I have turned off the comments section for the duration of a month. Comments do trickle in from time to time, and I enjoy them. I do not enjoy the spam comments, which until this blog is moved to different software cannot anymore be filtered out with any real efficiency as the “banned” shaft is full and bulging over.

Last week, I received an email from a college newspaper concerning Lyndon Larouche. I probably should take this moment to explain some things about Lyndon Larouche’s role on this blog, then cut and paste it over to a link to the sidebar.

#1: I am not nor have I ever been a member of any Lyndon Larouche Group.

#2: I have received and I imagine I will continue to receive comments from people who are currently or have previously been involved in a Lyndon Larouche Group. There seemed to be some confusion about the matter from the college newspaper writer, and I may well go back and edit Larouche related posts to make clearer that I am reposting other people’s words.

#3: I frequently post as an entry comments from people making warning sirens on Lyndon Larouche. I frequently write entries commenting on comments from Larouchites, and perhaps my last Larouche post — which was full of obscure references meant to irk a Larouchite who had commented previously, was not opaque enough — particularly for anyone “out of the loop” here.

#4: I consider Lyndon Larouche a cult leader. That is the reason I bump up comments such as “paultony”‘s or “Scott’s”, “Scott’s Comment” seems to have opened up a great deal on this topic (relative to the reach of this blog).

#5: The result of which is I constantly waver between an attitude of mockery to a more serious attitude of concern.

I’ll come up with another five or seven statements to round this up to an even 10 or 12. Feel free to email me on the subject, an email address somewhere on the sidebar I believe.

I spent Sunday morning looking over the newspaper, not really reading it because I couldn’t stop thinking about what a Fascist Plato truly was. I folded the newspaper up, put it away and indulged in a puzzle that has been intriguing me lately. Having long since grown tired of doubling the square, I moved on to the act of tripling the square.

I then pondered the Second Law of Thermodynamics as presented in the famous Beatles lyrics “And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make make.”

I thought about the blog post or posts I would be posting when I sat down at the computer. I had in my mind the amusing anecdote of a woman giving her personal thumbs down to Terrorists. Beyond that, what did I have? “You know,” I thought. “I haven’t posted about Landon LaRoach in a while. But why would I?” Just to keep the meter moving, I suppose.

July 17, to be more precise. And then it was only reposting a comment left from an earlier post regarding Landon LaRoach. As it turned out, a comment had just been left — a lone comment amongst 300 or so spam comments that I was obliged to delete as the system of banning these things had broken down a couple months ago — but the name “Tom Paine II” managed to poke through the endless “Penis Pumper Daddy”s.

Who the original Tom Paine decided to mold his entire mind toward escapes me at the moment.

“paultony” should learn English before trying to clumsily write this utter nonsense, full of grammatical, syntactical, orthographic errors and typos, to say nothing of the evident and obvious ignorance he displays, of what LaRouche has been, and is saying and writing, over the years.

I remember thinking about correcting paultony’s typographical errors, but deciding not to. At the very least, I was not about to correct his misspelling of Landon LaRoach, Lyndon Laroache, as I’ve developed a soft spot for misspellings of the man’s name. An example can be found with Tom Paine II’s post, Lyndon LaRouche.

Anyway, get ready for the new Dark Age. There’s a company in Utah that sold some good canned good supplies in large enough quantities to suffice. They did a great deal of business during the Y2K scare of 1998 to 1999. I’ll leave it at that.

I belive that Lyndon Laroache is capable of murder.Please let me explain this. I was with Lyndon Laroache for over thirty years. I watch him change, He started out being for labor and trying to start a labor party, then came the eightys he want to restore the new deal programs of FDR and the manhattan project I supported him in this. He tried to have Kissnger throw in prison. Lyndon Laroache claims that Kissinger tried to kill him and that Kissinger had to stop at any cost. Then the 1990’s came He wanted to end George HW Bush. He started what he called the Lets get Bush, and expose Bush. He started renew attacts and started the youth movement. He came up with Euro land bridge, The new Brittany Wooods confernce. My job was to sell this to the public, wish I did. When Clinton became president Laroache wented to have Gore ousted and replace him with him. I had to tried to oust Gore, at any cost.

Laroache thought he would be closing to becoming president. Then came the year 2000 He thought he could take over the democrated party. When he run for president he changed, he moved against labor, he was no longer wanted to help the working poor. He later endorsed Kerry. I soon left.

People can leave Laroache it is very hard to do so. Here are some tips to help you.

1 Don’t go to any meeting or briefings
2 Don’t hang out were you used to go.
3 monitor your phone calls and don’t aruge with them over politics. Hang up.
4 Have people drive you around
5 Stay with friends or family they will come.
6 Don’t let their name calling get to you.
7 Don’t send them money or give them your bank account. This was my mistake.
8 Don’t feel guity for leaving, Lyndon Laroache is not saving the world.

I want to help as many people as I can leave. When I left I got called many names. I found a dead rabbit in my yard, and other things. Lyndon Laroache never save the world. Once the money runs out, he won’t use you. I was told I was selling his ideas. I was told to read only what he wrote, they told me that I should not go to college, because he had the true meaning of life, and I should give him the money instead. I took I was saving the world. I had to called people and collect money from them, forget about their health, instead do what was best for huminity, that was raising money for Laroache.

I was supporte of Lyndon Laroache for about 20 years it all started in
1979. I wish I never gotten involved with them. He was a Leon Trostsey
supporter. He stared the Labor movement I voted for him and handed out
phampets in local postal offices. I give them money for his articles
on Cheney The Children of Satan. I broke from them in 2005 after he
took all my money from me. I now realize I been lied to. I’m not shock
to learn that people are being use and taken advantage from through his
youth movements. He teaches hate all babyboomers and their culture and
music. He supported Kerry a pro war candiate. He move away from what
he stood for. I talk to them about Leon Troskey they called Leon
Troskey a sex pervert. I told them that was strange when Lyndon Laroache in
the 1970’s supported him. They called me a babyboomer and bunch of
names. I read WSWS web sites and sounded like Lyndon Laroach was ripping
them off. I need help getting my money back from them.

The problem with “SIC” is that it’s not technically correct, or at least not the root problem. “TIC” is closer, but type-writers are not in use here. There is no typing. I have never taken a typing class; I took a Keyboarding class. Thus I settle on “KIC”.

Except, as the case turns out, I am incorrect about the whole sordid mess.

The LaRouche comment came to the entry on “Scott’s Comment”, a post “Justice for Jeremiah” chose to post.

In the meantime, and I note this in the referrals, I have really only a couple of LaRouche questions at the end of the day.

#1: Why does Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, et al, possess any more power in the political sphere than LaRouche does? This thought popped into my mind anew when Pat Robertson’s dietary shake, and ability to leg-press one ton, came into the news. It’s… sort of the same money siphoning thingy.

#2: What will happen to the Larouche Mass Movement when Larouche dies? Scientology, for example, can go on past the life of L Ron Hubbard, ideas — such as they are — in check, the whole thing incorporated, someone else at CEO. But the nature of LaRouche suggests LaRouche needs to be running for the highestoffice every four years, to save mankind, to perpetuate itself — tiding over the four years with this crusade or that crusade, LaRouche keeping up with his writings and lectures. Are you going to annoit a new LaRouche? Or will the whole affair factionalize itself, each deciding on different “heirs” to Larouche, perhaps one deciding there can be no new Lyndon Larouche, and thus tiding their days in devotional prayer to the almighty? Maybe there will suddenly be a Larouchite Primary contest to decide who will be running for president every four years… diversity of opinion within the sphere of the now doctrine-giverless Larouchite brigade spilling over the whole group — just how do you double the square, and is it okay if I kind of like the early Beatles tunes?

Walking out of Borders, in the corner of my eye where the Clearance Shelves by the exit/entrance door I saw that the LaRouchites had stashed a bunch of the latest Lyndon LaRouche pamphlet — suggested donation $5 — my experience tells me that you can’t grab it from someone who’s waving it at you without the demand of $5, which makes the LaRouchite different from the Scientologist, evangelical Christian, or “Jews for Jesus” pamphleters (but then again, they don’t hand out any literature more substantive than — say — a Jack T Chick tract), but ubiqutious enough to the point where if someone really wants one they’ll find it for free wherever the LaRouchites decided to stick it — in this case, in the front door of the Borders store. In the end, their need to evangelize meets up with their need to raise money.

After my double take, I walked over, grabbed the whole batch of LaRouche pamphlets, and without missing a beat, without looking over as I opened the door, dumped them in the garbage can that sits right outside of Borders.

As the race for the Texas Democratic Party Chair comes to a head, check out the LaRouchite ‘s answers to the questions. Leaving aside the sort of hazy sloganeering, I notice some turns of phrase that were obviously derived from LaRouche.

#1: We must do as Franklin Roosevelt did, reach out to those in the lower 80% of familty income brackets.

#2: I am prepared to take Texas “Out of the Bushes and into the Future.”, LaRouche derived from Jesse Jackson, but what are you going to do?

#3: These are democrats who served the nation well because they understood the importance of taking policy discussion outside of the inner sanctums of the Democratic party and out of the financial hands of scandrels like Feliz Rohaytan, into the hands of the people. Two for Tuesday! “inner sanctums” and “financial hands of scandrels” [SIC} like ahem “Feliz Rohaytan.

#1b: to the lower 80% of familty income brackets

#4: I have hit the pavement day in, and day out, as a leader of the most potent political force in the nation, the LaRouche Youth Movement, in the fight to bring down the infamous “Hammer” Tom Delay. […] I have been in the center of the fight to bring down Dick Cheney and the entire neocon appratus.

#5: Lakesha is a breath of fresh air from the same old baby boomer men that always end up running.

I’m a bit confused. When we “reach every Texan”, including the “lower 80% of familty income brackets” 80 percent? EIGHTY? Why not 85% or 75%?, are we going to exclude the baby boomers?

Maybe “cutoffdickcheney” will enjoy the fact of another LaRouche entry?

Meehaps.

As for the LaRouchites being “surprisingly tuneful”, they are. And, they do practice their singing at LaRouche Camp, aka Cadre Schools… When I attended one of these cult like weekend getaways, I saw them practice endlessly. That’s pretty much all they did the one day I stayed. They where practicing from like 8 in the morning to 12, then there was this “representative” who would give a class on Schiller or Plato (one of those) for 7 (SEVEN!) hours, then they where singing again… All they sing is opera and Negro Spirituals for some fucking reason. And don’t even think about talking rock and roll music in front of them, to them, or in “The House of LaRouche”, you may as well fart in their faces cause they find it highly offensive. And I am not kidding that when they sang the “Battle Hymn of the Republic” they changed the lyric of “my eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord” to “my eyes have seen the glory of the coming of LaRouche”! That was so creepy! For a moment I thought ‘o Lord, they’re gonna feed us apple sauce or Kool-aid laced with arsenic once they’ve brainwashed us all’…

Last comment, I promise… Did you know LaRouche lives on a million dollar farm property in Virgina? My long lost friend who “found” Larouche and disappeared, was once bragging about how when he went to a so-called National Conference (LaRouche) he and a bunch of other wide-eyed new coming youngsters where invited to his property for his birthday party. Anyway, he told me it was nice but that on their way there, they where BLINDFOLDED so they could not see the exact location of Larouche’s property! How paranoid can you get? This man thinks “They” are out to get him. Folks, I cannot stress enough how much time and sanity you’ll save by not even bothering to argue with them…. Just overturn their literature table like the students so often do at the local college!

It’s been a while since I’ve ventured into the realm of Lyndon LaRouche, so I will go ahead and venture into that realm.

The LaRouchites were standing on one of their standard corner in downtown Portland yesterday. I neglected to check to see what their “provocative” sign said. There was a man arguring passionately with the LaRouchites. I wondered about this. What could be said, what could be had, what could be accomplished? Did he leave the scene feeling as though there had been a meeting of the minds or a fruitful and productive exchange of ideas — or did he leave the scene feeling flustered and frustrated?

Meanwhile, in Houston, history is being made. Corruption having been uncovered, the head of Enron passing the buck in every direction he can think of, and the court case proceeds apace.

As closing arguments began Monday in the trial of former Enron Corp. chieftains Kenneth L. Lay and Jeffrey K. Skilling, a prosecutor described the defendants as arrogant and self-serving executives who acted as if they alone owned the company they had helped to build.

But in fact, Assistant U.S. Atty. Kathryn H. Ruemmler told the jury, it was thousands of Enron employees and other shareholders who owned the energy company and were entitled to honesty and fair treatment from Lay and Skilling — not the “outright lies” and accounting “trickery” the government alleges they got. Of the ordinary shareholders, including three who testified during the 15-week trial, Ruemmler said: “It was their Enron. It wasn’t Mr. Lay’s Enron. It wasn’t Mr. Skilling’s Enron.”

And the LaRouchites prove that they are not entirely worthless.

At lunchtime, a group of about a dozen supporters of frequent presidential candidate Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr. serenaded the defendants and others exiting the courthouse with a surprisingly tuneful song mocking Enron’s downfall.

I hate to say this, but in what is supposed to be a straight unbiased news article, some editorial comment has slipped through… that phrase being “surprisingly tuneful”. I suggest that there is no surprise… the LaRouchites practice their tunes at LaRouche Camp — Chior Practice is part of their regiment, it would appear.

As these things go, from the sphere of the Michael Medved Show, On one show last week, I heard him try (respectfully) to understand the position of one caller who reminded me of the LaRouche people I run into every few years (he mentioned BCCI, which I think the LaRouchies still care about, and something else rang a bell).

BCCI. Enron. Who cares about BCCI these days? It’s possible that you’ve never heard of or have long forgotten about BCCI. I only know about it from reading a bit into the political career of John Kerry during his presidential run — one of the few highlights of an otherwise staid and unremarkable career. In a number of years, we may shirk Enron into the same land of fogotten arenas as BCCI. The Larouchites, for what it is worth, are good at at least tossing names that fade away into the past of importance to the sphere of the development of our current World Politic. It is part of LaRouche’s pshyce of imagined grudges. What the world needs now is to remember Zbigniew Brzezinski. At any rate, there’s this degree to which Enron may reveal a facade to the entire American Economy. BCCI exposed a facade in the entire Global Economy. They matter, to some extent, though I guess it is hard to keep railing against them. Something new will come down the pike in a few years.

Meanwhile, I have a correction to make to this editorial about the good fortunes of Senator Bill Nelson in ending up with the Republican opponent Katherine Harris, and the desparation of the Republican party in trying to nudge an “Allan Bense” into the race instad:

Uh, Allan Bense, a candidate with less name recognition than the state’s executioner and starting with less money in the coffers than Lyndon LaRouche, would have ended the race as the Anne Boleyn of the Panhandle with his head handed to him by Nelson.

Lyndon LaRouche is actually quite wealthy, and nearing the dawn of the Iowa Caucuses and New Hampshire primary was either first or second (I don’t remember, but Harper’s Index made note of it) in total campaign donations and funds. He has a cult following, you see.
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UPDATE: I accidentally deleted this comment message:
Do you type LaRouche in the Google search engine everyday? Damn, your
obsessed man, when are you going to get it over with and join thier
movement already. 🙂

The answer to that question is — I have his name keyed.

When the LaRouchies hand out their literature supporting a return to an “FDR – type New Deal Program”, this is the public works projects that they have in mind — which will save the nation during the upcoming American Financial Collapse, and apprently the world during the upcoming World World Financial Collapse. I always assumed it was simply the meme the cult used to attract disenfranchised liberal Democrats, along the lines of Tommy Franks’s book, in the same way the cult in the 80s supported fascist measures to curb the burgeoning AIDS crisis. (actually similar to what Fidel Castro did in Cuba, and while Castro is generally seen as a “leftwing” Dictator, I’ll just say: meh.) But apprently the rhetoric is indeed in support of something insane LaRouche has worked up for that fateful day he will rule the world.

Plato would approve, I assume.

I’m a bit surprised I haven’t stuck this link on the sidebar yet: http://www.justiceforjermiah.com.

I still haven’t gotten around to compiling news articles of their 1980s California ballot initiatives, which would have made public the names of AIDs patients. I will do that eventually, jib-jabbing between my joking and seriousness looks at LaRouche and his followers… replete with that occasional “Here’s something odd they’re trying to do with a wikipedia entry”.

Anyway… from a “Chardonnay”:

I hate Larouche and his followers. They are a fucking cult. My friend
who is 25, dropped out of college and joined them and in doing so, they
told him to sever ties with me because I was not “open to their ideas”.
The way they go about doing things is very erratic also. They disturb
classes at the local college with their regular “demonstrations” and
they go so far as to harass students who don’t take their literature or
who refuse to make a donation. I was one of them. I was headed to
class and a girl stopped me. She was very nice and started talking to me
about the economy and all these paranoid conspiracies. I was polite and
listened but when I declined to give her my info and take a pamphlet
she got nasty. As I walked away, she said “so you’re a guns n’ roses
fan, huh? That would explain the skanky look”, I was wearing a GNR shirt,
you see. They are very good at making insulting below the belt remarks.
Since then, there have been many students who have complained to the
dean and asked him to prevent them from coming onto the campus, but like
cockroaches, they just keep coming back hoping to find someone else to
brainwash. That being said, my very good friend simply disappeared out
of my life and his parents are also quite concerned because he also cut
ties with them at the Larouchies suggestion that they where trying to
“disorganize” him. Larouche himself is a paranoid, psychotic, fascist. I
would advise people to not even pay attention to them in the streets.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that they hold these “cadre schools”
which is a trip they take up to the mountains for a weekend full of
“enlightening, earth shattering ideas”. Anyway, my pal dragged me to one of
these once and all they do is talk about the golden ration, the
doubling of the square, the British royal family (it’s so funny, they claim
the queen is a drug smuggler lol), and all these conspiracies and how
Larouche is the only one who can make a difference. After this cadre
school, I NEVER wanted to know about them ever again and I along with five
other people took off. When they started talking about rock music, one
of the members said that he had hoped they’d make John Lennon’s day of
assasination a holiday, we said screw it and drove off in my car. One
guy tried to stop us and told us “if you leave, you will have the
deaths of hundreds of palestinian children on your conscience.” This people
are crazy and they use cult tactics to recruit people. I strongly suggest everyone to not even bother with them.