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European already posted this, but it is worth posting every which way.  Here, available in the Second Edition here, is Dope, Inc endorsing the Protocls of the Elders of Zion, and turn to page 31 to follow along.

Britain’s new instrument of subversion in the United States was controlled elements of Italian and Chinese immigration, combined with the Order of Zion entity that had been in place since 1843. By the turn of the century, the different ethnic networks became so intertwined that, for generic purposes, the name “organized crime” applies to all of them.
The implantation of the ethnic secret societies into the United States is a complex story, but may be centered accurately in a few case histories. One is the way that the family of Sam Bronfman — the man who shipped enough liquor to the United States to double the size of Lake Eric, in the testimony of Lucky Luciano — got to North America. Bronfman’s story begins, in fact, in Romania, where the Order of Zion secret organization achieved its first major victory, a coup d’etat that brought King Charles of Romania to the throne in 1887.  In the years following the Civil War, the Order of Zion merged with the much alder Cult of Mizraem, a centuries-old covert organization that dated back to the days of Genoese and Hapsburg intrigue and assassination.
(21) From the British side. Sir Moses Montefiore. and on the Romanian front itself, American Consul Benjamin Peixotto, aided the local secret society in installing a new monarch. (22)  Peixotto held a leadership position in the American B’nai B’rith and was a member of the Order of Zion.  The Elders of Zion Romania became, in consequence, a nesting place for the most lurid form of Central European covert operations until the Second World War.  The character of the political machine the Order of Zion installed in that country is perhaps best illustrated by the strong support Order of Zion elements gave to the Romanian Green Shirt Nazis, who seized power in Hitler’s wake during the 1930s. (23) Romanian Jews show up prominently in American organized crime, as well as in the terrorist activities of the Israeli secret service, the Mossad.
The Order of Zion was simply the Jewish division of the Most Venerable Order of St. John of Jerusalem, the London-centered chivalric order and secret society, whose members swear — and act on — a blood oath.  A secret meeting in Paris in 1884 yielded the famous minutes of the Order, published under the title, Protocols of the Eiders of Zion. The minutes were intercepted and published by the Russian counterintelligence service, the Okhrana.  (24) Probably, the decision to publish the captured minutes involved retaliation against the Order of Zion’s role in fomenting a sweeping destabilization against the government of Russian Prime Minister Count Witte, whose government fell during the so-called 1905 Revolution. Witte had sought an alliance with Germany and France against Britain on a program that included the industrial development of Russia. The question of the authenticity of the Protocols has been a matter of fierce, even hysterical dispute. The question may be settled with dispatch by a textual comparison between the oaths of the Order of Zion printed in the Protocols, and the blood-curdling oaths sworn by initiates into the fourth Grade of the Knights of Columbus of Mexico, which maintains close ties to the Jesuits and to the Order of St. John of Jerusalem, which reads in part as follows:

(25) 1. ,, in the presence of all-powerful God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist . . . by the belly of the Virgin Mary, the womb of God and staff ox Jesus Christ, I declare and swear that his holiness the Pope is vice regent of Christ and sole and true head of the universal Catholic Church on earth, and in virtue of the keys to do and undo given to your holiness by my savior Jesus Christ, (you) have the power to depose kings and heretics, princes, states, communities and governments and dismiss them from office without risk. . . . I promise and declare that I will, when the opportunity presents itself to me, wage war without quarter, secretly or openly, against all the heretics. Protestant and Mason, such as I may be ordered to do, in order to extirpate them from the race nf earth, and I will not take into account either age, sex or station, and I will hang, burn, strangle and bury alive those infamous heretics: I will cut open the stomachs and wombs of their women and smash the heads of the babies against the rocks and walls, in order to annihilate the execrable race; that when this cannot be done openly, I will secretly employ the poison cut, strangulation, the sword, dagger or bullet, without consideration for the honor, rank, dignity or authority of
the persons, whatever their status in public or private life maybe, such as 1 may be ordered at any time. . .
If I manifest falsity or weakness in my determination, I consent that my brothers and comrade soldiers in the army of the Pope may cut off my hands, my feet and slit my throat from ear to ear. . – .
I promise to execute and fulfill this oath, in testimony, whereof. I take this sacred sacrament of the Eucharist and affirm it even with my name written with the point of this dagger, drenched in my own blood and sealed in the presence of this holy sacrament. Amen. (26)

Romania’s Order of Zion stronghold produced, among other criminal elements, one Yechicl Bronfman, who emigrated to Canada in 1889- Hie circumstances of Bronfman’s emigration are noteworthy. His passage was paid by the de Hirsch family fund for settlements in Canada — which conferred benefits with strings attached. De Hirsch political screening of new immigrants was so precise that a significant number of new
arrivals were sent back without funds, for unreliability. (27), The important features of the arrival of the Italian “Mafia” in the United States are inseparable from the story of the Order of Zion. Mazzini, the sponsor of the Mafia in Italy, reported directly to the most prominent of Britain’s Hofjvden. Prime Minister
Benjamin Disraeli, and received funding from the leading British Hofjvden bankers, Rothschild and Montcfiore. (2$)
Correspondingly, when Mazzini sent his lieutenants into the United States, the veterans of the “Young Italy” movement moved into channels already carved out by the likes of ex- General Pike and B’nai B’rith. The combination of Hofjuden controlled crime networks and the Mafia provided the framework for organized crime on a big-business scale.

And this keeps popping up again and again.

Although the Larouche historians do not say so, it appears that many members of this oligarchy were Jews. Cecil Roth writes: “The trade of Venice was overwhelmingly concentrated in the hands of the Jews, the wealthiest of the mercantile class.” (The History of the Jews in Venice, 1930)
As William Guy Carr points out in Pawns in the Game, both Oliver Cromwell and William of Orange were funded by Jewish bankers. The English Revolution (1649) was the first in a series of revolutions designed to give them world hegemony. The establishment of the Bank of England by William in 1694 was the next crucial step. Behind the facade, England has been a “Jewish” state for over 300 years. (pp.20-24)

Also, “Anwar is Nothing More than a Synoprant for the Jews” — as Michael Billington of Executive Intelligence Review can confirm.  I’m just reporting what the masses are saying about the Larouche org’s work.
The reaction to Steinberg’s appearances on Iran TV are always weird.

Ron Paul’s Newsletter commentaries in the 1990’s and his Quixotic 3rd Party Libertarian bid for Prez in 1978 and the racial overtones remind one of Lyndon LaRouche and these LaRouche wackos outside my U.S. Post Office this past winter.


Most of the species unique to the rain forests are in imminent danger, partly because there is no one to speak up from them.  In contrast, consider the recent controversy over the yew tree, a temperate forest species, one variety of which now grows only in the Pacific Northwest.  The Pacific yew can be cut down and processed to produce a potent chemical, taxol, which offers some promise of curing certain forms of lung, breast, and ovarian cancer in patients who would otherwise quickly die.  It seems an easy choice — sacrifice the tree for a human life — until one learns that three trees must be destroyed for each patient treated, that only specimens more than a hundred years old contain the potent chemical in their bark, and that there are very few of these yews remaining on earth.  Suddenly we must confront some very tough questions.  How important are the medical needs of future generations?  Are those of us alive today entitled to cut down all of those trees to extend the lives of a few of us, even if it means that this unique form of life will disappear forever, thus making it impossible to save human lives in the future?

Al Gore, from Earth in the Balance.   Something along the lines of this happened — this quotation is frequently used — by Limbaughs and Republican congress-members, or that old website “Al Gore or the Unabomber?”.  This diced quote is also found in Larouche’s literature, as I guess you might expect.  It’s a reason only soundbytes can get elected to anything.  There’s a straight line between this area of thought and this story, in the realm of Larouche’s cousin, “Italian government officials have accused the country’s top seismologist of manslaughter, after failing to predict a natural disaster that struck Italy in 2009.”

(Shrug)  ‘Tis why you can never really sympathize with this crap, and view the post Larouche organization as one field of fleighty junk to appeal to this:

Larouche is not paying attention to this and he one article on the Mississippi flood but if you watch the Agenda21 critical awareness sites, then both the floods and this Joplin tornado are consistent with an Agenda21 clearing of human settlements in the area. AND THIS

I know that this is his policy.
My point is that LaRouche’s own actions in the 1980′s and 1990′s have destroyed any credibility he may have had. As long as his name is still attached to this movement it will lack credibility as well. Ir he really believes in this cause, then he will remove his name from it for its own good.
Like it or not, public opinion does matter.
Although I think Lyndon LaRouche is a certifiable nutcase, this video is spot on.

This is one of the few groups which actually grasp the physics of the problem of supplying energy to power an industrial society. If only they would break off from LaRouche and form their own group, they might be taken more seriously by the general public.

If only.  And then there’s this:

Then, everything blew up in his face as a result of his misinterpretation of 9/11— which I tried to to tell him was wrong. Larouche had it right— Kevin thought corporatism got hit on 9/11, when it was actually unrestrained corporatism that helped create the even. During the period in which Kev came under attack for his misinterpretation, I again tried to help him by steering him to Larouche and advising him to take up the Larouche republic line for Canada, and Larouche interpretation of 9/11. I argued that it would make him even more famous but in a positive way. He could retract his misinterpretation and say Larouche set him straight.

So it goes until civilization collapses in a bloody heap as a result of unleashing decades of chaos in this key region, with the British empire still on top. Imagine the British East India Company – a Satanic, oligarchical gang intertwined with the British government – setting sail on an ocean of the blood of its victims, in pursuit of other slaves and victims, and you’ll have an apt symbol for the British Empire. Then read our heroin-pushing “President” Obama’s recent speech before the British Parliament as a fine example of the big lies we’re fed about the same empire.

Yaeh, I’m trying to get a handle on what to expect in the coming year, so coming across all shades of opinion, but mostly doomsday merchants. There’s one guy, by the name of La Rouche who’s predicting the worst crash since the 1400s or something. Gets a bit tiresome.

Howie G versus eco-nazis.

A link to the La Rouchies, fer chrissakes! I subsequently failed to renew my subscription to CounterPunch – though I still thinks it’s a resource with some great writing. But I have never felt the same about the mans pronouncements

As a little reminder of the ongoing work of the merchants of doubt, a small band of five or six “climate sceptic” protesters were gathered outside the symposium, some of whom flown in from Berlin. Their pamphlet identified them as part of the longstanding anti-climate-science campaign of US billionaire Lyndon Larouche and claimed that climate change is “a hoax” and an “insane theory”, the global temperature measurements are “mere lies”, the Nobel laureates meeting “a conspiracy” and the Stockholm Memorandum a “Fascist Manifesto”. I approached one of the protesters who carried a banner “against Green fascism” and asked him whether he seriously believes what his pamphlet says, namely that our meeting is a “symposium for global genocide”. He nodded emphatically and replied: “Yes, of course!”

‘Science makes clear that we are transgressing planetary boundaries that have kept civilization safe for the past 10,000 years.’ I do not agree. ‘Safe’ is not a scientifically defined term. It is cultural and moral. I have tried to explain above a couple of examples of why I think these questions are not yet ‘clear’. Everyone is entitled to their political and moral views. Unlike many climate skeptics I have no problem with scientists participating in public debate. We need more public intellectuals. But crude scientism, presenting political conclusions as proven by science is a big problem.
So far as I can see it is also a the main source of popular climate skepticism – far bigger than LaRouche.

The Pentagon now seems to be acknowledging and strategizing around GW.

This should help to counter the lie that it is a “liberal hoax.” At what point does someone become prosecutable for spreading lies that put peoples lives in danger, not to mention entire ecosystems?

Lyndon LaRouche is a billionaire?

What is to be done?

Pick up some LaRouche propaganda from your local LaRouchies and leave it on a couple of seats at the antivax conferences. This will either a) get some of them interested in LaRouche, thereby cross-pollinating between two nut trees, or b) cause those who are aware of LaRouche and creeped out by him, to feel highly uncomfortable with “LaRouchies showing up at our conference.”
You could also have someone go in undercover and recruit for the local LaRouchie organization. Do it overtly for example by “asking questions” that link vaccination to the various conspiracies the LaRouchies are always blabbering about. Alternately you can go in there spreading 9/11 truther stuff, or “we never landed on the Moon” stuff, or any other conspiracy theory you choose. Just be sure to read up on the one you’re going to spread, so you can do an expert job with it, and come off as a True Believer in both that stuff and the anti-vax stuff.
If someone claims that black helicopters are hovering over his house, sending black helicopters to hover over his house just proves him right. If someone believes mysterious strangers are trying to use mind-control devices on him, putting unidentified disruptive devices at his meetings proves him right. If someone believes he will be persecuted for his antivax beliefs, sending apparent undercover agents to spy and report on him proves him right. It may be ever so funny to see antivaxxers running around thinking that your psy-ops are the work of the One World Government, but the fact remains that they would be absolutely right to believe that they were the subjects of psy-ops by enemies.

Just the kind of subversice kick that Erin B was on, right?


Perhaps this is all you really need to know about the new “Factnet (mostly) Watch” blog, named after “Justice for Jeremiah“.  This is their avatar, the face of the movement I guess:

I suppose there is a good way of measuring ranks in terms of how big one’s name gets in the taglines.  But by that measurement, the biggest friend of Queen Elizabeth is Captain Frank.  It figures.  The org reposted this item, and I guess I see no reason not to post it here — with one correction:

A couple weeks ago, I went down the previous 500 “Ace” posts and came down to this 21 day line-up. (This was a quick enough count that it might not add up to 500 — I just wanted to get the general idea.)

13-May 39+    12-May 39   11-May 8   10-May 9   9-May 9   8-May 2   7-May 16
6-May 29    5-May 31    4-May 20    3-May 22    2-May 11   1-May 26   30-Apr 17
29-Apr 14   28-Apr 30   27-Apr 74   26-Apr 64  25-Apr 12   24-Apr 12   23-Apr 16+

I imagine the last week would veer closer to the above 40 range than the below a dozen. I can’t picture myself posting any more than 8, and that would be an extreme outlier if I were sucked into a discussion on something.
It was a “Rapid Response” system that included posting replies of “Oh goody [fill in the blank] is online and about to post”, a lot of crypto-threats (told Peter Tenenbaum “I’m keeping a scrap-book”), and pushing unrelated articles about Tony Blair (not even bothering contextualizing to the Larouchian view that Larouche is somehow involved — ’cause its self-evident.)
The most superficial end point came with Ace’s “I own this forum” and link to the youtube video on trolling. That’s essentially a challenge of “What are you going to do about it?” — I have seen a board administrator respond to that by changing all of a troll’s posts to some gratuitous self-insult.

Curiously, the blog’s response has it in the frame of me, a dismissive reference, “Playing Detective”.

We see more of the stylings of the Larouche org with the response to this funny piece by Erin B.  In this case, they refer to Erin B as having mental problems, and then say King is laughing at a Schizophrenic.  I suppose we now have a feeler on how the post-factnet dynamic will proceed, as the blog later finds validation in and posts Xandafur’s post.

It turned out that she had been hiding severe psychological problems, and that she was being heavily medicated. I honestly felt sorry for her, and I wish I could have helped, regardless of anything to do with LaRouche. I tried, and failed.

Respecting Xandafur’s “reach out” — I hardly trust this cult with sensitivity toward (minor or major) mental illnesses — one which does a good job of trivializing such by using it as a slur (honestly understood to be the case) to everyone from the Puerto Rican Socialist Party to Michael Dukakis.  (Enduring Question — in some of those joint causes done by the Larouchies as well as the Rev Moon’s Washington Times, the latter gets cited.  It is, I guess, a suggestion on how Larouche will be remembered.)  The Dope, Inc book suggests that the un-raveling of Western Civilization began with Ken Kesey’s One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, which taught that that “the people out there are the crazy ones” (I’m paraphrasing from memory.)  “No comment?”
But, you know — Tavistock!  And this is sort of the public view on some matters here:

Although the idea of being brainwashed is frightening, some people voluntarily undergo brainwashing-type activities. Followers of Lyndon LaRouche, a political activist, underwent a process he called “ego-stripping” that involved emotional abuse. LaRouche wanted to make his subjects feel like there was nowhere safe for them except in his movement. People administering ego-stripping insulted and belittled their colleagues, friends, and partners on every topic they could think of. LaRouche believed, at one point, that a member of his movement had been implanted with the idea to assassinate him. He recorded his ego-stripping session with the man. The recordings of the sessions indicate that the subjects were deprived of food and receiving electric shocks, adding physical pain to the sense of isolation and worthlessness. Not only did the man confess, but large segments of Larouche’s followers claimed that they had been brainwashed by the CIA or the East German secret police and programmed to kill. None of those claims were substantiated by psychologists.

Anyway, Erin B’s piece is funny, and informative.  I recommend it.  Since the cult has the reaction it gave to it, I guess you can up my recommendation to a “Highly Recommended”.

More youtube commentings:  jasonjasonjason1 says: Wow! Good thing you’re monitoring comments or otherwise sane people might say something true and your cult members might get savvy! Nice thinking Jim Jones.
Laroucheisright says: Jason: can you post the phone number where a person could get on Libeling LaRouche for 15$ per hour.

The news cannot be understood as it should be without the Classical Humanist frame of reference that Larouche has created over the past 40 years. And our personal lives are not divorced from the news as correctly interpreted, although most people try to live their private lives as if they can’t do anything about the big picture– as if understanding reality has no value. That’s bad citizenship and multiplied across a population, crashes that civilization. The first step in civilized behavior is to uphold the best civilized awareness of the big picture.

But that doesn’t stop his believers, who form an indescribably strange cult. It’s hard to overstate the insanity required to belong: first, you have to believe in visibly insane things, for instance that Lyndon LaRouche was only convicted of tax evasion and wire fraud because Oliver North brainwashed the judge, jury, and court reporters.
Second, because the traditional political divide entirely disappears with LaRouche. He began on the extreme left, but more out of vogue than anything else; his rhetoric has always been characterized by loopy authoritarianism. The Democratic Party has forever refused to have anything to do with him, and he has bent further to the right with each passing year as he seeks the new “libertarian” identifier

Here’s European on Jeremiah Duggan.


The Larouche Wikipedia Team would like to change the line about “moving to the far right” with “sough alliances with” etc etc — including “The Reagan Administration”.  The comedy comes in the form of the Larouche Wikipedia Team’s suggestion that a consensus was made based on a 2 to 1 — which is a 66.6666 percent — opinion.  All matters up for some mediation, and we will see this work out somehow or other.

Frankly, this new intro is something of a travesty.  I don’t know how you can say that their new opinion expressing support for the Protocls of the Elders of Zion does not represent a move to the “far right”.  But we are moved into some of that typical “right and left are false dichotemy” arguments being made (by non-Larouche wikipedians — to a certain point a better frame, but limiting itself.  “Unintentional Comedic Irony of Mamatass Fascists for Che“.

Here’s the Wikipedia Review on the matters –take it away HK: However, if Wikipedia is ever going to become something like an encyclopedia, instead of “the biggest and most prolific defamation machine that the world has ever known,” something must be done to check the unrestricted use of news media as sources, especially for BLPs.  We also see some conspiracy in action at that link.

Hm.  I don’t know the answer to this question:
With what sort of outre poetic sentiment may we not then agree with LaRouche that time is not mere sequential happenstance but a function by which we enrich retrodictively the contributions of humanity’s better angels?


Some activists go to a town hall with Congressman John Larson (D,1, CT).  While the Larouche org will react by penning something like this:  Watch Diane Sare put New Jersey Governor Chris Christie to shame as she intervenes with the LaRouche program at a public meeting held by the governor on Thursday, the Republican activists have this going for them:

We rocked him for two hours.  He came in very partisan, placing blame for all things wrong with the economy at the feet of GWB and the Republicans.  Would not recognize the unsustainability of Medicare.  Plenty of class warfare against the rich – disgusting.  We interrupted him, corrected him and motivated plenty of seniors to chime in early.  His straight-faced solution for Medicare is eliminate fraud/waste, contain costs, and go back to the Clinton tax rates.  Most of the questions were critical.  There were even a group of LaRouche people giving him hell about the bailouts.  He didn’t expect it going in, but he got an earful.  He can be nasty, we’ve seen it before – he raises his voice dictatorial style – Mussolini would be proud – ha!  Hopefully he’ll re-tool for the next one cause from his team’s perspective this had to be a disaster.  We took video and that should circulate over the weekend.

This particular group of Republican activists need to get out of bed with Larouche right now. Lest this happen, following with people such as:

Tell them eagerly that you have a bunch of friends who would be interested in their message, and help yourself to as much of their propaganda as you can get without having to make a donation.
Then take it to a Republican event and hand it out there.
They’ll eat it up because it’s anti Obama.
Then one of two things happens.
a) They freak out when they discover they’ve been LaRouched, or,
b) they start promoting LaRouchism thereby neutralizing their effectiveness with undecideds and with a decent chunk of Republicans as well.

I don’t talk to cult members. And I keep walking.
I hate libertarian shills!
Which reminds me….so I was at the post office and started talking to a man with a literature table outside the building. He was talking about getting wise to how the President (he called him “Obama”) was double crossing the people who voted for him.
So I engaged him in conversation and some of the things he said made sense, some were off the wall and then he started talking about using the 25th amendment to have the President declared incompetent and removed from office.
It was at that point that I noticed (my eyes widening in horror) that the literature on his table bore the name “Larouche”.
Being polite it took me about 15 seconds to wrap up the discussion and skedaddle out of there.

Close & Goodnight: Glenn says, “Thanks so much for joining us tonight, and remember to tune in to the show tomorrow for…”
2. “My exclusive interview with an angry chimpanzee dressed as Lyndon LaRouche.”

That would be more like it.

Interesting.  A CEC “Media Release” to such media as the famed “Thank You White Knights Blogspot” source.

The public reacts to news of the Seattle Intervention unwinding:  A 71 year-old Edmonds man pleaded guilty to assaulting (read: grabbing wrist and pushing) two backwater LaRouche supporters who had a poster of Obama-as-Hitler. The man, an Armenian immigrant who lost family to the Nazis, stated “I think I did the right thing…” No, I have to disagree, sir. You should have dragged the knuckleheads into a train car nearby. That, would be doing the right thing, in my book. I do not coeone that.
Buy this on Ebay!  “The Immortality of Martin Luther King” 

I have no idea what this is. A few years ago i was approached by a few people in the Subway and they offered me anti Bush literature and this DVD for $20. I signed up for some mailing list and they kept calling me. I read online that they were some sort of cult. I don’t think that’s true, but they are definitely some type of small political movement. After a few months of my turning them away, they finally stopped calling me.

The original price on the DVD is $25 dollars. That seems like a pretty unreasonable price to pay for a homeade DVD and since i had it for a few years i’m selling it cheap.

Please don’t contact me if your a larouchite. I don’t care about making a profit for or becoming a larouche-o-bot. Thank you.


Last month, a 29-year-old Daly City man who had set up an anti-Obama table with political literature and signs was attacked in the 1200 block of Fell Street.
Two suspects approached the victim, tore one of the signs and shook the table, causing the political literature to fall to the ground.
A witness said the victim was a supporter of Lyndon LaRouche, a fringe political activist who opposes the president. LaRouche supporters are known to promote their cause by featuring Obama-with-Hitler-mustache posters.

LaRouche , who’s in his 80’s , was once a ‘street fighting’ man and did once belong to the American Communist Party , briefly…They would tend more toward Anarcho-syndicalist , if any thing , by definition and are most certainly ‘not right wingers’ in opposition’ to Obama.

Coming soon:  a photograph of the Fight taking place in Beacon.  And so goes the Post Office Tour.

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