when two brands of occam’s razor cut into each other

Reading a recent incredibly random commentary regarding the left wing polemicist / historian Howard Zinn, the conservative couldn’t help but place in a link to a magazine expose that the man was once a card carrying Communist.
Attempting to figure out the answer to some questions — and would it be surprising if he were at that point in time?– it’s hard to figure it mattering: the general “American Exceptionalism” (if a mirror image of what one generally thinks when they hear the phrase) tome of his big work can be pilloried or praised or half-of-each or quarter of some and three quarter of the other by itself.  But there is a thorough-line you have to work with, at least.

IF Stone gets blasted a bit more.  To say, Agent.  Implications and inferences are that he was a Soviet agent, coming as he did out of the Popular Front — that he emerged from a naive notion in the 1950s writing that the Soviet leadership are “not good people” doesn’t .   Apparently written in released Soviet documents is he was code named “Pancake”, and dined a time or two with some figure or other.  Retorting: yah, so did Walter Lippman.  Retort number two: better to suggest, we have a better candidate to suggest.  (See the wikipedia sub-artcile)  Suppositions move on that it really wouldn’t matter one way or the other — he would go on to publish some articles rejected by the New York Times from Herbert Matthews as “Censored work”,  after that time the New York Times decided he was just promulgating Fidel Castro’s propaganda.  That becomes what you have to put your hat on…

And surely it’s a conspiracy theory and a slide into a kind of Red Scare to now charge Trump as somehow or other… beholden
It’s a mistake to indulge in grand conspiracy theorizing—Manchurian candidates! The Americans! Urinating sex workers!—to explain the president’s actions when mundane incompetence and egomania fit just as nicely.

Egomania, perhaps.  And we got your “Thank you note” works well enough.  Business transactions, surely more interesting than “pee tape”s– at this point, no one would much care anyway.  But what this is not is Kennedy …

So it is…  And I don’t know why the last word in this New Yorker quotation from Nina Khrushcheva was crossed out

President Trump:   We have also seen the benefits of cooperation. In the last century, our nations fought alongside one another in the Second World War.  Even during the tensions of the Cold War, when the world looked much different than it does today, the United States and Russia were able to maintain a strong dialogue.
But our relationship has never been worse than it is now.
However, that changed, as of about four hours ago.

There’s two places to go with this one.  One: I need to see more bomb shelters being built to agree with the “relationship has never been worse” comment.  But then again, two:  apparently I won’t, as of four hours ago when Putin met Trump.

Putin:  I’d like to add something to this. After all, I was an intelligence officer myself and I do know how dossiers are made up. Just a second. That’s the first thing. Now the second thing.
I believe that Russia is a democratic state and I hope you’re not denying this right to your own country. You’re not denying that United States is a democracy. Do you believe the United States is a democracy?

(Tap tap tap.)
Yes.  He knows from intelligence dossiers.
[tap tap tap]
People’s Democratic Republic of…

Putin:  […]George Soros[…]

Had to sneak that one in there, huh.

Do you think that we tried to collect compromising material on each and every single one of them? Well, it’s difficult to imagine an utter nonsense of a bigger scale than this.
Well, please just disregard these issues and don’t think about this anymore again.

… Got that?  Do not think about it anymore… never again consider… pee tapes… or conjure up… pee tapes….

Trump:  I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today and what he did is an incredible offer.


He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. I think that’s an incredible offer. Ok? Thank you.


Partisan Commenting abounds.  We need to do the old “What about that guy?”  Obama once promised Medvedev on a hot mic “flexibility” after the election.  How the hawkish denunciations meets up against what we have right now, I do not know.

Har de har har.
Did you forget the FDR-Hirohito summit of 1942, when Hirohito’s insistence that Japan was not involved in Pearl Harbor convinced FDR this was just another example of “fake news,” and led to his denunciation of US intelligence, law enforcement, and the media?
When Washington sent Lafayette home because “we can get along with the British.” When Lincoln told Jeff Davis that revolting to protect slavery made sense. Or the time JFK said, “we can trust Khrushchev with missiles in Cuba. Its the last guy’s fault they are there anyway.”
“Mr. Gorbachev, what an amazing beautiful wall you have here!”
Oooh, good ones. How about that time LBJ said “I shall not seek and I will not accept the nomination of my party as your President, because I really want to hang out in Hanoi a little bit more and share some tactical secrets with Vo Nguyen Giap.”
Imean, Kennedy did have that one day during the CMC when he kept saying it could have just been some lone Romanian (possibly Guccifer 1.0) who moved missiles to Cuba, but I assume that was a few too many back pills talking.
What about that time Calvin Coolidge took Ecstasy at a roaring 20s rager?

Oh.  And by the way… the positive optimistic spin on things… a necessary fire leading to rebirth… sorry.

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