Archive for the 'The LaRouche Challenge' Category

Wake me up when World War 3 is over.

Wednesday, December 14th, 2011

Rick Potvin lays down the Larouche line on the Demonstrations in Russia.
My comment: Clearly , this is more British subversion intended to destabilize Russia. This is the value of reading Larouche. All other mainstream media are complicit in the destabilization by failing to report the essential features of what’s going on as Larouche does.

There’s a few things that are curious with this.  Recent larouchie deployments have shown a renewed focus on Hillary Clinton for President, with a suggestion of support for one of those wary Hillary Clinton primary campaigns against the Hitlerite tool of British interests, Barack Obama.

And Hillary Clinton has chimed in with a one of these things.

Sec. Clinton listed out a specific claim that election observers were thwarted in attempts to monitor the Russian elections. She argued that ‘independent Russian election observers, including the nationwide Golos network, were harassed and had cyber attacks on their websites, which is completely contrary to what should be the protected rights of people to observe elections, participate in them, and disseminate information.’ This is another allegation tossed at Putin’s ruling party.

Clinton concluded that the ‘Russian people, like people everywhere, deserve the right to have their voices heard and their votes counted. And that means they deserve fair, free, transparent elections and leaders who are accountable to them.’ This provoked a strong response from Putin and his allies.

Putin fired back that Clinton ‘set the tone for some of our public figures inside the country, sent a signal to them. They heard this signal and launched active work with the U.S. State Department’s support.’ Putin accused the United States of organizing and setting the stage for the large protests.

If there were any intellectual honesty in the cult, this would set up the biggest crisis in the Lyndon Larouche Movement since Summer Shields was unable to obtain ballot access in California, or since the failed prediction about 20 dollar bread loafs.  It appears that their love for Vladimir Putin outstrips their love for the Clintons — must be taken in by those shirtless photo ops he made

and the Putin loving is curious in a way, since one of the larouchie deployments had a call out to an Obama supporter that she was just for Obama because she wants to have sex with him.  See too the Get Out the Vote ads that Vladimir Putin’s party ran on Russian tv.

We’ll just have to see how this story develops, and how they’ll rationalize  the inconsistencies of Hillary Clinton’s hawkisheness and concern for developments in Russia — “Was It Hillary’s Error?” lest it embarrass Jeffrey Steinberg’s “Desperately Seeking Hillary“, and make themselves available to Russia Today, and to PUMA outlets.

Odd thing about Russia Today — Larouche was cut off on his second appearance, when even they couldn’t stand for his insanity.  He did get a third appearance on, but I suppose it’s better now to swirl down the list of EIR.

Jeff Steinberg of E.I.R. discusses the central role that LaRouche has played to catalyze a global resistance to the British plans for thermonuclear World War III.
Yeah.  And the org has declared War On Christmas — and all the other Holidays.

Christmas is Cancelled: Stop the Threat of Thermonuclear War
by Rachel Brown (Congressional Candidate in Massachusetts.)

To continue with one’s holiday fantasies, and say “It’s not the time to be political,” is no different than those political leaders and citizens who maintain that Hitler could be voted out in the next election, or who today say, “It’s not the time to remove Obama.” The fantasy that Obama can remain in office, and that WWIII will wait, is just that, and cannot be tolerated. All signs point to the immediate danger of thermonuclear war and dictatorship, including Obama’s recent attack on Hillary Clinton to sabotage her work on the U.S.-Russia relationship and provoke a hostile reaction from Russia, and his demand that American citizens be able to be arrested and held without legal counsel. Recent “explosions” in Iran, troop buildup in the region, and reports of U.S. covert activities in Iran, demonstrate the ongoing determination to “create” an incident which would launch WWIII. The time by which the British must do it, driven by the collapse of the European system, is now
.

And now some commentary from a Larouche linker on this coming WW3:
In the 30’s England and Jewry (If there is a difference) sought to destroy Nationalism in Europe, squaring up to their opponent, then starting a(nother) World War after getting slapped the fuck down. Now the Anglo-Jewry changed Germany with Iran. The England of the Middle East, Israel, squaring up to the Germany of the same, Iran. Their hubris will lead an attack that’ll backfire. Of course the useful idiots are no longer Communists waves played off by these twin-vampires, rather American beefcakes who aren’t engineered to enter the breach in the same way. There is no tsunami of endless Russian rapists this time around, rather a multicult Burger-King army whose lack of eagerness can only mean pressing the cheat button.

Some comedy gold from Howie G.  Igor Panarin, ladies and gentlemen.  Maybe this guy can be put in charge of the Russian Larouche Movement?

This guy needs to get on the right page.  Hillary Clinton is not the enemy here.

II.
December 11 National Webcast, as posted to “Peninsula Virginia Tea Party” thingy.

The subject of the Symposium was “Mankind in the Galaxy: Will You Permit the Extinction of the Human Species?”, of which Lyndon LaRouche’s presentation was the final part.

Yeah.  Well.  Apathy reigns in the fight against Human Extinction.  We see this by public reaction to the Fight to save humanity from the org.

Kick Obama out of office on grounds of insanity as La Rouche suggests in his video on youtube.com or look up his website!
Will do, Pat.

“6 billion must die”
Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, aka Lyndon LaRouche … discussing the mindset of the Queen of England and rulers of Europe on the Alex Jones radio show
a mind that can destroy its own ….
HUNT DOWN THE ROTHSCHILDS (Every Fu&%ing One Of Them) AND AFFORD THEM THE LUXURY OF REMOVING THEIR HEADS FROM THEIR BODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hm.
After years of listening to these men [larouche and tarpley] lead us around by the nose, I finally gave up on them. I am unlearned and therefore just a bit more FREE, alive and awake.
Interesting stuff.  Worth a gander in a moment.

On a slightly different note, recently a few people unsubscribed from the mailing list because of “too much info.”
Well, it’s interesting that – because these days it’s the 3D world that brings me to overwhelm!
Sure all the ‘truth info’ is pretty mind-bogglingly hard-to-believe sometimes, but as the Lyndon LaRouche video I posted recently says, you need to know the truth otherwise how can you make an informed choice. (Btw, Lyndon LaRouche also goes on to say a lot of other things that, for sure, may seem ‘too much.’)
Sure they didn’t unsubscribe due to posting larouche crap?

Candidate Diane Sare, representative of the LaRouche Democratic national slate in NJ, hosted a LaRouche PAC Symposium on December 11, 2011. She gave an address titled “Should We Hold Elections Before or After World War III?
Personally, I think we should do it after World War III.  We survived holding elections after the Civil War started, and after the two world wars started, what’s different with World War III?

III.  In 1971 the editors of the Mormon journal Dialogue invited Georgetown historian Carroll Quigley to write a critical review of Skousen, who had extolled his work. Quigley condemned his whacked-out admirer in the harshest possible terms: “Skousen’s personal position seems to me perilously close to the ‘exclusive uniformity’ which I see in Nazism and in the Radical Right in this country. In fact, his position has echoes of the original Nazi 25-point plan.”

I found that in this book – Blowing Smoke:  Why the Right Keeps Serving Up Whack Job Fantasies about [clever subtitle by way of length]  By Michael Wolraich.  The chapter of interest to anyone with interest in the Larouche Movement is Chapter 8 — Return of the International Jew.  The focus circles around one of the more common items one sees cited from Executive Intelligence Review, here for instance:
“The Secret Financial Network Behind ‘Wizard’ George Soros”. William Engdahl. Executive Intelligence Review. 11-1-96.

I was a little curious about the background for the “Dialouge” piece.  Naturally, it is online.  Right here. I’m slightly disappointed with this set-up, but I suppose if Quigley wished to respond to Clousen’s response he had ample places to do so.

Hm.
Though Egypt is not remotely the economic basket case depicted by the “ex”-LaRouchie and derivatives-trader David Goldman (who seems to think Daniel Pipes-linked publications are legitimate primary-source material), it will be about as “threatening” as a beached whale for at least three generations
.

IV.  PO TOUR
Dateline Davis:

The man working the booth explained to a passerby that the Euro was deliberately designed to fail by the British in an attempt to squash sovereign nations in Europe. You can read much more about their stances on their website. It’s more complex and broad than this brief characterization. Regardless, why the large Obama-Hitler signs?
The man working the booth made several Obama-Hitler comparisons, mostly in the form of America’s involvement in Libya and other countries. But he didn’t answer the question as it relates to the signs themselves, which are obviously an attempt to get people’s attention.

Dateline East Greenwich
Officers said they had been sent to the site by dispatch and did not know who made the call. They said it did not come from Dunkin’ Donuts, but employees they spoke to said the owner was probably not going to be happy about the display.

The two men gave their names to the officer when he asked, but would not give them to Patch and would not be interviewed. Any more information, they said, would have to come from LaRouche Pac.

The two did say they had not asked permission from the Dunkin’ Donuts owner to be in front of store, and the police told them the display did not violate any ordinance. They did make them move one sign which was impeding traffic. The men were accepting donations and the officer said he would have to check as to whether that was a violation. The two said they were not selling anything.

Dateline California:
(I did tell the LaRouchies, who were collecting signatures, to impeach Obama, that they were nuts.)

V.  Media citations.

Good lord.  This guy just lost credibility in tackling Andrew Cuomo right here:
But “public-private partnerships” are yet another disturbing step away from accountability. PPPs were favored in Italy in the 1920s, according to an article in the Executive Intelligence Review. The facsists called it “corporatism.”
Douglas Turner, writing for the Buffalo News, randomly tosses out an unnamed article from the larouche publication — the same one that disclosed a vast conspiracy made up of a variety of websites including this one that are at war with America.
The great thing about this particular criticism is it leaves EVERY possible government policy “fascist”, because they’re dealing with “business”.

Meanwhile, this guy — standing before an unflattering picture of Dick Cheney — wants you to know that he predicted everything coming.  And that the powers that be hate him and want to stop him.

Image was found here.

 

Maybe he should sign up with the one percent by grimacing in the manner of Cheney?

 

 

Hey!  Prison Planet now publishing the works of Nancy Spannaus.  Neat!

La Rouche is insane
May the evil queen of England get a bad case of severe Diarrhea, dehydrate and die a slow aggonizingly painful death and her ugly evil corpse be buried in a sewer filled to the very top with smelly disease ridden shit.

For this is what the rest of the evil New World Order loving child molesting, mass murdering bastards deserve also.
Let freedom ring througout the nations of the Earth for the wicked witch of Britian is soon to be dead.
Obama needs to pull out of all foreign councils and treaties and protect American citizens on American soil. He needs to tell the Queen to take a hike and do her own dirty work!
That’s Dr. Paul’s dialogue.
It’s not the House of Windsor we must fear. It’s the Zionist House of Rothschild. Rothschild controls the money supply of the whole world. Rothschild’s minions created the central banks that have turned us into debt slaves. The queen and our so-called presidents and prime ministers are merely puppets following orders. LaRouche is way off base on this.
the queen of england is rothschild’s groom of the stool.

We won’t have dining room tables to kick around anymore

Tuesday, December 6th, 2011

Blast of the Past:  Lebanon
MEMRI TV Clip No. 1165 – ‘New TV’ Host Maria Ma’louf and Executive Intelligence Review’s Uwe Friesecke Discuss AIDS, SARS, Mad Cow Disease, and Avian Flu in the Context of the Jewish Exodus from Egypt
To view this clip visit, http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1165.htm.

Yeah, the reputation preceeds them.  From The Guardian — a source for the Larouche Movement when it jibes with their political purposes (Blair Bush and all that), a tool of the British Empire when it does this:
In recent years, before being discovered by Mr Nelson, Mörner had largely been reduced to self-publishing pamphlets on the web and penning overblown diatribes in loony-tunes publications which bear as much relationship to scientific literature as the Spectator does. One of these – titled There Is No Alarming Sea Level Rise! – was published in an online publication called 21st Century Science and Technology. It might sound impressive, but this magazine is in fact a vehicle for the views of Lyndon Larouche. Larouche is the US demagogue who in 1989 received a 15-year sentence for conspiracy, mail fraud and tax code violations. He has claimed that the British royal family is running an international drugs syndicate, that Henry Kissinger is a communist agent, that the British government is controlled by Jewish bankers and that Barack Obama is a puppet of the renewed British Empire, which is supposedly trying to start a third world war over Syria (see end for references). He sees science and empiricism as yet another conspiracy, and uses 21st Century Science and Technology to wage war against them.

Hm.  Find a contrarian professor, and run with him:
 In an interview with the Executive Intelligence Review (EIR), Akasofu explained that the Earth hadn’t finished recovering from the Little Ice Age. The Little Ice Age was a period of global cooling that stretched from the 16th to the 19th centuries. Since then, the earth has been warming up to its pre-Little Ice Age average.

Keep an eye on foreign Press.  Like here.  Lawrence Freeman on Russia Today.  Jeffrey Steinberg on Russia Today.

I.  Alex Jones Props Up the Cult

Blast from the past.  Congressional Testimony by John Birch Society President and Conservative Democratic Georgia Congressman Larry McDonald against the Liberty Lobby, Spotlight, and its connections with Lyndon Larouche.  September 9, 1981.  Without delving into spurious conspiracy theories
why do they spend their time attacking the conservative anti-Communists while at the same time they collaborate with the strange leftist cult headed by Lyndon LaRouche?
This is interesting.  Worth keeping in mind as we see an attack from AIM, and an alliance with Alex Jones…

This great man knows what he’s talking about.. IMO he should of entered the 2012 presidential race just to spread his message
Yes, Lyndon is great! I think he was/is a John Bircher, no?
Larouche is either a shill for TPTB and/or is a complete nutjob.
You dont understand, hee hee, you silly

I don’t like the precedent for this choice, as he is not a “Larouchie” but by an elastic definition of the term, but when I post this in a few weeks — the Second Annual “Larouchie” of the Year — Alex Jones will get that coveted top slot.  I think the rest of the list, but feel free to send in your suggestions.

And we will see what Lyndon Larouche does to the Alex Jones brand:  The credibility of the infowars brand and by extension of Alex Jones is damaged by every reference to Lyndon La Rouche. Why Alex has any contact with the man is beyond me. He has never been right about anything.

No doubt about it, Jones has given the Movement some spots on the political fringe from people who… might have forgotten they exist, or take Alex Jones guest as a serious tip.  Yes, they always had something like this — Anton Chaitkin appears on D’Anne Burley.  But… This guy makes it explicit.  Radio host Steve Kates interview Lyndon LaRouche on the immediate threat of general thermonuclear war, removing Obama, and the Strategic Defense Initiative.

And notes from this interview I actually listened to for some reason.
“This empire is determined to set the nations of the world into a war with one another, which is intended that civilization as we’ve now known it, will no longer exist. This is not only a general prospect; this is the immediate situation this weekend. This is not a weekend like other weekends. We’re now on the verge—and it’s set in place right now—of a chain reaction, which could mean the extermination of civilization as we’ve known it.
“Now this is being set up by the British Empire, and nobody else. And nobody else. If you don’t think the British Empire is the enemy, you don’t understand the ABCs of the situation.
Tony:  “Fiat Currency”…
“This NAWAPA Project is the Greatest Project Ever Undertaken in the History of Mankind”.
Dave: “I remember Larouche…” 3 key issues… Patriot Act,
“Hear you all the time on Alex Jones!”
“Veteran of World War 2.  Was a supporter and admirer of Franklin Roosevelt, I also had admiration for Eisenhower and for Jack Kennedy and some other people.  Belong to the Franklin Roosevelt tradition.  I’m a successful economist in terms of performance.”
[LIAR!  Larouche hated FDR right up to the 1980s.  Still don’t know if he likes him, quite frankly.]
“Obama… personality characteristics of the Emperor Nero.  This President is the Greatest Danger of all the Dangers .  He’s taking us to Hell.
(23)  “This guy is eligible to be Ousted.  We have to get him out now or we will not have a nation.  […] “
“This guy spends his time playing with basketballs.”  [I note a minor racial element to this statement.  Also, Larouche doesn’t speaks of playing with basketballs as a foreign concept.  Anyway, I suggest tipping it off to “Playing Golf” when in front of a predominantly black audience, though that gives a suggestion of actual glad-handling with the power elite.]
 “He’s getting us into a war… which will be a Thermonuclear War.”
We’re a matter of Days away from Hell.

Let’s turn to Satan’s Fake Apocalypse for some analysis on the latest screeds from larouche.:  I suspect that this is intended as a smokescreen to conceal the relationship between the increasing threat of world war and the financial crisis, in an attempt to neutralize LaRouche’s warnings. It’s the same thing as having their puppet Obama put on an apron and dish out Thanksgiving dinners to distract us from the reality that a record number of people are food-insecure thanks to Obama’s policies. It’s a snap for the oligarchy to manipulate some stock prices and get their media to spin a narrative around it, but it doesn’t change reality.
It looks like they’re trying to lull us into a false sense of security, to make LaRouche look like an alarmist, but he predicted an escalation toward world war, apparently as a result of the the collapse of the British empire’s financial power, and that’s exactly what happened, although perhaps not in the precise form he predicted. I suspect that Drudge’s fixation on Putin is a clue to what’s coming down the line
.

How to make Larouche look like an alarmist… quote him saying that we are days from Hell.  Hey!  Speaking of Hell!
Question of the Day:  The British Empire’s WW3 Plan Must Be Stopped This Weekend!  Was it?
Inside the Eye — Live!  for Illuminati Observer…  Saturday, November 26, 2011, Inside the Eye – Live! was joined by Harley Schlanger, Southwest Bureau Chief for 15 years for Lyndon LaRouche PAC Executive Intelligence Review Magazine. In what proved to be a lively and informative conversation, it is clear that the Harley Schlanger’s views and insights of the American and geopolitical scene are very much in line.
A main contention, and it is hard to counter the arguments, is that President Obama, aside from perhaps being a “userper” (one who is holding office illegally by virtue of his legal status to hold the office not being affirmed), has violated so many laws and rights of Americans that the guy should be impeached. Perhaps jailed.
President Obama is but an outward extension of this much darker force, a force that came to bald open power with the NeoCon/Mossad/US Synarchic attack on the United States on 9-11.
Yeah.  Satan.  Synarchists.  Illuminati.  Hm.
Alex Jones gets us this.

II.  Barney Frank Retires.  Will set up dining room tables however he chooses.

Alice Wolf puts in a word against Barney Frank and for Rachel Brown before Frank announced his retirement.

Rachel Brown, whom he described in a town hall meeting as talking to a dining room table, challenged Barney Frank, with regard to the Glass Steagall take down. In the video recording of their electoral debate he was so self congratulatory it was completely mental.
He toots his horn like everything he did was just great and everyone else caused the meltdown. […]
The bank cartel in Mass. is THE VAULT and that’s his boss. They are the remains of the original oligarch’s banking group dating back to the times of the Tea Party itself. One of the group is Fidelity and this outfit has tentacles in Chicago too. He may look and sound like a buffoon however the iron fist inside the glove so to speak is looking for ways to destroy the US, they are mad as anything right about now, their monetarist system is still on it’s death bed.

And the people are remembering Barney Frank via the quote — dining room table and what planet….

NHPR hour 2.  Rachel Maddow.  Here.
Bill Press:  And he’s the bluntest man in Congress, telling one constituent at a town meeting: “Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.”
The Clip of the Ages, right
?
Also, the climate in Congress has “substantially deteriorated” since he first got to Washington, Frank said at his press conference, although there was no hint the man who famously likened a dissenter’s intellect to a dining room table sees himself as playing any role in that substantial deterioration
.  Hm.  I say insulting the Larouchies should get a pass on that one.
By R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr 
 As for wit, all I noticed was a clownish demeanor, somewhat reminiscent of W. C. Fields, though without the booze. A specimen of it was presented on National Public Radio for us to savor the other day. In responding to a contrary constituent in 2009, Frank said, “Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.” Oscar Wilde he was not.
And don’t you probably suspect there are plenty of Frank’s colleagues in the House on both sides of the aisle who often wish they could face down an addled constituent at a town hall meeting and note: “Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.”
.
Those who admire him say that Mr. Frank served up his sourness equally, without regard to the political importance or social status of his audience.
And his flavorful putdowns stirred supporters, who cheered when he told a woman at a 2009 town meeting who likened President Obama’s health care plan to Nazism, “Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.”
.
Steve Williams:
  Back in 2010, when open meetings with constituents were all the rage because of the rise of the Tea Party, Frank had an exchange with a woman from his district who questioned him about his role in America’s financial meltdown. Frank refused to partake of any discussion, saying, “Debating with you is like debating with a dining room table.”
Newsbusters
:  Kamen noted that while Frank once called to grouse that he hated his column, “we’ll miss his quips and pithy, sometimes withering comments.” The Post staffer rattled off thirteen quotes, beginning with  a now-infamous 2009 quip in which Frank dismissed a critical town hall participant by saying that addressing her concerns was “like trying to have an argument with a dining room table.”
Huffingtonpost
 He’ll leave behind a long legacy of legislating, obviously, but he’ll also leave an equally impressive legacy of quips and zingers, which he deployed at will to ridicule reporters, belittle political opponents and, on one memorable occasion, compare the LaRouchie version of Ani DiFranco to a “dining room table.”
The Progressive:  Most of all, I’ll remember him for telling off a Tea Party person who came to his 2009 health-care town meeting and compared Obama to Adolph Hitler. Frank invoked his “ethnic heritage,” and said, “What planet do you spend most of your time on?”.
In an era of carefully crafted political images, he has stood out for his rumpled demeanor and scathing wit.

“Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table,” he told a detractor in 2009.
Frank is a sometimes crotchety advocate for many causes dear to online gamblers as well as many liberal voters. Inside the gambling community, he’s known for his efforts to pass legislation that would allow secure online gambling in the United States. Outside the gambling community, he’s probably best known for being the first openly gay member of Congress. And he was once reprimanded by Congress for encounters with a male prostitute. Oh, and there was that one time he told a woman arguing with him about President Obama’s health care plan that he’d rather argue with a dining room table.  Bless the people of Massachusetts because none of these things kept him from being reelected every year
.
On the Absurdity of a Donald Trump hosted Newsmax sponsored Republican Debate:  It looks like Ory Taitz and the woman that Barney Frank compared to his dining room table are going to be on the panel asking the “Tough” questions.

Don’t forget the other part of that equation!
He asked critics: “On what planet do you spend most of your time?”

When a woman at a town hall meeting in 2009 called President Obama’s health care proposals “Nazi policy,” he famously said, “I’m going to revert to my ethnic heritage and answer your question with a question: On what planet do you spend most of your time?”

“What Planet” is a sub-heading in the career overview here.
When he said to a nubjob, “On what planet do you spend most of your time?” He handled his office with a style that was really unique. He’ll be missed.
.
This one from NPR gets both of them in
.  As does Fox News.

Interesting to note the drawback to the Rachel Brown Campaign.  There is less likely a chance of appearing on a Public Access aired debate against the two or three “legitimate” primary challengers.  I suppose we’ll see if she can sneak that 20 percent anti Frank vote of 2010 into a Kesha Rogers victory, and make next year’s “Larouchie of the Year” list…

III.  THE PO TOUR

Dateline… Look it Up Later… Libertarian-Ville/  As it turns out, they are followers of Lyndon LaRouche whose beliefs I can’t seem to place anywhere on a political spectrum. According to the Wiki article, the views are applauded by communists, socialists, totalitarians, and fascists alike.
I asked how this effort was being funded and how do they plan on enacting laws and regulations and the answer was that people would just do this. It reminded me of Star Trek and other socialist programming but it had very fascist overtones. Mark then gave up, exasperated by my inquisitiveness and desire for answers. Having failed at proving his beliefs he resorted to ad homonym attacks calling me closed minded and brain washed. He walked off and under his breath said that he needed to find other people to get things done with.
It is obvious to me now, having read up on what these LaRouche guys believe, that they are truly lost. Mark had announced he had read Mises’ book Liberalism proudly beating his chest with his self congratulatory intellectual prowess. Perhaps he did in fact read the entire volume. Obviously, he had not understood it.

Dateline Livingston, New Jersey:

Members of the LaRouche Political Action Committee — named after American political activist Lyndon LaRouche Jr., who unsuccessfully ran for president on eight consecutive occasions from 1976 to 2004 — did not identify themselves but instead referred requests for information to their Virginia-based offices.

“Our sole focus right now is to remove Barack Obama by the 25th Amendment or impeachment,” said LaRouche Political Action Committee spokesperson Angela Vullo. “As long as he is president, the world is being threated with a World War III. And that is a nuclear World War III.”

Dateline Ewing, New Jersey  Only in the land of the free could there be political posters ridiculing President Barack Obama in a Hitleresque mustache, or wearing a derby and “Dancing to Wall Street’s Tune” as half of the famous “Laurel and Hardy 2011” team.
Only in the home of the brave could there be campaign literature warning that Obama is Britain’s puppet and leading the U.S. into World War III while calling for his ouster under the 25th Amendment on g rounds that he cannot perform his presidential duties.
Such was the display of posters and political flyers set out on a table outside the Ewing Post Office yesterday for the curious to gawk and listen to supporters of Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.

Joe Lerner, Dateline Seattle, August
However, I disagree with my own tee-shirt, however politically correct (beneath the slogan Lyndon LaRouche is shown bursting from a phone booth, with a swastika stitched on his chest). But when Lyndon LaRouche activists set up a table in front of my favorite store (the U-Bookstore on the Ave), I wanted their attention. […]
The first time I spoke with the LaRouche-ites, meaning to “dialogue,” they responded by harassing and intimidating me: taking my picture with their cell phones, asking what my name was and where I worked, and so forth. When I refused to leave, they called the police, and when the police arrived, I was accused of harassing them. The police, who obviously just wanted to defuse the situation, asked me to leave, but I stuck around a few more minutes anyway.
Several days later I ran into the LaRouche-ites again at the same spot. Again the police were called. (One anti-LaRouche guy who joined the fray with me bolted after they had dialed 911.) […]
It was cold and raining. Now I saw things from the LaRouche-ites’ perspective. Passersby hurried past, not looking, as intent on avoiding me as much as the LaRouche-ites. I saw one guy I knew from work (it was lunch time). He reddened and turned away. I yelled his name. When he did look I shouted, waving my brochures, “I’m not them, I’m the anti-them!”
“I have to be somewhere,” he murmured, and hurried away.
Later someone did read my brochure. “I didn’t know this information was so readily available,” he said.
Yeah, these guys are evil, I was about to reply, when he joined the other LaRouche-ites behind their table. […]
Over the next few weeks I saw them several more times on the Ave, and once in Fremont. Eventually I was talking with a friend who worked at the U-Bookstore. “I thought of you the other day,” he said. “I read in the paper about a woman who jumped out of her car to tear down one of their Obama-with-a-Hitler-mustache posters. She was arrested.” He then told me of another recent incident when a group of LaRouche-ites and Socialist Workers Party members had set up tables next to each other and proceded to harangue each other. “Can you imagine a more dysfunctional picture?” he asked.
“I don’t know. Did they call the police on each other?”

The masses are talking about the Thermonuclear War Prediction:
Okay, I’ll stop. But seriously, can you believe people take this guy seriously? I wouldn’t have thought so, if I hadn’t talked to one of the members of his cult today down by Sproul on the Berkeley campus. They genuinely believe this crap, along with some other fun stuff (Obama is a diagnosable narcissist, if you didn’t know).
As weird as it sounds, I’m kind of intrigued by how odd the whole movement is. So as soon as I post this, I’m sending a link to the appropriate email addresses on the site, and I’m going to ask for real evidence to back up the claim that the “British” are behind a plot to end the world. Because I can’t really see a motive, can you?

Dateline Odessa:
They are recruiting for political activist Lyndon LaRouche’s ‘alliance of patriots’ to ‘remove a disaster’ and ‘junk the new world order consumer economy.’
‘Some people are turned off, but then they come around later because they realize what we’re saying is the truth,’ Jambor said.
I saw these outside agitators at the annex when I went to renew my tags. Lyndon Larouche is the guy who has his followers pay him $24 a month each to go out and beg money from the public.
He’s been a part of every conspiracy theory ever developed since the 1960s. I couldn’t believe that he was still alive, but he is, after Googling.
Just proves that evil never dies, and there’s a sucker born every minute. This group is associated with the KKK, among others.
No, thanks.

Dateline Odessa, Texas
“The biggest problem we have is people are so pessimistic and selfish. They think they are going to keep making money on the stock market and shopping for Christmas while Obama sends the world into depression and war. If we took all the energy people are wasting on shopping and focused it on removing Obama, he would be out next week,” said Craig Holtzclaw, the LaRouche PAC Organizer
The protestors will be traveling around West Texas for the next 2 weeks and then will be traveling all around the state spreading their message.

What a waste of time, money, and effort. If they think they can impeach with in 2 weeks They obviously have not heard how hard it is to impeach period.

Dateline leepy little town of 13,000.  San Mateo County.   It is just a reminder that  we really need to probe a little deeper into peoples intentions.

IV.  INSULTS

Ms. Mirak-Weissbach is a member of Lyndon LaRouche’s organization (far right), and a collaborator of the conspiracy theory web sites mondialisation.ca[2] and globalresearch.ca. The level of honesty is exactly what can be expected 

V.  And now the Alex Jones Commentspalooza!
Part One.
Lyndon FUCKING LaRouche???? You’re actually interviewing this lunatic? This man regularly gets his information from little green men from outer space…that’s not a joke, he ACTUALLY has quoted space aliens as his source on more than one occasion.
 never heard that..can you provide i link i googled Lyndon larouche speaks to alien an nothing but fake stuff pop..any videos
As a Larouche fan, totally agree with you! What is missing is punishing traitors who voted for NAFTA, bailouts, obamacare, SuperCongress, etc. Arrest ’em all, seize their assets.
Lyndon is about as sharp as a bowling ball.
ALL HAIL BRITANNIA, ALL HAIL LELOUCH  Did anyone ever thought about Lyndon relation to Code Geass?  Code Geass is the most Anti-British TV Show ever made
 Lyndon LaRouche is the Scientology of contemporary American politics.
logically a full scale nuclear war wouldn’t happen right now because the USA has not officially adopted a collectivist type state like socialism. Only after that came to pass, the old order could be leveled, depopulated.You can’t depopulate when everyone isn’t reduced to the common denominator: communism!  but again this is only a theory, even though it’s my theory
 I don’t know why Mr. LaRouche thinks removing Obama from office will solve everything. There are Constitution hating facists in the Congress that can destroy this country without Obama’s help.
 La dousche is a right wing National SOcialist Nazi. and he uses Labor party as an in the pocket social nazi commie card. He says Impeach Obama and more socialist programs. Dams, Mag lev trains. And no other plans to pay for it. More taxs. If you read about his foundation they CIA style brainwash interns. and hes been imprisioned for his NAZI facist shenanigans. Reads like a CIA, Communist Nazi Manchurian canidate
[long debate about biblical numeracy and the war against Russia.]
the idea that Obama might be ‘lifted’ out of the presidency on the grounds of being declared insane by the vice president and cabinet (the body under the 25th Amendment who would make that determination, subject to approval by 2/3 of Congress) is laughable. whatever you think of Obama, he’s clearly regarded as sane by those who work with him. that LaRouche imagines this is a plausible scenario suggests that the man has been drinking his own kool-aid for far too long.
 Listen up Lyndon, your story doesn’t hold water..If you dont impeach Clinton for rolling blunt with monica lewinsky, and you dont impeach Bush for planting 666 tonnes of thermite in the Twin Towers, Dont pretend you can impeach Obama for making more of a difference to Man KinD than any other president .. Impeach Obama? For what? That and a dime cant buy a bum a cup of coffee!.. why does your voice sould my my family DoGG when he barks
I agree with a lot of what Larouche has to say but his rabid hatred of Obama is over the top, stupid and irrational. And no I did not vote for BO but that’s besides the point. The Larouchies are a very weird cult-like organization. Like David Icke, much of what he says makes sense but then he will just totally go off into left fucking field if not leave the ballpark entirely. Some of his comments about the British Royal Family are on a par with Icke’s reptile space aliens, i.e., batshit crazy.
this is horrible, i’m russian and I consider many american’s as my brothers, Nuclear war would be IDIOTIC, these bankers are insane, willing to end millions upon millions of lifes for something as petty as money…… god help us all…

Part Two.
LaRouche says Britain was behind the assassination of the French President prior to WW1.  I think he meant Jean Jaures, the leading pacifist who was killed prior to war.  He wasn’t President.
this bloke just hates the British…
OK. I see. LaRouche is saying SOMEONE would be “filling in the absent term of Obama” from those elements in government he believes would “do the right thing”. So if he means within the structure of the “continuity of government” apparatus, there is a PERSON of unquestioned integrity among them, who is it?  1 honest man that is not Illuminati, please step forward.
LaRouche referred to France’s President Carnot, assassinated 1894 by an “anarchist”, a favorite term for Illuminati (who oppose ALL government, in order to promote a cosmopolitan world under their control.)
 “Throw this bum out.” Yes, okay, so Lyndon truly thinks Obama masterminded his dictatorship and that will end it? The united states was bought by the Queen and her relatives the Rothschild. After the scapegoat is gone and the bribery and intimidation continues, then what? The Queen E and B are criminally insane. She needs her jaw shut like a nasty tempered British Bull Dog.
We need a high ranked Mason like Ron Paul.
LaRouche’s babble has re-affirmed my conviction from 10 years ago — the guy is an idiot.  He guarantees the world will change, but can’t explain how. I thought Alex put the point to him very clearly, but he can’t explain it. Guy is schmuck.
LaRouche told the newspaper White had been “reduced to an eight-cycle infinite loop with look-up table, with homosexual bestiality”; he said White had not been harmed and that a physician—a LaRouche movement member—had been present throughout.[41] White ended up telling LaRouche he had been programmed by the CIA and British intelligence to set up LaRouche for assassination by Cuban frogmen
 I’m no fan of Obama,  But Lyndon Larouche sounds totally bonkers.
Also, is LaRouche stuck in the Cold War era? I’m sure there will, inevitably, be another world war, but would any country REALLY be stupid/insane enough to launch a nuclear attack? Dumb question, I know. I just hate to think that a group of insane individuals would actually want to destroy the world in that way. Well, I guess The Powers That Be will be safe in their underground bunkers, while the rest of us are vaporized, or worse.

Part Three.
OMFG this guy has repeated the same $hit about 20X, literally. His old brain cell can’t hold more than 2 or 3 thoughts. I think he also has early stage Altzheimers. It’s like his short term memory doesn’t function N E more. Every 2 minutes, starts from the top – same old $hit = yawn.
OMFG now he’s praising Rosevelt! As if he should B admired 4 murdering MILLIONS OF WHITE PEOPLE in Europe, as well as KIDNAPPING (drafting) tons of Americans & murdering them also – 2 enrich the bankster jews & so on. WTF? Rosevelt was WORSE than Hitler & the Nazis. If we just left them the fuk alone Europe would have been far better off – just another temporary dictatorship (as they always R, ‘cuz parasitism = production collapse), instead of a bunch of dead people & bombed-out landscape.
What ‘message’ clown? LaRouche says NOHTING! He makes random ‘mysterious’-sounding doomsday rants 2 scare up contributions 2 his ‘news wires’ & other ‘survivalist’ nonsense. Nuke boats troll the oceans ALL THE TIME. Moving them near active military on land is nothing unique4 or special, especially during wars 2 blow up more nations 2 further enrich the jew banksters. It’s been going on ever since nukes were invented, clown.
Hey I got a new scam 4 LaRouche. He could chat up how the Earth can only B saved if Martians will land – not tomorrow – but NOW! The martians must land NOW or there’s ‘no telling what can happen’. Well that’s nice Lyndon – now U have en excuse 4 not being accurate, so U R ‘spot on’ with your vague, meaningless statements. “Things will B corrupt, & people will kill each other”. Oh really? Like when did that ever stop? ROFL!! =)) UNLESS THE MARTIANS LAND NOW!! HAHAHA Buy my books! HAHA
He talks like “Throwing a President out” is as simple as taking the trash out…..While Larouche can be brilliant at times, he lacks a sense of reality that cripples his ideas…..
LaRouche needs to get real. Ridding the President won’t change the mandate that the core group shares. Clinton is no lap dog, she is pushing this foreign policy as much as Obama, and if he goes what about Patreus? I don’t think that La Rouche is living in Reality. I stick with Webster G. Tarpley bro., he is sane, pragmatic, and mentally well-balanced. Thanks AJ for the intro.
Yeah we’re in for thermo nuclear war !!!! lol Imagine W speliing that thermo NUKEAR war !!! ha ha ha !! Larouche is a douche !!!! This interview really sucked !!! Also Alex sits there and doesn’t do much to counter Larouche’s at times lame and quite ”doubtful” claims…. Seen better inetrviews at AJ show…. Definitely a thumbs down for this one !!!
LIES! LIES! LIES! Lyndon LaRouche has a psychotic paranoid persecution complex about the British Royal Family. He needs psychiatric evaluation. Mr. LaRouche’s slanderous comments about our Royalty can be disproved instantly. If they actually wielded the power that LaRouche claims they do, Lyndon LaRouche would have been assassinated long ago! His poisonous diatribe would have guarenteed it!

Part Four.

Great interview. I had heard OF LaRouche a long time but never heard him speak in conversation, only as a lecturer very long ago. He was treated by media back then like 9-11 Truthers are treated now.
(Lots of FDR bashing in this comment thread)
oh so it’s all Britain’s fault is it ? Nothing wrong with America, Israel, China, Russia, Japan. Oh it’s Great Britain to you, Lyndon. Just nuke Britain and all your problems are solved. Just shoot Rothschild or something, unless of course, Lyndon Larouche is a Rothschild agent. I’m sure he’s been saying Thermo-Nuclear war is coming for the past 10 years.
FALSE TEACHER ALERT!!! I was agreeing with what this Lyndon guy said until he started saying the galaxy is billions of years old (with no evidence) and then went on to teach a new age belief system that we are immortal and we determine our own destiny!!! Sounds very much like what the serpent said in genesis 3:4 that “we can become like God’s”… Alex jones then puppets “true self determination” “true self development” — more new age crap propaganda. Wake up alex Jesus is the only way!

Punk Rockers Forum… Note to Rex Kuntz.  This man hates your music.
It’s getting played around…
In his interview with Alex Jones, LaRouche put all of his immense moral and intellectual authority on the line.

Yeah…. it’s all on the line.  They love him at Lunatic Outpost!

Been a while since I’ve looked into the Wikipedia Attempts on the part of the org.  Note the same old same old.  Inland Empire Oath keepers would like to ask if they’re Whigs.

by popular demand…

Tuesday, November 22nd, 2011

I.  Diane Sare interviewed by Neil Barton on his pod-cast.  A MUST!
“might expand”.  You heard it from Diane Sare first!
… 80 percent of Americans not upset with the death of Qaddafi.  Uh huh.
Spiral into World War Three.
Clinton could’ve been impeached for the same reasons.
“I’m not looking for World War Three.  I’m looking for the Zombie Apocalypse.”
“These guys are crazy.  Let’s talk to them.”
Where’s your Jersey accent?

The next media appearance for Diane Sare I believe came with the Inaugural Live Basement Webcast.  Someone else will have to review it for me.

Interesting, as always, that Diane Sare puts herself and her movement in Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy’s tradition, when…
COUNTERPOINT:
and since others predominantly, wishfully refused to believe up through December 13, 1976 US Labor Party warnings of what a Carter administration in a chain of horror-stories going back through Kennedy, Roosevelt, Wilson, Buchanan, Van Buren, and Andrew Jackson — with Republicans Theodore Roosevelt and Taft properly thrown into the collection.  Unless forces are mustered adequate to change US nominal policy now, the result may well the physical extinction of our nation this year or next.
The same consistent expressions of American Toryism run through Beard, Arnold, Williams, Roosevelt, Kennedy, and the Carter administration.  These people are not Americans, but the grotesque reflections of an alien social disease of heteronomy which has poisoned the body politic.  It is within the same context that the philosophically fascist film Roots is to be appreciated.

And this is a lot of retro-fitting:
It is a fitting commemoration to the legacy of JFK that the book Dope, Inc., commissioned by Lyndon LaRouche, is once again in print.

II.  Warning about World War Three:

“So the question is why? Why? Why? Why is somebody so damned foolish, as to start a general thermonuclear war?”
I don’t know.  He must be a Narcissist.

COUNTERPOINT:  I would disagree with the presenters, the Oligarchical Principle did not have its start with the Prometheus/Zeus Greek age… it goes several thousands of years further back in human history, as a manifest principle, even back to ancient 1st Dynasty Egypt, and Sumer, and even perhaps more ancient civilizations…
But the Mythos attached to the Promethean/Zeusian struggle gives a good metaphor … to work from… an older metaphor is that of Abraham vs the gods/goddesses of UR of the Chaldeans and that Chaldean/Babylonian manifestation of the Oligarchical Principle
.

Mm hm.
LaRouche said that another element to consider is that British agents operating in Germany, led by the consultant so-called “scientific” Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, who holds the rank of Commander of the British Empire awarded by Queen Elizabeth, not only seek to eliminate nuclear energy but also from hydrocarbons, with the pretext of the farce of “global warming” caused by man.  It is simply the plan promoted by the British consort, Prince Philip and his WWF to reduce world population of 2,000 million human beings.  Turns out Schellnhuber is hand in glove with John Holdren, science adviser to President Obama, who shares the same orientation genocide.  Hence, LaRouche stressed the urgent need to get Obama and immediately reinstate the Glass-Steagall, “If that step does not occur quickly, the entire planet on the brink of collapse to a global new dark age.”

In related news, this campaign is really getting Executive Intelligence Review on Iranian Press TV at an increasing clip right now.
The US, pushed by the “Zionist apparatus,” is seeking to use the Saudi envoy assassination accusation against Tehran as a pretext to launch an attack on Iran, a political analyst tells Press TV.

Obama’s role in this war-charge is more confirmation of Lyndon LaRouche’s charge that he is a British stooge, a Nero-like narcissist in love with his reflection in his teleprompter who was installed as president through a public relations con funded by British agent George Soros, the money bags behind the fake political movements GetUp, MoveOn and Avaaz and the bogus Twitter and Facebook revolutions  in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

III.  The Validators of the Moment
Prof Francis A Boyle.
In interview which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on October 26, 2010 (as translated by MEMRI), Boyle sharply criticized Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, stating that “Obama was bought and paid for by Zionists. That’s why Rahm Emanuel was his chief-of-staff” and that “Mrs. Clinton sold her soul to the Zionists in New York to get elected as senator from New York.”
Yeah.  Impeach Bush.  Impeach Obama.
From 1991 to 1993, Boyle was a legal advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization. Boyle is currently attorney of record for the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria and a member of the Nobel Peace Prize for Governor George H. Ryan Committee.
He strikes me as the kind of guy who signed that “Yes, Impeach Clinton, but do it for the right reasons — he’s a war mongerer” petition.
AND
a former KGB colonel and Supreme Soviet deputy…  Boris Bolshakov, was a collaborator of the late Pobisk G. Kuznetsov, a visionary scientist and organizer of industry.

IV.  OCCUPY DOES THE BOOT THING.
 Rick Potvin has some thoughts.

My comment. The current OWS movement still denies leadership and demands. The Occupy movement is in canada too in a virulent way so Canada is not immune after all, as many of my canadian contacts seem to think. canada is intentionally underdeveloped. Until the Occupy movement understands that Glass Steagall separates true banking from speculation, we’re being led down the same path as Germany was.

And the Tea Party gives us this:  No Tea Party had any extremist elements we didn’t quickly point out, abuse and run off, except for the damn LaRouchies who are like limpets.

And we have this:
Even the relatively small number of Occupy-X City folks lack even a basic agreement over why they are occupying anything. You have a combination of fed-up lower and middle class voters (as you point out), LaRouchies, professional protesters, Ron Paul supporters (like me), and, to put it plainly, dudes looking to hook up (which I respect). This does not look like the type of coalition that can lead a general strike
.

When there is some leadership forged, it takes us to this decision:  See Kurt Nimmo at Prison Planet and Infowars.  The closest thing to an official website for the Occupy movement now has these guidelines:

No Platform.Conspiracy theories, including any attempt to spam material by David Icke, Lyndon LaRouche, David Duke or Alex Jones, will be removed immediately and the spammer will receive a swift global network ban. Fascist propaganda (including any attempt to spam these four people again), will be treated with the similar actions. In that we are very specific about what fascism is: the word has a meaning.
Good news for Larouchies.  It’s been edited down to:
No Platform. Conspiracy theories, will be removed immediately and the spammer will receive a swift global network ban. Fascist propaganda, will be treated with the similar actions. In that we are very specific about what fascism is: the word has a meaning.

So.  The bunch are removed.  To the consternation of Jones, Duke, and Larouche, and Icke advocates.  Though not without this comment.
I agree with them about Icke, Alex Jones,David Duke and LaRouche. I think it a Freudian slip of the Marxist kind, that they left out Romney from the list.

V.  Who’s being insulted as Larouchian this week?
What do Tea Partiers and LaRouchies have in common? Well it seems to be their viral hatred of the fact that President Obama ended the NASA space shuttle program. At least that is what I read today at the Huffington Post.
But there you have it. Cain, a businessman, seems to be all about doing things on the cheap, a Tea Party favorite, but when he gets specific its not WalMart he wants to do his shopping at, it’s Neimann-Marcus.

In the U.S. today, most presidential Republican candidates are fighting for the economy for atheism and deism.  It seems that the exception is Rick Santorum, a catholic from Pennsylvania who wants to eliminate the poverty of the poor class. On the other hand, President Obama will be fighting for the economy of LaRouche and Riemann, even though he didnt study the LaRpuche/Riemann economy. Obama’s stimulation work indicates that some work in a nation produces infrastructures and does not always produce profits.
All very good and well, but why are you posting an image to King’s book?

OWS is Obama’s version of the Larouche Democrats.
OWS rarely complains about democrat anything. Obama owns them, they are his Larouchies!!!!!!!!!

Reminds me of the Beatles’ reservations in the song “Revolution”:  I’m with OWS in spirit as long as they are nonviolent and are not Larouchies who demand Obama’s impeachment or Anarchists who want to overturn the government & enjoy provoking police. Also, not with the Squatters/Anarchists who tried to who tried to take over private property, a vacant Car Dealership in NC.

Almost every interest group conceivable has managed to qualify some sort of measure for the ballot: Tobacco industry companies tried to roll back smoking regulations, insurance companies have repeatedly tried to bamboozle voters into giving them more money, fringe politicians like Lyndon LaRouche have made oddball attempts and others have tried to pass myriad new taxes and regulations.

In the 1st couple years of the Tea Party, whenever the MSM would publish photos of creeps with racist or otherwise deranged posters, 90%+ of the time it was one of those demented freak Larouchies.

VI.  Fighting for the Larouche!

A:  Gerald Pechenuk makes an appearance for Jonathan Turley’s piece debating Obama as Obama or Obama Bush.  And he gets this reaction.  And conversation.
with all due respect, I think I will skip anything that has to do with Larouche.
Greg,  Take a breath. I did not belittle you or Mr. Horton. I simply stated that I would not visit the the LaRouche site. My problem is with LaRouche, not Harton or you.  However you seem to lack a certain quality of delicious and playful irony which would help liberate your mind to going outside the Taboos, which have been set up for you and others.
Rafflaw, my good brother, my recommendation is to take the chains off of your mind and let them fall to earth, like dew……….
raff, I am with you. I would not click on a link to a LaRouche site on a bet. Yuck! The only derangement syndrome worse than the Birther Derangement Syndrome.
While I consider this topic of the utmost importance and applaud JT’s involvement in the public debate, I too share your disdain for all things LaRouche. That his past tactics of demonizing Jews, Zionists, blacks, and labor unions in what can best be described as his neo-fascist movement is enough to discredit him. The fact that he was convicted of conspiracy to commit mail fraud is only icing on the cake. He’s a lot like the Koch Brothers, but just not smart enough to try to put makeup on his ideological warts.
You are insulting Bruce Fein and Mr. Boyle by including them in the same breath with that scum bag, Lyndon LaRouche.
OS,  Con man is the right term for LaRouche, along with ex-con as Gene reminds us.
LaRouche is Harold Stassen with the aroma of a NAZI and the ego of Nader.
And the confidence man skills of P. T. Barnum.
You owe me both the cost of the beer I spit out, and the keyboard I spit it on. It’s funny because it’s true.
I’m nearly as old as LL and the machinations of him and his followers bores me. One can’t make the bloviations of a con man into the insights of a prophet. And yes I’m being deliberately insulting and dismissive.
I am not sure where Gerald gets off giving orders around here. Good luck on that. He will have about as much success as a June Bug convention in the henhouse.
Smell the boot leather . . . Eau de Fascist  The new same old fragrance by LaRouche|
That is an interesting “fragrance” !
After all, how many people knew when they voted for Obama, they were getting a continuation and a worsening of Bush’s policies by Obama,
The Would Be King George III……….

B:  Alexander Hamilton delivers us this:
Nicholas of Cusa warned us to beware gossip and rumormongers that drain our vitality. Go fight the Obamabots (and Paulitards), prove your anti-fascist cred, and leave us humanists alone.

This week’s “Alex Hamilton”:  Do the haters understand what Lyn faces right now? The Obama crime family, those puppets of the British Monarchy, wants to start World War III. It wants to reduce mankind to a slave species of fewer than one billion people. […]
To fight this, as Kepler did before us, we must combine the principle of metaphor and human creativity. Only Lyn truly understands all this. He alone can rise above history’s downward trajectory and protect America before the British Empire consummates its evil plan.
I can imagine a time when we stop using the LaRouche brand on everything — and adopt a name like Emergent Democrats for public organizing. For example, there’s a lot of people who would be interested in NAWAPA but freak out irrationally at Lyn’s name. And this is an ongoing challenge.

All very interesting.  Because, well… we see something like this here Obama’s War Effort Surpasses Bush Mirrors Hitler! Webster G Tarpley on Alex Jones.
… and yeah.  We see the stripping of the “Larouche brand” for furthering the cause, a cause which is not original or germane to Larouche, besides that name thing.
I once posited to Hylozoic Hedgehog in an awkward exchange that we can see the future of the Larouche Movement in the present of the Technocracy Movement.  Interesting historical footnotes which, every once in a while is tossed out there.  Like last week, there were a couple of media digs at Technocracy, Inc. and Howard Scott.  And a chance for the Technical Alliance to defend Howard Scott as a true visionary and not a charltan.
It’s a bit more complicated with Larouche.  You see the Webster Tarpley model.  You see key figures on Iranian TV.  You can trace some conspiracy theories from away from Larouche’s orbit and past Larouche’s orbit.

etc.  This site is not intended to shed light on the Church today in these end times.  This site tries to provide information for those seeking to live an authentic relationship with the Lord and who want to leave the spiritual illusions, heresies, and false gospels.
Scottish Mama brings up EIR.
George Shollenberger:  I listened to some of the excellent teachings of Lyndon LaRouche in the early 1980s.  When I learned about the book of Nicholas of Cusa on ‘On Learned Ignorance,’ (click) I turned my attention to Germany’s Cusa’s works, which are very new.
Gunny G links to Larouche “To Stop WW3, Must Impeach Obama“, also the point that the GOP was Marxist at its inception.

VII. THE POST OFFICE TOUR WINDS THROUGH AMERICA

Dateline Albany CAlifornia:
Today I was amazed to run into a LYM card-table shrine in Albany, CA, of all places. They were just packing up the Impeach Hitler-Obama signs as we came by. My companion, who’s more of an optimist than I am, engaged the LYMette in spirited debate about whether LaRouche had in fact accomplished anything in the 40+ years since the NCLC started, aside from improving his own lifestyle. She of course insisted he had done many wonderful things, although nothing she could name was real-world based. “Get a life!” was her final sally (although she’s the one who spent the afternoon at a card table), and then, “You’re been reading FactNet too much!” It sounds to me like they’re spending more time on FactNet than the ex-members are at this point. Under the circumstances, I really admire xlcer’s perseverance.  (Park this for the moment.  May or may not return to it.)

Dateline Solano.  CITIZEN JOURNALISM AT ITS FINEST!
Earlier in the day, one gentleman, described by Perebikovsky as “a ’60s baby boomer wearing really long socks,” tried to run down the Obama signs, she said. He then arrived on foot and tried to tear them down.
In one 20-minute period, two men with a dog in a jeep cheered and pumped their fists in response to the impeachment message.
Other passers-by were less enthusiastic:
LaRouche volunteer: Would you like to take a flier?  Passer-by: Nope. Not from you.   Volunteer: Why not?  Passer-by: …You’re out of it.
Volunteer: What do you think (about our display)?  Passer-by, shaking her finger: I don’t like that.
**  Passer-by: Hi! What’s that about? (in reference to the Obama posters)  Volunteer: Sign up with us!   Passer-by: That imagery… you just lost me.
**  Passer-by (points his index finger at his head and rotates it clockwise, while making eye contact with the volunteers)  Volunteer: Obama?  Passer-by: You crazy.
**  One Albany commissioner, walking his children home from school, side-stepped the booth, but wished them “Good luck with that.” […]
There were another two up in front of Landscape Stn at the top of Solano. They ought to be free to speak, and shame on the guy trying to destroy their signs. But LaRouche… whoa, takes me way, way back. Next week it’ll be a guy distributing J.T. Chick tracts…
“If Barack Obama is not thrown out of office soon, civilization is in mortal danger. The British Monarchy is out to destroy the United States as we know it, and Obama is their puppet instrument for accomplishing exactly that.” from the LaRouche website.
Wow… I thought the Brits stopped running the world after WWI…
Oh noes! The redcoats are already here. Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes! Ha ha.
Yea, I always thought the world was secretly controlled by space aliens, the Illuminati, the Matrix, or Voldermort. I never thought the Queen is behind it all!
The Queen controls everything from a miniaturized radio transmitter in her handbag.
I ran into a couple of these guys in Cotati (Sonoma County) a while back. I asked one of the fellows if he could express his disagreement with our president without denigrating the memory of six million Jews. His response was a complete and total mishmash of conspiracy theories–culminating in the bizarre belief that Americans only enjoy any protected constitutional rights because of LaRouche. Clearly I wasn’t going to get anywhere, but I couldn’t walk by without saying something. I did point out that if we actually lived in a fascist country, he’d be in jail for disparaging the president. The very fact that they have the free speech right to display these atrocious signs belies their message.
My usual procedure when dealing with LaRouche representatives is to take their literature, peruse it briefly, ask for a second copy, and tear them up. Then, smiling, I ask for another. Sometimes they actually give me one!
Let’s keep them out in the open where we can see them whether we like what they say or not

‎

Dateline I’m Not Entirely Sure.
Looking at this candid shot of the nice, cheerful  LaRouche supporter you would think that she wants your donations for some charitable cause. You would never guess about wild mix of ideas that this group propagates. They hate Obama but Franklin D. Roosevelt is their demigod. They are afraid of fascism (picturing Obama as Hitler) but they like Stalin. They fight for freedom and strongly support Putin’s rule in Russia. Picture is deceiving
.

 

 

Dateline Plymouth, Massachusetts.
The unnamed volunteer said that we need to impeach Obama before he starts World War II, then caught and corrected himself.
“I mean World War III. We already had the second World War, thanks to the first owner of that moustache.”
Across the parking lot, in front of the post office doors, his friend Ian stood speaking earnestly to a woman who was clearly interested in his message.
When the woman left, and he was asked to sum up the reason why he was at the post office this day, Ian said he believed that humanity was “the creative force of the universe. We are not animals. And we have to organize our government and economy around such an idea.”
What idea?
“Mankind is the creative force of the universe.”
That’s a political idea?
It’s both a political and an economic idea, Ian said. […]
It is noteworthy that LaRouche – and his supporters – have been warning about the immediate destruction of civilization for some 35 years now.  Wishful thinking, it might seem.

Dateline Livingston, Connecticut

Good god, what a bunch of nutjobs….

a chilling look at the future world where we’re forced to talk in purple prose

Monday, November 7th, 2011

Quick!  Purchase this play by Ezra Stone, complete with annotations from Lyndon Larouche!  Wait… What?

Factnet points of interest:  The more interesting quote on James Bevel during this period, more interesting than Kennedy, comes from Malcolm X.  So what we have here is roughly the same criticism from the, I guess you can say Janus faced Establishment Center of Power and from a more radical point on the political spectrum.  But it’s not germane to a discussion on James Bevel circa 1992.  What I want to know is where was the vast media apparatus of the Lyndon Larouche Organization, Executive Intelligence Review and all the rest, during the moment of trial for Bevel, in 2008?

And this guy is hilarious.  And, in equal measures, depressing.  I’ve gone with that “the future will look back on this moment of struggle” conceit before in explaining the pile of links on this blog.  He, of course, is serious, and that’s the difference.  And so it goes.  It’s that Trotskyite tic, always playing for the Historical narrative.  Interesting here is that Ruth Tuttle dropped a letter in this same purple prose by example of an example of her cult-era embarrassment,  from Younger Than That Now.  And that “concentration camps in the nation’s heartland” had me scrambling for George Thayer’s book, but I may as well skip the Cold War paranoia origins of the idea and just check in with a random Alex Jones episode — you have a one or two chance of catching him on it.

Should we survive our current tyranny, we face a shock of history that will drag us out of our unconscious state. No one will scorn the days of card tables and long drives. Instead, the work we did will be remembered as the foundation of a new American system. First, we impeach Obama. Then, under new leadership, we need bankruptcy reorganization of the world system. Next, we need to restore the United States. Our system and talents can guide other nations to break the power of the British Empire.
Who is Lyn? Just a man, albeit a brilliant one. Yet his ideas originate in humanity’s perennial culture, while being eminently contemporary. Every moment is an outburst of being that revives the inner gyroscope of our species. While being informed by the past, they are ever youthful, greater now than in the past. They anticipate a future lived in accordance with the ideal of who we are, of progress, peace, and science.
Tomorrow depends on us. We can have a reorganization of society that empowers mankind. Nevertheless, we must choose to act!

Greatest line of this whole thing!
Sadly, sometimes people go overboard. They try to out-Lyn Lyn. Therefore, they develop an “us vs. them” mentality, and view anyone outside their little group as the enemy. Some people take Lyn’s speeches as if they are Sharia Law and try to tell everybody else what they can and cannot read, do and think. Those extremists do not speak for the rest of us. Sure, mistakes were made in the past, but they should not poison the future.

OH MY FUCKING GOD.
I got this imperialist propaganda in my e-mail and thought I would pass it along, expletive deleted.  (Because the Larouche organization would never stoop to crassness?)
It shows that our enemies are desperate.
The smiling, benign mask of our Anglo-Dutch overlords’ complex rationalization has slipped.

So.  A random cartoon.  Emailed to him.  A dirty trick from the Anglo-Dutch overlords.  Hm.  Also,  This too must be a Dirty Trick Operation from the Anglo-Dutch overlords, instead of… a random enough incident.

An Occupy Wall Street kitchen worker has been charged with groping one female demonstrator — and is a suspect in the horrifying rape of another, law-enforcement sources told The Post. […] A search determined Iketubosin is from Sugar Land, TX and a 2003 graduate of Sugar Land HS. That name also surfaced on this FEC political donationfiling for Kesha Rogers. 

Or maybe the Larouchies are part of the Anglo-Dutch overlord plot to discredit Occupy?

Check this one out. He is, I believe, part of the controlled opposition.  (Also found in “What Really Happened?”, curiously someone recently asked “Is What Really Happened Larouche propaganda?”)
Stanley Monteith is just marking his territory, against his competition.  He too is a regular guest on Alex Jones.  Maybe Alex Jones can hold a debate with Stan Monteith and Lyndon Larouche?

All the more curious — the Right Wing has identified Occupy as coming from … GEORGE SOROS!

Counterpoint:  Rick Potvin:   I’m agree with Tarpley that the Occupy people have to make demands, but they’re not. They’ll likely fade away or turn violent.
Counterpoint Again: All right.  It’s… this versus Larouche — Tarpley:
America’s “greatness” in our view was the residual effect of its original culture of freedom and its 13 separate colonies that fostered competitiveness and prosperity. America’s exceptionalism ENDED when the North conquered the South during the Civil War. For Tarpley, this is where America’s greatness BEGAN.

It’s George Soros … versus Lyndon Larouche… for the Heart and Soul of the Occupy Movement.
 OWS is following the believes of  the LaRouche Movement whether they know it or not, soon they will realize he was right all along.

STORY NUMBER TWO: ON THE VERGE OF WORLD WAR THREE
It’s making the rounds, I see.
 Scary,incompetant,fraudulent,fictional,delusional.A lucky find.
Got a Godlikeproductions posse.
And also:  The Anglo-American-Zionist western Illuminati is following a tight script to start World War 3. It is Albert Pike’s ‘prophecy’: the Satanic World War 3 Plan! In this plan, they will attempt to destroy Christianity by using the Satanic counterfeit Zionist ’666′ Israel bait. I have provided much evidence that Zionist ’666′ Israel is not the Israel of the Bible and modern Ashkenazi Khazar Jews (96+% of modern Jewry) are not the Jews of the Bible. The Illuminists will utterly destroy this Satanic counterfeit and many Christians (in America approx. 40M) who based their faith/theology on Zionist ’666′ Israel will fall. My forecast is still: by 2020 Zionist ’666′ Israel will no longer exist!

Talking about Charlemagne and Operation Valkyrie– a very interesting piece for this history buff! It’s really true; the same tactics can be used over and over because the general populace doesn’t read and doesn’t study.

This is very sobering. I have no idea what to do with this information right now.

This is the end… Larouche gets into the Mayan Calendar following.

Parade of the Paranoids.  One more Urgent Message.

Larouche lying to save his Roman Church.
Larouche is a Rockefeller stooge.
Larouche does have a point, He is interesting to listen to, Even if he is a little nuts.
LaRouche whatever you may think of him commands a large and sophisticated global intelligence network that branches into many governments and corporations.   I don’t know how much clout he still has with the Labour party after his jail bit but he’s still a well connected and smart person with nothing to gain from calling out Obama. IMO this is as real as it gets.
obama and larouche are PUPPETS doing their equivalent of a WWE wrestling segment in politics

ww3.

ITEM NUMBER THREE:  OCCUPYING YOUR OCCUPATION.  And post offices.

Is there any candidate in Democratic Party history as obvious a sham as Gingrich or Cain“?

Occupy Seattle:  So, what do Rob McKenna and Lyndon LaRouche supporters have in common? Apparently, neither will talk with me. At least, that’s what I found out yesterday when attempting to start an open and honest dialogue with the crazy-fucking LaRouchians parasitizing yesterday’s Occupy Seattle protest at Westlake Park.
I had a long conversation with one about the PANIC initiative and he admitted that their view of gay people is pretty similar to the street preachers’, except their view is based on “science” not religion. He said HIV/AIDS quarantines are a good idea because gays are extremely promiscuous and said regulating private sexual conduct is a moral good according to LaRouche.

Comparisons of media coverage between the Occupy movement and the tea party are interesting. For two years, the tea party has been called racist haters because demonstrators showed up with signs like those portraying Obama as Hitler. Protests that these were outside agitators with their own agenda were dismissed.
Now, the same LaRouche people with the same signs attend Occupy rallies, but careful exculpation is made that they are NOT part of Occupy, but are outside agitators with their own agenda
.

Have the Larouchies contaminated the Occupy yet?
They were the ones with the Hitler/Obama posters at the Tea Party rallies, and they’ll bend the organizers rules in pursuit of bad publicity Westboro Baptist style.
Thankfully no. They are one of the authoritarian groups who can’t stand the GA because it doesn’t let them take over.
Here in New York  we’ve had a scattering; a couple of them were even in our pre-Sep 17th NYC General Assemblies (which I did not find out until right before the 17th) and have not horribly disruptive. They did have their Obama/Hitler posters the first day, but those haven’t showed up since; I’ve seen a few passing out their flyers, in the same manner as the Revolutionary Communist Party (Bob Avakian cult worship), and various  Marxist-communistish groups; nto being super-obnoxious most of the time, though.
We don’t have them in Tampa Bay  There was quite a contingent of Libertarian nutters here, and I did see one lonely guy from International Socialist Tendency.

Tim the Socialist:  One of these aforementioned problems are political groups that do not support the aims of the 99%. These include the neo-fascist LaRouche group, Ron Paul drones, not to mention some religious nuts. LaRouche, it shouldn’t even have to be said, is a fascist cult that never has and never will do a damn thing, and certainly nothing that will benefit the working classes of the US, let alone the world. Ron Paul is a shill for the corporations, he

Dateline London:  I would direct anyone feeling like throwing two hours of their life away on a Zeitgeist vid to instead get stuck into Schumpeter’s Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy – or if you want to watch a film about the crisis, watch Inside Job. Please, please, please don’t get suckered into Ron Paul liberalism or Lyndon LaRouche’s fascism or whatever garbage Zeitgeist is peddling – it’s all bizarre, reptillian-takeover-Illuminati schizoid fantasy and it will waste your time remorselessly and make you sound like an idiot when you talk to people who know things.

Dateline Ottawa:   Jack Chick would be proud. I often run into this situation where I find someone whom I agree with, and then they go into some strange Zeitgeist or LaRouche psychobabble that puts any unusual belief I may hold to shame.

Occupy Montreal:  We translated the text ourselves, and it’s good. Otherwise, there was a very small visible anarchist presence, mostly in the form of backpatches, a few black flags or black-and-red flags, and a few banners. This must be contrasted to the Maoists of the Parti communiste révolutionnaire, the Zeitgeist Movement, the Lyndon Larouche cult, various ragtag bands of Québécois sovereigntists, and other marginals who managed to be visible. There are more anarchists than any of these groups, except maybe the sovereigntists, but the majority of anarchists chose either not to engage or they chose to engage in a way that didn’t mention the A-word.

Dateline Vancouver:  Today’s Occupy Vancouver protest was as much theatrical spectacle as political statement. There was the crowd of meditators who sat silently, eyes closed, through most of the all day rally in front of the Vancouver Art Gallery. There was a Lyndon Larouche devotee bearing a slick placard with a complex, colour coded diagram of an alternate speculation-free banking system; a street girl plucking punk meets Piaf tunes on a battered guitar while her dog sang along, and a young hippie playing a hurdy-gurdy. There was even a man with a pyramid on his head whose message only perhaps the illuminati might discern (although when he finally removed it to reveal a balding scalp, speculation ran rampant that it was just a protest chic comb over.)

Seattle:  Today, there were the occupiers, the activists, and quite a few rank and file, such as teachers, union members and families.  There were a few Larouchies, Hell Fire dudes, conspiracy mongers and Krishnas as well, but on the fringes.

American Nazi Party takes up Occupy cause.  “Turnabout fair play” tea partiers.  Our political discourse is stupdifying sometimes.

Occupy Irvine:  I noticed perhaps a half-dozen Oath Keepers (a group of current and former military, police, and firefighters determined to defend their vision of the Constitution, a similar number supporting Ron Paul’s presidential campaign, and a couple of LaRouchies with a very large banner covering the most visible corner.

I did notice a grandmotherly woman running a booth for La Rouche, which promoted impeaching Obama. She was not received well by the other crackpots there.

Occupy LA:   There are fringe groups or idiots in every group who are low hanging fruit for the opposition. At Occupy there are some people like the LaRouche-ites who are um, crazy or regurgitating whacked conspiracy theories without bothering to think for a minute about how goofy they are, and how such thinking plays into the hands of the people they are protesting.

OCCUPY FRANKFURT, GERMANY:  yes, count on the LaRouchies and Young Sparts to show up, here, cheerfully, to no effect.

Dateline Montreal:  To my delight, we stumbled upon a (very) heated debate between several Occupy Montreal activist and the Lyndon LaRouche cronies […] Lyndon LaRouche has been quoted calling Barack Obama a “trained monkey” and denigrating his mother for interracial mixing[…]. Everybody had beef with the table set up by the LaRouche supporters, as well as their violation of the rules that had been established at the general assembly. The different groups (community centers, NGO’s etc…) that had set up tents were prohibited from recruiting, as well, as promoting their own ideas and political views. No promotional pamphlets were to be distributed. The LaRouche supporters didn’t respect these rules; to add fuel to the fire, not only did they set up a table filled with pamphlets as well as other literary paraphernalia (i.e. books and posters) but the other protestors believed the essence of the LaRouche movement was racism, fascism and homophobia. Oh- and it definitely didn’t help that they were proclaiming nuclear energy was environmentally friendly.
The debate which lasted upwards of an hour began as an expulsion attempt. The protestors demanded LaRouche supporters leave the premises but they were met with staunch opposition. The debate became a matter of freedom of speech versus ideals and goals formulated byOccupy Montreal. My opinion; I have NO respect for LaRouche and I feel contempt and pity for the youth he has brainwashed but I do believe in freedom of speech even if, and especially when, the opinions expressed do not reflect my own.
Because the rules regarding material propaganda and the non- political attributes of the rally were voted democratically in a general assembly and were established for greater cohesion and promulgation of the real cause (we are the 99%), it was finally decided that LaRouche supporters could stay only if they gave up their propaganda and set up a tent and join THE cause.

Dateline Michigan:  The movement’s loosely-defined ethos was challenged this weekend when followers of Lyndon LaRouche—a political sect that Scientologists probably regard as kind of batty—attempted to attach themselves to the Occupy cause, setting up a table complete with their President Obama-as-Hitler posters.
LaRouche is also a convicted grifter, and a noted anti-Semite who believes Queen Elizabeth controls the global drug trade. His followers also may have had something to do with the 2003 death of a student and anti-war activist named Jeremiah Duggan.
LaRouchies will try to glom onto any movement. A couple years ago, it was the tea party.  Remember the health care reform=Nazis lady that prompted Rep. Barney Frank to quip: “What planet do you spend most of your time?” She was a LaRouchie.
Finding themselves not welcome on the right, they’re about to be again rejected by the left. 
What to do about the LaRouchies presence became a topic of debate among about a dozen Occupy campers. Eventually, a handful of anti-LaRouche protesters surrounded their table. They promptly fled Grand Circus Park for the Woodward sidewalk.
But defeating Team LaRouche is no great trick. Evolving beyond an awareness campaign is the real challenge.

Dateline Ottawa:  I welcomed the opportunity and he in turn extolled the virtues of a figure I knew little of, Lyndon Larouche. When I went home and researched Larouche I was shocked to discover his philosophy of conspiracy theories, 9/11 truth, racism and more.
But anecdotes are not enough to indict a crowd. That man was, hopefully, not representative of the rest. The only way you can discuss the group as a whole is by figuring out what unifies it. When it comes to the Occupiers, the unifying element is not content (their actual claims), but form (the way they’re going about things).

 Occupy Detroit:  Finally, there was a discussion about LaRouche supporters who are in the campgrounds and how they may need to be confronted. The concern was that LaRouche ideas could be attached to the Occupy Detroit movement. No decision was made on what to do.

Occupy Los Angeles:  I saw a La Rouche supporter getting schooled by an activist  Do the police ever bust the the La Rouches?

Dave Weigel:
The ballyhooed “search for anti-Semitism” in the Occupy movement is really just a conservative revenge plot for all the nasty ways liberals tried to link Tea Partiers to the LaRouche cultists who showed up with Obama/Hitler signs. And… yeah, that’s pretty much it.

Dateline Fairfax:  there was a pretty hot girl who went to nova who was a supporter of lyndon larouche. I told her I supported to him to hook up with her – them larouche girls know their stuff! Then it started to get serious so I bailed out……..
Larouche is a fu(kin whackjob. Occassionally I’ll take one of his pamphlets from the dour-faced Larouchies soliciting for him outside of metro stations. Doesn’t matter what the subject is, it’s always intertwined with some odd historical conspiracy.

Los Angeles.  Firedoglake.

Dateline Sunnyside, NY:
Their presence received a mixed reaction. One man was curious and wanted to learn more. Meanwhile, another woman said to the men as she entered the post office: “I can’t mail a letter anymore without having to listen to this bull s..t.”

 Dateline Richland Gibsonia.
 On a small strip of grass alongside Route 910, LaRouche Political Action Committee Coordinator Tony Esposito and fellow organizer Joseph Billington of Brentwood stood by the stand, on which signs were posted that declared “No Bailouts! No Budget Cuts! Restore Glass-Steagall.” […]
Some motorists who were stopped at the traffic light spoke to the men. Others honked their horns, while another yelled, “Obama.”

Dateline South Hamilton Post Office.  LaRouche? Really? The guy’s a wack job!

Dateline Greenfield, Massachusetts:  The members of the LaRouche movement in Greenfield declined to be interviewed on camera.
Please for the sake of our country for us and our children visit WWW.RONPAUL2012.COM and support ron paul
I SUPPOSE, to someone who is a communist (LaRouche), our President could look like a right-wing extremist: Of course, they run the risk of alienating their biggest supporters through an un-intended reference to their history of persecution.
LaRouche for President, and nuke Palestine!

ITEM NUMBER FOUR:  WHO IS MAKING THE ROUNDS IN THE “MOCKING COMPARISON” FRONT?:

What about Ron Paul?
I was just drafting a thread Ron Paul: the right’s answer to Lyndon LaRouche.
While there are a select few ‘good’ ideas in his platform, I’m sure that if you pick through the rubble of a clock factory after the criminally insane through a riot in there, you’d find a few clocks that displayed the correct time.
His ideas are ill-thought out, and trying to hold a conversation with one of his (typical) supporters is futile–you’re most likely to get platitudes and shallow statements that lack any semblance of analysis or critical thinking.
If anyone has had a run-in with a LaRouche supporter, you’ll recognize the interaction.
I have, once or twice, long ago. Are they still around? Their world-view is . . . astonishing.

On Ron Paul:  Lyndon LaRouche has a better chance at getting the GOP nomination than the Texas Troglodyte. Just sayin’…..

Some guy named Chris.  This is mean.
Those guys tried to get me to sign up while I was hanging around Japantown in San Fransisco almost 8 years ago! Luckily enough I had just gotten done with my language classes to know enough French to confuse and irritate them…I’d say something in French to a buddy who’d say something in Serbian…fun times.
🙂 Over here in Germany I wasn’t aware that LaRouche even existed until I ran into some of his followers on the street. Here, they are known as “BüSo”: Bürgerbewegung Solidarität = Citizens’ Movement Solidarity. Being a physicist and having some interest into nuclear technology, I casually glanced at one of the BüSo posters which showed a nuclear power plant… Immediately I was surrounded by the LaRouchebags, who urged me to buy their magazines and donate them money. I fled. Later, I did some research on the BüSo and found out about LaRouche and his weirdo followers. In Germany, the cult seems to be led by Lyndon’s wife, Helga Zepp-Larouche. If you can understand German, here’s a fun satire of her:  Anyway, here’s another fun idea. The world of Chris-Chan vs. the World of LaRouche:  (reminds me of the same premise for a comparison between Larouche and Scientology — s/b)
The American Rabbit ~ Plato
Sonic ~ Kepler
Optimus Prime ~ Friedrich Schiller
Bionic ~ Leibniz
Sonichu ~ Lyndon LaRouche
Rosechu ~ Helga Zepp-LaRouche
Christian and the Hedgehog Boys ~ Verdi
The Trolls ~ The British “Synarchy”
Mary Lee Walsh ~ The British Queen
PVCC ~ The international drug trade
getting China ~ The Eurasian Landbridge
boyfriend-free girls ~ potential new recruits for the cult
CWCville ~ the LaRouche Youth Movement
Curse-ye-ha-me-ha ~ SDI
boyfriends/jerks ~ Baby Boomers
homos ~ homos

LaRouche Supporter: Excuse me sir, did you know that the government is controlled by a consortium of aliens under the umbrella of the Free Masons?}
Chris: Mmm.  Yeah.
LaRouche Supporter: We’d like you to join us and help bring down the conspiracy that is destroying America.  It’ll just take 15 minutes to get you registered.
Chris: *stress sigh*
And we’re done here.
The only scenario that has a chance of working with Chris
LaRouche Supporter: Excuse me, stud.  My girlfriends and I were just admiring your masculine bosom.  We all agreed that there was no way you could be gay.  Could you tell us about Pokemon while we all wash a car together?  After that, can we pay you to sleep with us?  We’re really turned on by stories about sad graduations.
I wonder what they think about Operation High Jump.

Always unfortunate when a good cause gets screwed by the Larouchies.  On the Glass Steagall Repeal vote
Even the bluest of the blue dogs. Every single Republican, even the more moderate ones, voted for it.  This needs to be shoved in the faces of the Larouchies and their Hitler moustaches.  The really bad news is that Clinton could have vetoed it, and with a 54/44 Yea vote, that veto would not have been overrriden.
Note Clinton.  Note Clinton.  Note Clinton.

Imagine a bunch of Tea Partiers, the Lyndon LaRouche folks, Hare Krishnas, Communists, or radical Muslims setting up in front of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Pentagon, the Russell, Dirksen or Hart Senate Office Buildings, the Longworth, Rayburn or Cannon House Office Buildings, the SCOTUS, the Holocaust museum, the Naval Observatory, Howard Dean’s house, the Cloward–Piven home, the DNC, the White House, or Obama campaign headquarters with “Occupy” banners.

@Loneoak: Where exactly did these extreme wingers come from? They were always there… they were Birchers & LaRouchies and hide-in-the-woods-with-a-chemical-toilet types. Buckley had them cast out. But they’re baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.

… Former Fed Chair.  Right there with Diane Sare.  Yeah, freaks.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE:  SELL, SELL, SELL

Dan Smitt, Iowa:
I have a secret. I’ll tell you because the best paid press won’t nor will the gutless congress because Lyndon LaRouche’s name is mention.
Russia and China have decided to back Lyndon Larouche’s efforts instead of Obama’s administration to save the World from total devastation. Things could still go bad because the British Royalty and the World Bankers won’t want to give up the monetary system of trillions of dollars in funny money – derivatives debt which they have been trying to push off on to us tax payers.

Cities12345 tries to sell Orange County on Larouche.

Lyndon Larouche hits the nail on the head in his book in which he exposes & refutes the pretense(s) of Thomas Malthus & The Club of Rome, “THERE ARE NO LIMITS TO GROWTH.

Yeah, I hate facebook too.  Lyndon LaRouche warned of this sinister aspect of facebook and warned his supporters to stay away. After seeing what these creeps did to Congressman Wiener who can doubt what they are about?

Alice Wolf tries to sell Larouchies to anti-Barney Frank contingency.

Check out all this on LPAC and get off the Titanic and get onto the la Rouche lifeboat.

 The problems of Judeo-Capitalism”?  These guys make it too damned easy.
President Obama is starting to realize the problems of Judeo-Capitalism and the corrupt banking industry. OWS is following the believes of the LaRouche Movement whether they know it or not, soon they will realize he was right all along.
Americans don’t have the attention span or intellectual foundation to digest the heavy thoughts of LaRouche. For that reason, I like Webster G Tarpley who is able to break down and condense LaRouche’s way of thinking for the majority of Americans.
LaRouche would make an excellent White House chief adviser or Treasury Secretary. LaRouche wouldn’t do well as Prez. Not for lack of capability but, the American mass mind is incapable of responding to a President who is not telegenic or entertaining in some fashion.

The anti-gay bigots behind PANIC:
Lyndon LaRouche’s name is all but forgotten today, but in the early 1980s the paranoid perennial Presidential candidate was regarded more as a joke than as a serious political thinker, even though he took himself very seriously.

Iranian press references Larouche as source.  So it goes.  Like Ahmad Chalabi on American media.  Jeffrey Steinberg pops into Iran.  And Qaddafi is about to take care of England, France, and Italy.

notes from the occupation: the larouchian edition

Thursday, October 13th, 2011

Hm.  an interview with Walter Jones.  I haven’t had a chance to hear it yet, but :  Note to congress men:  yes, you do interviews with a lot of different organizations, and frankly I want congress members to go on a lot of different sources, up and down the spectrum.  But please Avoid this one.
Also you should have asked why they’re still pestering about Glass Steagall when, according to them,  the deadline for Glass Steagall was July 4.

Alex Jones thinks it is all about the Fed.  As does Ron Paul.  But this is puzzling.  Alex Jones says “I agree with Larouche” –but  doesn’t mention Glass Steagall.

Larouche was on the Alex Jones show again.  This one was the shortest one yet.  With the least amount of reverberations that I see.  So the Larouche Movement has gotten him where they want him, tapped down to a new normal.

Oh geesh ~ anyone but Lyndon Ladouche. Lyndon is a known mental patient. He is a man so deluded and paranoid (especially over Obama) and out of touch with the basics of reality I’m not at all surprised he would turn up here. Way to go, Alex, way to dumb your audience down further.
BTW is Alex transmitting from the base floor of a Motel 6?
Lyndon Larouche passes gas that is smarter than you….
The best chance of prosecution of these criminals rests with the de jure Republic – republicfortheunitedstates (dot) org. If the military switches sides and backs the de jure Republic over the de facto corporate government, you would have instant enforcement and then these clowns in DC would be looking at prosecutions and convictions.

And now, reaction from Obama Hitler poster making an appearance on Al Sharpton’s MSNBC show, after video of Hank Williams Jr calling Obama Hitler.

The liberals dress up and bring out their Nazi gear. It’s their tool to try to discredit conservatives.
Conservatives just don’t do that.  (ah-choo.)

Beware the Provacauters:

I suspect your true views are far right wing ones. and you are here to try and deceive us while stiring the pot.
I agree that he is far-Right….  I wonder if he is a Paulist…..
If I had to hazard a guess  I’d go with a LaRouchie
OOOH you might be right   I guess I am thinking this is “American” from MondoFront who I believe was saying that he was liking Ron Paul. But yeah, he might be a LaRouchie.
In event I suspect that you are right and that he is acting the Provocateur.
I encounter LaRouchies all the time at Fox Nation   where some of their conspiratorial bullshit almost fits right in, but not quite.  It’s so uniformly shrill it even stands out in that place.

It is true that Larouche started the Hitler comparison to President Obama’s Affordable Care Act. the tea party embraced the imagery as did most right wing blogs, news, and other pundits. It is nice that some people are able to uncover this and expose the idiocy that occurred with the health care debate.

I wish I had taken a picture of their table at the 9-12-09 rally in Washington when they were trying to pass out those flyers and signs. No one was taking them.

2) Like I give a darn about what a LaRouche Douche says.

LaRouch is a twisted form of eventual communism because it attempted to use the rhetoric of the right as well as the left to support/hid their far left goals
Thats why they say they want to get rid of the “left-right” spectrum……because they attempt to use it all Once they convince people therer is no left and riight. all their confused logic seems correct..
Funny thing is that this LaRouch guy seems more intelligent, better spoken, with a better grasp of the issues, and seems more reasonable than nearly anyone in the media, let alone the OWS kids (whether you agree with him or not). And yet the OWS kids, the media, and the Democrat party are all considered to be somehow “Main Stream”.
How many LaRoushies are left?
A half dozen?
Ten?
20?
LaRouchies make PaulBots seem sane and rational. When Bush was President, they were marching around with Bush/Hitler posters. Anyone who isn’t Lyndon LaRouche is Hitler.
Our local teaps really discourage anti-Obama signs to keep the message focused on Congress and fiscal policy. Of course the media took a photo of the one nut job birther sign. And a Larouche sign. (Obamahitler). Otherwise, our 99% are pretty normal

This is all hinged off of:  Hank Williams Jr says he’s Sorry for Comparing Obama to Hitler.
The Obama/Hitler stuff is principally Larouche nutbags, and I don’t even know where those kooks fit on the political spectrum.
Yeah, I once compared Bush to Hitler.  When asked if I was serious, I said, “Hm.  No.”  My corrolary to Godwin’s Law is for an allowance for brief flights of hot rhetoric and inappropriate humor.  The Larouche org fails the test where Williams passes, somewhat.

Here’s Perry911 for Ron Paul goes to bat with Larouche video — the big 10/8 Historic Address.

And… In the same way, communists, UFO conspiracy theorists and followers of Lyndon LaRouche are very non-partisan, but this doesn’t tell you anything terribly flattering about their ability to think for themselves.

……………………..

Note from the Campaign Trails of the Kesha Rogers Summer Shields Rachel Brown Dave Christie Diane Sare and that other guy Campaign Hustlings:

Dave Christie, in Washington State, embarrassing himself.

Occupy Austin:
A profile of Kesha Rogers.
While no representative currently in office has adopted or been elected on the LaRouche platform, many have voiced support for the establishment of more stringent regulations and reforms. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) has introduced legislation (HR 1489 aka the Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011) to restore Glass-Steagall-like regulations, which, according to the LaRouche PAC, has garnered support from 45 house representatives in addition to a large number of unions and municipalities. Rogers says that by supporting the passage of Glass-Steagall, the supporting members of Congress are indirectly and passively supporting the impeachment of the President.  […]
HR 1489 does not include any other aspect of LaRouche’s plan, nor does it suggest or even allude to the impeachment of President Obama. As stated on Rep. Kaptur’s website, HR 1489 does, “ [repeal] certain provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and revives the separation between commercial banking and the securities business, in the manner provided in the Banking Act of 1933, the so-called ‘Glass-Steagall Act’. The affiliations currently between certain entities would be required to be dissolved.” […]
Kesha Rogers is a Houston resident who ran for Congress as a Democrat in 2010 and plans to run again in 2012. She has been an activist with the LaRouche PAC for 7 years, and will marry a fellow LaRouche PAC activist in 3 weeks.

………………………..

Dateline New York City:  From a Revolutionary Communist Point of View, the Humanitarian Socialist Party:
Unless one is well versed in the historical process of fascism, it is hard to spot a real Marxist revolutionary as opposed to a fascist masquerading as a revolutionary. Some openly endorse anti-Semitism but those are the very few, others like LaRouche for example endorse Democrats, or communists who hand out newspapers with dead Russian and Chinese leaders on the front of them. Supporting any of these characters would be tantamount to national suicide, no wonder the American people have resorted to backing anarchists, at least with this scenario we can remain in a state of flux while the American people have an opportunity to sort out the real radicals from the fakers set up by the perverse regime in order to divert revolutionary zeal.

Internal debates from the Occupy Movement:  I have repeatedly been confronted by irate people that accuse me of working for or with people like George Soros, Lyndon LaRouche, the FBI, CIA, US State Department and/or the Democratic Party and the Obama Administration. Let me be 100% clear here, all of these accusations are F.A.L.S.E.

As these things go, you shift through this and get… good, great, and not good.  The Larouchies are the most annoying part of this thing.

Dateline Los Angeles:
What about being on message? At the encampment, there are communists next to Ron Paul supporters next to vegan activists next to those LaRouche people (who always seem to show up) — even a couple of union guys. I’ve always called this liberal “micro-cause-ism.” Will they stay on point? “We’re not focused on the thing that’s not causing the problem,” says Aichele. Message cohesion is not the rigged system they’re rallying to change.

Dateline Ann Arbor, Michigan.  oooh.  Ouch.  Amusingly, the Occupy protesters were joined by perpetually incoherent Lydon LaRouche-ites, apparently the only protesters there who did not want President Obama reelected.  […]  Yet the only Obama critics at the protests are the space-case LaRouche supporters–the overwhelming majority of these attendees support his reelection. When LaRouche-ites begin to seem rational by comparison, something is wrong.

Hm…  Also found here.

Our article will also point out, below, that what increasingly seems to be a controlled movement is in a sense a LaRouchite one. That’s because the economic analyst Lyndon LaRouche is excellent at analyzing what is wrong with the West from a free-market perspective, but his solutions are all statist ones. He is a big proponent of FDR, for instance. See more on this parallelism at the conclusion of this article. But back to the Post. […]
Editor’s Note: Is Occupy Wall Street a LaRouchite Movement?
As we pointed out yesterday, the elite-controlled Adbusters magazine is behind Occupy Wall Street, along with pseudo anarchist David Graeber. They are the ones that provided the pseudo anarchist “direct democracy” meme, lifted at least in part, it seems, from Muammar Gaddafi’s little Green Book.
But the movement goes back farther than that, to Anonymous and David DeGraw and AmpedStatus – groups and individuals that were agitating for Wall Street demos as early as March of last year.
We’ve had questions about Anonymous in the past and we have little idea of exactly who David DeGraw is in terms of his real background, though we’ve mentioned him before. We do know the current Occupy Wall Street movement is modeled in part on the Arab Spring movements that are evidently and obviously controlled by the State Dept., CIA, AYM, etc. That doesn’t mean DeGraw is part of such controllers, of course. […]
Correct. But, ahem, given Max’ clout in the in the alternative media (compared to Lyndons) – I’d suggest “MaxKeiserite” instead of “LaRouchite”

Karl Rove, for one, identifies the problems with the Occupiers as against the Tea Partiers.  One is the existence of the Larouchies in the Occupiers camp.  Funny, that Karl Rove.  He Refuses to identify the Larouchies at the Tea Party as on par with the Occupiers.  A disclaimer:  despite my cynicism in this thing, and mixed opinions on matters, I don’t think it’s a secret which “camp” of the two I hold more sympathy toward.

Karl Rove probably hasn’t had a chance to catch Edward Spannaus on Iranian Press TV describe the Occupy Movement in… Larouchian terms:

So I think what we’re looking at is what the German revolutionary, Rosa Luxemburg, termed the mass strike, in which, in a revolutionary period, you have large numbers of people who will take to the streets, who will take to protest and are often spurred up by a wave of activity and political ferments.  […]
This is why, to my mind, the single most important demand of the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrations is the restoration of Glass-Steagall.  […]
So that is the first step and of course if Obama’s not fired by then he’ll quit in disgrace, because Obama is completely committed to stopping Glass-Steagall.  […]

Interestingly, the single most important demand for Alex Jones is to “end the fed”.  Actually, to tell the truth, if I had to rank my number one item out of “Occupy”, it probably would be “restoring Glass Steagall” — a tangible goal against a sea of both tangible and intangibles, of which Obama is not the figure “Standing in the way”.  BUT then again… let’s hear it from Helga:

On Sunday, the 11th September, led the ensemble of the opera in San Francisco to commemorate the attacks of 11 September 2001  September 2001 before an audience of thousands in Golden Gate Park to Mozart’s Requiem.  Activists of the LaRouche movement before and after the performance distributed a leaflet, which conjured up the spirit of the past – was the headline: “What would Mozart say to Obama? – “ – Back kick to save your soul! ‘” […]
Consider now Obama as a Leporello, who slavishly serves his master, hoping that it would give him according to “reward”.  Do you think that would be too far-fetched?  Remember how Obama crawled by before the Queen England and their recognition was begging for his slavish service to “save” their bankrupt banks and financial institutions with trillions of dollars, while America’s elderly, the sick, the unemployed and poor cast onto the scrap heap.
Waiting for the Larouchies to run into the Occupy parks and wave the “What would Mozart say to Obama?” signs.

Dateline Minnesota:  The discussion is so orderly and focused on process that it took me 15 minutes of observation on Tuesday to realize they were discussing something rather explosive. Supporters of the controversial political activist Lyndon Larouche had propped up a giant poster of President Obama with a Hitler mustache. “So we’re the Tea Party now?” one passerby quipped.

Because the 9/11 Truthers — permanent fixtures along with Larouchies.

To be fair to the OWS, these Ron Paulites are an organized vanguard group  like the LaRouchies and are catching even much better organized rightwing  groups off guard. The Value Voters Summit this weekend was a prime  gathering of evangelicals
I  
think comparisons to the LaRouchies deserve to become a stock simile.

“Turnabout is fair play”.
At this point the Left starts pounding the table and shouting about Larouche Democrats and their habit of putting a Hitler mustache on Obama. Mostly so that you won’t hear the part about “Larouche Democrats.”
Sigh.

Jonah Goldberg:  Note: That’s not some random nut job pulled from his Lyndon LaRouche desk or tricked-out refrigerator box/time machine. That’s the communications director for the whole shebang, and his goal is to overthrow the government.Now, he’s not advocating violence or dictatorship. No, he just wants the government to work on the same non-hierarchical, consensus-based, extremely deliberative form of direct democracy that they’re using down in Liberty Plaza. How that would work for some 300 million Americans remains a bit of a mystery.

The Larouchian role in the proceedings as always:  I am actually pretty supportive of the anti-globalization movement, and no, that’s not what I am saying. the term “International Bankers” has long been known (and may be one of the best known) as a term that is used to mask “The Jews that run the world” thought pattern. Lyndon LaRouche was using it as a “Dog Whistle” in the early ’70’s and you can prolly date it back to as far as the English Civil War (making reasonable decisions about language and it’s usage) if you really wanted to.
The Constitution protects free speech, even unpopular speech. The Constitution makes it possible for people like Ball to make erroneous claims that attribute disgusting left-wing Lyndon LaRouche messages to right-wing conservatism.

The “Occupy” Movement as conspiracy for Global Elites – thesis described as larouchian.

Ralph Nader popped up next, although Ralph has already crossed the electoral Rubicon between “A Campaign of Liberal Outrage” and “Lyndon LaRouche.”

Workers World Party:  The protest was politically inclusive and welcomed diversity. But when a right-wing group, followers of Lyndon LaRouche, tried to sing some patriotic songs, Aron Kaye, a longtime activist in New York, went up to them and told them, “This isn’t your demonstration — get lost!” They must have believed Kaye was speaking for a majority of protesters, as they did lose themselves.
See too:  here.

Dateline Minnesota:

TeaPartiers crashing the joint? Of course not.  LaRouchies, the Westboro Church of political gatherings. They’d steamed everyone up, but they were trying to find a common ground. You want Glass-Steagall? We want Glass-Steagall! You want an end to the Patriot Act? So do we! But everyone had a problem with the Hitler mustache. I think reductio ad adolpho is the stupidest type of political placard, and just because the other side did it for eight years doesn’t mean it’s time for them to get a taste of their own medicine. (But still. Snort.)
A few people in the crowd got heated, because the Obama-Hitler poster was harshing the general mellow, and a facilitator quickly entered to defuse the situation. Behold: the kindergarten approach to quietening a crowd. I’ll give them this: it works. If embed doesn’t show up, watch here. It’s short – in fact I suggest that you hit the link.

(Post recommended by this Phelps watcher.)

Decent crowd, but it could have passed for a folk music festival aside from the Paulites and a small contingent of Larouchies.

Dateline New York City:  Local supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon Larouche formed their own economic group. “I saw a disorganized rabble turn into actual working groups,” one participant commented. Veterans of the New York City protest 

Susan, I don’t know either, but I am pretty sure there are many other “nice” options. Ron Paul and La Rouche are of course “charming” possibility?/reality?

Why is the Lamestream media not showing this image of a protester wiping his ass on a police car like they did the Obama Hitler signs at tea party gatherings?

The “free school” has books available, and open time slots for people to expound on topics ranging from the history of the Fed to civil disobedience to whatever the LaRouchies devoted their five minutes to.I

It was mostly the usual suspects, for sure, but it was still great to see Our Side finally get off its ass and into the streets again. Despite all the talk about Teabaggers beginning to get involved, I only saw the usual smattering of LaRouchies and Paultards, who were largely ignored except by those in need of cheap laffs. Also, much to my delight, I spotted one — count ‘em, one — 9/11 Tr00th freak in the crowd, his sign still demanding that someone “Investigate WTC 7″.

It may grow over time (as long as the LaRouchies don’t scare away too many people).

I have not been entirely on top of what’s going on, but I did hear that the LaRouchies have landed, as they do whenever there’s a large gathering. That, I would imagine, is the source of the anti-Semitism and homophobia.

Dateline Los Angeles:
What would  a protest like this be without a LaRouche table? We should colonize Mars.

Despite all the talk about Teabaggers beginning to get involved, I only saw the usual smattering of LaRouchies and Paultards, who were largely ignored except by those in need of cheap laffs.

As with any large gathering, there was no shortage of dissonant groups: Code Pink had a large enclosure in the center of the square, meshing its notorious anti-war message with a call for a halt on foreclosures. Towards the back, a band of LaRouchies had gathered to hand out literature explaining why President Obama is a lot like Hitler.

dateline San francisco:  I don’t think they ever left, though.

 He laments with a laugh that the only people here with pre-made signs and leaflets seem to be the LaRouchies. Jeremy Batterson is leafleting a dozen feet away. He’s got a big sign that says “Bring Back Glass Steagall,” the Depression-era

They basically try to latch onto any major protest that takes place and try to make it their “movement”. It’s like the damn LaRouchies.

Dateline Seattle:

I said I had just been reading about Anwar al-Aulaqi.

The guy on the left went on: “He was an American! He hadn’t done anything! OBAMA KILLED HIM FOR HIS THOUGHTS!”

I said, “No, I think he killed him because he was an al Qaeda operative.”

The one on the left said, “He hadn’t done anything!”

I said, “Except advise the Christmas Day bomber to wait until he was over Detroit to detonate his underwear, so he could kill as many innocent Americans as possible.”

“For his thoughts!” the one on the left went on, not listening. “YOU COULD BE NEXT!”

Considering I have no plans to join al Qaeda, I’m not that worried. The light changed and I crossed the street and bought a smoothie.

The Larouchies could get together with Fred Phelps, and Charles Mudede, and form the perfect Trolling Machine.

Out of all the fucking douchebags I have to deal with walking the sidewalks of Seattle, these people are by far the worst.
Also, SAME GUY, from 2009:
Sieg Heil 4-ever, you cwazy, cwazy LaRouchie
AND THEN CAME SUNDAY
I love these protesters. Theyre bracketing the LaRouchies and  calling them on their bullshit. They made my afternoon brighter.
I love these protesters. They’re bracketing the LaRouchies and calling them on their bullshit. They made my afternoon brighter.
The LaDouchies look annoyed. It’s delicious.
Wait– El Douchies are nuts but he’s got a sign saying “Restore Glass-Steagall”, which is not nuts. This is disconcerting.
I miss the tents and the tar and feathering of the LaRouchies

Dateline Houston  They hated the British, Enron, and thought you were a loser if you didn’t sit around with them and listen to mozart. Don’t even think about wasting your time with a band. I would say they are a borderline cult.

Fun to see the Lyndon LaRouche wing of the Democrat Party has found a catchy moniker to pull in the media.

In my eyes, it wasn’t a left protest, more like Ron Paul/La Rouche crowd.

Dateline Baltimore
Jeremy Bat­ter­son is leaflet­ing a dozen feet away. He’s got a big sign that says “Bring Back Glass Stea­gall,” the Depression-era law that sep­a­rated deposit tak­ing banks from invest­ment banks and insur­ance com­pa­nies. Promi­nently near the bot­tom of the sign is the name Lyn­don LaRouche.
“He’s been against this all along,” Bat­ter­son says of the per­pet­ual pres­i­den­tial can­di­date, con­victed tax felon, and self-proclaimed inven­tor of the Strate­gic Defense Ini­tia­tive. He hands out not one but three leaflets. They are full of ref­er­ences to “the bank­rupt British impe­r­ial finan­cial sys­tem,” a “fixed exchange rate credit sys­tem,” and “the orig­i­nal United States Hamil­ton­ian credit system.”

I’m not sure about these Occupy protests yet. They are pleasing on first blush if only because finally people other than the tea party are in the streets. Drudge focused on protests in 5 cities early Sunday, then doubled back to link to an Alex Jones rant condemning the protests.  (Those kids aren’t Ron Paul Robots! Those kids have never even heard of Lyndon Larouche!) The blow back had begun apparently .

They need to tell the LaRouche piggybackers to get lost –THEY’RE THE ASSHOLES WHO HANG POSTERS OF BARACK OBAMA WITH A HITLER MOUSTACHE –

…………………………………………………………
Larouchie steps into climate debate and…
Sorry, I thought I must have been reading the Onion or something, you know… Lyndon LaRouche?… Charles Darwin a fraud & third rate intellectual?
Fulford are Lee Emil Wanta, the EU Times, Sorcha Faal and Russia Today (RT television: a KGB connected outlet that puts out a lot of truth in order to sucker in conservatives with periodic disinformation–much like Lyndon LaRouche)
Please don’t let Lyndon LaRouche see this post.

Always in good hands with “Photo courtesy Larouche Campaign.”

Alice Wolf blames Chris Christie for solar panels:
My intention is to be a la Rouche democrat.  Mr la Rouche has a terrible opinion of liberalism, he explains that it is the idea behind fascism.  If that is correct then hopefully not.  The green movement the environmentalists have good ideas but the manner in which they wish to see them put into practice isn’t powerful enough to sustain an enmormously growing world population very easily.  Also, to deny nuclear power means that we have to give up space exploration which would be tragic.  However, thank you for even reading my comment, I think  NO QUARTER is truly awesome.    THANKS AGAIN BEST REGARDS IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS
She’s everywhere, ain’t she?

Ulsterman UPDATE.  The “White House Insider”.  Confirming the Larouche storyline, and sending messages “From the Inside” to… this and that.  Yep.  Obama.  Crumbling.  He’ll be deposed any minute now.
And so it goes…

I agree with Lyndon LaRouche that the President of the United States is clinically insane and we are in deep trouble.
The failure to launch the measures needed to push President Barak Obama into expulsion from office brings the trans-Atlantic financial system ever-nearer to a total breakdown of the present system. […]  The order of the day, is not to “try,” but to succeed. The order of the day is to neutralize the power of Barack Obama and the Hitlerian fantasies of Dick Cheney, and do that in time to enable not only the realization of Glass- Steagall, but to supplement the reenactment of the original Glass-Steagall with the […]  Only the appropriate measures to remove Barack Obama from office stands between you and the Hitler-like seizure of power which was planned by the same Wall Street, House of Morgan breed, which had been attempted as a fascist takeover against President Franklin Roosevelt.

Alice Wolf is the FiredogLake Larouchie. As is Westerner:
 It may not occur, but LaRouche is warning of this extremely dangerous threat of coup d’etat by the British and when he says British he isn’t talking about the Beatles.  Sure he is.

……………………………

The Bad Old Days, and the Lyndon Larouche Legacy:  Was there really a time when a Lyndon Larouche Larouche could nearly pass draconian quarantine legislation, and when much of the population wanted HIV patients

Fourth, Alice fought with the community to support people with AIDS, particularly in fighting against California’s LaRouche Initiative, (Proposition 64, 1986), which proposed to quarantine people with AIDS. Like the Briggs Initiative a decade earlier, the LaRouche Initiative was an attack on our community that failed, and also became an organizing point for our community to rally together. Alice was a veteran organization that helped organize politically to stop that attack.

………………………………….

Losing the Larouche Cryonics Movement somewhat:  Amazingly, Bhat has shown that the standard view of the solar system is wrong. This is unbelievable yet real stuff. Incredible. Beyond my ability to put into words… so I’ll let Dr. Bhat do it here… download the pages and read them with me over the next month. I’ve send a copy to Rolf Witzsche who is slightly resistant at this point but open. Larouche people are not even open… which makes me suspect them of collusion now..

 Funniest line of the week:  My first impression of the Larouchies was that they were the heroes of campus.
Interestingly enough, that’d be Point.  Here’s Counterpoint:

 

Cultivating weed in your college pad or dorm room is dumber than volunteering for LaRouche, and riskier than joining the Boston Church of Christ.

But then there’s this as a runner-up.  Because one ends-time prognosis deserves another!:

Even Lydon LaRouche says in his message from October 8, 2011 that we are in the final days and even hours of the world system as we have known it. I do not agree, at least hope some of what he sees coming will not be as violent as he predicts; but I totally concur that this is the time when everything will come to a head. It is, after all, the final 7th day in this 9th wave.
happy final day of the 9th wave to all 9th wave followers

LaRouche normally makes some good economic sense but his obsession about “British” plots is quite tiresome. We all know that the financial-democratic matrix is made up of a Judaic Anglo-American élite but LaRouche still thinks he is in 1776 against King George III’s redcoats. The USA is the empire now!

I used to think LaRouche made some sense, also his wife thingy talks a lot of sense.
But this speech is currently to me a huge disappointment, full of historic inaccuracies and simply nonsense.
Charlemagne for example, was first frankish ‘roman’ emperor, but rome had long split up. In a way, the EU is a succession. Trying to paint him as an anti-roman hero is really not fitting. first and foremost Charlemagne fought bloody campaigns and wars against the other tribes, such as Saxons, like his grandfather Karl Martell fought saxons, frisians and Bavarians.

is this one of those joke interviews?
or is it possible that this guy is an insider and that this is done just to see what the reaction is?

Weird thing about that “even Larouche”.  He’s been saying this for the last 50 years, so… what?

LaRouche added that this is a 1923 style collapse on a global scale and the political leadership of America is acting like the ‘dumb’ Germans from that period. “They have not learned nothing from that lesson. Nearly everyone in leading positions today has flinched and backed off from the necessary measures. They are not prepared to defend civilization. The system is over.”, LaRouche concluded.

One person who reminds me of HWA is Lyndon Larouche, who has been predicting the complete collapse of the world economy for at least 40 years now. When we did have an economic downturn in 2007-8, his followers claimed this as ‘proof’ of his ‘predictions.’ HWA’s ‘prophecies’ include the wonderful ones from the mid-50′s, that Hitler was either 1) not dead, but holed up in the Antarctic with ‘secret Nazi weapons’ or 2) dead, but about to be miraculously raised from the dead by the Pope. No wonder PCG, UCG, LCG etc. get upset if you look up back issues of Plain Truth, Good News etc. Just like Larouchies don’t like to be reminded what ‘Lyn’ said back in the 60s & 70s.

Yeah, here’s the Landover Baptist Church — parody by the way.

……………

BUSO election results are in, and:

Actually, the BueSo is politically insignificant. The election results are available nationwide at approximately 0.1 percent and also local successes can not show the organization. Yet it manages to show presence in many cities in Germany. Also in Bochum, is regularly represented on campus and in the inner city with little stalls. On self-painted billboards share the world with her party members (see Introduction). Sometimes amusing, sometimes frightening or scary stupid, what is there to read. The hobby-horse of the party’s financial crisis. Years ago, warned BüSo top guru Lyndon LaRouche before the collapse of financial markets. In recent publications, the gloating over the apparent confirmation of their theories is hard to read and reminds you feel young, proud to announce that you have known a particular band long before they are “cool” and “hot” was.

 

The Larouche Wikipedia Teams takes another crack at things

Thursday, September 22nd, 2011

When these things break out — Larouche Wikipedia Team Offensives — I always end up with a sense of contradiction: I see why this matters, at the same time I see why it really doesn’t matter.  Basically why I get that sense of “it doesn’t matter” comes around the bend where they don’t have the need to delete sentences about them seeing themseles as the only people stopping the collapse of human civilization.

And so we go.  A semi-minor matter of Roy Frankhouser, where we have some parsing of matters here.  Deletions crossed, additions in brackets and italicized

Frankhouser said [they] he persuaded a friend to play a former top CIA official, “Mr. Ed” in meetings with Larouche [associates] who, according to Larouche group lawyers, came to believe they had a direct line of communication to the White House and Kremlin through Mr. Ed as “a national resource in security matters” — and were immune from prosecution.

Precision.  Larouche never met Mr. Ed?

The question of “associates” gets rather hilarious in some other edits.  The gist of the latest batch of wikipedia edits come down to wanting to deal away the threats to Girvin and a variety of threatening behavior to reporters — particularly in the 1980 New Hampshire Primary, and a reference in the Franklin Cover-Up Caper.

And we have a removal of a reference to Larouche being accompanied by “armed guards” is traded in for “several of his associates” in describing a “tense encounter with a New Hampshire journalist”.

We land in a loopy land where the Larouche wikipedia teams slides into a sort of case of selective existential crisis in the “Verify sourcing” question.  Okay, let’s see the deletions:

Reporters, campaign workers, and party officials received calls from people impersonating reporters or ADL staff members who asked questions including about what “bad news” they had heard about Larouche.  Return calls reportedly showed that the reported callers were imposters.

Governor Hugh Gallen and State Attorney General Thomas Rath both received harassing phone calls “day and night.”

When he reported the incident, he found one of his cats dead on his doorstep the following morning, and another dead cat on each of the subsequent days the series ran.  [Note: they added “A Larouche associate denied responsibility for the dead cats.]

According to courtroom testimony by FBI agent Richard Egan, the head of Larouche’s security unit boasted of placing harassing phone calls all through the night to the general counsel of the Federal Elections Commission in which the FEC was investing Larouche’s political contributions.

When a Catholic Priest refused to sign, a young Larouche follower accused him of being homosexual.  Another signature gatherer shouted “You are going to get AIDs” to a woman who would not sign.  There was an altercation between a member of the public and a Larouche follower allegedly standing beside a poster that said “Kill the Faggots.  Kill Elizabeth Taylor” which resulted in battery charges.

In 2009, Larouche followers who were protesting Barack Obama’s healthcare reform proposal stood outside a Trader Joe’s grocery store in Irvine, California wearing swastikas, bringing some shoppers to tears.  Followers called those who disagreed “bitches” and “Hitler lovers”.  Some arguments grew heated and on several occasions police were called to remove the Larouche followers.

While Girvin was being interviewed on a sidewalk by a tv reporter, someone walked behind her and said “Polly, you’re going to die” which the reporter soaid sounded like a threat.
[Added:  Due to that and what she said were other threatening behaviors, Girvin gave up her practice, sold her home, and left the state.]

Larouche said that a US Attorney who was investigating the movement [Weld] “does not deserve to live.  He should have a bullet between the eyes,” according to a statement given to the FBI by
[Good time to note the larouche wiki teams’ comical work with Frankhouser — to impugn a very impugnable figure.]

The Omaha question:
According to experts quoted by the Omaha-World Herald, Larouche’s motive for involvement was to justify phone solicitations raising money to combat child abuse in Nebraska.
According to one report, experts stated that Larouche’s involvement in the matter allowed his phone solicitors to raise money by saying they needed  money to fight child abuse in Nebraska.

Removed some notations: Resident Anthropologist removed the Red Letter Press pamphlet as a “dubious publisher”, a new piece “Who are the Traitors and who are the Heroes” as “Barely mentions Larouche” (and, really, hard to object), and an article about the Larouchies disrupting a Dean event.  Also seen that customary removal effort for Dennis King’s book and the “revisions on random websites” not “RS and SPS”.

I am sympathetic to this:
“My quick reaction is that threatening and spooky tactics of the movement, in aggregate, are significant and there is already a huuuuge section of that.  Each specific incident is typically disconnected, though, and few of them by themselves are all that important.”  — Wikidemon.

Girven incident is important.  And after a pause I think about it, reading through the batch of Larouche news articles, and think… this is the stuff that the Larouche Movement is made of, and the “Values in Conflict” we have (the “seems to dry up in the 1990s problem” throws you the problems you have to deal with.

Meanwhile, I sense the Larouche Wikipedia team — or maybe the I can call that editor the “See no Evil” enabler wikipedian in deference to “Assume Good Faith” dictates —  floats around the “Warn you the last chance” on a “Revert War” to Will Beback.  It’s a project for the Larouche wikipedia team, though I’m guessing sans Will Beback, something would fill the void.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living-persons/Noticeboard#LaRouche_Movement (Though, this one bounces with the odd problem of what is a Larouche Movement and why a Republican Party is not a personality cult — funny, something reminds me of Alan Osler here…)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:LaRouche_movement#Revert_warring

 STORY NUMBER TWO:  

To demonstrate my point – – Where in local media is there any coverage– blurb perhaps, paid announcement? — of the Larouche Movement holding a NAWAPA conference in Kennewick, Washington?

One step in this, I suppose… everyone’s joining the fight.:
A Call for Unification of World leaders from Scientific and Government Institutions Worldwide

Ben Franklin would have pointed to it, Tesla did and now we have to open it up to save man. Larouche and Witzsche continue to point to the imperial depopulationist oligarchs whose IMF and World Bank power and speculation into currencies has to be stopped.
In effect, we Human Freedom Fighters have some work to do. Let’s get busy
 .

But wait a minute… has the Larouche Movement been DUPED BY THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY?

The NAWAPA plan, or something like it, is definitely in the works.
We explain this at the Water War Crimes web site. http://www.waterwarcrimes.com
The key agreements were signed under cover of the 2010 Olympics, in Vancouver, when Governors frrom US Western States travelled to Canada and signed what were called “:green energy agreements” which is “code” for water agreements. Immediately afterwards, the British Columbia government announced it would proceed to construct a huge reservoir that has been delayed for over 30 years and, about the same time, the Premiers of Canada’s western [provinces announced that, henceforth, they would be stewards for water for all of North America.

Queen Elizabeth then came to her Canadian colony, in the summer of 2010, for ten days and had high level meetings with Canada’s federal government in Ottawa. She departed and travelled to New York City where, in our opinion, she delivered key rights of way documents and other concessions that would legally permit the project to proceed on a sound legal footing. It was her first visit to New York in 35 years.
This year, 2011, Prince William came to his mothers Canadian colony, for 10 days, left, and travelled to California where he had private meetings with Governor Gerry Brown which, assuredly, included discussions about water.
Water exports from Canada is a very sensitive subject so to everything is being done secretly.
The process is underway and it will be a huge public works project that will see rivers of clean fresh water diverted to south western USA and northern Mexico.
The Water War Crimes web site is devoted to exposing and explaining these issues and paints a true but sad story of high level legal, political and judicial corruption in Canada by insiders who tried to corner the monopoly.
There are now 26 sudden deaths linked to the Water War Crimes. These are discussed on the web page entitled the Graveyard of the Guilty.
http://www.waterwarcrimes.com/grave-yard-of-the-guilty—twenty-six-insider-witnesses–defendants-suddenly-die.html
The most disturbing death is that of Michel Trudeau, son of former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau. This appears to have been a ritual murder for reasons that are discussed on the web site.

The plot thickens!

STORY NUMBER THREE

The best I can come up with is the Larouche Movement’s side trip to Walla Walla.

Dateline Whitman University, Walla Walla

“We put a mustache on Rand Paul,” said one of the LaRouche activists, who declined to give her name. “A lot of people deserve the Hitler mustache.” […]

. The women who visited Whitman on Friday traveled from Seattle to Eastern Washington in order to attend a LaRouche conference in Kennewick.

But the dialogue was amongst students; neither students nor the activists felt that a discussion had occurred between them.

“I haven’t heard one actual argument,” said a LaRouche member. “I’m really disappointed in this college.”

Senior Katie DeCramer also expressed disappointment.

“It’s really important to conduct these kind of discussions with respect, and I haven’t seen that,” she said. “From both [the students and the activists’] sides. But I’m happy that people are talking.”

 

 

Dateline  LA JOLLA, Calif. —A picture of President Barack Obama with a Hitler-style mustache is causing concern and outrage in downtown La Jolla.
At the corner of Wall Street and Ivanhoe Avenue, political activists are asking La Jolla residents and visitors to impeach the President, showing two pictures of Obama: one with a mustache and the other, in a straight jacket.
Yelling from behind a table, the two young men from Los Angeles are trying to grab the attention of everyone they can, even if they are ignored.

MASS STRIKE REACTIONS:
So there’s a couple nutty activist somewhere. Is this only being reported because they’re doing their thing in La Jolla?
The LaRouchies have to pull stunts like this to get any attention. I got to know more than I ever wanted to know about them when I lived in the Virginia community they “invaded” when Lyndon LaRouche bought an estate them. They’re real troublemakers and total nuts. It’s hard to know where to place them on the political spectrum, other than exceptionally strange nuts somewhere out in outer space.
On the other hand, at least we know LaRouche is a crook. In a way, that makes him an honest candidate.
POINT / COUNTERPOINT time
Point:  It’s not too far fetched, anyway. He’s a Dictator hell bent on ruining our country and he clearly is anti Israel.
Counterpoint:  Oh, and he’s anti-puppies and kitties. And ice cream. Y’all are a bunch of idiots!

DATELINE Mill Valley
I parked the car and stomped back to the table. Standing there was a very young woman dressed much like any college sophomore. I immediately began yelling at her. I went off on this woman like a Roman candle. I said the obvious: How can you compare our president to a man who systematically exterminated 6 million Jews and millions of others? How can you brazenly insult all the people who lost family in the Holocaust? As I ranted, another young woman joined the first, a cherry-cheeked redhead in her early 20s. She said if I were willing to have a “discussion” they would give me their views. “If you wanted to have a ‘discussion’” I steamed, “you wouldn’t have put up that picture. If you wanted to have a ‘discussion’ your table would feature thought-provoking quotes. What you want is for people like me to go off on you.”
This went on for a while. I yelled, the redhead flung out dubious “facts,” and they both mantra’d that Obama had gained the presidency through a coup d’état, placed into power by the British “empire.” Right there, I should have let it go. Anyone who thinks Britain is still an empire really hasn’t been paying attention. But I stayed.
Even as I ranted like a nut job, I knew I should walk away. Surely, getting such reactions was one of their objectives. The redhead said she could explain the comparison if I would stop interrupting, which was just rude. And I certainly was rude. I get like that around people who want to compare the president of the United States to the man who devised the plan to torture and exterminate entire categories of human beings.

 

Dateline Toronto

Members from the Committee for the Republic of Canada were at Queen and Yonge Streets today raising awareness of their political party.

Yeah, it is pretty hard to remember that political party still exists.

 

 

Dateline Menlo Park When asked the significance of the image, Wesley, one of the supporters who would not share his last name, said: “We’re fighting for policy that can help us regain control of the biosphere. With this administration in office, our nation doesn’t stand a chance.”

One of the main policies about which the two were passionate was as liquid as their mood. They want the country’s water supply redirected and redistributed, so areas of the country that lack water such as Arizona would be less parched.

The group will be holding a Policy Workshop Town Hall at 2 p.m. on Sept. 17 at the Martin Luther King Library in San Jose.

… Well, it’s more press than the NAWAPA conference.

Dateline Hartford
 Dateline Hartland

The group advocates for President Barack Obama’s impeachment, the re-enactment of Glass-Steagall law that would separate commercial and investment banking and create a North American Power and Water Alliance that it says would create millions of jobs.
“We’re trying to awaken the American people,” said Angela Vullo, the press coordinator for the group. “We’re building a political movement.”
People are joining us from the Democrats because they hate Obama. They recognize that Obama’s policies are no different from Bush-Cheney.”
But Jordan Genso, chairperson of the Livingston County Democratic Party, said while some Democrats, including himself, agree with bringing back Glass-Steagall, the rest of the group’s ideas are suspect at best. He said the rhetoric of comparing Obama with Hitler shows the group can’t be taken seriously.
“That is obviously in poor taste and should not be acceptable,” Genso said. “I think they lose all credibility when they go that route. I don’t know what they are trying to achieve with these tactics.” […]
Vullo said LaRouche didn’t break any laws and that the prosecution was because of his ideas.
The group is backing six candidates for congress, including one from Michigan, Bill Roberts. Vullo said Roberts hasn’t decided which congressional district to run in. She also said should couldn’t say whether or when the group would be back in Hartland.
Cheryl Martin, a Tyrone Township Republican, stopped by the table to learn more. She said she supports the group’s idea of removing Obama……

Dateline Hartford “What offended me is that anybody would depict someone as Hitler, who was responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews and millions of other deaths,” Dana said. “It wouldn’t matter if somebody was depicting a Republican that way; it isn’t right. I don’t care what side of the political aisle you’re on, that’s not the right way to go about it.”
Calls from the Daily Press & Argus to the LaRouche Political Action Committee’s office in Detroit and headquarters in Virginia were not returned by press time.
It is not the first time volunteers were from the LaRouche Political Action Committee have made a splash in Livingston County. In June, Fowlerville police asked Redford resident Nick Walsh to take down signs carrying the message “Dump Obama” during the funeral procession for former Fowlerville firefighter Alan Hale. Walsh said he was not targeting the funeral.

Comments:  Just a little fact Dana; Moveon.org did an ad in 2004 comparing Bush to hitler. So I would hope since you don’t have a horse in the race — using your words– that you were as offended then as you are now. But I suspect that is not the case.
(A comment from me…   Moveon ran a contest, and this garnered two Bush-Hitler contest entries, which was then hammered forth by Fox news et al..)

There is very little difference between LaRouche & Obama on most postions of importance.
Signed  Boomalot the proglib slayer

I stopped and talked to a young lady with the Hitler signs. She is so young, she has no concept of the devastation Hitler rained on the world. She had her canned responses and specious reasonings that make feable attempts to justify their (La Rouche’s) position. Maybe, she is getting minimum wage for her efforts. As the Nazi concentration camp and Holocost survivers rapidly diminish in numbers, she may never have the chance to meet one. She should go in to the Holocost Museum-Memorial and make an informed visit. Since La Rouche is 89 years old and allegedly a WWII vet, she says he knows the true story and thus makes an accurate comparision. She needs to make her own informed mind up, instead of swallowing propaganda. (which is a long forgotten word)

Breaking news in Warrenton:
The LaRouche Political Action Committee is at the DMV in Warrenton.
“We are Franklin Roosevelt Democrats,” said Edward Spannanus who is with LaRouchePAC. “We are like the Wig Party or Lincoln Republicans.”

Dateline Conway
Reaction.

STORY NUMBER FOUR: Larouchies play bit part  in DAY OF RAGE protest

The Old Gray Lady:
Organizers said the rally was meant to be diverse, and not all of the participants were on the left. Followers of the right-wing figure Lyndon LaRouche formed a choir near Bowling Green and sang “The Star Spangled Banner” and “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” Nearby, anarchists holding a red and black flag carried knapsacks, sleeping bags and tents.

And a warning shot from the left:

In addition to the US Day of Rage, representatives of Lyndon LaRouche’s group have been openly participating in the general assemblies for September 17. Often portrayed in the media as a tax-dodging, crackpot conspiracy theorist who perennially runs for president, LaRouche is actually a staunch fascist whose views are virulently racist, sexist and anti-LGBTQ.
In the 1970s, members of his progressive-sounding group, the National Caucus for Labor Committees, organized violent physical street attacks on leftists. His personal rhetoric includes vile racist, sexist and homophobic slurs.
It might seem unfathomable for such groups to playing a role in what is seen as a progressive movement. However, the leadership of S17 – whether from an anarchist position or otherwise – is facilitating the inclusion of right-wing forces by a rigorous insistence on no demands and no formal positions.
Ostensibly this is being done as some sort of ecumenical, non-ideological approach that welcomes all views. But the absence of any positions – denigrated as “limiting” by the people who lead the general assemblies – is virtually an open invitation for manipulation by the right.

And a “See here” from the Right:  because he’s a “7 time DEMOCRATIC Presidential candidate”,,,, y’know like George Wallace was a three or four timer, depending on how you count it… blasts from right wing / conservative blogs.

It was the same LaRoucher’ers who had the sign (you can see the URL for a LaRouch website at the bottom of the signs), but will the media react the same way? Will these protesters be branded as extremists because of the presence of these signs in the same way the tea party protesters were?
I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Commenter makes the “sigh” to dispute the blogger’s point.   I just watched the German movie “Blind Spot: Hitler’s Secretary.”  It is a long talking-head interview with 81-year-old Traudl Junge, Hitler’s secretary from 1942-1945.  Her intimate account of aspects of Hitler’s beliefs and personality indicate that the similarities between A.H. and Obama are not a joking matter.  Traudl died before Obama entered public life.

As for LaRouchies, I almost made a point that the New York Times blog post inexplicably called him a “far-right figure” as if that comes even close to describing the idiosyncratic cult of personality that is LaRouche. Though he ran repeatedly as a Democrat and Labour Party candidate, he is a jumbled mess of views and his small band of supporters aren’t really representative of anything but themselves.
They were the same folks who had the Obama-Hitler mustache signs at the Tea Party events last year and the media tended to glom onto those, too, as if they were carried by the Tea Partiers

The LaRouche crew are equal opportunity event crashers.
I wish a NYT reporter would do a piece including interviews on what they think they are gaining by showing up at these divergent events.

Recall that LaRouche’s — whatever started as a splinter of the infamous SDS, then became the “Coalition of Labor Committees”, then…. So, apparently, we are expected to swallow that LaRouche’s organization used to be “extreme left”, but some time when nobody was looking the movement became “extreme right”.… Which also reminds me of the occasion when TIME identified David Duke as a “libertarian”, an identification supported by nothing whatsoever, and refused to retract it.
(dodgy reasoning, but who cares?)


I have spoke to them a few times as they are making the rounds on the North Shore. The Tea Party members dont like that type of stuff and actually ask them to leave but it is a free Country. The best part is LaRouche ran as a (D) , and is all about the Glass Steagall and has zero to do with the tea Party but a picture is worth a thousand words and a million when its ran on 100 networks

Spoke too soon, this tpm commentor:
 They have signs that are spelled correctly, no references to the Constitution,  no references to socialism or Hitler, and NO GUNS, These are not true patriots and Americans! 
I note that the last time I saw Jon Stewart make a quick dig at Tea Party “Hitler” analogy posters, he went to a non-Larouchie one — probably the most prominent non-Larouche Obama Hitler poster one you get when you google — I think it’s likely in 2009, he’d have gone with the Larouchie one.  Just… things to watch and pay attention to.

And a “Bleh” from everyone else.

Rage? As much as I love choral music there is a time and place for everything. If this is extent of the “rage” that the bankers are going to face then I think we are F-d. They will continue loot and steal more of the tax-payers money just to get a free concert.
Fuck. it’s a shame, but you are right. -.- these people are dumbed down as shit can be. docile sheep awaiting the final.

Lyndon LaRouche supporters, always happy to help muddle issues further, showed up at all three of the protests that Zombie & Co. covered. After giving the Tea Party a black eye by waving their Obama-as-Hitler signs at conservative rallies, I guess the LaRouchesters have decided it’s time to embrace “the Rage”.

Organizers said the rally was meant to be diverse, and not all of the participants were on the left. Followers of the fringe political candidate Lyndon LaRouche formed a choir near Bowling Green and sang “The Star Spangled Banner” and “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” Nearby, anarchists carried sleeping bags and tents.

Larouchies are leeches and are not participating in the organizing that is going on in Zuccotti Park. So, this is a nice smear but it is very cynical. Actual organizing is taking place and anyone who has any shred of idealism about living in a society where Wall Street doesn’t control the direction of politics should at the very least be intrigued.
I believe you are intrigued. You should be. But that’s why I cannot believe you lead with a photo of someone from LarouchePAC holding up an Obama is Hitler sign (which I know is from 2009 and not now). They just show up and stand by protests to get attention. What do you do? Start an altercation? Tell them to run away? Then a fight happens and police step in?
And how is what you are doing with this post any different from some right winger going to a rally like “One Nation Working Together” in October last year and taking photos of only socialists and communists in attendance and then saying “Look! This is who these people really are!”?
Your post attempts to brand them as a group inclusive of fringe lunatics who consider Obama to be Hitler. I don’t think there is any proof any serious organizers of the occupation support LarouchePAC at all.
There was Reagan as Hitler…Bush I as Hitler…Bush II as Hitler…there had to be Nixon as Hitler, too.  Gerald Ford?…Chevy Chase had that covered – not a Hitler, though.

And who’s excited, but Howie G!

STORY NUMBER FIVE: MEDIA INTERVIEWS

OMFG.  Listen to the introduction for this radio program, sometime early in the morning in New Orleans, that interviewed Harley Schlanger.  Do with the rest of it whatever you want, but that jingle… good god almighty, radio sucks.

Hm.  Also Medicare wants to search your computer !
Different guest, but is there a bright demarcation there?
Also Larouche appeared on something, somewhere — but I lost the link.  I’m sure he Declared Obama is the “Loser of the Century” and went from there.
According to American economist Lyndon LaRouche, the world’s most accurate economic forecaster since his first forecast in 1956,Well, here’s a book in Turkey for you.

 STORY NUMBER SIX… WHO IS BEING COMPARED TO WHOM?

the breivek reference to eir surfaces about.

Ron Paul is the Lyndon LaRouche of the Republican Party. He doesn’t deserve a place in any debate.

The Creature from the Black Lagoon at first appears to be some type of eldritch horror risen from the depths and unable to communicate with it’s victims and giving the viewer a sense of visceral dread…..until you spot the zipper on the back of the rubber suit.  In the same way followers of political and cult leader Lyndon LaRouche seem terrifying and incomprehensible with their pamphlets explaining how Al Gore is Hitler and how Dick Cheney is conspiring with Satan…until you see them singing.  Then, much like the Creature from the Black Lagoon, you can’t help but laugh at them.

9 September – So how does Dr. Kate react to President Obama’s speech about creating jobs??  Why by repeating a claim by Lyndon LaRouche that Obama is mentally unfit for office!!  Because Lyndon LaRouche is SO reliable a source…….if you’re completely insane that is.

Cliff Kincad — “AmericanThinker” and the anti-Communist anti-Soviet anti-Conspiracy Theorist nutcase conspiracy.  Pondering the Alex Jones connection.
Considering that Russia carted WMD’s out of Iraq, compromised (via NATO) the entire OIF order of battle to Saddam Hussein’s regime, and (recently) bombed the American Embassy in Georgia, can it really be argued that Russia and it’s KGB (now FSB) have honestly changed since the “demise” of the Soviet Union?  That Russia considers itself an enemy of the United States may be a profoundly unpleasant conclusion, but it is a necessary one.
One cannot help but wonder if Alex Jones unwittingly is helping the Russian FSB to incite the American right against their own country?  The same tactics have worked effectively on the American left for decades.

And will the USA join the rest of the global protesters to shut this looting of civilization down with Lyndon LaRouche?
What say you?
I’ve followed LaRouche for a while now and what are you people talking about? We need to shut this speculation scam going to wall street which includes looting in the form of cutting everything in sight,this Obama is doing the cutting and making the USA bailout the vultures with the monies normally funding everything in the civilized world?
LaRouche is demanding job creation with the looted monies by shutting down the thieves with Glass-Steagall?
How does that make one “Insane”?
bring back nasa!!

larouche is a nutzoid.

Ya its the space shuttle launch thats going to wake everyone up….

La Rouche is insane and so are his followers.

@StopFear Lindon LaRouche is still around?? I remember he ran for president way back when. The supporters used to hang out at airports trying to recruit people, like Moonies. The LaRouchies published something like the Watchtower.

Larouche on Andrew Gause’s “The Real World of Money” on the  “One Radio Network”.
Andrew Gause may just be the top man anywhere for the highest quality analysis into the world of money we all live in.

Dumm und dümmer ist wohl die beste Beschreibung.

Ron Paul versus Larouche at GodlikeProductions.

Ron Paul could never win.
Wake up Ron. Admit it. You are behind the eight ball. Nothing is on public record to suggest you could win a debate against Larouche.
And YOU know it.
I’m bored of your sophistry MR PAUL.
Ron Paul would SHIT himself against such opposition. Mr Paul … prove yourself in the confines of world politics.
Have a stab Mr Paul! Take on Lyndon Larouche in battle.

Michele Bachmann’s attacks on Perry from LaRouche land seem to have had an impact too — on her own candidacy, as she has slipped behind Newt Gingrich.

Other famous perennial presidential candidates include William Jennings Bryan, Henry Clay, Alan Keyes and Lyndon LaRouche.

Because Ron Paul and Lyndon Larouche are oh so similar:
I can see the implementation of a large internationally mutual project being an effective bridging of foreign relations, such as that of NAWAPA (proposed by Lyndon LaRouche). The LaRouche PAC team and I do not quite see eye to eye on everything (they do not endorse my support of Ron Paul, stating that they think his views on the correction of the monetary system as being “unconstitutional”, citing instead a Hamiltonian credit-based system as their one and only solution, as opposed to a gold backed monetary system. I believe this is because this credit system would be the only way they could see the NAWAPA Project being expediantly fundable. Just my suspicion, mind you, and I am not completely unresponsive to their Hamiltonian credit system, I merely choose to direct my efforts, at this time, towards a more viable and immediate solution, with that being the possibility of Ron Paul becoming President in the next election) but I only wish to pursue workable solutions for the benefit of mankind, and thus, I do promote NAWAPA. If you are not aware of it already, please check it out. It is a very interesting and promising mega-infrastructural project designed to provide water, power, transportation and fertile land to areas of the world which are currently lacking it.

Chris, I do not understand the credibility you place in LaRouche. In the course of chasing errands earlier this summer, I spotted a political table in front of the post office. I was some distance from it in the parking lot, but saw clearly a large poster of Obama with the “Hitler moustache” painted on his face. Alongside that was another poster, large lettering proclaiming, “Bring Back Glass-Steagall.” The two posters seemed, together, a contradiction: Lettering a message is very different from desecrating a photo of ANY human face.
I had never seen a political table like this, so I approached to dialog in order to learn the who, what, etc. of the messages. It took several attempts on my part to assure the young man behind the table that I was not there to argue, but to understand their point of view. At one point he said, “Okay, you’ve passed the test,” at which point it seemed to me he articulated that he believed I was sincere in wanting to understand. However, the long and short of it is, he would not inform me of any stance he held; rather, trying to hand me any number of papers to read and referring to a website of La Rouche. When I persisted in wanting to “hear from him,” he began to articulate koans. ( n in Zen Buddhism – a problem or riddle that admits no logical solution)
Other women had arrived at the table, a couple of them immediately critical of the Obama Hitler moustache. He said it wasn’t HItler’s moustache, but that of Charlie Chaplin…to which I replied, “you know very well a first reaction to this moustache would not be Charlie Chaplin…many people do not even know who Charlie Chaplin was.” When he continued responding with koans, the women simply became more frustrated with him. I explained to them what a koan was, and then the other person behind the table, a young woman who’d been talking on her cell phone the whole time, said, laughing, “You’ll never get anywhere with him, he’s a philosopher.” She, though, also did not acknowledge the questions any of us “seekers” were asking. One of the questions I had was “Who do you support, then, for President?” No answer.
I finally left, astonished that someone who had set up a political table had no interest in conversing informatively with those who showed up for information. And it troubles me that young minds are not able to function person-to-person. Truth is like pollen–carried by all of us anywhere in many forms. I, for one, am not looking for a gospel or a charismatic figure to follow. One of the things I value about the Kauilapele’s Blog is that you seem to dip and sift as I do.

 The Constitutional Amendment is a good one to consider as is Glass Steagall, but with just La Rouche and Nader pushing it will take more people knowing about them. How could the Socialists who call themselves Progressive. Ralph calls ...

Tarpley versus Celente for 9/11 Truther Supremacy. Larouche sidelined.

Sunday, September 11th, 2011

Happy Birthday to you… Star Trek.

I am a bit surprised not to see more 9/11 Truth droppings in regards to Larouche.  Maybe I’ll have to wait a day to see this percolate.
On the eve of the 10th anniversary commemorations of the 9/11 atrocity, LaRouchePAC-TV posted a blockbuster video which rips the mask off […]
Woot!
Different time, maybe:  I do think 9/11 Truth was a big “in” in getting youth recruits during the Bush Administration.  As these things do, the 9/11 Truth bits continue to float about in chunks.  This pops up again, dropped in, from the Larouche “got it figured out” finale of 2009:

Elements of the story have already been reported in EIR, and Larouche instinctively pointed to the true nature of the operation, in a now-famous radio interview that he gave to the Salt Lake City-based syndicated radio host Dr. Jack Stockwell.

OR…

Eight months before the September 11, 2001 attacks, Lyndon Larouche forecast that the United States was at high risk for a Reichstag Fire event, an event that would allow those in power to manage through dictatorial means an economic collapse or something.

This is notable

Obama’s Thursday speech was a negative, blaming, angry, rant…enough to once again raise Obama’s inherent disability under the Twenty-fifth Amendment.  Lyndon LaRouche, among others, calls for his immediate removal from office.
I’m going to be hearing Herman Cain speak today and if I have a chance to ask him a question I will ask him the BIG # ONE QUESTION!!!
Because there are several 9/11 Truther comments that follow (nobody biting on Herman Cain?) , as well a Birther Summit item on the sidebar — just to get the big doing do of Bush Administration in with the big doing do of the Obama Administration.

How many secrets stayed secret there? Idiots from the far right of Lyndon Larouche to the far left of Rosie O’Donnell need to shut up about this one. There were a lot of casualties associated with 9-11.

Well, more officially than “some person with a blog”, it’s 9/11 Truth from Senior Iranian Diplomat
“The first stage of this interaction was the attack on Afghanistan. Some researchers, by relying on lots of evidence, believe that America itself is the cause behind the event[s] of 9/11. LyndonLaRouche, a former American presidential candidate ..

And we have an interview with Perry Clark here, the top elected Larouchie in the United States.

But no matter how true Perry Clark’s heart is, facts are facts. He has plenty to say about the condition of the working class in Louisville that should be heard, but the more he talks about LaRouche and Hitler and controlled demolitions, the less credibility he’s bound to have.

Hey.  This is interesting dissenting view.
 We know about LaRouche and his zionist-apologist whackos vis-a-vis 9/11, but who is this imbecille Farrell??

Hm.
Henry Makow:  According to a report by Lyndon Larouche’s Executive Intelligence Review, the ADL is a lobbying and intelligence arm of the Rothschilds. If Abe Foxman is an indication, anti-Semitism is caused by the behavior of certain Jews.

In other news… NAWAPA Is the Only Viable Solution… except for Glass Steagall.
……………………..

CAMPAIGN NEWS.

 

Diane Sare, LaRouche Democratic candidate in New Jersey, delivered this address to a joint town hall meeting held along with Rachel Brown in Brookline, MA on August 31, 2011. We play her address in full as part of today’s New Presidency series. Diane speaks about the emotion needed to muster the courage to fight a war, using quotations from US history.

Wow!  Diane Sare and Rachel Brown teaming up!  Could this be a preview of the 2016 Presidential ticket?  But again…

LaRouche and the LPAC Basement Team warned you earlier this year that we are now in a period where you are going to need more than a weather man to tell you which way, and why, the wind blows.

Is calling it the “Basement Team” just a means of making sure nobody takes it seriously, so they can continue to act “in the shadows” (ala Dick Cheney)?

Another interpretation takes the form of a video clip on the LaRouche Political Action Committee web site. Presented by Oyang Teng of the LaRouche Basement Research Team. Suggesting these experiments have proven the fallibility of current climate models, he says that, “…rather than revise current models, it’d probably be better to scrap them altogether and rebuild climate science on a whole new basis of actual experimental work.”

……………………………

Wikipedia Comedy Gold!
Silly things the Larouchies tried to insert into wikipedia.
Extremist to Leftist.  Conspiracism into “Opposing”.  And most impressively and hilariously.
“conspiracy theorist, fascist, and anti-Semite, and have characterized his movement as a cult” turns into “threat to mainstream views”.
Maybe he’s referencing this:
5 Dangerous Presidential Candidates“.  He’s number 3.
OR…
Dan Schmitt, Marshalltown Central Iowa
The British Monetary System is dead. […]  The reason that most people do not know of this is that Mr. LaRouche is not allowed public press. Isn’t that a shame in this country of freedom of speech. All of this could happen at any moment or it could all be lost, we need our country back.
Really.  Free Speech issue that everyone ignores him?  Okay.

“Resident Anthropolist” wiped out the entire list of “connection with other groups”.  And shortened its current ideological placement.
Jayen466 did quite a wolloping through the field of “History of Harrassments”.
(cur | prev) 12:15, 11 September 2011 Jayen466 (talk | contribs) (112,117 bytes) (→Harassment of politicians: rmv unsourced (and redundant))
(cur | prev) 12:14, 11 September 2011 Jayen466 (talk | contribs) (112,270 bytes) (→Harassment of politicians: rmv Kissinger, Stevenson already mentioned above)
(cur | prev) 12:12, 11 September 2011 Jayen466 (talk | contribs) (112,457 bytes) (→Harassment of politicians: rmv redundancy, already clearly stated)
(cur | prev) 12:10, 11 September 2011 Jayen466 (talk | contribs) (112,797 bytes) (→Harassment of politicians: rmv redundancies)
(cur | prev) 12:03, 11 September 2011 Jayen466 (talk | contribs) (112,948 bytes) (→Alleged violence and harassment: shortening, rmv redundancies, name member)

One more item.  For Webster Tarpley, a piece of bathroom graffiti.  It adds nothing to World Culture, and is very crass and low-brow, so we know it can’t be a Larouchie:
 Tarpley is also widely known within the conspiracy community for his unusually large penis, standing a tall 13” when fully erect, beating Gerald Celente by a mere 0.1”.

Yeah, this looks like a good competitor for wikipedia.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche
Looks like it produces a better larouche article, at least.

………………………………………………………………………..

The wikipedia battle pops into full view in the dailykos comments here.  I particularly the reference to the “Nasty Duckling”, which is an apt quotation that the Larouchies tried to get rid of a while ago.

POST OFFICE TOUR COVERED BY DAILY KOS DIARIST… receives triple digits of response

I tried again.
“How many people died in the holocaust?”
I figured he’d be able to regurgitate something like that.
“Um, Two hundre mil….”
I didn’t let him finish the answer.  I probably should have.  I asked him a different question.
“How many people does Lyndon Larouche say died in the holocaust?”
“I don’t know.”
I didn’t make an argument for Obama, nor did I argue against the offensive imagery in the sign.  I stayed there for at least an hour.  I asked them to tell me why Larouche thinks Raisa Gorbachev attempted to assassinate him in his home. 
Q.  What do they get taught in “Camp Larouche?” A.  “Dump Obama”
It was pretty obvious what they are taught.  They are taught that their bread and butter is going to be senior men.  Every time they see a man who is older than 60 walk out of the post office, they immediately accost him.
“Are you ready to dump Obama?”
Maybe they get a bite.  Maybe they don’t.
My strategy was to get them to advocate for a candidate.  They couldn’t.  They simply don’t know anything about the insane man who is earning money off of their ignorance.
[……]
I asked them to justify their support for their guy.  I asked this over and over and over.  I can be really annoying, just ask my kids.
Eventually, one of them just said, “He’s not going to win! Okay!”   I thought that was  pretty good “get.” I made sure that other people were aware of his opinion.
He tried to film me.  My job requires me to stand up in front of crowds of 300 people and do public speaking with Q and A being a main part of the job.  As he filmed me, I repeated facts about Larouche.  He tried to act as if I were afraid of him.  I was slightly agitated, but not overly so.   He eventually stopped filming.
He insisted that I was breaking the law by being in his space.  As you no doubt are aware, by making their advocacy public, they are open to as much criticism as I can possibly dish out.  I let them know this fact.
“I’m calling the police!”
He tried to compare the harassment he was receiving to the scenario of a single woman who is being targeted by someone.   I told him that the current scenario would make more sense if the woman were a Democratic Party representative, and she was standing there making arguments for the Dems, but was unwilling to answer any questions regarding the political positions of those Dems.
He asked me to leave. I told him that I’d leave when I felt like it.  They had come to my neighborhood, and I was doing what any right thinking person should do.  I was protecting my neighborhood from them.
This is the best part of all.
He called the police.  I told the guy that what he did was an unfortunate mistake.
1.  “Not only are you wrong about free speech,” I said, “but you also made it so that I am forced to stay here!  I can’t leave when you’ve called the police.  That would be irresponsible!”  (In this case, 1.  is plenty.  2 is not required.)
So I waited.  They failed over and over and over.  I asked them if I could have some of their newsletters.  They refused to share them with me.  I asked them about the magazine they had.  They told me that it cost 5 dollars.  I looked at it.  It said, “5.00 contribution.”
I guessed that they weren’t able to sell it, because they would break some campaign laws.  I told them that it was probably a legal error on their part to tell me that it costs money to purchase.  I told them, “Really, I could just take that, right?”
He told me that I was being an asshole.  I agreed.  I told the one with the beard, “Yes, you’re right, I’m being an asshole, but being an asshole is not illegal.”
Eventually, the police came.  The officer huddled with the Larouchies.  The Larouchies complained that I was interrupting their discussions.
I noticed afterwards that the police had parked their cruiser in front of the “Huge Meat Sandwich” store up the road.  I can only assume that they weren’t all that interested in the Larouchies, but more likely they wanted a sandwich.
The officer walked over to me.  He clarified that I was interrupting them.  I was fully confident that what I was doing was within the bounds of the law.  The officers confirmed that.
I felt like rubbing it in a little bit, so I made sure to clarify a couple things for myself and the Larouchies.  I asked how far into their space I could go.  I asked if it was necessary for me to have an official looking table to act as a counterprotest.  No, of course not.
The police went to get their sandwiches.
In the entire time I stood there with the Larouchies, they were able to get one person to fill out a form.  Whether they would have gotten more, or whether that guy actually signed it as a statement of support for them, because I was harassing the larouchies…  I don’t know.
Here’s what I said before I left them to their own devices:
“Well, it looks like you’re failing pretty well all by yourselves, so I’ll let you guys at that.”

COMMENTSPALOOZA

In “Breakfast of Champions,” Kurt Vonnegut has a great sentiment:
“Bad ideas and bad chemicals are the yin and yang of madness.”
In the context of the book, the bad chemicals are already going on, and it’s just the one bad idea that is needed to motivate someone towards horrific actions.
Bad chemicals are going to happen.  I figure it’s my job to do my best to mediate the number of bad ideas that are available for public consumption.  Or, at the very least, it’s important for people to see that any bad idea will have direct opposition.

. If one talks to them; the first thing they say is, vote for larouche and he’ll legalize marijuana. My response always is; “how bad do you think I want to get high”?

I note that alongside the Holocaust denial stuff, he denounces jazz (that crazy jazz music!) as a dangerously “Aristotelian” influence on impressionable young minds. Who knew that jazz was an insidious tool of “the oligarchy?”

I agree with you, but that’s not why I applaud your confrontational stance with the Larouchies rather than liken them to the Christians and champion their contention with you. I don’t like the Larouche supporters because they are a bunch of sneaky, opportunistic jerks who do nothing except piss everyone off with their claptrap. Everyone with half a brain knows that Larouche himself is a nut job, but we could easily ignore him were it not for the annoying persistence of his delusional supporters.

My local Democratic organization is infested with a squad of these cretins who attend the meetings, but don’t shell out the money to join. We have to tolerate them because it’s a public meeting, but we don’t let them address the group! One of our bylaws is that you must be a member to speak.

The other weekend a local Jewish fellow who happens to have an African-America wife just snapped and began bellowing at the LaRouchies, telling them to take down their damn signs.  Quite an uproar resulted.  Eventually someone a half-block away called the police who came in and calmed down the local citizen.  The LaRouchie’s response?  They hung up another Obama as Hitler poster.  It had worked for them, so they were playing to their strength.

Are those young zealots paid for their Saturday morning efforts?  or are they really the morons they appear to be?  Is there no way to get them off public property?

I  once actually read LaRouche’s book on pitch and it is the oddest combination of numerology and some sort of music-of-the-spheres morality tale about tuning.  Of course, the fact that A=440 is an accepted industrial standard and that changing it at this late date would be impossibly expensive does not even come up in his fat, pretentious, utterly insane book.
Goodness! And I just went out……..and bought a very nice (used) Moeck Rottenburg Alto, Ebony hardwood…. A=440Hz. Was I really serving Satan?!?! Who knew?!?!

Wow! Dude takes his classical music seriously.
The same article goes on to note that by Larouche’s account, Vivaldi doesn’t have the “fundamental emotion,” whatever the heck that is. Presumably, those sun-dappled Italians were insufficiently weighty for our Platonic hero. Maybe Bruckner was more his speed.
Plato believed that music was overtly dangerous, and must be regulated by the state. He was worried that certain modes would be too decadent, and insufficiently warlike; their use would corrupt the good citizens of the Republic. I’m guessing that that’s the derivation of Larouche’s ideas… such as they are.
So Plato was more of a Def Leppard fan instead of maybe Iron Maiden.

They freak when I take their picture.   At first they maintain their standard welcome face, but their eyes start to wiggle when I hold up my cellphone.

The LaRouche organization is actually only a fundraising scheme. They exist only to funnel money back to LaRouche. The point of those Obama as Hitler posters is to capture some pocket change from the Obama haters. If they could make money using Obama as Jesus posters, they would use those.  I know, because I have some in-laws who are hard core LaRouchies.  I think I’d prefer wingnut in-laws, actually.

a nasty duckling who grew up to be a nasty duck.

I saw the idiots outside of our post office. (Here in Marin County, ferchrissake, like, get a clue!  There are hardly any places in the whole country more “blue” than here.  Duh.)  There were two of ’em, like your encounter.
I didn’t see the “Obama as Hitler” sign until I got out of the car.   I stood staring at them for a long moment (about 20 yards away), and they starting fidgeting expectantly, like, either I was coming to talk to ’em, or to “harass” ’em.  They couldn’t tell which.
I was so itching to go and do what you did, otto.  But I went on about my p.o. business.  I stared at ’em again when I came back out, and they started fidgeting again, looking back at me.
I sat in the car on the curb for some long moments, trying to decide if it was worth it to me to go “engage” ’em.   While I pondered, an attractive, petite senior came up to ’em and started talking with ’em.  I couldn’t hear the conversation, but I was two-thumbs-up when I saw her step back to take their picture with her cell phone.  (Musta been a Kossack! 😉  They seemed uncomfortable with her photographing them, but they tried to be stoic about it.   I could see her angling to make sure she got the LaDouche sign and the Obama-as-Hitler sign in the photo with ’em.  Tee hee.

Way back in 1972-3, LaRouche ran “National Caucus of Labor Committees” or NCLC.  They were nominally ultra-leftist.  In Washington, DC, they targetted co-op bookstores popular as left-wing projects in those days.  I was involved in one near Dupont Circle.
They sought to seize control of the bookstores and convert them to fronts for their organization. We resisted and ejected the NCLC stooges (multiple times as they kept returning).
On my walk home from one such “struggle session”, I was jumped and beaten senseless by the NCLC accolytes dressed in black.
The degree of thought control the LaRouchian establish over their pawns is criminal and dangerous.

Past experience with Larouchies myself. At Washington National, the table was up and the pitchguys and gals were singing out about how Real Americans ought to Feed Jane Fonda To The Whales!”, one of the then current Larouchie hot buttons. So while i was waiting for my plane, i pulled out a magic marker and the cardboard back from a legal pad and made a little sign that read “Feed Lyndon Larouche to Jane Fonda!” and vamped up and down in front of their table, which for some reason got the three of them mad, so the young lady started calling me filthy names. and on the front of their table was the then-latest, pre-Giant Hydropower Thing slogan, “Nuclear Power is Safer Than Sex!” So I just had to ask the young lady whose identity was apparently under stress, “When was the last time you had sex with a fast breeder reactor, and which part was it you were particularly involved with?” good thing my plane was called before the police had to get into it…

Sounds like one of my numerous run-ins. But usually they tell me the police they will call is one of their brothers-in-law or something. They tried physical intimidation once, pushing up nose-to-nose with me, but I guess me backing away and flipping their table over went into the hive-mind as not a productive way to go for them.
Anyway, they never came back to my post office after that.
The funniest things are LaRouche saying “Well, I warned President Kennedy that..” and posters of himself pasted next to Dr. King, as if he was connected with them.

His grinning zombies were handing out these extraordinary brochures in Boston in the early 1980s, all full of railing about the gold standard and beam weapons.  He seriously was advocating not just the Star Wars program, but beam weapons in space.

These guys are so annoying, wherever they pop up. I even saw them in Germany a couple of months ago and was horrified. They looked so normal and nice, and the signs didn’t say anything about Lyndon LaRouche, but when I walked up to talk to them they were just as nasty as their American counterparts. It’s like they’re a magnet for all the obnoxious and mean-spirited people of the world, and I’m just glad there aren’t enough of them to ever gain traction.

At first it looked like a totally homegrown movement to protest the Euro and reintroduce the Deutsche Mark. I was curious.

P1070757But when I walked by the table again later and a guy waved me to come talk to him, it turned out that their nice sounding People’s Solidarity Movement (bueso.de) was just a front for hawking the LaRouche cult.

P1070897It took about 10 minutes of a progressively deteriorating conversation until the LaRouche name was dropped, and not surprisingly, that’s when he got absolutely nasty and started calling me names.

I read the article at your link about Larouche’s support for NAWAPA.  He seems endearingly indifferent to an Canadian input in this idea.  Maybe he knows it wouldn’t be supportive.  Heh.
The reason he selected the plan that already existed is only because it’s less work than making a new one.
He knows that it stands absolutely no chance at happening, but he needs something to say he’s for.  Otherwise, he can’t manage any donations or sucker people to work for him.

Last time I saw a trio of Larouchies was at a John Edwards (yeah, I know) event in NYC. They started asking him dumbass questions about the Bilderbergers and all that crap. Me and a couple of other people started hooting them down, but I have to say that they were damn near as good as Fred Phelps and his lot. One guy in particular with a black belt in passive-aggressiveness was just begging for a beatdown, and I was about to oblige him when I managed to get ahold of myself and realized what was happening.

Over here in the 26th LD, we had them show up to our March Dems meeting, where they wound up in the same discussion group as the Kisap County Dems’ chair. As you can probably imagine, another verbal takedown quickly ensued. There were three of thm and one of him, and they kept trying to interrupt him, which was another mistake, because he called them on rudeness in front of everybody, then skillfully attacked and dismantled everything they said. You do not mess with the Kitsap County Chair 🙂 .

“They’re getting paid”.

I guess that explains something.  On the other hand, you can have the same sort of discussion with e.g. Trotskyites, who are emphatically NOT getting paid and have no more understanding of what they’re advocating.  They’re just agin what’s happenin’ now.

Cliche, but it must be all about getting back at your parents.

I love a political conversation and good-spirited eye poking as much as the next guy; but I have too little tolerance for outright idiocy to waste time on the Larouchies.  I just know I’d quickly devolve into “you guys are nuts!” territory if I started up with them.
You give me incentive, however, for maybe giving it another try in the hopes of getting the police called.  I love dealing with the police on a courteous basis when I’m on solid ground legally.  Even the young and inexperienced rookies seem to have a passing understanding of what the Bill of Rights prevents them from doing.

They occasionally set up outside Trader Joe’s
which is two doors down from the P.O. here. When I have the energy to do more than yell “Morons” at them, I make sure I mention how old he is and his criminal past. Loudly. You might want to make that part of your script.

As a presidential candidate, LaRouche has to file quarterly reports with the FEC.  They’re a hoot!
Every quarter since July 2008, he has sent them exactly the same 3200-plus page report, changing only the covering period and filing date.  In it, he says he has $6,253.76 cash on hand and $1,218,817.34 in debts.  Most of those debts are zero-interest loans from contributors, which have been carried over from … wait for it …
1 9 8 4    !!
Surely more than a few of those lenders are long dead.  Every quarter, he also details the very same never-paid charges for office rental, ad buys, telephone, canvassing, attorneys, and so on.

In earlier years, the reports were photocopies of a huge pile of hand-written pages.  Before 2008, he also reported on “expenditures subject to limitation”, which totalled $3,847,912.14 for many years.

[NOTE:  those links are PDFs]

Wish I could do what you did  but I don’t think I could maintain a straight face long enough.

ah, larouchies.  meatspace Internet trolls.

MORE FROM ANOTHER BLOGGER

Crazy going mainstream is the story of this generation, but more dangerous when crazy goes undercover. I saw the Larouchies at the health care town halls in Rhode Island, and they were playing up to the Tea Party people big time. Middle aged white people were carrying around the Obama/Hitler magazines as if they thought that image was just fine. So many are ready to cry Nazi every time they get a parking ticket, perhaps the discourse has been polluted beyond saving, and the people really believe that Hitler was infamous for declaring that no one should be denied health care for being poor.
Otto noticed that the Larouchies were tacking right with the older folks, and left with the younger ones. Same can of worms- different branding. […]
But some of what I see on the left-wing sites is so hateful in a personal way, and came on so early, that I suspect chameleons like Lyndon Larouche as a source. Extremes tend to go full circle and meet at the fringes. Not all the left wing anger, even when over the top and personal, is insincere. Some of it, though, is coming from the extreme right and other ideologies, packaged to appeal to lefties and progressives.

At one Town Hall I confronted a young black man who was carrying a stack of magazines with the Hitler/Obama image. Did that man know anything about Black History, or about WWII and the real Hitler whose atrocious regime lives on in the memories of people yet alive? Would the good people of Warwick, who sat in that Town Hall fanning themselves with Larouche’s magazine have signed on as allies of Larouche if they knew anything about the man?

I’m deep in end of life issues and government health care these days, seeing my father through Hospice. The nasty accusations that talking about mortality is the next step to ‘death panels’ is such a destructive lie. Without government health care, my parents, like millions of Americans on Medicare, would face a financial crisis as well as a health crisis. And during the debate, the loudest voices were spreading wild rumors from unclear sources, to the benefit of business as usual.

We used to encounter Larouchites on airport patrol at O’Hare( we checked west coast and southwestern flights for illegal aliens early mornings)in the early 70′s.They were obnoxious to put it mildly.
They occasionally would find out where people lived if the person gave them a hard time by tracing the plates(easy back then)and harrass them at home.
One afternoon I came home from an early shift and my wife had a wman in the house explaining an anti-drug “community”program-something about the name of the group rang a bell-I asked her flat out if she was a Larouche supporter and when she said yes,I threw her out(not physically).It was a snaeaky approach in my opinion.
One prominent Larouhite turned out to be a former member of Rockwell’s American Nazi Party-one Roy Frankhouser from Pennsylvania.

I saw one of their tables at a rest stop in New Hampshire when they were on some conspiracy theory that witches were hexing the nation. I wanted to go up to the guy and wave my pentagram at him, but my husband held me back. Just as well, there’s no reasoning with them.
But where they find disciples–that’s what I’d like to know. The crew at the West Warwick town hall were a bunch of nice looking kids, and they were actually singing some classical music quite beautifully as they handed out their hate literature.
Flinging around Nazi accusations not only debases our current politics, it disrespects all the living and dead who suffered that history.
And so it goes:   GO TO THE LAROUCHE WEBSITE AND SEE THE SOLUTIONS IT IS ALL THERE OBAMA IS A LIAR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED NOW THERE IS NO HOPE FOR MANKIND IF THIS BUM STAYS IN OFFICE HE IS WORSE THAN HITLER.
………………………………………………………………………………………

Remembering different political activists.  Mr. Boneberg, a hippie from Buffalo who briefly lived on a commune, served as executive director of Mobilization Against AIDS, one of the first such activist organizations, and became something of a political firebrand. He remembers the divisive issue of whether to close the bathhouses, which had been considered “core institutions” of the city’s gay culture, at the epidemic’s height. He was a leader of the successful campaign to defeat an AIDS quarantine ballot initiative proposed by Lyndon LaRouche.

Whoever wins in the Anthony Weiner race, this perennial candidate will be missed.  If I could, and the Prohibition Party was not running a candidate, I’d resort to Plan B: write in “The nice lady who helps my at the Stop N Shop.” She has been a candidate in more races than Eugene V. Debs, Harold Stassen, Lyndon Larouche.

 

Webster Tarpley:  He is a former Lyndon Larouche Democrat and almost all of his recommendations are right out out of Larouche’s playbook. I’m talking about the global maglev train system, moon & Mars colonization, 1000 hospitals etc – all Larouche’s ideas…

Va. court to consider whether to toss incest conviction of former King confidant who has died  Bevel was the architect of the 1963 Children’s Crusade in Birmingham, Ala. At the time of Mills’ abuse, he was working closely with the Virginia-based organization of political extremist Lyndon LaRouche.

Dr. Deagle and Harley Schlanger
Steinberg on Iran TV

…………………………….

Who’s he being compared to now:

There is no way to describe this comment but to call it as it is: totally bug-eyed crazy. Crazy that you can smell. Crazy with its own ZIP Code. I don’t care what Ron Paul polls he has no more business in a GOP debate than Lyndon LaRouche has in a Democrat debate.

 Lyndon Larouche called, and he’s not even sure why Huntsman got so much screen time.

The Guardian criticizes Obama:  “New Deal Or No Deal
Paul, for his part, subscribes to the fringe view that recessions have nothing to do with aggregate demand at all, but rather are caused by structural misallocations of capital: there’s actually plenty of money lying around, we just can’t find it. Mainstream economists on all sides of the spectrum give this theory about as much credence as they do Lyndon LaRouche’s theories on the Queen of England’s control of the international drug trade.

It might could be the LaRouchies that Hoffa is worried about. It never hurts to be clear.

I guess one difference could be that Ron Paul can hide the crazy a lot of the time, whereas LaRouche’s nuttiness was always on full display… ;).

 

. Yes Ron Paul has his good points but he is not the only one, and having acolytes dissing everyone else makes him look too much like Lyndon Larouche. StudyLarouche if you want to understand why acolytes are

Then there’s the example of Lyndon LaRouche, a certifiable mad man who ran for president as a Democrat many times, yet had ideas that were not at all in keeping with Democratic Party principles or platforms. LaRouche made Rick Perry look like a wise, progressive, and thoughtful man. But, hey, LaRouche called himself a Democrat, so we should all believe him. Just like we should all believe that the conservative, GOP-leaning sheriff of Milwaukee is a Democrat, just because he always runs on that ticket, just because that’s the best way to win a MIlwaukee County race for sheriff.

I’d kinda like to have a good time again. Seriously, where is Lyndon LaRouche when you need him? Not that he’d be much help, but what the hell, can’t quantify crazy…
  see too.

 

Not racist, and here’s a list of presidents and presidents I’ve criticized who are white…  Must be a Harold Stassen supporter, as he’s not on the list.

Rick Perry — Fred Thompson and Barry Goldwater’s Lovechild – Throw in the seeds of Pat Robertson and Lyndon Larouche into the mix as well.
!) Compare with Ron Paul supporters at daily kos:    (LaRouchies by zonk”
and all the other sick fucks who congregate around the fusionist movement) are so widely accepted within libertarianism as to be published at Reason.com, while the global warming denialists of the left, the LaRouchies
Ten Douches who can beat Barack Obama.  Number 4.  Still being beaten by Harold Stassen.
This is a different Larouche, right?
LaRouche, along with the charismatic movement, and some Baptists believe in the seven-year end time tribulation. A secret rapture, etc. 

………………………

Something I’m puzzling over a tad.

Although an autopsy found that there was no third party involvement in his death last Friday – Lepper was found hanging in his Warsaw office – an investigation is currently under way into the circumstances which led to the suicide.

So, this political figure in Poland killed himself.  A Nationalist figure, achieved some measure of success, than fell out of favor and had corruption issues.  I wouldn’t really care, except …

From the Larouche Movement:  Using as a pretext the so-called Lepper issue (which falsely claimed that Andrzej Lepper, the leader of Samoobrona, was politically built up and financed by the Schiller Institute.)

Wikipedia:  Polish newspapers have reported that Andrzej Lepper, who leads the populist Samoobrona party, was trained at the Schiller Institute and has received funding from LaRouche, though both Lepper and LaRouche deny the connection. [10][11]

Strikes me as probable, though I’m guessing something like — the Larouchies latched onto him and claimed his success as steps toward Larouchism, and they found each other useful here or there.  Something like that…

Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said in an interview with Onet.pl that … […]  It was the only chance to learn about strange international connections Andrzej Lepper. Z Instytutem Schillera The Schiller Institute (pro-Russian think-tank, which was linked to Self Defense “- ed) on the one hand and the various communities in the East szemranymi the other – said the head of the MFA.

The links with the Institute of Self Defense Schiller wrote, among others. “Polityka”. “Politics.” Co to za instytucja? What kind of institution?

It was the only chance to learn about strange international connections Andrzej Lepper.  The Schiller Institute (pro-Russian think-tank, which was linked to Self Defense “- ed) on the one hand and the various communities in the East szemranymi the other – said the head of the MFA.

The links with the Institute of Self Defense Schiller wrote, among others.    IS opinion about what the U.S. has sent one of the central trade union “Solidarity” (IS then wanted to establish contacts with “S”, the unions offered trips to seminars to luxury hotels in Brazil and in the exotic islands).

– Schiller Institute, a bizarre and dangerous group, like all organizations associated with Lyndon LaRouche’em (his head – ed.)  Often try to conceal their true nature. . Present themselves as defenders of workers, and strive to damage the nascent democracies in Central and Eastern Europe – they wrote.  As a result of the letter “S” IS rejected the proposal.

It seems that it IS agentura Moscow circles that do not want entry into Polish, Czech and Hungary to NATO and the EU – said in 1999, the informants’ Policy. ” W Unlike the “S” IS Lepper constantly worked and frequented her seminars.

Make sense of this last item what you may.
It moves on… Will Helga Zepp get media coverage now?
Euro-Critic Wilhelm Hankel on German National Television … which reflects the growing unrest in the country on the euro issue—a breakthrough that should, however, be followed by another, even bigger one: a prime-time television appearance of at least several minutes by Helga Zepp-LaRouche.
………………………………..

MOVEMENT MOVES FORTH WITH LETTERS AND POST OFFICE TOURS

No, I can’t figure out what the Glass Steagall Resolution has to do with Larouche either.

Dateline Outside the Bank
Who the hell is this guy? His cult was singing and parading outside the bank yesterday holding signs depicting Obama as Hitler (in this town, I’m surprised none of them got their asses kicked). Not only that, the loons with the posters and fliers were actually grabbing people as they entered the bank; security and the police were called after mom was the 4,785th person to complain. I didn’t see the aftermath (I kinda wanted to see if they’d claim the right to free assembly); on my way home the singers and sign-carriers were gone but they were still yelling at people from a table with a PAC banner (which they had been forced to move closer to the alley).

His platform is apparently “Fuck everyone, especially the Jews. Please excuse me while I scream in your face from 2 inchs away about you being a faggot until you, quite rightfully, beat the shit out of me so I have an excuse to sue you.”

Picture the WBC but without the religious slant and even more batshit insane (if it’s even possible) and you have LaRouche.
“Cult” seems to be the best term as anyone with an IQ above room temperature and an ounce of rational thought wouldn’t give the loon the time of day.

Dateline One Horse Town with a Dairy Queen, Illinois

Here they were again—those advocates for Lyndon LaRouche, a man and a woman intent on giving out pamphlets, taking in signatures, and talking to anyone who’d listen.  There were about five people listening yesterday, engaging in what seemed to be supportive conversation.
My daughter and I stared open-mouthed at President Obama’s mustachioed face.  Was it my imagination, or had all the color been washed from his skin?  How had he turned such a palid, mein kampf gray?  It’s amazing what a stubby black caterpillar of facial hair can do to a person.   Something had happened to Obama’s eyes too.  I’d never seen them so glazed and vacant, so empty.
I got out of the car.  My daughter stayed where she was, cracking the car door.  I could feel her watching as I walked past the stand, the little crowd.  As I passed I heard a man’s voice, one of the crowd:  “Just get big shotgun, that’s what I say.”  People laughed. […]

I held out my hands—stop.  The man stopped.  He was keeping the required distance from the post office steps, too, I suppose.
I said, “I respect your right to freedom of speech, but what you’re doing here is spreading hate.”
The man smiled.  His smile showed teeth.  “Thank you for sharing that,” he said, as he turned away, leaving me standing there, sweating in the heat.
We were both so civil.  The man used such a nice verb—I shared, he shared, we shared.  So why was I so shaken?

Dateline Jackson, Florida:

The women had a flyer on six “LaRouche Democrats,” and on a Wednesday event in Jackson at the community college Potter Center.

“The crisis we face today is beyond a mere financial crisis, it is a crisis that threatens nothing short of adding mankind to the list of species gone extinct,” the literature said.

Rachel Brown and Diane Sare, LaRouche candidates for U.S. Congress are hosting a town meeting and classical concert at the Brookline Main Library tonight. From the event page, “The only way to reverse 40 years of economic and cultural insanity is to spark and foster the human creative spirit, which in the past made this nation great.”

Dateline Hollywood Eaglerock

However, Fred Coronel, an activist from Glendale, used the town hall session as an outlet to express his rage over the mere existence of the super congress.
Coronel shouted across the auditorium that Becerra was “playing games” with the public by participating in the super congress. Coronel also adamantly declared that the super congress was “unconstitutional.”
He was dragged out of the hall by several LAPD officers, after refusing Becerra’s request that he not interrupt the town hall’s question and answer session.
After the meeting, Coronel stood in front of the New Open World Academy and distributed campaign literature for the LaRouche Political Action Committee, a group formed by perennial presidential candidate Lydon LaRouche.

Will they ever produce another Rachel Brown Moment?  Only time will tell.

 

Comment Palooza Paloozas and Points Counterpoints

Tuesday, August 30th, 2011
This is interesting, though not wikipediable.  They more or less give their identity, and reference finding this page at laroucheplanet while looking up a former fellow member.
In October 1981, approximately 120 members resigned en masse from the LaRouche organization with a concise, simply worded document. This exodus created a major shift in the NCLC because the people who resigned had provided most of the operating money for the NCLC. It was centered in the Detroit, MI, local office (and became known as “The Split”). This was planned by the Detroit leadership, many who had been with LaRouche since the early days in NYC. The Split took many months and was executed with logistical precision and the utmost secrecy. Most of those who left easily transitioned into already established business and enterprises that had previously been used to fund NCLC business. LaRouche had a simple reply (relayed by one of his security team in New York) to the effect of ‘Even Judas Iscariot got 30 pieces of silver.’ Many believe The Split made the LaRouche organization’s move to Virginia necessary.

Ideally it would slide into the Larouche tree of articles, more so than some other crap.  But some phrases give it away — “became known as ‘The Split'” — neat, but — to whom did it become known as “The Split”?  Well, I present it here.

In more puzzling editing news, this comes up by way of sarcastic suggestion:

Start with every single “book review” and the like. And all the “but the person had a beard, so he must have been LaRouche” stuff. Add in the stuff which only serves to broadcast some of the wilder accusations. Cut the article down to about 10K. Cheers. Recall, I regard articles on small groups as properly being covered by BLP, and all opinions in such should be clearly labelled as opinions by specific people at best. Collect (talk) 12:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Oddly (oddly, I say, because of the “What the hell is he talking about?” factor) he doesn’t appear to be a Larouchie — he objects to the attempted inclusion of the “Thyssen link” to the Prescott Bush page, for instance.

In other wikipedia Someone tried to remove Alejandro Peña Esclusa from “list of associates”.  Someone objects to the identification of Reagan as “far right”.

We get this discussion:
Saying that the Reagan administration was a ally of the LaRouche movement is very misleading. While it’s true that LaRouche played a role in underground talks with White House officals over the creation of SDI, Norman Bailey notes these ties were cut off after they went public. Also, LaRouche opposed Reagan’s economic policy whereas the implication is that he approved of everything the Reagan White House did. I think this needs too at least be rephrased. Est300
I’m not a big fan of the assertion either, which I think gives excess weight to minor connections, but I will note that it says the movement “sought” alliances with these groups, including the Reagan administration, not that the alliances were ever made real.   Will Beback

Also the Larouchies want to assert Roy Frankhouser as picked up by Larouche due to his claim as a  “High Intelligence Source”.

NUMBER TWO:  PO TOUR, covered by Daily Kos

The factnet user “poe” can be quite annoying sometimes — see for instance:
“The Jew kid” — That isn’t language anyone in the organization would use. I don’t know who “friend” is, but I am sure they’re not a member.
Actually “friend” tends to be at the fore-runner of organizational trends.  See Daily Kos:
They asked me if I was ready to dump Obama and I responded by saying that if Obama were like Hitler that they wouldn’t be able to sit outside a US Post Office with signs calling him Hitler.  I said that I was just mailing a package to Israel where there are people who actually lived through Hitler.  They responded by saying that I looked like a Jew.  I am part Jewish.  I said that they are just lucky to live in a country where they are free to hold up signs like this.  I said that if Obama were like Hitler that they would be killed for holding up signs like this.  They smiled and said that sounded like something a Jew Nazi would say.
That’s when I lost my temper and suggested that they take their signs to a inner city neighborhood (instead of a 99% white upper middle class neighborhood in a 99% white city) and see if they get such a patient reception.  With more big smiles they said that was also something a Jew Nazi would say.  Then he took my picture with his phone.  To which I turned around and took a picture of him back.
An older gentleman walked out and saw their signs and muttered “oh, LaRouche” with disgust.  I turned to him and said “Yeah, LaRouche.”  I told him that I’m part Jewish and they just called me a Jew Nazi.
Comments-palooza!
one day soon they will fuck with the wrong dude  and get rich out of it.,,this is a nation of lawyers. […] in that kind of an environment you need to learn ways to deal with your frustrations….like blogging about it.
I think I’m gonna start carrying a paintball gun  and practice my aim. How fun would it be to nail that poster with a giant splat of florescent pink paint?
You can carry it a little further if you have the time.  Pull up a seat, and make calls on your cell phone and while talking, glance at them repeatedly, so it looks like you’re talking about them to someone.Make them More paranoid.
Yeah make like your talking about them!  That’s a good one! I’ve used it myself and it really works! Makes them crazy!
 This is a job for… Pie!
Only thing annieli, Pie, is too expensive and good  for them!
I’ve considered carrying eggs.  But I don’t drive and that can get messy if they can’t be safely stored.  Although eggs in ones car after several weeks may become quite rank.
Jew nazi caught my eye as well. It’s like saying you are a slave landowner or a prisoner warden.  I’d have asked him to elaborate.
Tell them you LOVE L. Ron Hubbard!
Of course the fact that they were essentially advocating assassination (in dog-whistlease) (saying we should “invoke the 25th Amendment“) makes it something that ought to be passed along to the authorities.  It seems highly unlikely that any of the avenues to invoke it would otherwise be viable, leaving the only one not requiring participation by the VP and a majority of the “principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide” as the only one they could reasonably intend – death of the President.  All in the name of Liberty and Democracy.  Wonder if these folk will ever get tired of being used by the manipulating and authoritarian elite?
I’m freakishly strong, my hands are incredibly powerful, especially for a woman (a genetic gift from my dad).  I’ve found the best way to deal with cretins like this is to say “Hi!” and stick my hand out for a handshake.  They’ll automatically stick theirs out in response.  So I’ll grasp that hand and shake the living shit out of it.  You have no idea how many men I’ve made blanch and try to withdraw before I’ve even said a word.  Then I use my most pleasant voice to tell them politely what a tool they are.  I don’t relinquish their hand until I’m done having my say.  Then I walk away.
It’s like Jon Stewart was saying about  the wingnuts calling Warren Buffett a socialist. “That George Clooney, always out there bangin’ chicks. What a queer!” They have no concept of how ridiculous their slurs sound. When they were kids they were the ones calling people a “spastic morphodite” like that was some kind of wicked clever put-down.
and the reference to the 25th amendment, I think it would have been fair and a civic duty to call the FBI, right in front of him, after taking his picture, and tell them there is a man standing in front of the Post Office advocating the assassination of the President.
LaRouche and his small ilk are amazing in their cockroachoid ability to survive and linger, whatever the season and whoever the leaders.
When I was getting my Ph.D at Michigan There was always a table on the Diag hosted by a group of Larouchies.  The thing that amazed me is that every couple years they had recruited some new younguns to sit there looking like idiots.  I mean, seriously, one or two morons is one thing, but the ability to keep recruiting them year after year is what amazes me.
People need to belong.  And if you feel like you aren’t fitting in anywhere and someone welcomes you with open arms…
A town without Larouchies is like a day without  sunshine hailstorms.
A town without Larouchies is like a day without shitstorms.  I have only seen them (that I can recall) in the Fremont area of Seattle, just at the north end of the Fremont Bridge.  Really bad choice for finding acolytes, but good for finding people that will yell at them. 🙂
Them at Westlake Center and UW while I was a student there.  I used to pick out the newest recruits and plant seeds of doubt in their heads…eventually the word was put out that they were no longer allowed to talk to me.  I loved how they sheltered their weaker believers from me.
I think I was reading some LaRouche internet stuff in mid ’09- during the heart of the financial debacle- and it seemed to me that at least some of it made rudimentary sense.   I think LLR was against the bail outs or something like that.   However, if I would have scratched the surface, the analysis would have likely led to a picture of a perfect hook-nosed Jew as the perpetrator.
The LaRouchies need to join up with… the Fred Phelps gang and maybe throw in the Maoists over at Bob Avakian’s Revolutionary Communist Party and then they’d have a group everyone could hate, except, of course, for the kind of idiots who gravitate to these groups.
its honestly usually quite fun to engage the LaRouchies.  Very rarely do you meet stupider people who are more sure of their stupid beliefs, except when dealing with Paulites.
Same sign in newton , ma last year  i made the mistake of interacting with them and regreted letting them get me agitated. I told the young man that he was just the latest in 30 years of kids thinking they found they new and only truth with Larouche but he was just being used
But what was more effective was calling the wellesley , ma library and leting them know that the Larouche candidate was holding a “lecture” at their community room…it was on the handout. Libraries can’t host candidates so she kicked them out!
The PO must be their nationwide MO.   I live in Texas, and the same kind of people sit outside our post offices around Austin with the exact same signs. I’m still not sure why they hang out at the PO.
I had my picture taken by one of the Larouche zombies outside Anna Eshoo’s office during the healthcare debate. They are so off the wall.
LaRouchies are weird. I remember talking to   them about 10 years ago. They said the main solution to world’s problems is to build roads in Russia. They were unable to explain why in Russia (other than it’s big), why Russians can’t do it themselves and how will it help non-Russians.
I once ran into a guy I
knew from undergrad, who said he was just back in school after he’d dropped out of grad school and joined a cult.  Out of sheer morbid curiosity, I asked what cult.
i remember the first time i ran into them. after a brief and utterly useless “conversation” with the guy manning the table, i realized “OMG it’s a real life troll!”
It is my understanding of history that there were  very few Jewish members of the Nazi party.
What caught my eye …was  the line on the poster that said “Invoke the 25th amendment”.  The 25th amendment has to do with presidential succession.  How exactly are these folks suggesting that it be “invoked”?  Is that another euphemism for “Second Amendment remedies”?
LaRouchies, who are so enamored of Gaddafi, have some gall comparing Obama to Hitler.
the Larouchies …hated Bush too. Yet I don’t remember such creative signs in front of the post office. I saw these same signs in front of the p.o. of the small town where I work. It was all I could do not to use some tae kwon do on their asses. My compliments to the poster for not resorting to violence!
LaRouche people are like Ron Paul supporters on acid.
I found out about Larouche when I made a statement on a Department of Energy security clearance questionnaire about having subscribed to the LaRouche organization’s old “Fusion” magazine and that it was possible that the LaRouche organization might therefore have me on a membership list or something. I had subscribed to it (this was in the early 80s) for the unintentional humor in it on various subjects (Queen Elizabeth as international drug lord, for example).  A few days later I was hauled in for a good grilling about the matter. I guess the security folks knew more about LaRouche than I did at the time, lol.
Hey, they’re everywhere, like cockaroaches. A while ago they were outside a post office station in Willow Grove, Pa. Best to ignore them, or give a quiet sneer.
I talked with them for about an hour Yesterday, I just couldn’t let them do it.  So I went down there armed with some simple facts about LaRouche.  They wanted me to leave.  I didn’t.  So they called the police.   I told them that they just made it so that I had to stay, because I didn’t want to give the police the impression that I was avoiding them.  So the police came, and… we talked about stuff.  Cops left.  I stayed another 10 minutes or so.  I realized the reason I can’t let this shit go unchallenged.  It should not be easy for people to put crazy ideas into the mainstream. 
Like every other day. I’ve engaged with them a total of twice. First time an older lady asked me if I supported Obama, and I said I voted for him, yes. Then she proceeded to tell me he went to college with Lenin.  I said Vladimir Lenin? Yes, they were classmates. Oh, so seeing that Lenin was dead for 40 years when Obama was born was he a zombie? Then she started pointing at me and the group of like 5 or 6 of them started chanting “Commie Sewer Rat” over and over. So I rolled my eyes and left.  Second time, was some guy ranting about global currency, and North American Union. Told me that soon I won’t be able to mail anything because the dollar will be defunct and replaced with amero or something like that. Also, Obama is the product of a prostitute, and his mother was “an international whore who got knocked up by one of her johns”.  Now I just ignore these people, like about 99% of everyone else. These are the same type of people who believe in the anti-christ and end times bullshit too. You can just tell. I guarantee you they believe in that type of stuff too.
Yeah, here’s a possible new recruit.  Ryan Kilpatrick affirms “The Jace Hall Show” — becoming enchanted with the message for Larouche about their slacker friends and for space travel and anti-“negropantic” and all that.
And now an interesting question from a daily kos user:  Is there a team of Larouchies trying to hide this diary entry?

Dateline … Seattle, if I recall.  They informed me that Larouche was in great health and has at least another ten years to go.
True story: Back in 2004, I was at an anti-war protest at our local federal building when the LaRouchites hit me up and started rambling on and on about the One World Government and shit that I had no interest in discussing.
It was some nice old lady, though, so I didn’t want to be rude and dismiss her. Finally, to shut her up, I signed their pledge to end imperialism or something crazy like that. I put down my e-mail address and my cell phone and went back to protesting.
Didn’t think much of it. I’ve done that before and have hardly been pestered because of it.
Well about a week later, I get a phone call from an unknown number. I answer it and it’s their group asking if I want to attend one of their local meetings in my neighborhood. I tell them no and that I wasn’t interested in what they had to say and the guy would NOT shut up. He kept going on and on about what they were doing and how important it was that I come see for myself. Finally, I had to interrupt him and tell him he was wasting my minutes and then I quickly hung up.
THEY WOULD CALL ME EVERY WEEK FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
It finally only ended once I changed my number.

Dateline Jackson Community College, Michigan, for the Bill Roberts for Congress Campaign!
The keynote speaker will be Bill Roberts, a Wayne County-area resident who is part of a slate of six LaRouche-supported Democrats who plan to run for Congress. […]
LaRouche, who has been at odds with both Democrats and Republicans over the years, is considered a political extremist and conspiracy theorist by his critics.
Cindy Allen, spokeswoman for JCC, said the college rents space to various groups — political and nonpolitical — and does not discriminate based on their political views.

WEEEEEE!

Dateline Bristol — Warren

“What is this? This is pathetic,” one man said as he walked by and kicked the sidewalk sign across the parking lot. After running his errands, the man returned again to pick up the sign, carry it a few feet and throw it across the parking lot.
Mathis retrieved the sign and returned it to an upright position and continued trying to flag cars down.
“People have nothing else to do but to come over and do things like that,” he said. “It’s inconsequential. It’s an outlet to get angry.”
But the man who threw the sign and drivers who passed by and yelled profanities and things like “you should be ashamed of yourselves!” won’t deter Mathis from coming back to spread his belief.

“Fairness Doctrine” gone and — memories.
But no matter. Within 5 minutes of me signing off the studio phone would ring. It’d be the Lyndon LaRouche loons again — or the NYPIRG nuts — demanding another half hour of free air time to peddle their nutjob conspiracy theories. And we had to give it to them too. Fairness and all. They worked the system for all it was worth, not that anybody listened!

Dateline… Houston:  Later Tuesday afternoon I received a most unusual phone call. As the President of a local GOP women’s PAC, I often get calls from those interesting in speaking to our group. This person and her approach was different, to say the least.
The phone rang and the number that came up on caller id was not familiar and the “unknown” label flashed. It was a local area code so I answered. “Hi. This is Julianne. May I speak to Karen Townsend?”. “Yes, this is she”, I replied. “Hi. I’d like to talk to you about the LaRouche initiatives.” “Lyndon LaRouche?”, I replied. “Yes. Are you familiar with Mr. LaRouche?” My response was as calm of a one as I could manage -“Yes, I am.” Then she said, “We are looking to build an army.” With that I was out. “I’m not interested. Thank you.” And I hung up.
A minute or two passed and another call came in. It was from Julianne again.After the I just want to discuss some points we can agree on, she said, “Can I talk to you about speaking to your group?” This was easy – I told her our group has programs lined up through the end of the year. In January we will have a new President and a new Programs Vice-President. Then I went on to tell her that our group really doesn’t have supporters of Mr. LaRouche’s in its membership.
She went back to the I think we have ideas we can both agree on bit. So, yeah, I’ll engage and hear what she is serving up today. I ask, “Well, like what?” and she brings the conversation to an end with her opening remark – “Can we both agree that President Obama has committed treasonous acts?”
Oy. No, Julianne, we cannot agree upon that statement. Bye-bye.

Once you have seen a few LaRouche publications you can spot one at twenty yards, before any of the text is actually legible.
LaRoucheism is not a political movement at all, but a scam pure and simple. It is much the same deal as Scientology, except that Hubbard was smart enough to see that labeling your scam as a religion immunizes you against prosecution (in the US, anyway). I am proud to say that the guy who succeeded in locking LaRouche up for securities fraud was a law school classmate of mine
.

Dateline Pennsylvania: 


When asked what they were there for today, one protestor said they did not talk to journalists and would not give any comment.

The goal was to get 100 Pennsylvania governmental agencies to express their support for H.R. 1489: Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011, before this summer’s Congressional recess. That’s according to Dan Gring, a committee volunteer who lives in Hatfield Township. He said only five have passed supporting resolutions.

Committee representatives have recently appeared at public meetings throughout the North Penn and Indian Valley regions — including Towamencin, Upper Gwynedd and  Hatfield townships — according to Gring, a machinist.

“It’s been an uphill battle,” said Gring, who spoke to members of the North Wales Borough Council earlier this week.

Dateline New Hampshire: 

Fifteen activists with the N.H. American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, N.H. Alliance for Retired Americans and Moveon.org picketed outside with signs bearing slogans like “Hands off Medicare and Social Security.”

A handful of volunteers with the LaRouche Political Action Committee also handed out fliers and held up signs, one of which bore the image of President Barack Obama with a Hitler-style mustache.

Dateline Elk Grove:

Two protestors were escorted out of Rep. Dan Lungren (R-Gold River)’s Aug. 18 town hall meeting in Elk Grove for being disruptive and a group of picketers rallied outside before he spoke.
A sheriff’s deputy removed Alexandra Phillips and Mark Samet from the meeting after they shouted at Lungren and wouldn’t let him speak.
“Why are you bailing out Wall Street?” Samet told him. “What you are doing is wrong.”
Phillips chimed in, “You deserve to go to jail.”
One person near the middle of the room stood up, turned around, and shouted, “We didn’t come here to hear you.”
Another person said, “Shut up and let him talk”
Phillips and Samet, both supporters of political activist Lyndon LaRouche, came from San Francisco and set up a display outside of an Elk Grove post office earlier that day and they displayed posters of President Barack Obama adorned with a Hitler-like mustache.
Their goal was to find leaders in Elk Grove who were willing to help push the LaRouche Movement forward.
Elk Grove resident Norm DeYoung, who is president of the Sacramento chapter of United Republicans of America, sat in front of the pair.
“They weren’t there to be part of the town hall,” he said after the meeting. “I wasn’t polite. I told them to shut up or go outside.”

Today some Lyndon LaRouche supporters tried to use the Loveland USPS parking lot as a rally spot. Lotsa Obama w/ Hitler ‘stache posters. #
I’m sure the LaRouche guys thought the gub’mint was really getting them down when the cops showed up to shoo them outta there.

Dateline Sam Houston University
“We want to get as many young people involved in our political movement,” Grenados said. “We aren’t partisan; we just want them to support us because we will fight for them.”
That’s Bob Shrum’s typical political messaging.  Though, in presidential elections, he’s got a track record of losses similar to Larouche’s, so…
“Section four of the 25th amendment to the Constitution says that any sitting President can be removed by his cabinet for mental, or physical reasons,” Grenados said. “Obviously the President isn’t physically handicapped, but he suffers from a mental disease.”
Grenados said several reports from 2009 claimed Obama suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
“Well over 50”. 
Dateline Riviera Village section of Redondo Beach
It appears Mr. Obama’s just pissed off the LaRouche gang something awful by screwing humanity

Dateline Australia:  Who said America doesn’t export anything anymore?

NUMBER THREE:  JOINING FORCES TO DEFEAT THE INNER ALPHA GROUP

Mr. President, ԁο уου realize thаt еνеrу day уου remain Ñ–n office, уου personally vindicate LaRouche’s warning thаt уου wеrе nothing more thаn a British-owned failed personality? It’s time tο ɡο.

Yeah, you go with whoever wants them to go.

Notable, kind of, Ron Paul has hired on as an adviser a lawyer who has drafted Impeachment papers for Barack Obama.   His name is not Lyndon Larouche.  Can he be said to be “joining” Larouche — or Clark?  I don’t know.  I don’t think he has the answers Howie G has.

I present two pairings.  The first is just your garden variety Internet comment.

Mr. LaRouche and Webster Tarpley’s plans are the only solution.

Well, at least “Mr. Larouche” gets top billing, but… huh.

The second, actually a headline from LPAC
Who Will Join Clark and LaRouche To Oust Obama?

Perry Clark — a few more items in the local media — and it fades away…
But most importantly, Perry angrily puts the Queen Elizabeth-enabling tool of the Illuminati, Phillip “Bankster” Bailey, in his place, as he points out how Bailey is “a little man with a little mind” with his gotcha New Hitler-appeasing questions (asked with faux- respect and civility, of course).

Please excuse us as we roll our eyes over Perry’s hunger for attention.
He may make some good points but taking economic advice from Perry Clark is about as wise as taking life skills advice from Karen Sypher.

I see the Larouchies surfing about to attract the Ron Paul fans — may have to swallow hard in praising Ron Paul.  We see them Selling Larouche to the Gold-bugs here: Nixon took us off the gold standard, Larouche has predicted every economic collapse from then to now. Yeah, well we’ll get some aggrieved voices out there.

‎

Mark Levin took time in his show to blast Ron Paul as being more in league with the “Left”.  And then Larouche and Jones come up here predictably in relation to Ron Paul.

And so it goes:  Frankly, you Paul supporters are getting to be like LaRouche fans, more interested in worshipping the guy [than] what he stands for. At least we understand the difference between “than” and “then.” Can a LaRouchite say that??? Or YOU?

Is Paul the Right’s Lyndon LaRouche? (ah NO)

In many ways, the Ron Paul supporters remind me of the Lyndon LaRouche supporters who used to pop up in various places on the SoTech campus trying to sell buttons, coffee mugs, reading material, and above all else, entry into the Cult

Chip Berlet puts a few incidents down here in context with the Tea Party.  I note that a week ago when Jon Stewart referenced a Hitler Obama sign, he used the non Larouchian one, which always used to be the first image that shows up with Larouche.

Posting to Bill Maher about “what’d be analogious to the Tea Party”:  Whole foods? MSNBC? If he wants some loonies, try mainstreaming the LaRouche movement. That’d teach them
.

Maybe… Agreed. If Code Pink were successful in forwarding the progressive agenda, they’d be analogous to the Tea Party. As a political force they’re about as effective as the LaRouchies.

I think Neiwert comes close to playing the same game here that the LaRouchies do – choosing various connections and extrapolating (ie. he’s coming close to being a conspiracy theorist himself). A lot of people on the traditional right

HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU:

As you might guess, I think its a d**n good question. I’d take it a step farther though – Why does any candidate who is seen as on the “fringe” scare everyone so much? Okay, you might not like their policy considerations; perhaps they are pro-life and you are pro-choice, or they want more social spending and you want less. As President, they can’t (usually) make all those decisions unilaterally. A President can’t forbid abortion without getting at least Congress to agree. A President can’t appropriate funds by him- (or her-) self.
So, why would a President Palin, or a second term President Obama, or a President LaRouche frighten you?

Dateline Brazil, a country that is big as the United States in territory has proportional representation. One state(Sao Paulo) had more than one thousand candidates for Congress last election, and the voter was supposed to choose one. One election the most voted congressman was a TV celebrity that was a gay stylist that liked to make misogynistic comments, on the other it was a far right doctor that idolized Lyndon LaRouche.
Ouch, I’d apologize for exporting Larouche to your country, but then I’d sound too much like Obama.

Frum… Frum… Frum… He is as much a conservative as LaRouche is a Democrat, that is he calls himself one but his actions/remarks do not track that declaration. Therefore, ignore Frum and perhaps he will return back to the cocktail party

And why does the MKO — a mostly irrelevant group as ideologically coherent as Lyndon Larouche’s cult and just as ineffective — so raise Parsi and the

Is there any real difference between Ron Paul and Lyndon LaRouche?
They both run for President every 4 years, and neither one will ever win…Wow. That takes me back. Whatever happened to ol’ Lyndon?……….
LaRouche is in jail………

Aussies
Naturally the fruitloops and fruitcakes at The Punch were outraged. LaRouche somewhere out of the mainstream, Pauline Hanson not still at the centre of politics, except when turning up to a Tony Abbott addressed rally?
Are the propaganda pieces handed out by the crazy Larouchies or the International ANSWER lunatics or the Westboro “Baptist” “Church” a**holes or whoever also “actual newspapers?
All the things you mentioned except LaRouche (Examiner, ANSWER, Westboro, Fox News) promote an ideology.

NUMBER FOUR:  HARVEY SCHLANGER MAKES TRIUMPHANT APPEARANCE ON ALAN JONES SHOW

It is interesting that the Alex Jones Show’s web master misidentified Harley Schlanger.  But whatever.  The web was raging after his appearance.

 At this point I’m a Ron Paul supporter but not a RP lemming. In reference to Harley Schlanger’s comments on today’s show I want to know if Ron Paul is willing to bring Articles of Impeachment to the floor of the US Congress if his bid for the Republican nomination falters.

Saw some of the hand wringing meshugginahness at mondowiess, just heard Harley Schlanger on the Zionist Alex Jones show imply that Moses hated Jesus and had a Talmud, small wonder that so many “JEWS” are afraid of confronting the “JEWISH” narrative, from which oozes this global psychopathic crime syndicate of Talamudic Terrorism for Jewishness, It really is very simple, without a Talmud there is no JEWISHNESS, if the Ashkenazim proselytes to Talmudic Judaism which comprise roughly 90% of WORLD JEWRY would just be honest and UNCONVERT from the STOOL SCULPTURE DEITY CULT….Ipso Facto Talmudia would cease to exist, and Americans could invest in INFRASTRUCTURE, their childrens futures – http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=138398 – without talmudic cesspit bondage chains on their little legs, and we could go back to being FREE to grow HEMP if we want to…just a thought.

A few more reactions here

And now… COMMENT-PALOOZA!

THE EARTH QUAKE WAS THERE TO IMPEACH OBAMA
Let’s just get on with it then. If they want to come and get rid of us, then what are they waiting for??????
So the one chance we have is the distruction of the currency. If so, I happily wecome it. It cannot happen soon enough.
I wish I had my gun rights back. my grandpa and me used to trapshoot. he’s able to still pull and enjoy watching me shoot. hope I can get right back soon as he doesn’t have long left on this earth
we must start to get ready for this n.w.o. dictatorship.buy all the important hardware that is nessecary for youre saftey.god save us all….
TRAITORS MUST FUCKING DIE!
WTG Alex, for having HS on the Show.. He sounds like a great new voice in the resistance community!
LaRouche and Alex/Ron Paul agree on 90% of the issues out there, yet even though both preach that the left/right paradigm is designed to divide us, they still stick to it, ridiculous. Please, this is a plea to both LaRouche (LPAC) and the followers of Ron Paul and Alex Jones (I follow all three), join forces already and lets all fight the NWO together, if we stay divided we’re doomed!
this guest went close to right to the very top in this interview. LPAC has it’s stuff together. I’m going for Ron Paul, but LaRouche would’ve been great in the 80s. I wasn’t aware of him then as I was in grade school, but these guests are off the hook. LaRouche has a lot of plans and vision. Very competent and capable people.
so glad that alex has started to warm up to LaRouchePAC- it is the best Statism out there for those that believe the State should exist.
With people like La rouche, schlanger, Jones, ventura, RON PAUL 2011′, Rand Paul, etc..coming out like this, you have to wonder how much longer the media will be able to evade the sheeple for? This is getting good,. The only thing stopping America from exacting its revenge on the criminals is major channels for information to get to the people with..if everyone said: This sunday, make signs, 4 signs each, put them on your major street intersects that would gain many more enlightened patriots GBA
He was named after a motorcycle? Just kidding. One of the best guests ever and i think it’s his first time on the show.
“We have to get rid of obama” HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE, WHO ARE SUPPOSEDLY AWAKE MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE THAT? Barry is a fuckin puppet. All congress are puppets, the SCOTUS is a puppet. I am sick and tired of this bullshit. I like Ron Paul; but a baby in a crack house has as much a chance to do ANYTHING with these criminals. Additionally, who fuckin cares. We are Americans. I am sovereign. DC is a corporation and the flag is a corporate flag. We need to kick the country of DC out of America.
BRING BACK GLASS STEAGALL; ON AND FUCKIN ON AND FUCKIN ON AND FUCKIN ON. Is this the only thing the Larouche pact can think of? Here goes a hint Lyndon… IT’S FUCKIN GONE. DO YOU REALLY THINK THE CRIMINALS ARE ALL OF THE SUDDEN GOING TO TURN AROUND 180 DEGREES? Sorry to yell but it sickens me to no end. I am ashamed of you Alex, you always seemed to be awake. Now I feel you are supporting the enemy. The direction this country needs; is to break away from the country of D.C.—- I AM SOVEREIGN!
Is it Harley or Harvey?
This guy was doing great until he slipped into that same old tired line about Nazis.
Ben Shalom Bernanke, Alan Greenspan, Paul Wolfowitz, Dominic Strauss Kahn, Goldman Sachs, all of em, aren’t Nazis, or Nazi run.
They’re Jewish.

MORE

Everyone.. We are all being depopulated. It is a slow death ,its not like there walking us in ovens or Decapitations are happening…But GMO food , pharmaceutical drugs , Fluoride in the water , Vaccines , aspartame , giving people syphilis through vaccines , Aids , All slow deaths but = Death
now count in update wide reprouctive sterilizeratity factor by a few generations
~this has been augmented into the homo sapient gene pool inclusive via a wide array of vectors incluseive of entire Life Matrix of my Earth,\
=no penology exemptions
Lyndon LaRouche posing as a constitutionalist is just ridiculous! Schlanger rightfully hitting on elites fancying population reduction is just a piece of bigottery too. LaRouche’s thinking is just as unconstitutional and inhumane as that of the MIC, the Wall Street Gangs and the Green CO2 Fascists. You might want to get a second opinion on LaRouche: lyndonlarouchewatch(dot)org
a new generation of young people running shit? ah i don’t thiink so replacing old morons with younger ones i don’t know man
LaRouche is stealing votes from Ron Paul. Instead they should join forces.
Holy krap this guy is useless = just spouts obvious generalizations & assorted BS 2 kill time. What a boring guest. “Well it’s up 2 the fish 2 swim. If they want 2 eat, they must chew. Sometimes they poop, and run from predators, but other times they can be more relaxed and near their friends.”
YAWN!!
We know that a handful of sick people want US dead!…
and they’re doing it right in front of our eyes…
YET we’re SPACED out about it. Why!?
Because you don’t want to believe…
that they want your “special ass” dead?
Everyone else’s ass is grass..but Yours is left alone.
How fucked up is that?
To all of you who say Alex Jones is afraid to mention “the Jews”, I noticed that HE brought up the farcical ADL to Harley Schlanger. I don’t see a shred of evidence for a Jewish conspiracy. What I do see is that Jews worldwide disproportionately take jobs in the finance industry, and are not doing much better at it than the rest of the banksters. What’s next? Blame “the Jews” because Dr. Liebowitz didn’t warn you about your sodium intake?
also reminds me of the illuminati card game 1996 , the exact events that are happening were already on these cards .
What about Ron Paul and LaRouche joining together?
Maybe I’m wrong, but aren’t Jews basically Caucasian?

MORE
The Nazi Hitler talk means nothing to me.
There is a genocide right now of farmers in South Africa. No one cares. The ZOG USA isn’t going to work.
Alex talks about not necessarily agreeing with solutions put forth by LaRouche. He expresses the same disagreement with Webster Tarpley when Tarpley tries to advocate for solutions. But I wish Alex would suggest some solutions of his own, then, or have guests on who have ideas for solutions. What does Alex think of Ellen Brown’s campaign for states to establish public banks modeled after the Bank of North Dakota? We need something to restore our economy!!
The Earth is hollow dudes, Unhappily NASA is lying to us all on this. It’s a simple puzzle to solve.. I think we have to think in terms of concentric colonization and that’s what all the craziness is about.
Why Alex Jones never mention the Zionists, he trashes Zeitgeist, Annonymous, Wikileaks, but he never mention the fuckin’ zionist jews.
Zeitgeist should never be Trashed…The Venus Project can save humanity.
We are approaching a galactic alignment where our solar system will pass through the galactic equator – the dark rift, as the Mayans called it.

Feedback from previous Jones appearances.
When Lyndon LaRouche made his second appearance on The Alex Jones Show on June 30, 2011, he made a bogus claim about America’s monetary system.
Wait.  Really.  Bogus claim?  I’m shocked!

GODLIKE PRODUCTIONS… Ahhhh, a Larouche post. How nostalgic. It makes me pine for the days of Sorcha Faal, 535, the Webbots, and Gaia Man.

Speaking of Harley, don’t lose these “justice for john wiley price” crap:

 OMFG, there’s a justiceforjwp.COM? Not ORG, which is a non-profit? That tells me all I need to know. It was registered to a Larry Hall. It looks to me that they tried to obfuscate the owner of the site. The site says the following on the donations page:  “DONATIONS ARE NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE”

Here’s the WHOIS info on the site:

AND… http://www.facebook.com/notes/dallas-south-news/justice-for-john-wiley-price-committee-to-hold-informational-meeting/10150260608006819

ITEM NUMBER FIVE!!  DONATIONS NEEDED

Alan Jones?

The National Library are looking for donations of materials (Flyers, pamphlets, stickers, ephemera, documentation, etc) related to the Convoy.
So, if anyone has successfully infiltrated Just Grounds forum and can convince them to part with flyers about reptoids, the Queen-Hitler-Vegan connection, the Australian Sovereign Citizen movement, the Lyndon LaRouche Movement, as well as the actual extra-Constitutional petition of demand, feel free to donate it to the Collection.
Getting the duty Librarian to believe you might be another problem, though.

Literary reviews:
The Humbuggery of Charles Darwin
Yep you read the title of this post correctly folks.  The Citizens Electoral Council considers Charles Darwin theories and work as humbuggery. Remarkable given the paranoid delusions of grandeur of Lyndon LaRouche.

Go figure.  Insane Lyndon Larouche Teaches Kids Mammals Are A Mistake and Turns The Elderly Into Climate Egoists

Hm… one last shot at the Oslo Terrorist:

The origin of this fabricated conspiracy theory would appear to be in Lyndon Larouche’s paranoid cult in the early 1990s. The confessed Oslo mass murderer, Anders Breivik plagiarized extensively from one version of the tale

It’s there an up-to-date guide for overseas visitors to the US scene? It’s nice to be called up from the Australian farm team, but I don’t want to end up in some glossy publication that turns out to be funded by LaRouche.

ITEM NUMBER SIX — News on “associates”:

Amelia Boynton Robinson gets a thrashing from the right-wing “American Thinker”.

Robinson herself is a walking contradiction. The Martin Luther King, Jr Freedom Medal recipient  has served for decades  as  the Vice-President of  Lyndon LaRouche’s Schiller Institute, which published her autobiography in 1991. LaRouche  garnered  KKK support in a 1984 Presidential bid under the Independent Democrat Party. In 1992 the mayor of Seattle rescinded the city’s offer to commemorate Black History Month with an Amelia Boynton Robinson Day.  Seattle organizers did not know about Robinson’s ties to LaRouche who was in jail at the time for “fraud and money raising abuses.”
Hey!  The Frankhouser connection was all about Intelligence Connections!  I read about it at wikipedia!

Lewis Du Pont dies.  I have nothing to say about that.

After college, Smith taught English and history at the Hill School in Pottstown and Friends Central in Wynnewood. In the early 1980s, he became actively involved in political organizing. His work led to his association with Lyndon LaRouche Jr.

Memories…  In 1986, Dannel was the only prominent politician to support Lyndon LaRouche’s Proposition 64 in California, which would have labeled AIDS a disease subject to quarantine. In 1989, Dannemeyer read into the Congressional Record Cameron’s graphic description of gay sex, “The Medical Consequences of What Homosexuals Do.” Dannemeyer left the House in 1992 to try to run for the Senate seat for California, but he lost in the primary.

They don’t have her…
Denise Giardina is a radical. Perched on the worn couch in her cozy home in Charleston, West Virginia, Giardina doesn’t shy away from this term, a death knell in modern politics. She certainly doesn’t fit the stereotype. Her wardrobe doesn’t consist of military fatigues. There are no pictures of Che Guevera on the walls. No Lyndon LaRouche For President fliers lying on the coffee table. That’s just not her style. Instead, Giardina looks to Henry Thoreau, Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Mother Jones as her guideposts for revolutionary change.

Hm…  ITEM NUMBER SEVEN  …  POINT/ COUNTER POINT

Point:
Yeah, well:
  LaRouche organization made quite a few unfortunate calls in the last few years. I guess trying to predict an exact moment when such a complex system as world economy would collapse is an impossible task.
Also, in my opinion LaRouche made a 180 degree turn on Imperial destabilizations of the Arab/African countries, initially condemning it and suddenly changing their view.

Most people are indoctrinated by our Jewish media and public fool system to see Nazi Germany as the epitome of evil. However, I’d like to point out that Hitler is one of the few leaders to actually screw the Illuminati/NewWorldOrder/JewBankers and run them out of his country. He was also able to shut down all the Freemasonic temples and round up all the Marxist agitators in the country. His biggest victory was creating his own debt-free money which circulated in a poverty-stricken country ravaged by starvation and unemployment to create one of the greatest industrial powers the world has ever known. This along with purging the Jewish media from Germany created one of the biggest and most dominant countries ever known.If you are curious to learn more about the triumphs of Adolf against the Illuminati bankers, this is a nice little un-biased, fair site that will show the legacy of Hitler.
COUNTERPOINT from Howie G:  Few are willing to state the obvious truth: That Lyndon LaRouche has already presented the only workable “Plan B” to the current crisis, in the form of a return to FDR’s Glass-Steagall Law and ensuing scientific development policies, and in the form of a radical rejection of the anti-human British liberal philosophy of pleasure and pain. And either LaRouche’s policies are implemented, or the planet will sink into a New Dark Age. ……
POINT:
Larouche is someone to pay attention to.
COUNTERPOINT: That’s kinda hard with him boring the piss out of me.
POINT:  I can be optimistic about the future if we change our Presidents. I think that, under the right conditions, that John Kerry, properly advised, will know how to approach this crisis we’re entering into now.
COUNTERPOINT.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT: DAVID ICKE FORUM EXPOSES THE LAROUCHE CONNECTION

LYNDON LAROUCHE magazine called FIDELIO.
LAROUCHE links to LAROCHE and HOFFMAN LAROCHE and BASEL.

LAROUCHE was born in ROCHESTER.
ROUCHE and ROCHE. (FERRERO ROCHER link as well)
Mother of LAROUCHE is JESSIE LENORE.
FIDELIO means LEONORE.

ROCHE is based in BASEL.
BASEL is BÄLE in French and hence the link
to CHRISTIAN BALE and GARETH BALE of TOTTENHAM.

Here’s another one from the “Satan’s Fake Apocalypse” for ya!
Then it hit me: Obama, according to Webster Tarpley, had a rather wild time in his early adulthood, and this, also according to Tarpley, has been swept under the rug by killing those with firsthand knowledge, including his supposed male lovers. (This is one reason I suspect that his family is just intended to provide him with the trappings of an average person.)

Here’s another one!
I have it on good authority that the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Build A Burgers, the Rothschilds and the Lyndon Larouche Institute for Whole Cloth Preservation are headquartered in Luxembourg. With all that money and power, it’s no wonder they have a high minimum wage.

ITEM NUMBER NINE:  MISC FUNNY

I have no idea where this twitter feed is going, but maybe it’ll be interesting.
http://twitter.com/#!/ciampion

 Dennis Miller Top 25 MNF jokes — #17.

Memo… “Australian Movement for Sustained Development”

ITEM NUMBER TEN:  The Ultimate Ron Paul — Larouche :  “Why Is the Local Media Ignoring –?“  COMMENTPALOOZA

I never knew LaRouche was an actual person (I still have my doubts). I thought it was just a random name that the political trolls that constitute the fanbase made up.
One time I made a LaRouche supporter burst into tears.  It was awesome.
Jesus H. on a Harley, I can’t believe even Paul Constant (admittedly not on my A-list) is falling for such stuff.
This entire Lyndon LaRouche scam is just that: a matching campaign finance scam, dood.
Remember that box on your tax returns that you can check off if you want a donation made to the presidential campaign that doesn’t cost you anything?
LaRouche receives around $30 million every four years for his faux political party!
I can’t believe you are unaware of that??????
Just can’t get away from this one..

LaRouchies run the Democrat Party, so why not Paulians the Republicans? It is all one big conspiracy!

ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN:  WHAT THE FUCK?
“Larouche Is A Complete Idiot” youtube video COMMENTPALOOZA

This white jewish elite wich we call the british dutch empire is just as repugnant, they are preparing world war 3, and the only thing a sick twisted dutch pedophile like you can say, is : lyndon larouche is an idiot????
I think lyndon larouche still isn’t telling the truth about what the british empire is. beause if he did they would call him anti semitic. obama has been put in the white house by the elite to be the fall guy while they bring down the us dollar and thus the worlds monetary system.
this guy is introducing a new species, when he takes a dump, then we can call that evolution. lyndon larouche like most scientists knows that evolution is non sense.i am afraid that the u.s. is not aware that the dutch are still believing that shit.
this guy has a dutch accent, and you know what that means. dutch= hypocrits, pedophiles and gay people/a non cultural people with the most disgusting urges. if pedophelia was infented, then it was infented in holland.hat a disgusting accent. shit. fuck.
Yeah, well … If that’s a point … here’s a COUNTERPOINT:
Ever since reading a Lyndon LaRouche article called “The Secrets Known Only to the Inner Elites (1978?),” I’ve been pretty convinced, as the article suggests, that the Jews are ultimately. NOT in control, and are indeed slated for destruction.
But, here’s the Point again — (click “read more” button”)
ITEM NUMBER TWELVE:  LPAC MAKING SCIENTIFIC IN-ROADS
A Larouche Movie that revives an old plan from the 1960s
3rd item cited here.
Alice Wolf sells the Larouche has been predicting earthquakes for months.

Top 5 Larouche News Stories of the Week and thereabouts

Saturday, August 13th, 2011

STORY NUMBER ONE: LAROUCHE REPRESENTATIVE CALLS OBAMA A MUSLIM

This is curious and notable, from outside the political / spiritual rally held with Texas Governor Rick Perry.

On the corner farthest from the stadium the Lyndon LaRouche supporters and their Obama-as-Hitler poster remained largely unengaged from the other assembled rabble. One of the LaRouche supporters, who refused to be identified, said that the group was there because “it’s all the same thing, Obama, Perry, they’re all trying to take over and take away your decisions.” He added, “We have to stand up to politicians who lie to us, one’s a Muslim, the other’s a Baptist, but that won’t matter when the jackboot comes down. … The fight between the Democrats and Republicans is just a distraction from the real fight against the government taking over our lives.”

I don’t know where this comes from.  It is either camouflaging with the worst of the political Demagoguery around them at the time — the Phelpses are right around the corner at this scene.   Or it’s somehow legitimately held by this man.  Anonymous man.  I suppose either low enough in the Larouche Deployment Food Chain to be anonymous, or deployed as anonymous so as to be able to say Obama is a Muslim.

I picked up, for pocket change, a copy of the Garry Allen 1976 “expose” on Henry Kissinger, a figure of vast disfavor.  This one relied heavily on the John Birch Society’s “American Opinion”.  It striked me that this would have been picked up at certain Liberty Lobby conferences alongside — well, Henry Kissinger and the Politics of Faggotry was never published for general consumption, so we’re down to these.

Meantime, curiously enough, this 9/11 Truth “anti-Zionist” website with domain “Muslim in Suffer”  is packed with Larouche material.  (More 9/11 Truther: ” Tulsa Change” 9/11 Truth site posts new EIR piece that brings up Smedley Butler’s accusation of Fascist Courp in the FDR-era as precursor to what Obama just pulled off.)

STORY NUMBER TWO:  HARLEY SCHLANGER HEADS “JUSTICE FOR JOHN WILEY PRICE” COMMITTEE MEETING UNDER THE NAME “JUSTICE FOR JOHN WILEY PRICE”.

The Justice for John Wiley Price Committee will hold an informational meeting for persons interested in volunteering.  A special presentation will be given by an historian who has chronicled the continuing illegal actions of the FBI and other government agencies in the targeting of African-American elected officials.
This FBI policy was named  “Operation Fruhmenschen” by director J. Edgar Hoover and continues to this day.  Mr. Schlanger  has worked with others, including former

Oddly enough, no mention of Lyndon Larouche.

Not all that much on his current controversy at wikipedia:

Price is currently being investigated by the FBI. [8]
“The search warrants served on Commissioner Price’s home and office, as well as his two associates, indicate the FBI is looking for evidence of tax evasion, bribery, money laundering, fraud and more.” [9]

This should end up being marshalled into the Kesha Rogers for Congress campaign, I imagine.
But I can’t find a Larouche representative’s name off of this list of the broader “Hands Off; Bold Black Leadership Rally“.

STORY NUMBER THREE: KENTUCY STATE SENATOR PERRY B CLARK URGES LAROUCHE PLAN FOR OBAMA IMPEACHMENT GLASS STEAGALL ENACTMENT NEW RENAISSANCE

You know where you go for “Urgent News”?  To the Comments section of the website “Patriot Update”.

URGENT NEWS!
Kentucky State Sen Joins LaRouche in call for Impeachment

The reaction at “Patriot Update is swift:  On impeachment of Obama— sounds like the birth certificate news could do that.  However, then you would have BIDEN for President—-more of an idiot that Obama.
I am not entirely sure what the “birth certificate news” is, but I’m sure there’s a certain amount of “whatever works” going on here.  (See too:
Obama is just a simple thug, a habitual offender taken care of all his life.  His crimes are significant–identity theft, forgeries, multiple aliases, real estate fraud, murder, habitual lying…and now add espionage, impersonation of a federal official, war crimes, money laundering, theft, extortion,  and bribery.
If this kind of person is what the New World Order and the incestuous Rockefeller/Rothschild boys and girls believe constitutes ‘leadership’, then you know in your heart that this is pure evil stalking this world. What say you, all 2012 Presidential candidates?  Are you as criminal and malleable as Obama?  What is your reason for running?  Who are your backers?)

August 9, 2011 • 11:20AM
In a statement issued today, Kentucky State Senator Perry B. Clark (D-District 37) called upon President Obama to step down, and Congress to pass Glass-Steagall legislation. The full statement reads as follows:

“LaRouche is absolutely right, he has a track record of being right for many, many years,” Clark said.
“He’s been shut down by the mainstream because he’s too much of a threat to the international financiers, he’s challenging the system too much, and they’re afraid of him.”
State Senate Democratic leadership has not yet returned a call asking for comment, but Clark says he is not concerned about any criticism they might have of the letter
.

Look in the comments section.  Carol Johnson Smith!.  She ran for a state legislator seat in Indiana and picked up 8 percent in a Democratic Primary.  I have an idea!  Perry B Clark, as the highest elected Larouchie in this nation, should be their candidate for President in 2012.  And Carol Smith can run for Perry Clark’s seat!  Or, maybe she can run for the Kentucky legislator and start a “Larouche bloc” in the Kentucky state Senate.

And so Clark gets called a “Tea Partier”.  And the state Democratic Party hems and haws, as they have before with Clark’s Larouchism:

The wild comparison and controversial comments present more than a usual gaffe for party officials to clean up, however. Besides being a prominent state Senator in the General Assembly, Clark is a legislative chairman for the Jefferson County Democratic Party and the group’s by-laws mandate those chairs pledge to support the party nominee.
“I’ m surprised and shocked at Perry Clark. Surprised and shocked. I didn’t know that he was that type of person,” says political activist Clarence Yancey, who serves as the party’s 43rd legislative district chair. “I didn’t want to believe it, but he should step down if he’s against the party and the party rules.”
Yancey says it’s up to Clark’s constituents if he should relinquish his Senate seat, but he did add that Clark should switch to LaRouche’s political party.

“Switch to Larouche’s political party”.  Ha ha ha.

“All right, we’re now faced, as many of you suspect or know, we’re now faced with the greatest crisis in the history of modern man. There’s nothing comparable to it, to what we face now. There are solutions, but the question is will the solutions be tolerated, or accepted?

Just to be sure what Parry is suggesting to put in motion.
Within hours of President Obama’s removal from office– through impeachment, or resignation, or through the invoking of the 25th Amendment, Section 4, providing procedures for a President’s removal from office if he is no longer mentally or physically competent to serve–the Congress could convene to pass legislation reinstating the Glass-Steagall separation of commercial banks from the brokerage and insurance sectors. A minimum of $17 trillion in Wall Street gambling debts, foisted on American taxpayers, would be thus charged back.”
This pre-supposes giant leaps at a few junctures.  One — if you want Obama’s low approval ratings to sky-rocket, just have the Republican Congress come out for Obama’s Impeachment off of a preposition that he is insane.  Two — Supposing he is removed, this would translate to Speaker Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Reid shephearding through the reinstatement of Glass Steagall for the signature of President Biden — somehow Obama is the big implement in this and not, for instance, the Financial Service Industry’s donation to a multitude of political figures — the same funding that had its removal passed by huge Congressional majorities and signed by President Clinton?  Three — the enactment of Glass Stagall will remove $17 Trillion off the national debt — how?  Magic?

During the annual Fancy Farm picnic last week, observers noted Republican statewide candidates hammered Mr. Obama repeatedly, but that no Democratic candidates came to his defense publicly. And some Democrats are seeing that silence bleed over into the city.
“It is vexing to me to no end that Democrats in this state have not and do not stand up on behalf of this president,” says state Rep. Reginald Meeks, D-Louisville, adding he read Clark’s letter and disagrees with all of his statement. “President Obama and his administration have been responsible for millions of federal dollars coming into our state to help on everything from natural disaster to health care. And this party has not gone out of its way to share with the public what benefits this administration has brought to the commonwealth.”

‘Tis the state Obama lost to Hillary Clinton in the late primaries by 40 point margins, and along with West Virginia poll respondents bluntly said it was about race.  Meantime:
Just imagine what dispirited and disappointed Leftists might do when faced with a primary ballot with Barack Obama and Lyndon LaRouche, that 60′s radical who is trying unseat Harold Stassen as having been on the most Presidential primary ballots ?
Not running.  And they’re not taking me up my idea of Sidney Hill or Perry Clark.

More in audio here, I assume.

Asked about possible censure, Democratic caucus leaders said they have discussed the remarks amongst themselves, but won’t disclose what disciplinary action—if any—will be taken against the state lawmaker. […]
Other elected officials have suggested an ethics inquiry due to Clark using official state letterhead in his remarks and some local party leaders have called for Clark to step down as a legislative chair in the Jefferson County Democratic Party.

Curiously:  Asked about whether he agrees with LaRouche on issues outside of economic policies, Clark would not comment. When pressed specifically on if the 9/11 terror attacks were committed by agents within the federal government, he gave a coded answer.
“I think anybody who thinks we have the whole story on 9/11 is sadly mistaken,” says Clark.
“The message got lost and they attacked the messenger. That is what’s going on. That’s what always happens with little people and little minds. No one has addressed Glass-Steagall. No one has addressed the lack of leadership from the very top to take on these financiers, who I think are wrecking the place,” he says.
Okay.  But there’s a bit of a messaging problem here.

Denying that he compared Mr. Obama to Hitler, Clark says his comments were intentionally provocative in order to bring attention to the country’s economic crisis and the lax regulation of the U.S. banking system.
“I did that purposefully to upset people. I wanted them angry, I wanted them thinking, I meant for it to be brash and I meant for it to be incendiary,” he says. ” People have to think about where we are.”
Contradiction there in his thought process.

STORY NUMBER FOUR:  WIKIPEDIA ACTION!!!

I guess we can say that the wikipedia list of grievances was resolved for the problem of simple name citation.  But then we run into some ground where things fall apart at:

3. It means that either Frankhouser was infiltrating the group as a government spy, or that he was approaching the group under false pretenses. The way the article is written now implies that he was a leading member of the group, which in turn implies guilt by association. I mean by that that the reader is supposed to think that LaRouche is somehow mixed up with the right-wing groups that Frankhouser was mixed up in. Another point: the article says “LaRouche established ties with the Ku Klux Klan and the Liberty Lobby in 1974.” What are “ties”? It looks like it is written deliberately vague so that the reader will think LaRouche somehow supported those groups.

I scratch my head at that last one.
t looks like it is written deliberately vague so that the reader will think LaRouche somehow supported those groups.
I suppose if we get Frankhouser out of the equation, we’ve nothing with the KKK.  The Liberty Lobby becomes more comical — is a statement in a book by Larouche that pegs Liberty Lobby members as True Patriots “support”?  This reminds me of reading a Larouche commenter charging against someone demanding a reference for Larouche’s Communist Background — is there a reset button for the organization’s history?

I imagine the Larouche Wikipedia Team’s response to this:
3) There’s no indication that Frankhouser connected with LaRouche in order to spy on him. On the contrary, it appears that LaRouche initiated the contact. It is certainly true that Frankhouser and his associates acted under false pretenses, but that was for personal gain. I think the article used to say more about that but it was probably cut somewhere along the way for space and relevancy reasons. It’s covered fully in Roy Frankhouser and LaRouche criminal trials. However adding more information on that topic could be construed as depicting LaRouche as a dupe who was fooled by someone who stroked his ego. Is that really a helpful direction for this bio?
AND This:
6) Bevel did different things at different times of his life. As a compromise I suppose we could add that he was a former civil rights leader who was currently engaged in incest with his underaged daughters. But I don’t think that’d be a net benefit to the article.
— That last one I have to repoint to my point from the last post: “Good lord that’s a convenient rounding job!” up to 20 years’ distance away from the trial.

TO THE ARBITRATION ROOM for arbitrary jury shopping.
The “Piven material” may be a case of “present-ism” — recent controversy involving Glenn Beck, some historical background of how the Larouchies handled Piven is good to know.  But in a long history of 40 years, we do have the difficulty of deciding what is relevant and whatnot.  I suppose the Larouchies would remove the whole topic tree and replace it with:
Larouche is the bravest smartest human alive today.  Wikipedia is a bunch of horse shit.
I assumed that that was from a good old fashioned prankster and not the Larouche Wikipedia Team, but I see the wikipedia demeaning happen in the “Perry Clark” story — and it’s fairly similar, so who knows?

The Wikipedia Problem:  I got news for ya. . . everyone need not have a voice or be heard. We don’t have time to pander to every fucking whack job with some Lyndon LaRouche grade agenda. The lunatic fringe would still be on the fringe if it hadn’t been for all that ‘touchy-feeley’ ‘feel good about yourself” kumbaya singing bullshit that today’s pop psychology and “equal time.” promoting politically correct social dictators want to shove down our throats.

This is kind of funny in its “diverting the facts” kind of way:

Here’s some evidence to refute your claim.  … LaRouche noted that the opportunity for Hillary Clinton to push through this useful tactical

Lyndon LaRouche? Gee, what does Alex Jones have to say about all this?

His site begs to differ:  Hillary and Obama’s attendance of the 2008 Bilderberg meeting, and the complete failure of the mainstream media to report on the fact, once again betrays the super-secretive nature and influential reputation that the 54-year-old organization still maintains.
No, Alex Jones does not like Hillary Clinton.

STORY NUMBER FIVE:  THE PO TOUR, and I’ll Call it the Virtual PO TOUR

Virtual PO Tour ACTIVISM.

Go to the Gold Bugs!  Get Crickets.

This whole system is in its last breaths and right now instead of waiting around for doom and gloom and stocking up on canned food and silver bullion, devote your energy to fighting for the solutions! Your physical existence means nothing if you did not leave something behind for the next generation, and the thing that will define this species is how we respond to this crisis. First thing we must do is remove Obama NOW! His allegiance is not with the United States, he is working on behalf of a foreign enemy. Once we do that we can restore Glass-Steagall (H.R. 1489) and start rebuilding and putting America to work in some of the largest re-industrialization works ever before imagined! This is Lyndon LaRouche’s Plan and I trust that his leadership is all that exists to get us out of this mess as his forecasting has been spot-on for decades strong. Him and the Larouche PAC are ready to move, join them and fight for this Republic.

here is a link to a call by Lyndon LaRouche, Helga Zepp-LaRouche and Jacque Cheminade on the current crisis and its remedies!

WATCH OUT FOR FALSE PROPHETS, Young one!

Question by bubblegum: Where/How to learn about politics?
I don’t want to just turn on the tv and start from no where, I want to know what’s been going on up until now-everything about politics,what’s a good place to start?I’m not planning on learning about politics from yahoo answers but I need to know where to get started because my parents don’t follow politics or I’d ask them so I need names of books or something.By the way,I’m 15 if that helps.

The Deprogramer Says:
August 6th, 2011 at 11:08 pm The LaRouche Political Action Committee

PO TOUR ACTION!

Dateline New Jersey — On Obama — Hitler signs, which floated at Teacher Union rallies in New Jersey:  “which is, of course, despicable“.

Dateline Fairfax: They were in Fairfax on Friday. Rather than get angry, I feel it is best to make hate-mongers look silly. So I went out on the sidewalk with my own table, pushed up against them (so I looked like one of them), and gave away Kool-Aid, offering it to folks to “further hatred and intolerance in our small town.” 🙂
The best thing about what Jory did is it made them leave! They could not take it. What ever their agenda, it makes no sense to have that hateful poster. In fact, if you ask them why they put a Hitler mustache on Obama, they wont explain it. I believe their posters express their hatred on both Jews and African- Americans.

Dateline Holden:  Holden has a sidewalk ordinance that clearly states that no political sign can be within two feet of a sidewalk. I called the police to see if they were aware of the booth and they said they had already been by and determined they were not blocking the sidewalk so they would allow it. OK, I guess this falls under police discretion and the police should be able to use their best judgement. I wrote one of the select board to bring it to their attention. Next I thought I would check out the legality of political actions on federal property (the post office) because a friend, accused of electioneering on federal property, was asked to stop by police. This was because she was to some folks while in line about her candidacy for the select board in that town.

Well, it turns out you can’t be for or against a particular candidate on federal property, but you can be for or against issues. The Larouche kool-aid drinkers (and pictured as the ass clowns they are) were collecting signatures on a petition to invoke the 25th amendment (article 4) to remove Obama because he is “incapacitated.” This is their “issue.” They don’t like Obama, they like Larouche (his name was on everything) but they talked anti-healthcare and impeachment so this skirts the federal rules on electioneering.

Dateline Oakland:  Once they had assured Cornell that she was still living in August 2011, the Oakland Press did what responsible news organizations should do—they wrote a story about two flunkies in the fringiest of fringe groups and their obnoxious sign.
President Obama, of course, is a grown-up who probably won’t lose sleep over being compared to Hitler by these guys. After all, LaRouche is the same crank who believes Queen Elizabeth “invented” the Beatles in a secret lab to help solidify her control of the global drug trade. He also believes the World Wildlife Fund and the ghost of H.G. Well are behind the military-industrial complex’s “Satanist conspiracy” for never-ending war. Being called names by Lyndon LaRouche and his flunkies is badge of honor, really.
This “oh no some weirdos are still using an outdated Obama meme” story is part of an ignoble line of awesome crowd-sourced stories from the Oakland Press.
Ted Sakona.

Dateline Farmington, Michigan
Two men who said they were from LaRouche PAC turned heads in front of Riley Park Tuesday morning, with a display that included a sign urging citizens to “Dump Obama.”

Both men refused to reveal their names and would not say whether they lived in the community. One of the men recommended going to LaRouchePAC.com for more information. The other said they weren’t allowed to give interviews to reporters, but said they had been on the street all morning and had engaged a number of passersby in conversation.

While he was speaking, a passing motorist honked and gave the men a “thumbs up” sign.

Dateline San Anselmo:

A disturbance occurred in San Anselmo on Saturday surrounding some political signs and left people wondering what was that all about?

According to Det. Cpl. Julie Gorwood, the LaRouche Political Action Committee set up a table on San Anselmo Avenue, near the Wells Fargo. The group has previously tabled outside the Bank of America in Fairfax.

A number of residents called the police about the inflammatory messages of the group, including a poster of Obama with a Hitler mustache.

At 12:55 p.m., a cyclist riding by the set-up on San Anselmo Avenue tore down the posters and challenged one of the protestors to a fight. At 3:06 p.m., one of the members of the group asked the San Anselmo Police for assistance breaking up a heated debate.

And from 23 months ago:

 

Larouchies are seriously disturbed people. I refuse to talk to them. I walk by them and they start running down the street after me calling me a drug dealer. It’s good they haven’t gotten too close because my discipline only goes so far. I have never actually kicked someone in the mouth but it would be interesting to see how good my training has been.

 This week’s assortment of people compared to larouche.

Ask about Larouche, get snipped away and taken back to Ayn Rand.

Mike Gravel.

Random Washington Senate candidate:  Usually when you hear about a slightly wacky person running for office who is also gung-ho for space, they end up being LaRouchies. I guess he’s more of an independent thinker.

Lew Rockwell:

I’ve been with this whole libertarian gig for about 15 years and I still don’t know what a Lew Rockwell is.
It’s either a gay movie star from the 50s or a sort of rash that pops up around the fringes of any legitimate libertarian discussion a few pussy hairs away from LaRouche.
Why can’t it be both?

Initials are RP:
5) a dyed in the wool libertarian who has about as much chance of winning as had Lyndon Larouche the umpteen times he ran.
We’ve seen this behavior before.”  Is Paul the Right’s Lyndon LaRouche? Nope.  You proved it right here.  He rambles, sometimes slipping into incoherence… This implies that Ron Paul is coherent at least some of the time.  I am not aware of anyone having ever accused LaRouche of being coherent.  Me and my brother pwned some LaRouchians when they were passing out flyers outside of Starbucks. They’re so fucking stupid.   If you know who Lyndon LaRouche is, you need to get out more.  As for Lyndon LaRouche, I’ve never understood why he was able to generate any following, but I’ve always felt that it was a really cool name! Like a stage name or one that would be made up for a movie, e.g., Lash LaRue, Snidely Whiplash, Headly LaMarr.

While one has to admit that this fraud is quite clever, anyone with half a brain and any experience with the way those in the progressive movement talk and think would know that this is a fraud; or else something written by Lyndon LaRouche or Gus Hall back in the day.  But the J14 movement?  Not a chance.  I’d say that not even Hadash would use such rhetoric.

 When I was young, the Republicans were the stodgy party. Sensible, responsible, conservative… too conservative for my tastes, but decidedly not loony (well, except for Lyndon Larouche). But over the years, they’ve drifted farther and farther into loony land — a land that was once the sole dominion of the left.

True to its Klu Klux Klan roots, the Democrat Party, Nanacy Pelosi, and Lyndon LaRouche are still using racism to advance their power.

Notable INTERNATIONAL COVERAGE:

US Biggest Loser in Bahrain Uprising  Steinberg on Press TV
Lawrence Freeman on Press TV:  West to Blame for African Famine

Wait.  I think I know the angle to get onto Iran’s Press TV.

What is the proper mathematical equation to describe the effects of Larouche appearing on Alex Jones?

Thursday, August 4th, 2011

MINOR OSLO TERROR Tangent WRAP UP
Alexandar Cockburn and Counterpunch slides into that “publisher of William Lind” problem
 — William Lind a person who figures prominently in the manifesto and assorted postings of Oslo Terrorist Andrew Breivik .

This is followed by more criticism for Cockburn, which includes this.:
Another curious fact about Lind’s analysis is that it appears to have been influenced by a tract by Lyndon Larouche operative, –  “The New Dark Age: The Frankfurt School and ‘Political Correctness’” —

I note that the factnet message board user, “Friend” has been posting sarcastic strawmen — sarcasm which vary.  One recurring idea is about the cult’s post Larouche existence being a prelude to an organization dedicated to the mass slaughter of Jews.  I suppose I can ponder a radical splinter group with that bearing.  But an uncomfortable fact is that the article “The New Dark Age:  The Frankfurt School and ‘Political Correctness'” — is referenced online exclusively by people who, if not desiring the immediate elimination of Jews, Homosexuals, and Atheists — believe they have a controlling influence in world affairs and seek to eradicate that controlling influence.  The backlog of the organization’s articles show up a good number of pieces of this type — and a good product is to look about and catalog the citation-ers for such articles as, oh for instance, the “Truth about the ADL”.

Meantime, the writer of the “New Dark Age” piece wrote his regrets — which can be found here.

LYNDON LAROUCHE TO THE ALEX JONESETH POWER
The monthly conflab with former CIA operative and presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche  (or is he “a famous American economist of French or Canadian origin“) and Alex Jones achieved a tiny bit more “viral” action than previous appearances, this being owed to the better news-timing which creates the more immediate “HITLER!” analogy opportunity.  “This is the moment”, apparently, that America turns into Nazi Germany.  The line has a certain attraction.  Here are the good folks atune enough to this message to link and hawk the thing.

NCN Blogger.  Criminal Invaders twitter feed  (blog wanting to “Build a Wall and Deport them all“).  A blog post form trends king Gerry Celente has former Presidential Candidate and political pin cushion to the globalists Lyndon LaRouche called Obama/Soetoro WHAT HE TRULY IS!  (Most recent posts include one about Obama’s birth certificate.)  Your Jehovah’s Witness fan of the day.  Watch this Interview BUT  (Be aware He is NOT a Christian and has New Age /evolution of humanity point of view… as if we can “fix” our problems without Divine help)  “Live Free or Die Report“.  Off Grid Survival Blog. Well, it is here — from Debra Freeman… IT IS HERE!!!  Some random guy here.  This guy goes into sarcasm mode after taking it all in with all credence.

Alex Jones and Lyndon Larouche make up more than the sum of their parts.  It is not Alex Jones plus Lyndon Larouche — it is Alex Jones MULTIPLIED BY Lyndon Larouche.  Or maybe it is Lyndon Larouche to the Alex Jones power?  Work out the equation however you might.  I personally have not used illicit drugs, but I gather that this thing makes for a good substitute for psychedelics.   Read this array of comments *and we get an acid trip — and the real reason that Larouche takes a hard line against drugs (he already has a potent mixture of paranoia — a cocktail mix may prove deadly.)

We see in the comments sections Larouchies making a Recruitment bid.  I understand this pretty well focuses like a laser on Larouche’s target audience, unlike, for instance, Steinberg making his foray onto Iranian Press TV.

It is interesting to note that on the following day, another former presidential candidate — and described as such in the bio — Chuck Baldwin made an  appearance on the Alex Jones Show.  He gave his take on the recent dealings in Washington, parallel but distinct from Larouche’s — it may be worth a compare and contrast.  Now, Chuck Baldwin has been getting a bit of media coverage in relation to his part in the revitalization of right-wing extremist activity in Kalispell, Montana and the Flathead Valleay area.  He moved from Pensecola, Florida, as God told him that Kalispell, Montana is where the “Freedom Fight”‘s center is going to come.  He held a rally with 200 people in the cold Winter, and inspired the mother of the neo-nazi teeny bopper pop duo Prussian Blue to post invitations on stormfront for everyone to move on to the area.  There’s a good deal more (right?) — Oath Keepers, the former president of the local Tea Party was ousted for posting facebook comments mocking Matthew Shepherd’s death, a group has rented the Library room to show Holocaust Denial films, and on and on.  It is interesting to see Chuck Baldwin follow up Lyndon Larouche, and reading the comments threads for Larouche’s appearances, I imagine how an Alex Jones listener processes the two.  One day, he is gripped by the horror and spectre of the Obama Hitler and the official start of America’s Nazi Germany moment.  Wondering what is to be done, all he knows is that we need to implement Glass Steagall.  It’s not enough, though.  The next day he hears Chuck Baldwin expound on the same slide of America.  And it becomes clear — he needs to move to Montana, and prepare.  How prepare?  Enact Glass Steagall!  AND… if the Feds come in to take the Glass Steagall away, Just try it — the ammo is at the ready.

SKEPTICISM

Some skepticism abounds about what Larouche had to say on the Alex Jones Show.
Typical larouche, ”reformed” communist carrying on like a pork chop.
What Hitler coup?
Can anyone tell me what this means?
Keep in mind that Bohemian Grove just finished. It’ll be the Sr. Rockefeller behind this attempted coup. He needs to be exposed.

From “Glass Steagall Fan“:  The associated video explains the ‘super congress’ that is part of the debt ceiling agreement. Essentially it makes the current congress impotent.
LS – I can’t find any communist background on Larouche. Can you enlighten me?
(Really?  This Larouche fan — and he goes on to post the Larouche articles –pretends that the “Communist Background” doesn’t exist?  Really?)

Goldbugs react with some skepticism.
I don’t think that guy had enough caffeine this AM.
Whatever he had it was too much.
 How exactly is this a coup? Is there some measure in it all that extends Obama’s term of office? This guy seems a little hyperbolic or unhinged.
“We’ve got 24 hours”  I’m off to rearrange my sock drawer…..
Are you crazy!!?? I already started calling every single member of congress. HITLER COUP!!!!!!!
Today Lyndon LaRouche issued this urgent call.   Aaannd that’s where you lost me…
Guess we can all stay home from work the rest of the week since the world is coming to an end.

More skepticism here — from someone playing with Nazi analogies him/her self.
Finally and most disturbing, here are ur-cooks Alex Jones and Lyndon LaRouche saying that Obama will become Führer of America today because of the debt deal’s passage, just like Hitler became Führer of Germany on August 2, 1934 (apparently, there’s a secret clause in the law giving Obama dictatorial powers). The real scary thing is the number of people that believe this crap.

Aperbik responds:
If the package worked out through the debt ceiling negotiations with the Obama administration is passed, it means that the United States is sunk overnight, and the U.S. and the world goes into a Dark Age.
Wait.  I thought we already entered the New Dark Age.  Or was it a quick dark age, which is to be followed by another short dark age… and then another… and —

Former Small Time Reporter in Peoria.  How it plays in Peoria.  Schlep it off to the Tea Party:  No real source was given for this message.  I was going to make a joke about Tea Partiers, because God knows how many Tea Partiers actually believe this. Hm.  Real source?  Debra Freeman — there’s your real source!
PO TOUR UPDATE: HAIKUS!!!

Dateline Roanoke, Virginia

Sing Hitler Themed Songs
Wave banner for Glass Steagalls
Will be called Douches

 Dateline Central Valley, out of San Francisco.
Fight for high ideas
Umbrella toward the traffic
to flash glass steagalls.

Some – like James and Perebikovsky – believe that repealing the Glass-Steagall Act directly resulted in the Financial Crisis of 2007.

And even though their approach might be somewhat extreme to the layperson, James sees the current times as somewhat of a call to arms for all Americans to stand up for what they believe in before it’s too late.

“What they want is to get you out of the way. And people think that they’re just going to wait it out, or take it to the ballot box in 2012,” she said. “But if we don’t fight on the higher idea, the only other way is to bankrupt the financial institution.”

Vrad766:  Go back to San Francisco and stop bothering people…that’s what Don Rickles would tell you.
Youcandoit:  You don’t fix a sinking ship by increasing the size of the gash in the hull. We need a competent Captain, not a perpetual presidential candidate.

Dateline Bayport.

Michael Billington
Sends Hitler Analogies
Special Delivered!

“We need to do something about it now,” Billington said. “All hell is going to break loose soon.”


Michael Billington — IN ACTION!  Doing Something about the Hell that is about to break loose.

Henry MacWhirr:
Obama is an updated version of Nixon.  (Was Nixon Hitler?)

Dateline Harrison, New York
Hm.
The LaRouche PAC is an international political movement that works to promote LaRouche’s political ideas and ambitions.
Sure.

Troubadours are we
Playing Hitler Obamas
ACross metro spots.

 

 

 

 

Dateline Huntsville  (see too)

Overton Window
Slides straight into Godwin’s Law
Cops move them on out.

Watkins, along with a few friends, approached the LaRouche followers with their concerns.
“I fought for this country so that people can believe whatever they want,” he said. “We only had a problem with the pictures. You draw the line at the commander-in-chief.”
[I don’t much like that attitude, but in his case I’m pretty sure it’s consistently held]
Overton claimed Watkins and others attempted to rip flyers and disrupt their booth. Watkins said only one woman grabbed the actual poster, which was securely taped to the table. […]

Eventually, the Huntsville Police Department arrived to the scene. Officers threatened to issue citations to both parties, but after speaking with the postmaster, decided instead that illustrations of Obama as Hitler had to be removed because of incitement.
“You could put up any sign you want that says ‘Impeach Obama’ or you disagree with his policies, but referencing the man to Hitler is obviously in the wrong,” Officer Chris Myers told Overton.
The LaRouche followers left the post office soon after speaking with police but also appeared at Tuesday’s City Council meeting delivering the same message.

Iain Overton:  Oh my God. I have a namesake in Huntsville who is clearly a tea party fan. Obama turning the US into a dictatorship? My twin alter ego clearly hasn’t been to a dictatorship.  No.  You have a namesake who is a Larouchie.  Difference.  (See here — I won’t delve into the current non-controversy that evoked this blog post, which is much ado about nothing)

This is sort of a typical manner in defusing charges and counter-charges of violence.
Lt. Barnes says the biggest concern of the officers was that the poster debate would become physical, so they offered up the idea that the posters could come down, but that the protesters could remain at their booth and hand out their literature. Barnes says both sides agreed to that solution.
News 3 is waiting to hear back from the LaRouche PAC’s representatives in Houston concerning this incident. Barnes says the protesters remained at the post office for a while longer even after the posters were taken down.

We have some debate on the issues of free speech here.  Interesting to see the name of the sheriff with “Strikes Again” — this is that sheriff’s approach.  blomejj chimes in:  I don’t have any problem with Lyndon LaRouche and considered him a political prisoner when he was in prison. He is not blaming Obama for how all of the presidents since Carter have been pulling down the US. He and his supporters appear opposed to using a twelve person legislative committee to resolve the unsolved budget issues. Normally I would agree some with LaRouche, but haven’t committees been used for this purpose more in more during the last one hundred or so years?

This Huntsville post office plays by different rules than this Library Meeting Room.

But it is really appropriate for what we’re talking about when it comes to library meeting room space.  Goddess Oceana has just as much a right to meet as the Democratic City Committee, as the Lyndon Larouche fanatics, as the bookclubbers, as the Intercambio conversation group, as the Friends. 

WIKIPEDIA UPDATES

The Larouche Wikipedia Team are waging two major battles.  One is at the Movement page, where Rumiton and Cla68 continue to push in “Supporters” instead of “Followers”.  Follow Cla68 to his / her rule that “a description of a movement should first describe the movement as its members see themselves and then list outside opinions” to its conflusion and I imagine a lot of space taken up on the page to the “controversy” with the “critics” asserting the word “Followers” — it could be a subsection?

Rumiton spots several references to “members” and “volunteers” and then, for reasons that elude me, brings in Larouche’s “current political stand” by excerpting a “piece dated yesterday” — I can’t tell if Rumiton is positive or negative on the load of Hot Air he excerpts, and what one is supposed to do with it in regard to wikipedia editing.

The second area of battle is a list of grievances — or supposed problems — to be addressed at the Larouche page.  This has a lot of old familiar efforts — a dropped Validator for SDI, for instance.  Two stand out as interesting.  Waakies wants to wash out Larouche’s representation of his childhood, not seeing the value of his “nasty duckling” line.  I imagine recent posts I’ve seen online which make mocking reference to this played a part in the realization that this can be interpreted in light of Larouche’s Hot Air.  And therein lies the classic problem of wikipedia editing of this topic — Neutral becomes negative by dent of reflection.
The other item up to their dispute concerns James Bevel.  They, naturally, want to emphasize his work with MLK on the Larouche page, and less so the “Franklin Cover-Up” work.  Also they point out that “he was not convicted on incest until 20 years after his association with Larouche” — a line I find mighty convenient in terms of rounding numbers.  Meantime, “revenire” here at this blog — at the time of the Bevel news — suggested a set-up along the lines of the propaganda against Martin Luther King, Jr.

MISCELLANEOUS

Comparing to Beck and Republican Party
Kinda like when I saw a Lyndon Larouche 30 minute spot right after watching Saturday Night Live in 1976. I wondered if it was still part of the comedy.

“I think about Lyndon Larouche nowadays. Nobody took him seriously then, except lunatics (as I recall, anyway). He would be a national star now, probably.”

It’s like the worst of McCarthyism, Know-Nothingism, the John Birch Society, the Larouchies, the “Moral Majority,” and the Dixiecrats (e.g., George Wallace, Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms) all joined together and decided to destroy our country.

What we call “The Right” actually is a grab-bag of paleoconservatives, Tea Partiers, Christian Dominionists, Libertarians, gun nuts, and a handful of LaRouchies (who, like Zoroastrian fundamentalists or Bruce Willis, don’t realize they’re ghosts yet).

 The meaning of Randal Terry’s campaign:
Given that he has some fundraising potential—he’s already running a few Iowa radio ads—it seems likely that he could be the only Democratic candidate on the ballot besides Obama in many states. In some places, with very low turnout it seems possible that he could get a delegate or two to the national convention if ardent pro-lifers decide to vote for him. (This isn’t impossible: Cultist Lyndon LaRouche has managed to win a few delegates in the past.) They probably won’t be seated but, if they are, it could make for a few interesting blow-ups in what’s sure to be an otherwise stage-managed, coronation-like convention.

Ayn Rand acolytes:.  Nobody is going to challenge Obama from within his party. There was brief talk of Hilary Clinton doing this, and it went noplace. Susan Sarandon or Sean Penn might jump in, but they’ll have as much effect as Lyndon LaRouche when he used to do the same. 

 Remembering 1989.  Think about this. He wasn’t leaving mimeographed bile erotica at truck stops in 1989 and then sitting by the phone crossing his fingers that some like-minded degenerate would call the 900 number in the letterhead. He was on the internet.­ Civilization’s newly-opened steam valve on thousands of years of taboo. Remember when pot was kind of an underground thing? Remember when you could never find yourself accidentally reading an essay by Lyndon LaRouche? Remember when you had never seen even a picture of a dead body, outside of a war textbook? Now I can pull up, within seconds, crime scene photos of Jeff Dahmer’s fridge on my phone to settle a bet. And every kink you can think of, even as solely an exercise in grotesqueness, already has a community devoted to it. That’s an acknowledged fact. Quantum physics writ large (if you get that pun, I say to you NERRRRRD). Every perfect has joined perverted forces with every other brother in perversion.

Cue “Toward a Republican Labor Party” for this one:  The best (and maybe only hope) for the country and Progressives is that there is no debt-limit increase agreement— and the resulting economic turmoil is seen by voters as the fault of all Repubs, some Blue-Dog dems and BHO. And the voters will be correct in assigning blame, in that case — and have time before the 2012 primary season to massively reject many incumbents– including BHO. I see no other alternative with an outcome that actually might give us a Democratic President and Congress in 2012– as opposed to choosing between a Reagan and a LaRouche Republican and at best a divided Legislative Branch.

Dateline Pleasanton:
I’m saying Ron Paul is an incompetent hack, and I don’t trust anything he says. He’s unable to make himself intelligible except for the mentally deranged fringe crowd who’d be gathering around Lyndon LaRouche or some other slimeball if they didn’t have this clown of obfuscation to worship.

 Ron Paul is a flake & has no influence on the party. He is the new Lyndon LaRouche

Intervention Update:  Drug-legalization advocate Zaffaroni is well known to the LaRouche movement. In August of 2009, members of the LaRouche Youth Movement (LYM) confronted him as he addressed the Latin American Conference on Drug Policy … And now something about a Prostitution Scandal, or something.  Yeah, well… they didn’t trash Eliot Spitzer, did they?

The Rachel Brown — Barney Frank “Dining Room Table” makes Comedy Centrral’s “Snark Week” — yes, it is a moment of political lore.  It should be an honor to sit there in the Hall of Greatness alongside Lloyd Bentsen telling Dan Quayle “You’re no Jack Kennedy”.

WHAT DOES FRED PHELPS THINK ABOUT LYNDON LAROUCHE

Asking Fred Phelps about Larouche.  Why?  Because it’s what everyone wants to know.

Thank you for the Hatemongers DVD. I showed in my church and the film was well recieved. The WBC message has come to Australia! I have one question: what is Pastor Fred Phelps and the WBC opinion on Lyndon LaRouche?

……….

As for your question about Larouche: he is an evil, money-grubbing thief (spending time in jail for stealing from people) and is bound for hell. His agreement in his own mind that homosexuality is wrong is really no different from a blind hog finding an acorn. He didn’t believe it because of a humble heart of obedience to his God;  it’s his own sense of righteousness (man-made) that motivates him. Pastor Phelps is a humble man who has spent all of his days since the age of 16,
serving the Lord in fear and laboring in the word DAILY. Phelps knows the Bible, by the hand of God, better than any man alive on earth today; he is
nothing like that fool. You’re majoring in the minors here, Daniel. You have bigger fish to fry. The Lord is coming.

Well, it makes more sense to ask Phelps this question than it does to ask this to them —Greatest Generation and War and — ?  Why are you asking this question to these people?

…………………………………………………….
COMMENTPALOOZA
*  All right.  Here’s your array of anonymous and sometimes not anonymous Jones — larouche commenters.  Need a soundtrack?  Okay.  Two songs:  “Too Much Paranoias” by Devo and “Insane in the Membrane” by Cyprus Hill.  (Don’t click the links if you don’t want to hear these two songs, which I imagine you don’t.)

Alex Jones report:
LaRouche would make a good president.
Mr. LaRouche doesn’t like the British too much!!!
Thats just crazy!
This is a constitutional crisis! The treason ends here!
on msn.com it says it pass it… to THE GUN STORE(ILLEGAL)
Lyndon inspired me. I know exactly what to do once this is all over, but I don’t think I’ll be able to quickly enough… but we’ll see.
Great show, get ready
Grab your guns, Get ready for a revolution. We will win. And get our country back.
JESUS CHRIST SAVE US….THIS BILL WILL GO THRU ON AUG 3RD…..ITS THE SAME DAY THAT COMET ELELNIN CROSSES EARTHS ORBIT….ITS CLOSEST APPROACH TO EARTH IS ON 9/11/2011
It’s time we tie chains to the banks with big vehicles and drive off with so their fucking buildings fall. Obama must be stopped. That Mitch O’connell is a traitor to the people. It’s time that the bankers are lined up in a guillotine for high treason. The UK is on the brink of collapse. I can heat OFF WITH THEIR HEADS breaking the sound barrier. The globalists must taste hell.
I’m worried. Will we still be able to buy beer and watch football if the middle class is kaput? My favorite porn sites omg so scary!
This is insanity!!! The current admin couldn’t be able to pull this off so quickly… I thought something like this would take years and years for something this big to happen?? Is this for real? Is this true? How soon till this all happens???
instead of a sleepy comment such as Time to end, Let us say to all, ‘Get off your butt and do something’, Alex Jones And Lyndon LaRouche are doing a lot to wake people from accepting slavery & starvation though people are so asleep, so scared, or on drugs, or Seduced by Hollywood, – in total it is demoralisation, that they are inactivated. It is not time to give up it is time to Wake UP, Get Busy. What Have I done to help? A question we need to answer every moment of our Life.
I find this all very humorous. Lyndon has been doing this for forty years? And yet nothing is done until the end game. Something is amiss here, and I feel it’s in the interpretation of the information. Alex has been doing this for 16 years, and is great just like Lyndon, but neither of them gets anything done. Are they accountable, could it be that life is time to end. I certainly think so. My perception is different, I’ve never had so much as I have now. Go figure.
Okay, I’ve been listening to LaRouche for 30 minutes, and I consider myself fairly smart on average, but I can’t figure out what the hell he’s talking about.
Man made virus aimed at those 60+ yrs. old. They have already tested a couple of strains. Solves so many “problems” for TPTB. WW3 would kill off too many young slaves, whom are needed. The pandemic would take out a big chunk of boomers, perhaps they would put the death trigger in the annual flu shot vaccine? Then announce a “mild” flu season, only “seniors” should get the shot. Then unleash something that only attacks those who got the shot. Just thinking like these evil assholes.
Paul + Larouche 2012
white nationalism is the only answer. only white people have the brains and motivation to overthrow them. we must starve the beast then expose their fake Luciferian war cult/permanent military indiustrial complex and globaL BANKING/LUCIFERIAN CHOICE. the super congress is to protect the oligarchy and defeat the will of the people
Are these the end times lol? If this works this is the end times I think.
It is Edom who is behind the Illuminati Edom is not white. Edom is the synagogue of satan. go screw yourself. dont talk to me.

MORE FUN
LaRouche is the TRUTH. Great to see him on again Alex.
No Jesus Christ is the TRUTH! As long as you accept Jesus Christ as your LORD and Savior, you are save.
AJ and LL, have stones of fire hardened titanium.
Who would you rather be in a bunker with AJ and LL
or obama and Biden ?
if you wanna live probably obamy cus theyd fire nukes and kill the world but if you wan freedom aj and ll all the way
I first found out on this supercongress treason, on LarouchPAC, This is treason! you can not vote for this congress, If you vote? then what is the point of your existence? This is the implementation of an oligarcy in congress,
We need a Moe Howard style of crackdown. Who want to be Curly?
Before he was voted into office I knew there was something off with Obama. I got that vibe. Now I see I was right all along with all I said.
im poor dont own any guns and there is no organized resistance what could I do alone or 20 people? we need everyone especially if they start live fire and using drone helicopters
If Obama is re-elected in 2012 he will be in office after 2016 in my opinion. I know of the 2 term rule but Obama and his buddies are corrupt as anything I’ve ever known, i.e Soros, H. Clinton, Susan Rice, Samantha Power, Eric Holder, Big Sis and thre are others that don’t come to mind..
The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots. Shit is going to hit the fan seriously soon
I know and ill be there just aint gonna run into a line of fire for no reason when they could call me a lone right-wing terrorist
Right on. haha! A terrorist, they call Iraqis terrorists.. They are freakin defending themselves from invaders. When the people serve their government there is tyranny, when the government serves the people there is liberty.
Time for isreal to take over now thanks to British and American empire now we going to be slaved by the most evilest Rothschild state. first USA must invade another middle east or Pakistan next and then it will crash yep paper money collapse affecting the world economy and all USA golds is being transferred to Israel no gold in fort Knox.
What is unfolding looks less like Nazi plan but much more like a Bolshivic blue print to take over in a blood bath.
2012 race Ron Paul vs Barak Hitler – it’s 1933 all over again, who are you gonna choose America ?
lyndon larouche is also a fraud who wants you to give him your hard earned money while he has been wrong over and over and over again !!! fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on ME !!!
it’s England and those in congress. They are the ones who committed this fraud. he’s not even a citizen. This is a frig gin outrage. That’s it… I can’t take this sh!t anymore, I’m committing Hara Kiri.
what are YOU doing?? what more have YOU done than post THIS on youtube?? are you out there throwing Molotov cocktails at the whitehouse or something? seriously tell us, enlighten us on your methods of “doing something”! perhaps then people will “DO” something, when to actually do!
Anyone seen Igor lately? He loves these types of videos.
Thumbs up if you think Larouche could easily be mistaken for rupert murdoch lol
yeah you’re right. unless we went down there with a group bigger than the police and military that show up, and we win that first battle, then we’ve lost.
think there is a BIGGER issue needing addressed here. Obama will not have the support to implement this new power…could this be leading up to a NEW BIGGER False Flag with the benevolent beloved Ricky Perry coming in to save the day same way Hitler did for the people to demand him use such power? Wishful thinking, it would be nice if Ron Paul got elected, such power would allow him to reverse things overnight that destroyed this nation.
I think you have a good point. We already lost, I don’t think we can win. Because if a large abundance of people go down there, they will have an excuse for martial law, But if we don’t go down there they will enslave us in anyways. It’s just how do we want to go down. I hope many realize that this nwo is predicted in the bible and if you’re a follower of Jesus, you already won.
I just put an infowars(dot)com bumper sticker on my car. I know it’s not much but it’s something. Talking and fighting with family and friends for me has been mostly unsuccesful but I know that when you stand with truth a trickle can become a flood. The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Gov. do not have answers to peaceful protests. The mainstream media has been getting two thumbs down from me ever since I’ve listened to AJ. I’m in revolt
This will be the bloodiest battle in the hbistory of the world if they think they will just robb Americans of America!! They are deeply mistaken, the “think Tank” that initiated this evil must have been the most psychotic scum the world has ever produced, or they are not from this world.nothing will suprise me anylonger. I am sick to see my country in critical condition cos of a bunch of losers that are hell bent on killing humans and destroying gods creations.B on th Right side of history & WIN
i’m with you. but i think the only way for anyone to do anything is to get the undying support of the people around them…block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood. each man has to know that his neighbor will die protecting him, and the he will do the same. every street must be ready to take on an army and hold it’s ground or die trying. it just may come to that…but strength in numbers will win, and we have more numbers than the governments arm of force. its about starting
If you believe that non-violence is the only solution, even against violent deception masters, you have been thoroughly brainwashed by the globalist and their media!
This interview inspired me to finally put a infowars bumper sticker on my bumper. Talking to obama football watching zombos is less then worthless, off the charts worthless unless they are family.
didn’t think alex jones know who franz kafka was lol…
I would like to see Alex Jones on Bill Maher.
Lyndon LaRouche is certifiably insane and has been for decades. You’re really scraping the bottom of the cesspool for sensationalism, Alex. Honestly! ROTFLMAO!
Only the insane would dismiss his comments and laugh on the floor.  Normallacy bias? Check  Pretty scary you will soon be bowing down to Michelle Obama She wears the pants in that family.
This Anglo-American garbage is a distraction to divert people away from the obvious Zionist control over our country.  It’s pathetic.
the zionist are part of the anglo american oligarchy. i would even say they are predominant. but there ae others apart of them
Alex Jones should take some steroids or something and do a workout regimen and get all ripped like Sylvester Stallone was and then come onto his show and be like “Hi” and we’ll be all like “Woooow”
You heard it first here people. Obama is going to mass-kill Jews in a Hitler style legislation because he wants to be super-rich. We’re all going to start killing each other and people will die everywhere.
THIS is what Obama was created for the take down of America
The notion that the British Empire created Hitler is embarrassingly stupid. Yes, Obama and the Congress are monsters, but La Rouche is full shit also. Be careful where you get your information. This man has ZERO credibility. Read Celente, Faber, Schiff, Rogers and those guys; La Rouche has been peddling the same “blood on the streets by tomorrow” crap since I was in high school. Prepare for the worse, of course, but don’t fall for false prophets.
so did he become fuhrer today?. i can’t believe alex is still pushing this paranoia
This was good – I needed a good laugh.
The mega banks are owned by Jews, for Jews!
In Democracy, Democ is Demon and cracy is government .. Satanic Government system … a system in which you count people instead of weight them then you are asking for big trouble! Guess who invented Democracy!? All this is bound to happen and spiritual people from centuries ago had predicted the demise of the West which includes USA.
YOU’RE ALL NUTS..!!!!!!!!!1
death in the streets, understatement. I fear for the people of USA, GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE.

Holy shit!! Can you imagine a Black Hitler!!
LaRouche is right. The solution is Beam Weapons. Turn the Oval Officer into a laser matrix and cut that sucker to fuckin pieces. Then it’s the Chinese – Zap Hong Kong to fuck. Russia’s been cool though, Russia Today being the last Capitalist Stronghold against the Socialist Mainstream Media’s Mainstream Scoialist Corporatism.
LaRouche can get the New Black Panthers to hook up with the OC NSM and some Ex-Mossad and Apartheid Mercs.
Zap em Alex!!!
Obamas science Czar Holdren co-wrote Ecoscience and his friend, Max Ehrlich, wrote a movie called Zero Population Growth. /watch?v=p2skwjiDZyc
I’m not making it up.
They are killing people by mandating Ethanol be made of Corn already.
So, now lets watch and see as Obama becomes the next Fuhrer. I’m sure it’ll happen anytime.
I have great respect for LaRouche. He TRULY loves the USA and is a constitutionalists. If anyone could pull us out of this with force and dignity as well as charisma, it’s LaRouche. He is totally aware of the Rothschild bankster Zionist connection and has been for decades. If you want to know how much the NWO hates LaRoushe, read his history. They were so afraid of his expertise and knowledge, they trumped up charges and threw him in prison!
This is a retarded video and channel.
I like my guns and freedom more than I do my Social Security I am now a independent because George Bush took my freedom with the Patriot Act and Obama is trying to take my guns so I vote for only people that supports gun rights and freedom. I put guns first because without guns we will shortly lose our freedom I am 68 years old I own a small farm and a good retirement I will sacrifice it all for my children and grandchildren to keep their freedom
I bet the idiots who liked this video worship Adolf Hitler
Beam me up Scotty. This planet sucks.
Hitler…blah blah blah…blood in the streets…blah blah blah…Fuhrer…blah blah blah… dictator…blah…blah…blah…British empire…blah blah blah…bold statements…blah blah blah.

MORE FUN
larouche has wonderful ideas. unfortunately the state is an immoral institution. the only true alternative is an anarchocapitalist society. these things are essentially empircally decided. you use “myth” too loosely.. the true myths are largely gods and governments.
How many apostles did Jesus appoint? 12!  The same number as Obama has named as a “Super Congress.”  REVOLT against this Super Congress.  RESTORE our Super Constitution.  VOTE for Ron Paul 2012.  WAKE UP!
douche larouche – if they’re alive it’s jive, if they’re dead – truth was said.
Holy shit. Arm yourselves people..We’re about to hit WW3.
Maybe we shouldn’t revolt against the government, however resisting these types usually leads to blood shed. We need to move towards our goal of removing them.  That can be done with either a revolution or constant demonstration.  They who have the money and the access to wealth and food and power.  Won’t give it up easily, we could actually need to revolt. Then enact the constitution for all that it is.  Force them to follow it.
I dont like Obama either, but this is stupid. Only HITLER was like Hitler. I dont see the comparison, sorry.
Neither did anyone else, see the danger, until it was too late to do anything about it  History shows us, that man learns nothing from history.  Those that forget the past, are condemned to repeat it.  Either of these ring a bell?
You said “SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? IT REALLY NEEDS TO STOP NOW ”
Go to LaRouchePACdotCom and join. we are doing something. Lyndon LaRouche has done what needs to be done. That is, LaRouche has built the movement that has the knowledge and structure to jail the traitors. When you join the LaRouche movement you will be doing what needs to be done. Go to LaRouchePACdotCOM and join
This LaRouche, and all of the rest of these American buffoons ensure the victory of those they supposedly are against because of their utter cowardice. They continue on labeling the Bernanke’s and Blankfein’s as ‘Nazis’ or calling Obama ‘Hitler’, regardless of how inaccurate and asinine it is.
Americans, you have nobody to blame for your predicament but yourselves. Your brains are kaput.

I remember living in Eastern Europe and seeing how everyone was afraid of everything by the look in their eyes, etc and now I am seeing the same thing in the eyes of people here in the states.
Lyndon LaRouche is evil because he is for freeing humanity! That’s what today society is saying when they do everything to support this system.

MORE FUN
I thank God for you Alex and Lyndon everyday–we are truly blessed to have at least a voice speaking up for us the American people. But I ‘am telling you. There are many of of us out here that will bring blood to the reality of this time. We will not let you just come in and take what we have earned with our own blood and sweat and tears. You Elites are over stepping your boundaries. If it takes to the last man you will die along with us. We are tired and coming to the end of our ropes.
If Obama is compared to Hitler, who is being metaphorically compared to the ANTICHRIST?
This is the best video I’ve ever seen… ever. It’s so inspireing. I wish I could be in the US, helping. When my education is done, it’s likely that I’m coming over. 🙂
If I was living living in the U.S.A I would start thinking about acts of terrorism on my government, not the people, the government only. That what I would do if this happen in my country.
I think everyone agrees that the U.S is about to have the biggest economic crisis ever seen in human history. The only think that we can do is to be prepared by buying gold and find a source to produce our own food. Whomever do these things are going to be among the i billion that will survive this chaos.
is there a corralation between aug 2 2011 and aug 2 1934??? i think so
I know a way out of this. Get on your knees and repent. No man alive can solve this problem, only God can.
Ron Paul Lyndon LaRouche presidential ticket. 2012
Like Lyndon thinks he’s superior to me…?
Lyndon larouche – is full of himself, and has done nothing to help anyone, all he does is talk, talk and talk and making a living with people thinking he’s somebody. Lyndon is a big zero. You hear that Larouche A BIG ZERO.
basically they can kill everyone on the planet then clone people using the DNA they have taken from a large population to be there slaves
again with LL the guy who obsessed over “we need an FDR approach to the economy” way back. (Yeah, FDR who said he wanted “a corporation clothed with the power of government” — which was TVA. ) Yet, b/c nobody followed LL he tried to jump in front of the tea party parade — oops, (he’s a Dem who first supported Barry) so change of plan: So now he is lecturing everyone on AJ’s show about the evils of corporate fascism and magically happens to be in front of the 911 train How ironic and shallow
These two agitators who try to destruct your attention from JEWISH control system blaming on British and others.  2 hogs – revolutionary Jewish agitators.
Lyndon LaRouche has his shit together. I want a America of Lyndon LaRouche’s. that is British Monarchs worst nightmare.
Lyndon Larouche – a LEADER !
While your at it you should send all AIDS victims to an isolated island
It is time that we buy guns and ammunition for our self & neighbors and extra guns for our neighbors that can not afford one and let the hell began before my great-grandchildren has to pay the cost I now have grandchildren I am 68 years old to the ruling class son of bitches we are coming for you all I hope it happens before I get old let me pay the price not my children and my grandchildren they don’t deserve this
Alex just slipped up again !  We are the builders ! Yeah he’s a Mason !  Still nothing about who is really controlling  Things !! Just more disinformation !

MORE FUN
this dude has some good points but i think he is a looney with an unanounced agenda?
Just one aspect of the agenda is getting back into space, BIG-TIME. Extensive exploration by man of the near earth solar system along with instrument based work out to at least the Ort clouds. Only as we can look at reality, the universe from many different perspectives, with every instrument at command, can we actually begin to understand how things work. We really don’t know, we’ve barely begun to do our work. Even this short term, 100 year, perspective means that we need fusion powered (and perhaps anti-matter powered) ships just to get to Mars safely.
He’s not looney. He knows so much it just boggles his mind sometimes.
The “Order” framed this guy , called it “conspiracy to commit mail fraud” and gave him 15 years ! Listen to what he has to say….. this old timer has nothing to lose or gain by lying. Thanks LL for putting your neck out for all of us.
LaRouche is a shill. He’s the pied piper. He whistles on about how he’s going to free everyone, but states solar and wind energy is “pure pollution” and, in the same breath, assert Nuclear Energy is clean.
LaRouche is the only politician I ever heard use the term “christian economics”, he is a brilliant statesman, and the world would be better with more brave patriots like him. He is a dedicated teacher with MORALS, something lacking in the demons who conrol our nation. Yes,when he became a threat THE BUSH DEMONS railroaded him.
Anyone realize that Laraouche (for all his correctness) has been screaming “The Sky is Falling” for a Loooooooooong time ? He loses a lot of credibility because of this
Mr LaRouche’s agenda is this: There a spiritual war being waged, one side believing man was born in the image of God and therefore devine, versus man is no more than cattle to be slaughtered at a whim. Which do you believe?
Mark your calanders. This is the number of the beast. The GANG of 6. + The Super Congress. 6+6…
666 was drawn on his victory night by his home state of Illinois. He does go by the code name “LAWLESS ONE” and the name of his limo is “THE BEAST”
and isnt it ironic that the bill gets passed on the exact anniversary of the day , august 2nd, that hitler became fuerer of germany. do you believe in coincidences????????
Lets tar, feather, and leave out in the desert to rot these Big G commies. They keep sticking the screw to us, no one does a thing! They must be laughing their asses off. These guys are living the High Life, no worries, they do what they please, life is a wonderful. Meanwhile, we sit here pizzed off and gettin’ nowhere.
IT ISN’T WORTH THE TIME TO TAR AND FEATHER THEM. BESIDES WE NEED THE TAR TO COVER UP AND REPAIR THE TRACKS THEY LEAVE BEHIND.
BESIDES WHO WANTS TO TAKE THE TIME TO SMELL THEIR ROTTEN A$$$$$$$
I will, coz I am going to bathe in their stench! Glory to God!
This guy LaRouche thinks that cannabis should stay illegal. But it’s okay cause he’s a really uptight old white guy so he must be right.
Wow… we’ve got ourselves a new Timecube it looks like.  (Important for me to note, this is not directly attributed to Larouche.)