstrated if you want a source besides the ZGR is a Windsors-Rothschilds concern,with lesser devils like the Bush and Mulroney families. Don’t touch the Queens golds Africans. It is her world and you’re all her subjects. She is implementing shoot to kill in the USA orders through the rigged courts abrogating the Constitution.

This is one defense of the British monarchy — if true, it’s enough:  The British monarchy contributes more money to the British economy than it costs.
It can’t be a parasite if it’s actually profitable for Britain to have a monarchy.
Even if:

Let me add a third article to the topic: the use of church and rock music to entice folks into the drug subculture. This area of study is a relatively well researched one. The writings of John Coleman and the Executive Intelligence Review analysts have documented highly revelatory information about the subject, and I find their researches as highly recommended readings for starseeds and seekers.

Hm.  Factnet’s Larouchians have introduced me to the Amish Potheads.

Read the biography on Adlai Stevenson III, and — wait. He moved to London after the election, where he participates in the London – led World Order through various foundations?  Someone alert Gerald Pechenuk!

And… RIP Claire Blomquist.

You thought you knew what riding in a motorcycle club was all about….but you’ve never met Douche LaRouche.
No, but… Maybe you —
have repeatedly harrassed Lyndon Larouchies at card table setups in airports and public spaces. Does that mean I know the heart of darkness when I see it?

Point:
“Frankly, (reporters) are a distraction to us,” one of the sign holders said. The guy also refused to answer any questions about the LaRouche organization.
“Well, you know, I’ve noticed over the years that the media lies,” the man said. […]
This encounter with the LaRouche minions mirrors what happened the last time we tried to learn more about the LaRouche protestors and their stance.
Rather than stand behind their free speech, they scurry into the proverbial shadows, like cockroaches, when questioned.

And Counterpoint: Actually, this isn’t all that interesting, really.  In the end it fills its “Life’s passing parade of Just background images” fuction.  I do sympathize with the “another politician” guys — and jump to 12:34 for the Larouchies explaining Larouche’s prison sentence.  That’s kind of interesting, maybe?  Skip to 24:54, for the reaction to the ultimate question, “anyway you can donate a few dollars?”

This is better:
“Military of Ideas” was sitting at the table, taking a break from the action. Feeling feisty, I put the stroller in park, pulled down the canopy to block the boy’s view—just in case things got nasty—and smiled, hoping to elicit another catchy slogan. Thinking she had a live one, she blurted out in a pissy voice, “What are you doing to stop the war?” Prepared for a question like this, I responded in an affected voice, “Well, what are you doing to stop the war?” I could have easily said, “I know you are but what am I?” “Voting for LaRouche!” she sassed back. Without missing a beat, I responded, “Voting is stupid.” My old anarchist days were resurfacing and I was ready for a fight. Circle the “A” motherfuckers, I’m back!

Though, the youtube video has a man complaining about all the self-described Anarchists swayed by the Cult of Personality of Obama. So, point / counterpoint there.

Thinking back to his conversation with Alex Jones, slipping out his story — he was an FDR Democrat, saw things change under Truman.  A fuller story is told in LPAC’s documentary of 2008 — “1932:  Speak Not of Parties But of Universal Principles” — to this effect:

The 1932 USA Presidential election was a crucial turning point in USA and world history.  London and Wall Street were prepared to implement a version of the fascism of Hitler and Mussolini in the United States itself, and they were making great efforts to control the Democratic Party and stop Roosevelt’s nomination.  Obviously, against tremendous odds, Roosevelt succeeded, but out of what tradition did such a man as FDR emerge?

We’ve got this guy.  The “official LaRouche arm of the California Democratic Party” is called the “Franklin Delano Roosevelt Legacy Democratic Club”.  And it goes on and on for this org.
According to a book I read, the tradition that such a man FDR emerged from was the Hitler tradition.  Um…
Roosevelt’s fascist-flavored monetist approach to the “bank holiday” and other features of his administration are clear instances of evil motivations serving special interests at the expense of the vital interests of the United States.  Otherwise, especially in respect to Roosevelt’s persistence with an economic recovery program whose pre-ordained failure would be ABC to any competent economist, the Roosevelt administration was predominantly, sincerely stupid.

The US electorate never understood the Roosevelt administration in any actually relevant detail; rather, they blindly trusted it, as a child trusts the fact of his particular parents, as more or less ‘the way things are decreed to be.’  Nothing yet had developed to disturb the controlling self-delusions of more than a relative handful.

The breakdown of the monetary order during 1929-1931, and the immediate economic sequence of the monetary failure broke the will of America to continue to resist the fascist impulse.  Franklin Delano Roosevelt, beginning in 1933, attempted to exploit the shock-effects of the social crisis to attempt to introduce consciously fascist policies and obtained instead a compromise, a thinly disguised corporatism politely termed the “New Deal”.

It must be emphasized that the Wall Street backing of Roosevelt’s first election and the installation of Hitler were complementary efforts.  Hitler could have been pulled down — possibly without war — by the United States at any time prior to the 1938 Munich agreements.  The US could have sent the French army — two or three divisions would have sufficed — into the Rhineland in 1936, and Hitler would have collapsed.  The economic and monetary power of the United States respecting Britain and France would have sufficed to prevent the 1938 Munich agreement and could have induced the Tukachevsky Plan if we had wished.  Although the US capacity for political and related action was admittedly deliminited by the internal political situation inside the US, it is obscenely false to profess that a Roosevelt administration did not consciously refrain from employing those preventative measures within the existing discretionary capabilities of the government.  Shattered as the US was by the Depression, we had the power to determine, marginally by crucially, the policies of England and France in such respects.

Nor can Roosevelt defenders argue that he was either uninformed of the implications of the Nazi regime, or profess that public opinion prevented him from taking preventative actions otherwise within the means.  The 1934-1945 period — refining the use of the press as a “brainwashing” tool against the US population and Roosevelt himself was the “confidence man’s confidence man.”

Not only was Roosevelt’s administration pro-fascist in foreign policy, but also in domestic policy.  General Hugh Johnson and the National Recovery Act left no doubt of that.  With the defeat of the NRA and Congressional and Supreme Court resistance and foot-dragging on other legislation, executive actions, and labor struggles to the same effect, Roosevelt’s administration was compelled politically to a compromise, semi-fascist policy, called the “New Deal.”  Such direct imitations of the Hitler regime’s labor-intensive Arbeitsdienst measures and BdM institutions as the Works Project Administration (WPA), Public Works Administration (WPA), and the Civilian Conservation Corp were not only imitations of the Nazi regime, but consciously so.  The Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA) was another fascist “zero growth” oriented atrocity of the same genre.  On the inevitable re-organization after the Bank Holiday, his approach paralleled Schacht’s reorganization of the Nazi economy in method if not in detailed form.

Roosevelt by using corporatist methods — eg, the NRA — and by emulating the Hitler regime’s Arbeitsdienst in forms such as the WPA, CCC, and so forth, took credit for the autocannibalistic process of modest recovery of 1933-1937, and called the whole unwholesome mass the “New Deal.”  It is a wretched delusion to imagine that Roosevelt’s policies in any significant way contributed to an economic recovery during the middle of the 1930s.

Since Gerald Ford backed down in face of a monstrous election fraud on the morning of November 3, 1976, amid blackmailing rumors from Rockefellar circles concerning Ford’s alleged “KCIA taint,” and since others predominantly, wishfully refused to believe up through December 13, 1976 US Labor Party warnings of what a Carter administration in a chain of horror-stories going back through Kennedy, Roosevelt, Wilson, Buchanan, Van Buren, and Andrew Jackson — with Republicans Theodore Roosevelt and Taft properly thrown into the collection.  Unless forces are mustered adequate to change US nominal policy now, the result may well the physical extinction of our nation this year or next.

The same consistent expressions of American Toryism run through Beard, Arnold, Williams, Roosevelt, Kennedy, and the Carter administration.  These people are not Americans, but the grotesque reflections of an alien social disease of heteronomy which has poisoned the body politic.  It is within the same context that the philosophically fascist film Roots is to be appreciated.

After the events of the Kennedy administration, and the increasingly savage assault upon those institutions and principles which were our nation’s heritage and conscience, the Rockefeller – linked and other financier elites represented in the Kennedy administration project stripped much of our nation’s youth — and most of all themselves — of the last shards of a credible self-image of intellectual integrity.

The Kennedy administration represents a first attempt to launch the kind of intentionally-decisive successive confrontations with the Soviet leadership, along lines outlined in Henry Kissinger’s earlier brinkmanship doctrinal piece, for which the present Carter Administration is an inflated parody, down to Jimmy Carter’s cultivation of a “Kennedy coiffure”.

Hitler Mustaches on both of them! — (go to MISCELLANEOUS, 2:46 pm)

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Y’know.  dumping these passages and paragraphs and smashing them together (if you want to set them apart, feel free to just go to the index page under “Roosevelt”), from The Case of Walter Lippmann, I am surprised.  I somehow imagined that the org evaded this in the jump from “Beyond Marxism” (no need to discuss Roosevelt except in terms of continuity) to — “Beyond Skousenism” (who’d trash Roosevelt).  A couple more lines of import:

To make this point clear, we should briefly consider how the writer, as President of the United States would regard revenues of production and personal income.
Long paragraph follows–
Roosevelt, monstrously compounding Colonel House’s offenses, did the exact opposite.

Skip to page 152.
We repudiate the Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt doctrines respecting the notion of conditional sovereignty as exemplified in their practice for the cases of Mexico and the Soviet Union.
Wasn’t Henry Wallace going to continue the Roosevelt legacy, but Truman got in the way?

“The Case of Walter Lippman” endorses retroactively, an Austerity “Shock Doctrine” for Great Britain.  Just to make the British suffer, I suppose as punishment for World War II.  Rothschild is blamed for assassinating Lincoln — wait a few years and they’ll get around to blaming him for Kennedy.  On page 45-46, does that old deed of having Felix Rohatyn endorse the Holocaust.  The book ends by coming out for the destruction of representative democracy by having the electoral college break away from the vote the states’ popular vote gave to Carter.

Hm… US Labor Party warnings of what a Carter administration in a chain of horror-stories going back through Kennedy, Roosevelt, Wilson, Buchanan, Van Buren, and Andrew Jackson — with Republicans Theodore Roosevelt and Taft properly thrown into the collection — Where’s Truman?  And Grover Cleveland isn’t even in the index page!

Tracing the evolution on FDR to just a few years’ forward, in 1980 they fail to mention Roosevelt in their diatribes against Carter, as they’re letting loose a forward like this one:

There are two different species among those Americans who accept the label of “conservative.”  The two are as different from one another as people differ from radialarian ooze.  The one variety is an unwholesome breed of pot-puffing fops, thugs, and faggots, of the sort one might expect to find at any convening of New York’s East Side Conservative Club.  From William Buckley, Roy Cohn, William Safire on, a nastier, more debase lot of loyal scoundrels for Her Majesty the Queen would be hard to discover.
The more numerous, opposing species of “conservative” is a continuation of what was formerly hated by the British Aristocracy, and named “American Nationalists”.  General Douglas MacArthur is usually prominent on the list of heroes for such talk.  The more literate among them are distinguished by fairly detailed knowledge of the treasonous character of the New York Council on Foreign Relations, “Bilderbergers” and the Trilateral Commission.  Most of the inner kernal among the second set of patriotic conservatives reads the Spotlight, and a fair proportion have also read W Cleon Skousen’s The Naked Capitalist, as well as despising the pot-puffing Yale fop William F Buckley.  This kernal is, so to speak, the “Gideon’s Army” of American nationalism today, up to a quarter-million more influential persons who are the opinion leaders for a similarly inclined population, more than a scorefold larger.

Someone will have to point me to the first lionization of Franklin Roosevelt, around the turn of the 1980s I suppose.  I guess this works out okay — Ronald Reagan made good use of FDR rhetorically, and besides, in a world where Thomas Jefferson and Adam Smith were Communists — well, the Liberty Lobbyists and the Skousenites (Hey!  Everything old is new again!) needed to be educated on what’s what. If a few years previously, Larouche was “Beyond Marxism”, he is now “Beyond Skousenism”, and so the oddness Regardless of what one may think of Mr. Jones’ or Mr. LaRouche’s unabashedly libertarian political rhetoric. — it’s — wait, he warned against the Cult of Libertarian Jefferson?  Had the book been published today, the Hitler mustache would have been affixed to that cover of Jefferson.

In a sense, Farah and his WorldNet(Nut)Daily seem to be filling a role once played by Lyndon LaRouche and his National Caucus of Labor Committees organization, later known as the U.S. Labor Party, back in the ’70′s and ’80′s.  LaRouche made strong rhetorical appeals to the extreme populist right and extolled views that on the surface appeared to coincided with Conservatives, all the while highly critical of the Reagan Administration.  Often described in the media as a hard right winger, he was actually a Stalinist.

This is the relative document to understand what was going on, and how the org manuevered around political movements.  I have another idea: define Roosevelt as Fascist.  Lay out the characteristics that make Roosevelt Fascist.  Then declare yourself an FDR Democrat.  (Besides, you need a storyline of some sort to sell your ‘Democratic bonafides” in skipping from the third party apparatus of the “Labor Party” to the Democratic Party primaries.  The only wikipedia edit of note this week is  NCdave says that “not recognized by Party leaders” is weasel words, this sort of caveat is never applied in Wikipedia to embarrassing Republicans.“  Do what you must, but I suppose we’ll get lost in the fog of examples — the David Duke article is full of examples, and I would hesitate in making the Larouche article longer.)

Was this guy in the org bashing Roosevelt?

And so it goes:  they tried to crash the TEA party I organized
After seeing that, made me think of the Lyndon LaRouche supporters that have their little converted Hot Dog stands outside the Post Office to sell LaRouche literature.  Though they only have Hitler mustaches on Barry, nothing about UFOs.

has made a career out of  inexplicable politics (he feels everyone’s personality should be stripped away so they can think like him)
Anyone go to see Diane Sare’s Emergency Meeting?
really?  He became rich and famous and big under Bush?
To associate the skeptics of climate change with the repudiators of the link between AIDS and the HIV virus and the conspiracy theories of 9/11 and the “Larouche delusions,” shows clearly that professor Clive Hamilton rests his case on an intellectually very weak reed.
I suppose the Tonkin Gulf Incident was real, and anyone who suggests otherwise is in the same category as David Ickes and Lyndon LaRouche. I suppose Woodrow Wilson was right to lock up all those deluded conspiracists who said WWI was a“rich man’s war and a poor man’s fight.”
I think Lyndon LaRouche is a screaming nutjob, thank you very much, BUT he used to harp about something he called “hysterical flight forward” which really seems appropriate much of the time in discussing leadership issues in the US.
I see it [British Royal Family] as a political cult (like the LaRouchies) with it own unique set of doctrines that bear only a casual or incidental relationship to anything from the conventional right.
Let’s help those people. All of them. Even the ones still writing in the name of Lyndon LaRouche on their ballots.
I’m a total cult junkie. I went to school near DC where there’s a big Moonie presence and Lyndon Larouche (a leader of a political cult) has a lot of his base in the Maryland area. I will definitely see this movie. There is something so fascinating them. They’re horrid and scary, but still fascinating.
Like Ayn Rand
This is at least as distasteful as the Tea Party’s marking of the Royal Wedding by repeating Lyndon LaRouche’s claims about the Queen and the Royal Family. Except that the Tea Party and Lyndon LaRouche do not constitute the only electoral options in the United States.
just read the latest IAM flyer regarding the gutting of scope and I thought at first this was meant to be a satirical piece. As I read further however I realized this is the typical blather and misdirection that this group uses to communicate its political message. When reading these missives lately I always half expect an ad from Lyndon LaRouche screaming “Let’s colonize Mars because it’s good for the economy!”
Tipster, did you really just post an article from the Lyndon LaRouche Intelligence Review?  LOL… you are nuttier than I thought. […] Sorry tipster, anyone who associates in any way with Lyndon larouche is a supreme ass@hole. This is the guy who has his followers walk around with posters of Obama as hitler […]
Every Democratic president since 1940 has been challenged in the primaries, except for possibly 1996. It depends if Lyndon LaRouche can be considered a credible challenger to Bill Clinton.
This will also be a good chance to explain to them some of the facts of political life, such as “those loud people with the sign of Obama as the Joker are called LaRouchies, and if you ever join up with them you will be deprogrammed” and “those people are political consultants — don’t look directly into their eyes!”
Perhaps a few members of the basically irrelevant Communist Party USA attached themselves to the event, just as Lyndon La Rouche followers do to Tea Party gatherings. Virtually no one cares about these historical relics
Enough of the LaRouche movement has always been raving mad, but now when I was on their website this evening, I found a new record high in bisarrism.  It has even cut up an image in which Paul has a bridal veil on its next president …
I, like Webster, am a former labor committee member. I must say it is refreshing that he was not co-opted by the oligarchy, as so many others have been. Bravo. (Uwe Parpart, Criton Zoakis, David Goldman, to name but a few…)
No Compromise with —
What do the anonymous comments signify?
Which candidate do you support for President in 2012?
Obama, a slew of Republican hopefuls, Lyndon Larouche candidate, Green Party candidate.
Get me off this mailing list. Sheesh — I join up on one cause, and the next thing you know…

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The Larouche Cryonics Movement has a head of its own.

I’ve been emailing him questions and comments since November 2010, astonished at how he has found holes in Larouche’s choice projects, like NAWAPA and fusion.

But waiting for the Apocalypse:

I’ve been reading about the coming ice on Rolf Witzsche’s site. He makes a good argument that the coming ice age is going to wipe us out if we don’t act now.

Is the Lyndon Larouche Cryonics Movement about to become — the Rolf Witzsche Cryonics Movement?

Witzsche takes Larouche a few steps farther into deep reality by pointing out the failure of fusion (Larouche’s favorite idea) and the oncoming ice age (which Laoruche is pretty much ignoring). Witzsche is my new Larouche but we haven’t thrown Larouche economics out.

But… if the earth is going to be wiped out — what’s the point of —

[+] In my quest to live forever, physically and literally, I try a lot of different types of supplements to retard and reverse aging, make me smarter and faster thinking etc. Nothing has worked so far, but you never know what might turn up next. Today it’s QHdrate. I’ll report on results back here once I’ve drunk the whole bottle.

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You will be excited to see the Larouchies wade into the Osama tank.  He knew what happened just minutes after 9/11, you will remember.  Join with us — Israel’s CIA.  Or… something — Dutch something or others.

This seems relevant to — what was that about falling hair somewhere?

Are we supposed to believe that a devil worshipper can serve at the highest levels of the military industrial security complex? Can such claims be credible?
View the video Michael Aquino, Satanic Mind-Control Cults and the Aquino NSA connection to enrich your confidence in the work of the intelligence communities.
Bizarre at the least, but Jeffrey Steinberg of Executive Intelligence Review sheds light on From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory in How Military PsyOps Plan to Control your Mind.

It’s only a matter of time before Princess Kate learns about the Drug Running operation.   Will she be Di-ed?  Perhaps this can help fill brush you up on House of Windsor. (Good work by “One of LaRouche’s trusted analysts, Mr. Tannenbaum”, correlating Princess Di Conspiracy theories.)

Wrap up a few birther things — the LYM made a joke about nobody showing “who released the sperm”.   I guess someone from the contingent of “PUMA”s is still about theres…

La Rouche: “if Barack Obama Sr. was the real father it was purely a coincidence.” (The birth certificate tells us who the mother was. But if the mother was playing the field, then the assertion that Barack Sr. was the father is at best

Funny thing.  In the videos we see the Larouchies still selling their Hillary.  It’s amused me that larouchepub is listed off of the “PUMA” directory.   Does Hillary know that they didn’t catch the “REAL” masterminds behind 9/11?  Is that why she has her hand over her mouth?

Hm.  Ron Paul gets a huge crowd reaction in coming out for the legalization of Heroin.  I don’t stand for that, but — is he a dupe of the Queen of England?

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Iran’s Press TV has had on Lawrence Freeman,   Bill Jones, twice, Jeff Steinberg, twice.  But that’s the “Executive Intelligence Review Watch”, not the Lyndon Larouche Watch — I shouldn’t have even mentioned it.