The “Justice for Jeremiah” Berlin Conference is being posted

I should have posted this a bit earlier than now, but there it is.  It is the steadily increasing uploads of the “Justice for Jeremiah” conference in Berlin — also now posted to the “Larouche Corner” section of the sidebar.  I have watched the first four installments, and am not going to force myself to state a novel insight.  On a less than serious note, I will say that judging by the seating arrangement, it would appear the individual who posted on his blog about this conference — go down to the next posting or two in this category to see the link — was seating off on the side, as the state of Chip Berlet’s pants is obscured by the sign over the table.  I don’t see how I could possibly have taken note of that even if I really really really was inclined to do so — it appears to be a “that blogger” problem.  As though that wasn’t obvious.

One place to pursue some items of controversy is not the wikipedia article on Jeremiah Duggan, but the archives for the talk function for the article.  Further, the arbitration for the Banishment of a misusing Larouche supporter with a Jewish Simpsons reference as a handle. Worthy of an aside, I once watched someone with a Jewish name as a handle post on an Internet forum that I frequent a Denial of the Holocaust — that is some odd common tactic in neo-nazi and anti-semitic culture — adopt a Jewish handle.   Not that Herschel Krustofsky is a neo-nazi; he’s just mindful of the anti-semitic charge that comes at Larouche, or more probably just making an obscure Simpsons reference.  But if there is a “Herschel Krustofsky” the writers of the Simpsons used as inspiration, please clue me in..

An odd little item that springs out at me from there, witness this:

The LaRouche user accounts have caused so much dissent that there are now numerous breakaway articles about LaRouche and his groups, when in reality his movement does not warrant this much space. The LaRouche talk pages amount to over 185,000 words: see Template:LaRouche Talk. There are omissions of fact and omission of mainstream opinion which render the articles misleading. The Schiller Institute page, for example, stresses the cultural activities of the organization, whereas in reality, it is regarded as a far-right political cult, whose members have complained of brain-washing techniques, but little of this is mentioned.

I am not sure the unbalanced nature of this topic, as per words, is a problem.  The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, of the radio and book franchise of the same name, as near a fictional precursor to to wikipedia, has “Earth” down to “Mostly Harmless”, though obviously not those two words (er… Jeremiah Duggan, Kenneth Kronberg — heck!  Dennis King has — for whatever reason — popped the “International Death Squad Support” to the top of his list at his website).  In the grand scope of things, if you were to pare “Lyndon Larouche” down to his impact on human culture, it would be about the same length — compare the number of words to all those connected to “Albert Einstein”, for instance. The disparity compared to disparity of worth will almost certainly be unbalanced, but I don’t see how that would be a problem.  Put up that disclaimer, wikipedia.  As silly as it is to have an item on every stupid sub-variation of the cult (“Schiller Institute”), they at least don’t post — as per the request from Larouchies — every appearance he makes on Russian television.

I might also note the ratings comparison of the Obama infomercial with the Larouche infomercials.  The news media have been reporting the Nielson ratings for Obama — roughly half the ratings for the second presidential “debate”. The immediate comparison they can come up with by way of rough comparison with that format is Ross Perot’s chart-heavy infomercials for his two presidential campaigns, and sure — the ratings are better for Obama.  It is up to blogs such as, to pick one out at random in a search, this one to sarcastically reference Larouche’s infomercials. But they fail to note the ratings, largely forgotten to history.  I once saw the Nielson ratings for various weeks where Larouche bought a half hour of time.  (Two years ago, when I read seemingly every mainstream mention of Larouche of the past four decades, which sort of had me on this topic 18 months ago, and you remember what happened then.)  Basically they were dead last in the ratings, with about half the viewership of the second to last rated-show (and in the days of upstart Fox having about 100 affiliates on a lot of lower-powered UHF channels and only nudging into the not as big cable market, dominating that final tier of ratings listings– well, that particular ratings list was amusing).  I was trying to find those ratings yesterday, but I was not able to within the time that would make that hunt worth it, so you will have to take my word and faded memory for it.

One Response to “The “Justice for Jeremiah” Berlin Conference is being posted”

  1. Justin Says:

    Actually, I left out the one comment I did have here, which is that the what jumped out at me as important was Molly Kronberg stating that the German Org and the American org are, indeed, one and the same, as are all the various facets of this group.

    New article in the Daily Mail. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082424/Cult-death-students-family-court-fight-new-inquest.html
    On the factnet board, xlcer points to the last sentence, “The LaRouche organisation says Mrs Duggan’s campaign is inspired by US Vice-President Dick Cheney in order to discredit them.”, which I think I have stated is the most damning sentence in the wikipedia article. At this point in time, I might say as Cheney exits the political stage, Mr. Larouche would be well advised to change his controller agent. If that’s what he’s interested in doing.

    I was going to go back to write a post on re-reading the Washington Monthly article one year later, and stating some new impressions. I’ve always suspected — mostly from Dennis King dropping something midstream — that he was going to look into financial issues, but couldn’t quite get into it too deeply, so wound his way to that article. Which I can say would be entirely understandable, and I state this is just a supposition.

    But the one thing I’ve had to wonder about is his, and the magazine, calling this “the end of this organization.” How? For many practical purposes, this org has been dead all this time, and its existence is based on a sense of unreality which is easily maintained.
    That last sentence could be a litmus test for the sanity and well being of any LYM or LYMette or Leesburg deadender. Just about all of us left when our sanity was being questioned by the cult insisting that we stole no money and telling our lenders to go ask Henry Kissinger for their money back.

    Lyn and the cult have done this all before and as described by I think BorisMaglev, Lyn releases ink like a squid when cornered.

    That line about Cheney is not for the public, but for the members.

    Oh. One more thing. Larouchepac has put on the web the topic of Obama’s assassination. Not too surprising or even noteworthy in and of itself — “all assassinations have been plotted by the British Empire”, I suppose — but we’ve already read it in his private “I don’t care that this is going to end up public on the web” conversation.

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