Me:  Looking over Dennis King’s website, the left side of which is bulging ever fuller these days — as we have that lawnchair out watching the supposed destruction of Larouche’s Empire, there are plenty of items on the dreadful life inside the cult. But I think I spot a hole — successful accomplishments after life inside the cult. Thus, a crucial part of the message is missed — and in a round-about Larouche is aided in attacking his “enemies” from this omission. Or so it dawns on me.

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The basic problems with this idea struck me shortly after posting it, with some assistance from tuer07 in pushing it with:

Imagine the fun LaRouche will have destroying each of those hundreds of people in order to convince his "captive" audience, his followers, that there is no life with out him ......

Every single time an ex-member has had the courage to put his/her name to an expose of LaRouche, LaRouche and company attacks that ex-member with the same sort of nasty, slimy invective that spewed from the young girl in the Exorcist. LaRouche and company did that to Ken Kronberg, and he was a loyal follower.

LaRouche is no "philosopher king." His attacks on his "enemies," i.e., truth-telling ex-members, or members that have fallen out of favor, is always "ad hominem."

in short order.  Leaving aside the matter that people would just as soon leave this part of their life behind them, leaving aside that they might just as soon not open it up as a can of worms for their human relations, and even leaving aside the immediate intimidation that comes from naming names like that.  A successful life might often just simply falls short of the Fantasy that Larouche is selling in "World Historical Beings" and even on to "Species differentation".  You live, you love, you make mistakes, you have triumphs, you leave your mark in your community.  Without manning cardtable units for the benefit of glorifying an egomaniac for 30 years.  

What is interesting is that, theoretically, one could pursue federal campaign donations and ferret out individuals and line them up to careers and successes.  This strikes me as a hole in our elections process -- roughly on par with the idea that Lyndon Larouche can receive federal funds for his various presidential bids.

But, nonetheless, in this not-at-all simple topic and not-at-all easy solution, I do think something should be said on this -- to level out the well heeled and well traveled explications on the horrors of living in the cult -- the "Wasted Lives" conundrum -- one need not keep wasting their lives if and when they come to the conclusion that they are doing such a thing.

So here is xcler from the FACTNet board, running down a list:

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For the people whom have left the org I know many over the years. I do not wish to name anyone unless they wish to. What makes the story of Nick Benton important is that he was a regional leader and an NC who knows a lot of what went on over the years. I suspect that he is like many who know that the problem is not that Lyn has influence or power over the globe, but has influence and power of you folks in Leesburg and the regions who tune into this site and read it more than you bother reading the present photocopied handouts .

Among the people who have left include:

-Several lawyers. A few do important work with a very large trade union. A few have written books with very high ranking officlas in Gov which have directly changed certian laws in the USA. The US Supreme Court has had some arguments done by our alumni.

These are real lawyers with real degrees and practices, not Leesburg paralegals. This is hilarious as in a 1/4 CENTURY members whom the legal staff knew in the LC have went to law school, graduated, passed the bar and have thriving practises. I have a few funny as hell legal comments from Judges/clerks of the court who have dealt with the Leesburg legal geniuses on a few occasions. After I clear the backlog of material I will post them. The scale of this is pretty depressing when you think of how a person in Leesburg spends a 1/4 century handling the lawsuits papers filed for non payment ,pretends they never existed and then see his or her former LC members become real lawyers instead of graduates from the Ed Spannaus.

A few in the televison and movie industry. We have a writer of certain TV shows and an award winning producer.

-A few accountants with advanced degrees who either employ many people or are with major firms .

-A few bankers who actually direct investments around the globe for very large banks.

-A few economists with PHDs. One has a book out on historical matters. Another runs a DC think tank and has written legislation for the House and Senate. Another is a PHD who has published a few books and is a highly respected professor.

-Several people are involved in finance and running investment firms or doing research. This is quite interesting in that many mutual funds and other investment firms use research done by these people to generate new wealth for shareholders. These are highly educated people who have studied history with experts instead of cowriting a semi comatose Larouchefied Chaitkin/Andromidas lunacy about Al Gore's Nazi Gardens.

-There is a former NC who is the head of a big firm which develops and markets pharmacueticals.

-Another NC holds patents in computer technology. Many former members entered the computer filed and found that unlike Lyn, the real world economy has grown and their skills are in high demand.


-Several people are professional educators. Many have entered special education and have helped thousands of students with special needs achieve remarkable lives.

Take note Leesburg, these are not P/T teachers who substitute but highly degreed individuals who right now are starting to retire with pretty good pensions and benefits from their respective school systems. Their students call in to give thanks unlike some of the Leesburg students who call the principal to complain about the crazy sub who has gone batty writing about economic collapse for THREE DECADES. These are masters and PHD level professionals.

-Some of the educators have won awards for their work and have gone on to become scholars, sent overseas by the US for their quality work. Many of the educators teach at schools with very high standards of advanced classes. One has a book on Milton published as part of the PHD program.

-Quite a few are in health care in many different fields.

-Many are professional writers and editors who have exceptional skills in language arts and are in high demand for their talents. Others are writers who have established their own newsletters in various fileds. We have people who have published books on historical periods and have done research to effectively ghost write other books.

-We have a person who runs a company which is a recognised leader in solar technology . The company has provided employment for former members who have left. It is quite hilarious to think that in a major US city, a car full of yutes is driving past numerous buildings which are using this person's solar roofing to power the building and sell excess power to the grid. As the yute drive past the buildings they can regurgitate the latest Lyn rants about how solar power will kill dark skinned people and thus is fascist.

There are countless other stories Howie of post LC success. There are several very depressing stories about breakdowns and disasters which will wait for a better time to be discussed. In one way Howie I write this stuff for the benefit of the last remaing holdouts in Leesburg who are scared of leaving. I also wish that the yutes will consider that many people have made real decisons to be invovled in the real world and have changed things for the better. They worked for themsleves and have done a lot of fascinating things which amount to real work. No matter what people do, just enjoying your freedom and the life of not having big brother Lyn directing your economic collapse and desolation is worth leaving. People find what they want to do and persue it as best they can. Zubrin wanted to invent a real plan to get to Mars. Each month you can find his work on TV or in many magazines. The LYM can't even get to a deployment without the Larouchemobile unable to escape the orbit of a few city blocks. Passing out a few hundred cheap , soiled photo copied flyers at a Metro station do not get you to Mars.