The Dumb of the Dumb

March 4th, 2021

Can someone show me the polling data on this one? Granted, this is getting its biggest wave of attention in media right-wing, but that os because it is Democrats acting stupidly…
Though, half of Democrats oppose and all Republicans oppose, so this is dead on arrival regardless… Still there is a thing problematic in the selling.

Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., on Thursday said she was “shocked” that lowering the legal voting age to 16 is a “polarizing” subject of debate.

Dr. Kendi, I was shocked by how polarizing an issue this was, and listen, when I would tell people [the late Rep.] John Lewis is an original co-sponsor of this — you know, our young people deserve to have a stakeholder in our democracy,” Pressley, a member of the so-called “Squad” said in response to Kendi, who said lowering the voting age is an example of anti-racist policy.

And welcome to Hell.
Why do I suspect that this is on the most extreme edge, and a temuously based one at that, of this electoral reality.
If you look at the concrete questions, white liberals are to the left of Hispanic Democrats, but also of Black Democrats, on defunding the police and those ideological questions about the source of racial inequity.
And then
In a post for Slow Boring on how Democrats can win more elections, Matthew Yglesias offers some concrete suggestions for the party’s candidates:
Say you think it’s dumb that they are putting warning labels on old TV shows like the muppets. Just let people watch stuff.
Say you don’t think it’s fair to call people racist when they worry about crime or illegal immigration — these are things lots of folks worry about, and the government owes them solutions.
Especially if you are Vice President Kamala Harris, a former elected official from San Francisco, say that canceling Abraham Lincoln while keeping the city’s schools closed is the kind of dumb shit that makes people think Democrats can’t govern, and you’re mad about it.
I would add that Democratic candidates should fire any staffer who advised them to use the word “Latinx.” That this term, which only about 2 percent of Hispanics actually like and use, has rapidly taken hold in mainstream media, is a powerful example of how campus culture has quickly come to dominate elite institutions, contrary to the wishes of actual minorities.

Hm. Interesting to note on the immigration issue, two points of departure. Apparently the Washington Monthly is to the right of the New York Times — the Washington Monthly looking at the electoral reality and finding

The public has indeed become more sympathetic to immigrants and immigration, partially as a thermostatic reaction to the practices of the Trump administration. But that does not mean that Democrats can simply be the opposite of Trump on this issue. He was closed; we’re open! He was mean; we’re nice! Any moves toward greater leniency at the border and the creation of legalization regimes for undocumented immigrants raises the possibility of knock-on effects and unintended consequences that would be highly unpopular. How do you prevent people from gaming the system? How do you handle the possibility of surges at the border to take advantage of leniency and legalization regimes? Any immigration reform package worth its salt must have serious answers to these questions.
The New York Times gets us this editorial, probably straight news analysis, on Republican fortunes
It’s possible that Republicans who are not prioritizing economic issues are accurately reading their base. A survey last month by the GOP pollster Echelon Insights found that the top concerns of Republican voters were mainly cultural ones: illegal immigration, lack of support for the police, high taxes and “liberal bias in mainstream media.”
Ignoring, whether or not the effects are rightly analyzed by these Republicans irrelevant, that these “top concerns” — the first three at leadt — have strongly economic concerns tied to them.
But the question is… How will 16 and 17 year olds analyze them? Probably end up not voting, ala the olfer 18 to 20 somethings.

Historical captures

March 2nd, 2021

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Some advertisements found in comic books published in 1973. 1975.  Company is Archie.  From roughly the era of girl on hippy dog love affairs, so maybe that is a point of reference to comprehend some confusion.

The audience of whom, I can assure you,care chopping at the bit to buy that Playboy Bunny (knock off or not, can’t say)  patch.

Or… STP.  I wonder how many teenage listeners of the band Stone Temple Pilots in the 1990s played dumb to their parents asking “STP?  Message there?”. From the vantage point of 1970s kid friendly marketing — what is STP?  I do not know, but it is right next to a Budweiser decal.

Then at the right hand side you see that both the American AND Confederate flags can be yours. 

The shirt decals get curious with the ready to paste “Master” and “Slave”  message.  Then on the next row it’s ” Yu Turn E On”, which I guess can be subimated to bare infetence. The Comics Code approved all this smut?
(Fina image inspired by lsd drawn by Robert Crumb.)

In higher strata of changing mores and standards, today we receive word that a few Dr. Seuss books are no longer being published.  The biggest title of the lot, and thus most regrettable in terms of crises, the classic And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street.  I would suggest that now is the time to stock up before the classics get stomped in the memory hole, but then realize… After decades of constant publishing and at times short need — they are in no danger of disappearing from used book stores in any foreseeable future.  All with generation of children’s crayons additions. 

the big Daniel Burke / Jack Posobeic twitter splat

March 1st, 2021

Daniel Burke throwing it down, calling out famed Internet twitterer alt right adjacent guy I have never heard of Jack Posobeic … for claim of the Trump legacy… Or maybe fighting him on behalf of the integrity of the government of China… these them fighting words
Jack Posobiec wants you to think that Davos is a city in China.
Oh wow. How can Jack Posobeic tecover from this assault on … Boogeyman political reference points? Well…
Is he playing dumb, or does he really not understand the implication?
I don’t even know what this means
Wow. Daniel Burke could not in a million years have expected that response. Is it a zinger? Is it a slap? What exactly is it? Burke will have to work that out hisownself.
The rabble jump all over the place.
I heard Lyndon LaRouche is actually Q
Imagine thinking this is a sick burn or that it even makes sense. Whoops.
Imagine tweeting this thinking it was clever
It’s not a sick burn if you have to explain it bruh

Holy cow! Taking Burke’s side, if only by convenience: No way @JackPosobiec wants his audience to start thinking about anything at all, as his entire grift is reliant on his appeal to the unthinking.
I doubt he cares one whit about Larouche politics but tgey will take thwm where theycan.
If you truly believe this, you’re quite ignorant.
I’ve been following @JackPosobiec for over a year now and he never suggested such a thing. Furthermore, I know better than to think Davos is in China.
Lol, no. He has said multiple times it’s in Switzerland and it’s the place that hosts the World Economic Forum Face with rolling eyes
What it looks like When u are trying u best to discredit an actual journalist because he exposes the truth u & the rest of the MSM have been trying to cover for-for yrs. BC for some reason from ur est tower u all still think we believe or even care what u are pushing! #MAGA
Explain that?????
Wut
Huh? Don’t get this.
LaRouchers are still around?
And this idiot is spreading misleading rhetoric. Typical douche bag politician. Can’t stand on his own merits and beliefs but needs to perform character attacks. Tear someone else down to make themselves look better. Hey Danny boy (emphasis on BOY) it ain’t working.
Putting “double” agents to shame with all that agent-ing
Jack Posobiec is a very successful political real estate agent. He lives rent free in every loser’s head. Jack is MY kind of agent.

Posobiec tosses The classic “if they’te all at me, i must be doing something right” line.
Mueller tried to call me a Russian agent
LaRouchers call me an anti-China Soros agent
Far-right calls me a Mossad agent
CNN calls me a smear agent
Neocons call me a chaos agent
All for just having my own opinions

And one more note Lyndon Larouche supporters are probably the only people that accuse conservatives of supporting George Soros.

II. What is William Jones’s title?
Wait. Former???
William Jones is a Washington political analyst, former Executive Intelligence Review White House correspondent and a non-resident fellow of the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies.
Compare it to here meaning he was and now is again?
hm.

III. Events are moving fast in the big Larouchw Civil War.
LPAC asserts its founder.
And Maybe this is why Helga hates pacs.

Cometh LORG’s cease and desist issuance on LPAC. Thrown at lpac tweets promoting links that commit the crime of …emphasizes British evil over Chinese benevolence.
LORG partisans cheer. About time. Lyn talked about a Gideon’s army, and we’ve become it.
Wonderful! Let us now get on with realizing the great potential for all of mankind that Lyndon’s life was committed to fulfilling.

So this is the official logo of tge larouche organiztion now?
LPAC partisans jump in: The only question I have for Helga is “I hope you didn’t sell out for cheap Hunter Biden got a billion”…lol

The final caller of the lorg webcast comes in with the “The Percy Shelly /Larouche paradigm will guide us against the diabolical lpac machinations” line, with the Lorger bursting forth on just what will defeat lpac and uphold Percy Shelley Larouche: a 150 volume collected works of Lyndon Larouche to be placed next to the slimmer offerings of Shelly, as too — the building of the Larouche Landbridge visible from Mars, or … Let’s see lpac compete with that!

And this is all good and well, but what is to be done about other entities that use the “Larouche” moniker? (And to avoid all confusion, you have to move on them and also prominent motorcycle clubs.

IV. The most successful vote getting Larouche politician of the twenty-first century– winner of two Democratic party nominations for a Congressional House seat and pusher of a run-off election for Senate — Kesha Rogers — stands with lpac. Meaning she has been disowned by Helga Zepp. And subject to charges from Vrench LORG partisans. So, Kesha Roers with lpac emphasizes a nationalist quote from dear deceased leader whose over whose legacy is getting fought. Mr. Bak responds asking about China, and Ben D repeats a facetious “you must be new” with introductory material to read on the exciting world of lpac’s larouche.
Kesha Rogers. About LaRouchePAC True Patriots in the fight to save our republic. Reviving the #Americansystem #physicaleconomy #crushtheempire
“Al we Americans have immediately at hand is the sleeping nationalist heritage embedded in our bones over more than twenty generations, the heritage of the eighteenth-century, worldwide American…
Benjamin Bak
And the New Silk Road of China AND Lyndon LaRouche ?
Kesha Rogers
Yes, it’s apart of the American System.
Benjamin Bak
Ok. Why the LPAC site don’t say that explicitly in your link, or in the bioagraphy of LaRouche ? Because you know Trunp is anti-China paranoïd ?
Ben@larouchepac
It sounds like you’re new to the work of Lyndon LaRouche, glad to see you’re interested in learning more. Check out our introduction to Mr. LaRouche’s decades-long fight for a New Bretton Woods system, and how a New Bretton Woods is still key today,
Benjamin Back
Without Helga, without Schiller Institute. This is sound lije censorship for me. I am a larouchist for thirteen years. Don’t kidding me
Ben @ LaRouche PAC
LaRouchePAC has excellent material on Mr. LaRouche’s genius work on a New Bretton Woods system, how it would operate, and what changes need to be made to the present global system. Mr. LaRouche was ahead of his time, and his work is critical today! Check it out.
Benjamin Bak
That’s what you do to Lyn and Helga. Don’t act like you don’t understand what I’m telling you
Ben @ larouchepac
Mr. LaRouche produced extensive material with LaRouchePAC, check it out! We’ve got a lot of great material to work through if you’d like to learn more about Mr. LaRouche’s New Bretton Woods program.

The Soviet “history deletion” image proferred by Mr. Bak is interesting, as we see Hwlga and LORG taking the Totskyist line and Boyd and LPAC the Stalunist dervived line — “larouche in a single country”, where lorg appears to take on the Trotsky tact.
Back in the day, after Kesha Rogers pushed the Democratic establishment to a run-off primary for Texas Senate seat — Helga Zepp Larouche trumpeted this victory amongst the Larouchoes in Germany, spotlighting a sign “Erst Kesha, dann Kascha” ( First Kesha, then Kascha)”. And now Helga has cancelled Kesha. Kesha’s victory no longer belonging to Helga, who has to find her forerunner to capturing Kadcha elsewhete.
Noting a comparison of Kesha Rogers’s vote tallies to the tepid results Diane Sare and especially Daniel Burke garner –who stand with LORG, and we await to see… Will LPAC run a candidate against Chuck Schumer and Diane Sare? Diane Sare, already making tne rounds at..
Occupy 2021. — and we watched New York Senate candidate Diane Sare—a challenger to Chuck Schumer in 2022—megaphone her platform. It was psychedelic in its leaps from subject to subject—pro-Glass-Steagall Act, anti–solar panels on Long Island, the late Lyndon LaRouche, who was perhaps the human embodiment of horseshoe theory—but I appreciated her ambition. As an aside, I noticed, in addition to the local PIX11, another camera crew from NTD covering the scene, which is, like the Trump-favoring Epoch Times, affiliated with Falun Gong. Agendas were surely afoot, but it’ll come out in the wash later.

All right. Whichever faction gives the most satisfyimg answer to this riddle wins, ok?

V. Memories
and To be fair, the extent of my urban crime fighting in Seattle is telling a couple Lyndon LaRouche minions at a card table with brochures and a poster of Obama with a Hitler mustache, “Fuck you.”
andI remember when I was in college back in 2007 there was a table of people affiliated with that guy LaRouche and they had some pictures of Obama with the Hitler stache.
Is this a “omg. Lyndon Larouce was right!”? You think being harassed by a Lyndon Larouche supporter in a parking lot forty something years ago would have prepared me better for #TheseDays
and In 2005 I was too busy arguing with Lyndon LaRouche cult members on the MySpace Democrats board to know what was going on with Brittany Spears, but I am excited to finally watch the documentary and catch up on everything.
and. Ah yes. The Lyndon LaRouche people. They were always so annoying at Hobby airport. But they were so fringe – I didn’t think such bizarre cult beliefs could grab so many ordinary people.
I was wrong.
DC Represent! Like the LaRouche nuts on DC street corners trying to prove that square roots don’t exist.
From a twitter dialouge relating to Marvel storylines, and reasons for ret-conning for purpose of keeping ages right: Yeah but part of the story kinda required her and Pietro being very young when they did the Hydra / Ultron stuff, so you could feel a bit more forgiving, like that they were basically angry college-age kids who want to protest American Imperialism being exploited, y’know?
I knew lots of similar kids in Olympia who got roped in by LaRouche and Ramtha, you know?
And it continues, rhyming… Turns out it is a drawing (with glitter) of the world, + he explains to me that the world is held up by giant swords (very glittery) and that’s how they control us. Proceeds into a rant only comparable in incoherence to getting dragooned by the LaRouche folk who tried to make me invent math, +then yelled at me for secretly using Newtonian principles. Anyway, glitter map man went to the bathroom + I ran to the metro.
(I’m also the patreon commenter w/the sketchy friend giving me Kushiel’s Dart. Maybe I couldn’t tell if it was weird bc of shit like this?)
And There was a similar map in the Larouche magazine someone dropped at every dorm in college one time. I was disappointed to find out how nuts the rest of the articles were, because I would love to ride the length of that system
hey now I made the mistake of putting LaRouche into my Twitter search and came across a free flowing sewer of swivel eyed, tin foil hat wearing Trumpist bunkem. I should have known better really.
… In recent days, likely the lpacers. The lorgers would sell you on China. Though, before recent days they’ll bothsplit thedifference.
more organization-wise for comparison — falun gong and scientology. following that trail.
Thomas Pynchon, you hack!

VI. Historical notes
A looksee at a 1986 issue of The Advocate.

One enemy passed on.
In two reports in 1984 for “First Camera,” a short-lived NBC news magazine program, Ms. Lynch maintained that Mr. LaRouche was, as she recounted in a 1985 article in The Columbia Journalism Review, “the leader of a violence-prone, anti-Semitic cult that smeared its opponents and sued its critics.”
Former LaRouchians, as they were called, told her that their leader had talked about assassinating President Jimmy Carter. After Ms. Lynch’s reports were broadcast, LaRouche adherents picketed NBC, carrying signs that said, “Lynch Pat Lynch.” She received at least one death threat, and her parents’ Long Island neighborhood was littered with fliers saying that she was running a call-girl operation from their house.
Mr. LaRouche filed a defamation suit against NBC. When a federal jury rejected his claim, NBC countersued, accusing the group of engaging in dirty tricks and impersonating Ms. Lynch to sabotage her reporting.
The jury awarded the network $3 million in damages, an amount later reduced to $258,000.
just another note into wikipedia.

VII. Across the Spectrum.
At long last, a libertarian (or ex libertarian) with any experience of Larouche coming in labeled as a libertarian.
When I first got involved with the Libertarian Party in 2012, I found a strong undercurrent of conspiracy theorism,” Weinman told me by email. “While leadership was happy to ridicule this nonsense behind closed doors, they were unwilling to confront or address it. For decades, the LP had been willing to pander to fringe movements in order to expand their membership. This is why unscrupulous grifters like Lyndon LaRouche, paleocon loons like Pat Buchanan (and frankly Ron Paul), 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, and ultimately anti-Semites and bigots all took shelter under the libertarian label.”

“15 Minutes of Fascism” concerns itself with Larouche. An obituary at 12:30 which is years late and covers nothing much of interest from no terribly enlightening perspective, but worth noting.

A Word of warning to Leftwingers thrown out when Ray McGovern posts to his Larouche appearance.
Flanking left AND right. basically the same shit as libs had with trump, where he´d be agressive towards russia (canceling nuclear and space treaties from like the 60´s) and libs belive to this day the meme propagated by Lyndon LaRouche that he´s a russian puppet. Ironically commented to a clip from Tucker Carlson charging Biden and officials as being cozy with China.

VIII. Britain and Australia
British Royal jokings. And by way of Carey.
So I Married an Axe Murderer

Aussie citing.
vote tallies
Here’s one for you. Candidates who got fewer individual first-preference votes than JJR’s 34:
– Socialist Equality #2, 23 votes
– CEC #2, 19 votes
Everybody else cracked at least 40.
I always assume that any ungrouped candidate or a lower-order super-obscure micro candidate has at least 5 or 10 friends and family who go “oh yeah s/he’s a good egg” and chuck them a first pref. Beyond? I guess if it’s triple digits they might be a local pastor, councillor, etc.

One small part of a politician’s financial scandal.
One Nation has raised questions about the circumstances of Ms Holgate’s departure and the inquiry follows unsubstantiated social media speculation that she did not resign but was pushed out.
Campaigning by licensed post office operators has been fuelled by groups including the Australian Citizens Party, linked to fringe American political figure and conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche.

IX. Where are they now?
Some updating on Xandros CEO Andreas Typaldos.
David P Goldman wouldn’t fit into today’s LORG. Though he references Aristotle enough that it could become a maybe. And it reads to many as though.

Miniature anarchists

February 28th, 2021

I saw some banks that had only recently taken down the boardings put some new boards up. Arestaurant that had not been boarded put it up. And What appears to be a couple of smashed windows at a supermarket and Starbucks — profane shouty graffiti nearby — now has the thing up.
Near as I can sed by a nearby immigration center now boarded completely — this is the source of consternation — a symbol for, I suppose, Biden still having some remnants of the “kids in cages” facilities in slower state of bureacratic transition than desired and to a point notacceptable, and damned if the Starbucks doesn’t get a random brick.
A mini riot. Echo from a glory day of “resistance” of the Trump era.
Likewise, the last blm motorcade I witnessed — cars honking along, chants where they can throw them — kinda sad. Though, the weather is just warm now and we are only a week or two off from snow, so stay tuned.

The 37 vote getters

February 26th, 2021

Regretably, I see two seperate numbers. I guess the one that includes Nevada’s “nota” line and has more votes in the mix is more lukely to bethe correct tally, as ratified by the US Congress in January. Understand, the vote tally for Biden differs by 360 votes, and on down from there to all the runner-ups. I wikk possibly put up the other numbers.

1. Joe Biden/Kamala D. Harris (D) 51.3 81,268,564
2. Donald Trump/Mike Pence (R) 46.9 74,216,603
3. Jo Jorgensen/Spike Cohen (L) 1.2 1,864,720
4. Howie Hawkins/Angela Nicole Walker (G) 0.3 402,716
5. Roque De La Fuente (multiple running mates) (The Alliance Party) 0.1 88,214
6. Gloria La Riva (multiple running mates) (Party for Socialism and Liberation) 0.1 84,905
7. Kanye West/Michelle Tidball (Independent) 0.0 67,908
8. Don Blankenship/William Mohr (Constitution Party) 0.0 59,924 0
9. Brock Pierce/Karla Ballard (Independent) 0.0 49,695 0
10. Brian T. Carroll/Amar Patel (American Solidarity Party) 0.0 35,261 0
11. Alyson Kennedy/Malcolm Jarrett (Socialist Workers Party) 0.0 6,791
12. Bill Hammons/Eric Bodenstab (Unity Party) 0.0 6,647
13. Jade Simmons (multiple running mates) (Independent) 0.0 6,534
14. Jerry Segal/John de Graaf (Bread and Roses) 0.0 5,949
15. Dario David Hunter/Dawn Neptune Adams (Progressive Party) 0.0 5,394
16. Phil Collins/Billy Joe Parker (Prohibition Party) 0.0 4,844
17. Jesse Ventura/Cynthia McKinney (Green Party of Alaska) 0.0 3,284
18. President Boddie/Eric Stoneham (C.U.P.) 0.0 3,171
19. Joe McHugh/Elizabeth Storm (Independent) 0.0 2,843
20. Mark Charles/Adrian Wallace (Independent) 0.0 2,662
21. Sheila Tittle (multiple running mates) (Independent) 0.0 1,806
22. Connie Gammon/Phil Collins (Independent) 0.0 1,475
23. J.R. Myers/Tiara Lusk (Life and Liberty) 0.0 1,372
24. Tom Hoefling/Andy Prior (Independent) 0.0 1,241
25. H. Brooke Paige/Thomas Witman (Grumpy Old Patriots) 0.0 1,175
26. Christopher Lafontaine/Michael Speed (Independent) 0.0 856
27. Kyle Kenley Kopitke (multiple running mates) (Independent) 0.0 815
28. Ricki Sue King/Dayna Chandler (Genealogy Know Your Family History Party) 0.0 546
29. Princess Khadijah M. Pres Jacob-Fambro/Khadijah Maryam Jacob Sr. (Independent) 0.0 497
30. Blake Huber/Frank Atwood (Approval Voting Party) 0.0 409
31. Joseph Kishore/Norissa Santa Cruz (Socialist Equality Party) 0.0 317
32. Richard Duncan/Mitch Bupp (Independent) 0.0 213
33. Jordan Marc Scott/Jennifer Tepool (Independent) 0.0 175
34. Gary Swing/David Olszta (Boiling Frog) 0.0 141
35. Keith McCormic/Sam Blasiak (Bull Moose) 0.0 126
36. Zachary Scalf/Matthew Lyda (Independent) 0.0 29
37. Valerie Mccray 0.0 17
Other write-in votes 0.1 182,482

Intetesting to note Valerie Mcvray coming in last — where in the immediate aftermath of election night there was a profile from Reason magazine on who they thought had come in last — Zachary Scalf.
We see a drop off of Constitution Party’s fortunes. I am guessing previous candidates — Howard Philips and Cuck Baldwin — had larger profiles and histories in right wing politics than our current entrant, with perhaps Trump’s hardline stance on immigration and rhetorical appeals to Christian conservatives dampens the election prospects — or perhaps the party simply lost some big state ballot line. Oddly, the Party for Socialism and Liberation gains — socoalism big with the kids thesedays, I suppose — if it is intersectional and woke enough. Roque de la Fuente appears to have gained by name recognition — running every election cycle — now a party unto himself beating the Constitution Party.

Finally, I see how many votes Jesse Ventura received

February 24th, 2021

The story of Jesse Ventura’s 2020 Presidential run … he snuck onto the ballot by a rogue Alaska Green Party which, I guess, now lacks accredidation and is no more (or is something other than a Green Party)– The Green Party in Alaska having to set up once again anew and bolt out any of these Ventura-heads.

Forthe past few months I had not the vote tally for Ventua, since I had, because Alaska comes in last, so this one vote tallyer was not including him. But now I see the tally is 3,284. I guess this may ormay not include California write-ins. (That site designates allwrite-ins into one group). Good for 17th place, right behind the Prohibition Party. (18th if you include Nevada’s ba!lot line of “None of the Above”.) No word on whether Cynthia Mckinney was a boon or a drag to the voting total.
I did see a “Ventura 2020” sign floated admist massed blm plastering– I don’t believe in support of his Green Party nimination fight but … just tosiing it out there for that segment of voters for both defunding the police and against mask tyranny.

So, about damnedable “el rushbo”

February 20th, 2021

In the great litany of items tossed out by a Rush Limbaugh — filler of three or (when he had a tv show) three and a half hours every weekday — or specifically cirated by him… He apologized and offered as his greatest regret a regular bit ran for two weeks mocking recent AIDS deaths — hard to say if that mitigates anything given it came out of him in the first place — and the bit about claimimg “did ypu know thete was a White House dog?” cue photo of a gawky young Chelsea Clinton… Did not happen — which at least obviates that one.

Beyond that his statement on Donavann McNabb — overrated and overrated because the league was in need of a:top flight black quarterback — strikes me as inaccurate but defendable. McNabb always seemingly the fifth best qb in the league for the decade he played — behind Brady and Manning and two others that varied with the year — with it seems as I look him up on google Eagles fans souring on him in retrospect(a love/hate relationship regardless) and a most recent controversy regarding him getting drunk before playing in his one Super Bowl.

Behold some piece of theInsane. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said Friday that he will order flags to be flown at half-staff in honor of conservative talk radio icon Rush Limbaugh, who died this week at the age of 70 after being diagnosed with stage-four lung cancer last year.
“I know they’re still figuring out arrangements. But what we do when there’s things of this magnitude, once the date of internment for Rush is announced, we’re going to be lowering the flags to half-staff,” the Republican governor said.

Nothing much in regards to the politics of the man, but… Why and what is the purpse? Certainly not a unifying message for the state. Largely a case of flag lowering inflation. To the younger people — about their 20s– we may need to explain who the hell Limbaugh was amd why he mattered somehow anyways.
So far as I can tell, this may be the last nibblet of Limbaugh “controversy” that plucked into my mindspace.

In one particularly odious example of fueling divisive racial paranoia, Limbaugh told his audience, “It’s Obama’s America, is it not? Obama’s America, white kids getting beat up on school buses now. You put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety but in Obama’s America the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, ‘Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on,’ and, of course, everybody says the white kid deserved it, he was born a racist, he’s white.”

In as much as I can suggest 1996 as the Year of High Republicanism and Limbaugh right in there with Gingrich —
this 2009 monolouge and the story it blasted off from — a local school bus fight berween schoolkids — owes more to Drudge in getting broadcast to the multitudes. From there Limbaugh is one of a multitide, and replacable — bunches of Fox News hosts and Limbaugh clones on the am dial more than capable of fanning racial flames into the air without Limbaugh as any conduit.

So… whateth did he do, in the end?
in the end, even if I came not to think very highly of Rush, he did have the Clintons’ number from day one. He saw them for the liars, opportunists, and political grifters that they were, a couple who held no core beliefs, only positions that could change as needed to amass more power. No matter what else he was, said, or did, no matter his innumerable human failings, he was right about Bill and Hillary.
All of which slashes against his stated charge at the start of the Clinton Years that we are witmesding “the most concentrated push to left liberalism” im American History. And besides which…
although Limbaugh never influenced policy as much as he influenced the tone of right-wing political culture. He followed and endorsed the policy trends from Gingrich to Dubya to Trump (and those were three very different political leaders) rather than setting them.
Indeed, a curious matter of how his obitiary is written as harbinger of Trump…
Regarding my thoughts on the kingmaker question, everyone’s going to write about how politics might have been different if Limbaugh hadn’t been such an influential figure. But I’m wondering how we would see his legacy differently if say, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz had been elected president in 2016.
Or, I could suggest, if Mitt Romney had won in 2012. I guess he would be there standing in opposition to any liberalizing immigration (see Bush administration) but otherwise he is just cheerleading the Republican administration, whatever the posture is on (say for instance) Trade.
Always ready to admit it
2006, after Republicans lost the House in midterm elections, Limbaugh admitted that he’d long been “carrying water” for GOP elected officials even though he didn’t believe they deserved it. Over time, as the talk-radio style of culture-war point scoring over a substantive agenda, and loyalty over intellectual honesty, became more common among GOP politicos as well as right-leaning entertainers, the coalition got less and less conservative, culminating in the GOP’s takeover by populists who openly championed tariffs and etc.

To the point:
but I have had a deep personal animus to this man. Rush Limbaugh made my father angrier than he needed to be in his old age.
Oh, I suspect if the poster of this thought Limbaugh haf said anything worthwhile, thwy’d offer more allowance for this “rabble rousing” aspect, but I.gather this is a personal experience that abounds … For ” the legacy”.

Untelated in commentsville:
It is a little known fact that in 1932 the Republicans won a majority in the House and Senate but between the election and the inauguration of Roosevelt, enough of them had died from various causes that their replacement by Democrat governors gave Roosevelt the majority he needed.
For some reason, the claiming on this inaccurate statement grates me. It is the 1930 midterm that saw the Republicans crater to a bare Charles Curtis (first poc vice president) tie breaking Senate majority and losing the House after post election day special election.

Consideration of who voted Trumply

February 17th, 2021

Supposed “profiles in Courage”, he tosses Manchin into the mix — either to match the number in Kennedy’s book, or because Manchin voted out on a limb beyond a Republican or two and tge other two Democratic Senators from states that voted for Trump. (Or maybe Jon Tester of Montana and Sherrod Brown of Ohio have established brands suggesting more opposition to Trump — note they voted against Kavanaugh’s confirmation.)

Richard Burr of North Carolina, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.

And the man who gets the biggest guff from Trump — Mitch Mcconnell — didn’t even vote to convict.

Sure, though this is how wr get stuck in peoples supporting the whole gamut of paryisanship from their one issue.

I think it helps to remember that people have all sorts of different barometers on politics and reasons for thinking the way they do. A year or three ago at an outta-town convention, I met a man who felt that Abortion was not only the Number One Issue but the only one. A POTUS who destroyed everything else in this country could have this guy’s support if he also stopped Abortion. And I have an acquaintance who thinks the Number One issue is and always will be the price of gasoline. If gas prices go down, whoever’s in the White House at that moment is a great President. End of discussion.

If you vote based on opposing Abortion, with the exveption of Louisiana’s Democratic governor, you are pretty well obliged to vote Republican. Maybe you can weigj whether Manchin will weaken the Democratic solid front in a way that the NRA once endorsed Harry Reid because if he were gone, Schumer would be the leader of their opposing party.

Political faultlines defined in loaded language.
Beyond defending Trump himself, state and local Republicans are perhaps the party’s biggest advocates of the kind of white-identity politics that is sometimes referred to as Trumpism. For example, GOP officials at the state level are now trying to bar schools from using materials from the New York Times’s 1619 Project, which focuses on the central role of slavery in American history. Such bans would effectively use government power to censor part of the public discourse and silence a project hated by many conservatives because of its critical look at Trump-style white-identity politics.
So, opposition or criticism on the merits of loading history curriculum on The 1619 Project is White Supremacy. Notwithstanding that the prpblem comes in viewing slavery as THE central role, bar anything else (The Enlightment, say…) , in the founding of the nation, and it leads to a dead certainty of San Francisco school board that we musy eliminate every name from schools, as too dead certainty on smashing any historical statue in sight.
Curious to note, Bush in 2000 and Trump last time out shattered any monolithic Latino vote, overall good in considering definitions of voting blocs… and if it forces a so!ewhat diffetent analysis of What the What is going on in the body electorate.