{"id":9453,"date":"2012-01-31T18:34:04","date_gmt":"2012-02-01T01:34:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=9453"},"modified":"2012-02-01T10:15:10","modified_gmt":"2012-02-01T17:15:10","slug":"attempting-to-occupy-occupy-harlem-and-deciding-not-to-go-onto-unfriendly-media","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2012\/01\/31\/attempting-to-occupy-occupy-harlem-and-deciding-not-to-go-onto-unfriendly-media\/","title":{"rendered":"Newt Gingrich floats moon colonies, unlike Larouche&#8217;s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing the theme of third party relays of Larouche, while the Libertarian Party of Harris County doesn&#8217;t much have use for him but will humor them for a few minutes, the gate&#8217;s wide open with the Constitution of California&#8221;,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ballot-access.org\/2012\/01\/27\/lyndon-larouche-organization-continues-running-candidates-in-democratic-primaries\/\"> as we see here<\/a> by chair\u00c2\u00a0<strong>Don J. Grundmann<\/strong> (as well the &#8220;REAL Independent Party &#8212; for charges against what he considers the &#8220;fake&#8221; Independent Party <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ballot-access.org\/2012\/01\/13\/american-independent-party-of-california-submits-list-of-proposed-presidential-primary-candidate-names-to-secretary-of-state\/#comment-888045\">go here<\/a>):<\/p>\n<p><em>Mr. Lyndon LaRouche is an honorable American patriot whom I greatly admire because of \u00e2\u20ac\u201c 1) He was falsely accused of a crime by the government and sent to prison in an attempt to silence his beliefs. In regard to his conviction he is in fact an innocent man as the government committed a great crime aginst him and his followers. 2) He is hated by the political establishment because he proclaims the singular value of human beings; i.e.; he fights the anti-humanity Darwinian religious view that there are \u00e2\u20ac\u009d too many people \u00e2\u20ac\u009d which is the basis of abortion and \u00e2\u20ac\u009d family planning \u00e2\u20ac\u009d attacks against humanity, especially non-whites, around the world. 3) He believes in and advocates technological development and advancement in order to bring prosperity to all of humanity. Since the political establishment is anti-humanity they hate him for these beliefs. 4) He is not a \u00e2\u20ac\u009d cult leader \u00e2\u20ac\u009d nor are his followers members of a \u00e2\u20ac\u009d cult.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d This is simply yet another attack upon him by the anti-people political establishment.<br \/>\nWhile I have my disagreements with him I find Mr. LaRouche to be a brave and honorable American patriot who deserves great credit for continuing to fight for his beliefs despite the great crimes committed against him by our government. His actual policy perspectives; not those claimed against him by those working to smear him and lie about him; should be seriously considered by all citizens.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Thank you, leader of the Constitution Party of California.<\/p>\n<p><strong>STORY NUMBER ONE:\u00c2\u00a0 CAMPAIGN UPDATES<\/strong>\u00c2\u00a0 So, apparently Kesha Rogers is not on the ballot.\u00c2\u00a0 But that&#8217;s not stopping the movement from lumping her onto a &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/thirdpartypolitics.us\/blog\/2012\/01\/27\/lyndon-larouche-organization-continues-running-candidates-in-democratic-primaries\/\">slate<\/a>&#8220;list.\u00c2\u00a0It&#8217;s the way of the cult, I suppose.\u00c2\u00a0 Under this rubric, they may well just run for every elected position with every one of those 300 members I keep hearing they have.<br \/>\nSans Rogers, the candidate &#8220;Most likely to win the nomination&#8221; is, I guess, \u00c2\u00a0if you take the examination by the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/independent-in-newark\/one-leaves-one-joins-and-one-isn-t-sure-the-democratic-shuffle-cd-5\"> Examiner<\/a> as any indication of an unsettled Democratic field with a lack of a cohesive party organization, but then again the Examiner is making fun of their Democratic opposition.<br \/>\nDiane Sare.\u00c2\u00a0 I never posted that the &#8220;Larouchie of the Year 2011&#8221; list, but it went Alex Jones, Perry Clark, Diane Sare, Harley Schlanger, and Sky Shields.\u00c2\u00a0 Sare has thumped Kesha Rogers for what looks like a &#8220;LYM Candidate&#8221; slot.<\/p>\n<p>She&#8217;s making her way.<a href=\"http:\/\/letyourvoicebeheardradio.blogspot.com\/2012\/01\/let-your-voice-be-heard-this-sunday.html\">\u00c2\u00a0 Dustin&#8217;s interview with\u00c2\u00a0 Congressional Candidate Diane Sare of the LaRouche Movement, an ultra-left wing political group which critics say is racist, anti-semitic &amp; extreme<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Good media copy, I suppose.<\/p>\n<p>And Diane Sare has made her mark.\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/columbus.knowwhatshot.com\/blog\/?p=5319\">Chris Cristie: &#8220;Just another day in New Jersey.&#8221;<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 <em><br \/>\nSare was among a group of LaRouche supporters who was escorted out of Governor Christie&#8217;s Town Hall meeting in Fair Lawn last year for breaking out in song during the event.<br \/>\nShe wrote the lyrics, which included &#8220;Obama and Christie are both insane,&#8221; and set to the music of Beethoven.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Other campaigns:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ballot-access.org\/2012\/01\/16\/more-citations-found-that-support-rick-perrys-argument-against-laches\/\">Rick Perry hopes for the Lyndon Larouche precedent<\/a> in ballot access.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thedailynewsonline.com\/opinion\/editorials\/article_5f42ba68-3839-11e1-9aa3-0019bb2963f4.html\">Mitt Romney will drop out of the race for the Republican nomination, despite leading in all the polls. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I changed my mind and decided I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m actually a Democrat,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he will say. His decision will leave the field wide open, with Ross Perot, John McCain, Ralph Nader, Lyndon LaRouche and Eugene V. Debs all \u00e2\u20ac\u0153throwing their hats into the ring.<\/a>\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Howie G has this to say about possible appearance somewhere.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.harlemface.com\/2012\/01\/larouche-meetings-again-in-new-york.html\">Today is the LaRouche meeting in downtown Manhattan, and I am even supposed to pick up Albert P. I don&#8217;t care, it&#8217;s nice to get out of the house. I think that someone is giving a presentation on Shakespeare<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>STORY NUMBER TWO:\u00c2\u00a0 Newt Gingrich Campaign implodes off of Moon Colonies<\/strong><br \/>\nConsiderthe huallabo Newt Gingrich is getting for statements about space exploration.\u00c2\u00a0 One of them being that &#8220;by the end of the second term&#8221; of a Gingrich administration we will have moon colonies.\u00c2\u00a0 Gingrich&#8217;s idea is more conservative than the Larouche cult&#8217;s, but then again I believe the Larouche cults&#8217; ideas are largely wrapped up with the freedom that comes with never having to go through the task of implementation.<\/p>\n<p>In the mid 90s, Robert Zubrin met with Gingrich, his &#8220;Case for Mars&#8221; book makes mention of the &#8220;Gingrich Plan&#8221;, which strikes me as a gimmick &#8212; Reward money to entrepreneurs who pull it off, something McCain advocated in 2008 with respect to renewable energy.\u00c2\u00a0 If it seems Gingrich&#8217;s ideas here are outside the mainstream, consider Larouche&#8217;s, and then consider Robert Zubrin.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"%20%0Ahttp:\/\/davidaslindsay.blogspot.com\/2012\/01\/astro-newt.html\">David Lindsay on Newt Gingrich<\/a>.<br \/>\n<em>Newt Gingrich has form. He wants &#8220;a mirror system in space [that] could provide the light equivalent of many full moons so that there would be no need for night-time lighting of the highways.&#8221; Oh, and &#8220;a large array of mirrors that could affect the earth&#8217;s climate&#8221;, thereby extending the growing season for farmers. And now, he has earned the endorsement, which I would expect to be forthcoming, of Lyndon LaRouche, by advocating the old loony&#8217;s signature policy of colonising the Moon and then Mars. Yes, that&#8217;s right. Mars<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Interesting to note that the wikipedia page on Zubrin has had any mention of Larouche deleted from it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/projectavalon.net\/forum4\/showthread.php?38944-LaRouche-tunnels-on-the-moon\">More on moon colonizing ideas<\/a>.<br \/>\nThere was a little jump in the video right after he mentioned the tunnels, methinks that there was some editing done.<br \/>\nI was intrigued when I first came across LaRouche, but then I spent some time tracking down a lawsuit that named everyone man, woman, and child in the United States as collateral for some mega-trillion dollar scheme to reroute all of the fresh water in North America (The Canadians don&#8217;t need it, but Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles sure do, according to Larouche&#8217;s PAC)&#8230; Oh yeah, just found it: NAWAPA and it&#8217;s still on his website, but the lawsuit isn&#8217;t referenced there that I was able to tell. And yes, the lawsuit was filed by his PAC.<br \/>\nAnyhoo, that episode convinced me that LaRouche is officially bat**** crazy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c2\u00a0STORY NUMBER THREE:\u00c2\u00a0 OCCUPY HARLEM CHAOS.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/inthesetimes.com\/uprising\/entry\/12594\/harlem_gives_occupy_tense_reception\/\">Start with coverage by In These Times<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The usual movements such as OWS and MoveOn were in attendance, but so were the so-called &#8220;LaRouchies,&#8221; followers of Lyndon LaRouche and his ideas, and a movement built on a foundation of paranoid conspiracy theories.<br \/>\nIn terms of Occupy&#8217;s history, the LaRouchies are perhaps most famous for handing the right-wing ammo to level charges of anti-Semitism at OWS whenever they parade around giant banners depicting Obama as Hitler.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s not as simple as dismissively saying &#8220;LaRouchies aren&#8217;t part of Occupy&#8221; because that&#8217;s actually not true. They, like the 9\/11 Truthers, have been at the OWS meetings and voting with the group since the beginning, so the majority non-Larouche following Occupiers found themselves in an awkward position last night when a small group unfurled a banner of Obama donning a toothbrush mustache.<br \/>\nOccupy couldn&#8217;t exactly kick out the LaRouchies, so they instead shifted the OWS protest several feet down the sidewalk to create space between themselves and the banners that quickly became a much-loathed target for some of Harlem&#8217;s residents, though many individuals seemed annoyed anyone had turned out to protest the president, regardless of their ideological stripe.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2012\/01\/20\/1056786\/-LaRouchies-DONT-speak-for-Occupy-Wall-Street%21-Why-are-some-here-conflating-their-messages-\">And on to Occupy Movement round up<\/a><br \/>\nWhen the Tea Party started gathering the LaRouchies showed up at their rallies. The Tea Party was blamed for the then novel Obama as Hitler posters. When Occupy Wall Street was spreading across the country the LaRouchies showed up at occupations. Fox News used those same Obama as Hitler posters to claim that Occupy Wall Street was Antisemitic. Now a Front Page diarist here has fallen victim to that same confusion.<br \/>\nThe diary on the Rec list makes the implication that Occupy Wall Street has somehow assimilated Lyndon LaRouche&#8217;s cult of personality. That the two movements have merged citing some dubious claims made in a piece by Allison Kelkenny. Her piece also points out how the two groups tend to mix like oil and water.<br \/>\nLaRouchies started showing up at Occupy Seattle in Westlake square. They always stood at the far end of the square from Occupy Seattle encampment, and never took part in any GA or mingled with the occupiers. We started gathering volunteers to stand in front of the LaRouchies with their Obama as Hitler signs with our own signs. I took part in this screening effort a couple of times. More than a few heated exchanges between the two groups took place \u00c2\u00a0Eventually they got discouraged and stopped showing up.<br \/>\nLaRouchies have become to political protests all across the spectrum what the Westboro Baptist Church has become to military funerals.<br \/>\nbut I took BBB&#8217;s diary as more of a cautionary tale&#8230; than an indictment.<br \/>\nI know in my heart that the OWS movement (and it&#8217;s growing constituency) is, at it&#8217;s core, too generous in spirit, compassion and resolve to ever become simpatico with shallow, impudent, fringe groups like the &#8220;LaRouchies.&#8221;<br \/>\ninvolved in this protest who are from Harlem and who do ally themselves with OWS are definitely not LaRouchies.<br \/>\nWhere they fall in the spectrum of Harlem politics would take too long to explain here -but the short version is she, and a few others are Green Party.<br \/>\nI hope I didn&#8217;t conflate the two in my post. \u00c2\u00a0I am in no way suggesting that Nellie and the Occupy Harlem people were part of the LaRouchie group or invited them or anything like that.<br \/>\nTotally separate thing. \u00c2\u00a0The LaRouchies show up at these things and have done this type of thing for decades now.<br \/>\nEveryone see Nellie at the very beginning of the 11 minute video that Horace posted above (and I posted again below for convenience). \u00c2\u00a0 She&#8217;s no LaRouchie. \u00c2\u00a0I agree with what she said about the 99% and the 1% and the office of the presidency enabling the 1%, which is essentially what she was saying. \u00c2\u00a0The LaRouchies with the big signs stood out like a sore thumb. \u00c2\u00a0They were not part of the Occupy Harlem (and other orgs) event that Nellie was there for.<br \/>\nfor well organized protests done by organizations and movements that do have leaders too. \u00c2\u00a0Left and right, apparently. \u00c2\u00a0You see them at anti-war protests. \u00c2\u00a0LaRouchies were at Netroots Nation in Austin too. \u00c2\u00a0Had a table set up out front, talking to people and giving out literature.<br \/>\n<strong>LaRouchies are like political bed bugs<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>&#8220;like&#8221;??? Didn&#8217;t really need that word.<\/strong><br \/>\nset up in front of the downtown Macy&#8217;s, or Benaroya Hall, home of the Seattle Symphony. I&#8217;ve never heard it suggested that Macy&#8217;s or the symphony are somehow besmirched by their noxious philosophy.<br \/>\nThe larouchies go where and say what they please. For better or worse, we are still a somewhat free country.<br \/>\nThere have been users here concern trolling the occupy movement from the beginning, often on the flimsiest of pretexts. It will probably get worse this year, because occupy will not bend a knee to either party.<br \/>\nThe question is &#8220;How can Occupy get rid of the anti-Semitic, Paulista and LaRouchie lunatics who cling to it when Occupy runs on near-consensus?&#8221; \u00c2\u00a0While answering, remember (a) that LaRouche can mobilize people anywhere and any time, (b) that $50 is plenty to hire a homeless person to act like a jackass and (c) any successful divorce from the lunatics will teach any authoritarians or APs that remain in Occupy just how to get rid of the next faction.&#8221;<br \/>\nThis, not the evictions last year, may prove to be Occupy&#8217;s hardest test.<br \/>\nDo we have proof that the &#8220;nazi&#8221; chants were by\u00c2\u00a0 the LaRouchies? Whose brilliant idea was it to protest Obama in Harlem? Did anybody in the movement reach out to the AA in Harlem for their thoughts on this?. It looked \u00c2\u00a0like OWS was not welcome in Harlem by that community.<br \/>\nDoes anybody actually know anyone who is a LaRouchie? \u00c2\u00a0Any of your family members, coworkers or friends? \u00c2\u00a0Yet they show up to protest events to try to make protesters look like fringe. \u00c2\u00a0Left or right, doesn&#8217;t matter, as long as somebody is protesting the status quo, the LaRouchies will be there to try to discredit them. \u00c2\u00a0But I don&#8217;t know even one in real life and I never have. \u00c2\u00a0Funny, that.<br \/>\n2. Yes, I know actual LaRouchies. \u00c2\u00a0Spent time around college campuses and you&#8217;ll meet young and idealistic students who haven&#8217;t quite figured out what&#8217;s wrong with LaRouche but buy into the ostensible vision of him as a credible and legitimate counterweight to the two-party system. \u00c2\u00a0That&#8217;s why the LaRouche team recruits at campuses so often.<br \/>\nInvariably they are young, high school or college age, white, and always come off as very idealistic&#8230; at least until they start talking about their &#8220;revealed knowledge&#8221; and how they&#8217;re &#8220;fighting the power&#8221; (they don&#8217;t actually say it in those words, but that&#8217;s basically what they&#8217;re getting at). I&#8217;m not sure if they were just very well paid actors, or if LaRouche or some other charismatic lower down in the organization took advantage of their idealism, desire for authenticity, and wish to do something to fix the world&#8217;s problems.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s really very depressing, because when they show up they are usually very well organized and, as I say, come off as very determined and idealistic. They could do so much if they put that idealism and drive to work in service of a cause that wasn&#8217;t headed by a megalomaniac who doesn&#8217;t give a damn about them.<br \/>\nThe demographic really is similar to the Paulites in a lot of ways. \u00c2\u00a0And a lot of LaRouchites are even more rabid.<br \/>\neven if the LaRouchies hadn&#8217;t shown up (which, sad to say, should be expected at this point), it is still just a terrible message to send to protest Obama outside the Apollo (!!!). Obviously, this wasn&#8217;t fully thought through.<br \/>\nHopefully this doesn&#8217;t develop into some epic internal shitstorm. The organizers of the Occupy event should just admit that it was a bad idea, learn from their mistake, publicly denounce the LaRouchies, and in a week or two something will happen and everyone will forget about this.<br \/>\nFor me, because I&#8217;ve had to interact and deal with LaRouchies in the past, my reaction would be: &#8220;ignore &#8217;em.&#8221; They&#8217;re nobodies. They&#8217;ve been spouting crazy shit for years. Thirty years ago, a LaRouchie at the airport tried to convince my dad that pornography and the New Math were what was destroying society. As a mathematician who learned his trade in the &#8217;60s, and with a copy of Playboy under his shoulder, he laughingly replied that, well, he represented both.<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s nothing to see here. Just a bunch of kooks showing up like they always do and saying stupid shit. I&#8217;m surprised this has gotten as much attention as it has.<br \/>\nPick up something &#8211; anything &#8211; written by LaRouche. \u00c2\u00a0You&#8217;ll find it&#8217;s convoluted, impossible to comprehend, barely-recognizable-as-English, horse pucky.<br \/>\nJust another con artist who uses one of the oldest tricks in the book &#8211; write something utterly incomprehensible, while at the same time, tell people you&#8217;re a genius.<br \/>\nSome fools are bound to believe you.<br \/>\nOne pamphlet I picked up had some stuff about building a railway line that connected North America to Asia, by way of a bridge across the Bering Sea. It&#8217;s a great idea in principle, but it would be incredibly hard to build. And that was one of the ideas that made sense. Another was going on about circles and squares and Nicholas of Cusa and something about how the Renaissance was better than the Enlightenment. I didn&#8217;t understand it then as an impressionable fourteen year old, and I somehow doubt I&#8217;d understand it any better now that I&#8217;m older.<br \/>\nLaRouchies are troublemakers. Have been for decades. They get a lot of things right, but unfortunately what they get right is drowned out by their idiotic extremism and nutbar ideas in the remainder. This is a group that has been all over the map for decades, and at this point we can safely say that all it&#8217;s got is an ideology of opposition and rebellion. That&#8217;s it. It doesn&#8217;t oppose anything specific, and isn&#8217;t rebelling against much in particular. It&#8217;s just full of angry conspiracy theorists who want the world to make sense again. It was a radical socialist organization in the 70s, laid down with the KKK and white supremacist groups in the 80s, and pioneered credit card fraud in the same period. It&#8217;s leader, Lyndon LaRouche, is a paranoiac who cannot tolerate any dissent within his organization. And while, as I said, perhaps 70% or 80% of what he says is right on the mark, the Chinese say the same thing about Mao, and he was responsible for the &#8220;Great Leap Forward&#8221; and the Cultural Revolution. Like with everybody, it&#8217;s the 20% or 30% that&#8217;s batshit crazy that you have to look out for.<br \/>\n<strong>If anyone here feels sympathy towards the LaRouchies, I beg their pardon, but this is personal with me. When I was young and naive, I got hoodwinked into giving $5 to a LaRouchie for some of their literature that by rights he should have been handing out for free, and ever since then I have felt offended every time I see them. I understand the desire to not be divided and conquered, but I really don&#8217;t see anything that the LaRouche organization has to add, and I don&#8217;t think that it could contribute to the OWS movement in any constructive way.<\/strong><br \/>\nI mean, who are these crazy people really. They&#8217;ve been around for years disrupting the progressive wing of \u00c2\u00a0local Democratic organizing. And also the left. Perhaps we need a new rule, as soon as you start throwing around the word &#8220;facist&#8221; you must leave the meeting.<br \/>\nFor all that I&#8217;ve said, I can&#8217;t quite make them out myself, but they&#8217;ve definitely been stirring up trouble for decades now. I think we had some try to make trouble at a precinct caucus back in &#8217;03 or &#8217;04, but thankfully the party organization there was organized and smart enough to know them for the clowns that they are and was able to stop them from causing any damage.<br \/>\nThey&#8217;ve been doing the Obama Hitler Mustache thing for years now, before he was even elected President. I saw a bunch of them camped out in front of a post office once with a card table, and one of those posters hanging off the front of it. I was very tempted to walk right up to them, grab the table, and flip it over, or at least give them a verbal horsewhipping. In the end, I did neither, which is probably for the best. I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;ll restrain myself from dressing them down if I ever see them again though&#8230;<br \/>\nPart of the Laroucheies schtick is having a choir singing. \u00c2\u00a0Check the video posted upthread at around 2:55 and you will see the Obama Hitler banner has a web address to the Laroucheies at the top. \u00c2\u00a0I took a quick screen capture click the image below to see it larger.<br \/>\nyou&#8217;d find that the cult seems to be used as an agent every now and then. I first noticed when they set up in parking lots and such, pushing what became known as &#8220;Star Wars.&#8221; The idea hadn&#8217;t even been floated in public at the time. Sort of like test-marketers.<br \/>\n<strong>I deduce he is used by disinfo people, and he takes the occasional insider tidbit given him in exchange for services to dazzle his saps with his power and connections.<\/strong><br \/>\nI wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see that they were plants, and in both movements. Although that he sees it as a chance to break into leadership of the revolution is certainly a part of it.<br \/>\n<strong>If you want a laugh, you can read him talking about &#8220;well, I warned Pres. Kennedy&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;I told Dr King&#8230;&#8221; as if he was at table with them, instead of being some unconnected, unknown in an apartment writing letters to them.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/gordspoetryfactory.blogspot.com\/2012\/01\/gop-candidates-racism-on-display.html\">Once again:<\/a><em>\u00c2\u00a0 #Ows officially disowns LaRouche&#8217;s and rejects any accusations of \u00c2\u00a0similarity between the two groups.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.columbiaspectator.com\/2012\/01\/20\/traditional-democratic-stronghold-harlem-barrage-protesters-greets-obama\">Others sang, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Obama is a Nazi.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/a><br \/>\n<em>Passersby said they were angered by the protesters\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 presence. One group of four encouraged protesters with signs to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153use that shit for toilet paper.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Diane Sare, a Congressional candidate in New Jersey\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s 5th District from the fringe LaRouche Democrats group, used the event to campaign against Obama. She insisted that his policies violate the Constitution.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Sadly, Obama is the worst president we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve ever had,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d she said. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153He bombed Libya without going through Congress, he signed NDAA [the National Defense Authorization Act] on New Year\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Eve when everyone was drunk, and he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s allowing U.S. citizens to be detained without a trial.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The La Rouche movement have made it their trademark to compare Obama with Hitler. I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll see more of this from them. Yes, it&#8217;s clear it didn&#8217;t come from Harlem residents.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Actually I think that Ron Paul is a Racist, Bigoted fool, Lyndon LaRouche is just a plain fool.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/allisonkilkenny.com\/2012\/01\/response-to-glen-ford-at-black-agenda-report\/\">HARLEM OCCUPY attempted<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 <em>What I did say is that OWS did a poor job of outreach in Harlem, and I stand by that. All I can convey to my readers is what I witnessed first hand, and that was several tense conflicts between Harlem residents and the Larouche followers. Again, all I convey is what I saw happen, and that was many passersby expressing anger at the image of Obama-as-Hitler paraded around by the Larouchies.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>The result was mass confusion. Occupy\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s productive messages about Stop And Frisk and NDAA were lost in the circus created by the Larouchies. Again, not Occupy\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s fault (I attempted to explain in the article that it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not as simple as Occupy banning the Larouchies because they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been part of the movement since the beginning,) but I had to report what actually happened.<\/em><br \/>\n&#8230; <em>As to the LaRouche supporters, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m sure they received a less than warm welcome in Harlem. But, whether or not they have members in the General Assembly, they also met up with a hostile reception in lower Manhattan on the very first day of Occupy Wall Street on September 17th from at least a small group of occupiers. Why were the LaRouche supporters newsworthy in Harlem and not in the Financial District?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Hm.\u00c2\u00a0 Well.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/bluecollarphilosophy.com\/2012\/01\/fail-daily-kos-uses-larouche-democrats-obama-poster-to-slander-conservatives-screen-shot\/\">It continues<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And so it goes&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thepeoplesvoice.org\/TPV3\/Voices.php\/2012\/01\/13\/congress-gives-obama-his-hitlerian-enabl\">&#8220;Congress gives Obama his Hitlerian Enabling Act.\u00c2\u00a0 Repeat since Carter.<\/a> &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>STORY NUMBER FOUR:\u00c2\u00a0 STATE OF THE UNION IS FULL OF LOCUSTS<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.skeptictank.org\/files\/\/xhate\/satanicl.htm\">The finish of a webcast where Larouche gave his version of the &#8220;State of the Union.<\/a>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em>If I go, I can forecast with something near to the power of prophecy: that which will have destroyed my life shall not long survive. Either the good people of this world will destroy that force, or what that force has unleashed upon this world, will surely destroy the Establishment which has permitted such evils to be unleashed. Unless the Establishment changes course, and heeds my warning, those two outcomes are the only choice for all the nations of this planet, and that a choice whose consequence will come upon this entire planet during the years just ahead, Either way, Satan and his evil mother shall die.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/my.opera.com\/JesusIsLife\/blog\/state-of-the-union-lyndon-larouche-jan-18-2012\">And never let it be said that I don&#8217;t link to people of all political and religious purusasions.<\/a><br \/>\n<em>God will still Bless His people in times of Famine..<\/em><br \/>\n<em> LaRouche is a smart man but has no spiritual discernment.. like most people trying to &#8220;save&#8221; America through politics an politicians like Ron Paul(hates Israel).. they dont even have a clue that America is under Gods judgement and we are in the last days before Jesus return..<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Notice how LaRouche keeps calling everybody stupid an puppets and clowns.. yet LaRouche himself is spirutally blind, deaf, an dumb, like most talking heads in the Secular news media.<\/em><\/p>\n<div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scoop.co.nz\/stories\/WO1201\/S00590\/save-australia-save-the-world.htm\">The Citizens Electoral Council says<\/a>&#8230; If you don&#8217;t watch these videos, you&#8217;re responsible for the Thermonucelar War that&#8217;s about to happen.<br \/>\n<strong>STORY NUMBER FIVE: Wall Street Shuffle Program nixes Larouche Interview.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewallstreetshuffle.com\/mitt-romney-and-dan-cofall-vesus-lyndon-larouche\/\">The Wall Street Shuffle does the equivalent of a &#8220;No Comment<\/a>&#8220;.<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewallstreetshuffle.com\/friends-of-the-show\/\">Still on the list of &#8220;Friends of the Show&#8221;<\/a>.<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.selectsmart.com\/DISCUSS\/read.php?16,878028,878037\">THE MEDIA BLACKOUT IS REAL<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Hey. \u00c2\u00a0It&#8217;s the org that cancelled this appearance.<br \/>\nThey always have this:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/nw0.eu\/2012\/01\/italian-tv-announces-plans-to-rerun-larouche-warning.html\">Italian national television corporation RAI has announced a program for tonight at 23.30, leading off with Lyndon LaRouche&#8217;s celebrated interview in 2003<\/a>.<br \/>\nOn January 9, 2012, Lyndon <em>LaRouche<\/em> appeared on the Jack Stockwell Radio Show.\u00c2\u00a0 He&#8217;s no Alex Jones.\u00c2\u00a0 Or Wall Street Shuffle.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.selectsmart.com\/DISCUSS\/read.php?16,878028,878037\"><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<strong><\/strong><\/div>\n<p><strong>STORY NUMBER SIX:\u00c2\u00a0 PO TOUR<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/wonkette.com\/460286\/john-edwards-waging-heroic-life-threatening-battle-with-karma\">Dateline&#8230; somewhere<\/a><em><br \/>\nAnd here in my peaceful little hometown, I am treated to the sight of\u00c2\u00a0LaRouchies\u00c2\u00a0having their asses royally kicked by gawd and everybody for schlepping around a giant poster of the Prez with a Hitler moustache. I&#8217;m am so not even VISITING&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.columbiaspectator.com\/2012\/01\/23\/street-fight-erupts-altered-obama-image\">Dateline\u00c2\u00a0 Columbia<\/a>:<em><br \/>\nThe organizers, Brinkley said, were merely trying to mobilize people against the bill. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s all we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re doing out here,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he said. The man who took offense to the poster \u00e2\u20ac\u0153didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really talk to us or anything\u00e2\u20ac\u201dhe just reacted to the mustache.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Another LaRouche supporter was in the area this week\u00e2\u20ac\u201dNew Jersey congressional candidate Diane Sare protested outside Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s rally at Harlem\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Apollo Theatre on Thursday and handed out fliers in support of her campaign.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>This was the second time the man who toppled the table had a reaction to the photo, he said\u00e2\u20ac\u201dthe first time, on the Upper West Side, he was arrested and put in jail. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I told the police officers, \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcOK, you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll see me again if I see this in my neighborhood,\u00e2\u20ac\u2122\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he said.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Though Rebello called the police to take matters into their own hands, officers did not see any reason to arrest the man.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Nobody\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s hurt,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d a police lieutenant on the scene said. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153No property damaged, everybody\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s happy. We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve got a happy ending.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><br \/>\n<em>I don&#8217;t know what those guys are unto. They tried talking to me. I am of Indian ethnicity. When I disagreed with them, they asked me whether I was even from the US! It is really unclear to me what exactly it is that they are doing. good for CC&#8217; 83 I wish I had thought of that!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/belmont.patch.com\/articles\/post-office-showdown-larouche\">Dateline Belmont<\/a><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-9537 alignleft\" title=\"belmontlar\" src=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/belmontlar-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/p>\n<p>For the most part, most residents pass quickly by the table with political pamphlets and posters manned by a pair of Lyndon LaRouche supporters\u00c2\u00a0questioning the legitimacy of President Obama&#8217;s administration.<br \/>\nBut the tactics being used appear less to inform the public then to provoke a reaction. Several people Saturday,\u00c2\u00a0Jan. 28,\u00c2\u00a0reported a &#8220;loud, angry display&#8221; of anti-Obama sentiment from two protesters at the post office. [&#8230;]<br \/>\nPolice found the Belmont resident in nearby Belmont Center. He said the protesters \u00e2\u20ac\u201c who he had words with before entering the building \u00e2\u20ac\u201c appeared to be waiting for him to exit the post office as they began singing a derogatory song about the president.<br \/>\nHe admitted &#8220;nudging&#8221; up to the table but not swinging at either of the pair.<br \/>\nWitnesses said they saw a heated argument take place although no one saw a swing or a cell phone being hit.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/belmont.patch.com\/users\/henry-macwhirr\">HENRY MacWhir hates this article<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/summit.patch.com\/articles\/lyndon-larouche-campaign-supporters-set-up-in-summit#video-8893986 \">Dateline Summit<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 A video.\u00c2\u00a0 &#8220;<em>Remove Obama. \u00c2\u00a0And we can have Biden or Hillary or whoever.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/edwingo\/6791545757\/in\/photostream\">Dateline<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/edwingo\/6791556635\/in\/photostream\">Mountain View<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0 NAWAPA is the key to survival and impeach Obama.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eastbayri.com\/news\/2012\/jan\/31\/anti-obama-protesters-outside-post-office\/\">Dateline East Providence<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/obama_protest_t670.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-9530 alignleft\" title=\"obama_protest_t670\" src=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/obama_protest_t670-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><em>When the two first arrived on scene, their signs and pamphlets were set up on a table. The two were later required to remove their table, however, because of a city ordinance. Section 14-5 of city ordinances, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Sign Prohibition,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d states no sign shall be placed within or upon any street or sidewalk except by permission of the city manager.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Dateline Fenton Michigan<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-9461 alignleft\" title=\"alanegreofhitlerobama\" src=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/alanegreofhitlerobama-150x150.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>MISCELLANEOUS<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/deceiverjr.blogspot.com\/2012\/01\/lynden-larouche-was-right.html\">The Simpsons joke continues in meme-like fashion<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/nuclearnuttery.wordpress.com\/2012\/01\/28\/larouche-group-predicting-major-pnwmexico-border-earthquake\/\">I guess &#8220;Nuclear Nutery&#8221; is waiting to decide whether to make that declaration<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 <em>I feel kind of sick relaying this, not sure if it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s propaganda or true, but this group is spot on in a few areas including some public interest such as the welfare of the public.<\/em> [&#8230;] <em>Kinda weird<\/em>.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/jimmyprophet.wordpress.com\/2012\/01\/27\/warning-lyndon-larouche-research-warns-of-massive-west-coast-earthquake\/\">Yeah, Russia is concerned<\/a>.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.palmbeachdailynews.com\/society\/do-these-palm-beachers-sound-like-anyone-you-2087396.html\"><br \/>\nThe other Simpsons joke about Grandpa Simpson comes to mind with this &#8220;Palm Beach&#8221;er item<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>DAYS IN HISTORY:<a href=\"http:\/\/lgbtpov.frontiersla.com\/2012\/01\/30\/gov-brown-proclaims-jan-30-fred-korematsu-day-to-honor-the-japanese-american-internment-hero\/\"><br \/>\nToday, on what would have been Korematsu\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s 93<sup>rd<\/sup> birthday, the Japanese American is considered a hero for refusing to go along with the government\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s order to intern Japanese American citizens during World War II. When California Rep. <\/a>William Dannemeyer and right winger Lyndon La Rouche wanted to <a href=\"http:\/\/lyndonlarouche.org\/aids.htm\" target=\"_blank\">quarantine gays with HIV\/AIDS<\/a> in the mid-late 1980s, AIDS activists would often refer to the experience of the Japanese Americans in the internment camps and resisted the repetition of history.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.chicagomag.com\/Chicago-Magazine\/December-1987\/Hatchet-Man-The-Rise-of-David-Axelrod\/index.php?cparticle=2&amp;siarticle=1\">1986 Illinois nominations come up in this article on &#8220;The Rise of David Axelrod&#8221;<\/a>.<br \/>\nAnd ye know this.\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.deccanchronicle.com\/tabloid\/others\/where-can-prisoner-become-president-463\"> It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s illegal for prisoners to vote, but they can run for President of the United States! Even though it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s unimaginable that the United States would elect a prisoner, it has actually been done more than once. In 2004, Lyndon LaRouche, an 81-year-old Democrat ran for President for the eighth time. On his fifth try in 1992, he ran from a prison cell where he was serving for tax evasion, mail fraud and conspiracy. In 2004, Leonard Peltier, an American Indian activist from the Peace and Freedom party ran for President from prison, as well. His crime was killing two FBI agents in 1975 in South Dakota. Apparently, he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been trying to get a parole hearing since 1986<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 (Eugene Debs remains the greatest prisoner running for President.)<\/p>\n<p>And that realm of Comparisons, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freerepublic.com\/focus\/f-news\/2833457\/posts\">ala Free Republic<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Ron Paul.<br \/>\nWell duh. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been pointing out the similarities between the Paulistinians and the LaRoushis for a long time.<br \/>\nWith the proportional delegate scheme the GOP is using this year, Lyndon LaRouche II has a fairly decent shot at winning. Do not underestimate this 911 Truther to be as incompetent as LaRouche. He has a plan and may take over the convention no matter that the outcome for the other candidates is.<br \/>\nLaRouche??? Maybe&#8230; LaDouche??? DEFINATELY!!!<br \/>\nFunny. Like a clown. I began calling him Lyndon LaRuepaul just last week.<br \/>\nIn my opinion, conspiracy theorizing hacks like Larouche, and Paul have much credibility. Through the scope of hindsight, what they have spoken of, has not only come to pass, but has been seen as mainstream news. NOW we call them nuts, but they are and were right about the course of history.<br \/>\nLyndon\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s still breathing, isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t he? What do we need a new one for.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve always said, that the only difference between LaRouche and Paul is LaRouche draws a Hitler mustache on whoever the current President is, while for Paul he does so with whoever the Fed Chairman might be. Other that that they are of the same cloth and so are their followers.<br \/>\nIs Ron Paul the New Lyndon LaRouche?\u00c2\u00a0 Yes, with Pat Paulsen icing on the cake.<strong><br \/>\nLaRouche. I first ran into his people in the early 80s. They were giving away copies of his Fusion Energy Foundation magazine, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Fusion.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d There were a number of reputable nuclear physics people onboard.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>It was an interesting magazine. Somehow I stupidly gave them my contact information and they started hounding me for money. The guy on the phone would go into a non-stop rant on something or other. The idea was, if you give me money, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll stop talking. I would let the guy talk forever and then say, no, not able to give you any money today.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>They were hard to shake off, but they eventually went away.<\/strong><br \/>\nLaRouche\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s movement is alive and well and six members of his organization are running for US Senate. People on FR have strong views about LaRouche without ever reading a word he or his organization wrote. He is the one who popularized the image of Obama with a Hitler moustache. Anyone here who has the intellectual integrity to research source material rather than the flap jawed puppetry of ideological hacks can do so with the click of a mouse button here:<a href=\"http:\/\/telchaination.blogspot.com\/2012\/01\/ron-paul-is-new-lyndon-larouche.html\"><br \/>\nAnd like LaRouche before him, Paul has also left a whole bunch of conspiracy-mongering moonbats who&#8217;ll be a likely problem for years to come<\/a>.<br \/>\nI wont hide my admiration for Lyndon <em>Larouche<\/em>. I believe he is one of the most amazing people on this planet. I can&#8217;t say I agree with all his ideas but i admire his way to analyze things and putting the history in perspective. The guy is brilliant <strong>.<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/spectator.org\/blog\/2012\/01\/03\/mark-levin-challenges-ron-rand\"><br \/>\nThe paultards are probably having lunch with their brethren, the <em>LaRouchies<\/em>, another fine group of true constitutionalists.<\/a>.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rickpotvin.com\/2012\/01\/henry-makow-likes-dr-judy-woods-book.html\"><br \/>\nRick Potvin also likes Henry MaKow<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Of course he does.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2012\/01\/14\/1054737\/-Is-Paul-the-new-Lyndon-LaRouche?via=sidebar\">it&#8217;s that Paulbots are LaRouchies who&#8217;ve aged out<\/a>.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/slog.thestranger.com\/slog\/archives\/2012\/01\/10\/live-slogging-the-ron-paul-new-hampshire-speech\">So he&#8217;s a republican that wants to cut government and is pro-life that doesn&#8217;t make he and his followers whack jobs or nut job\u00c2\u00a0<em>Larouchies<\/em>. Persoanlly, I&#8217;d LOVE to see Ron Paul Obama debates<\/a>,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.deccanchronicle.com\/tabloid\/others\/where-can-prisoner-become-president-463\"><br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/presstv.com\/detail\/221340.html\">Jeffrey Steinberg adds some pretty useless political commentary to Iranian tv<\/a>, creating a controversy for Iran&#8217;s propaganda outlet where there is none.\u00c2\u00a0 Also seen on Iranian tv, this which features <a href=\"http:\/\/presstv.com\/detail\/222071.html\">Richard Becker of the A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition in San Francisco and Gretchen Small form Executive Intelligence Review in Washingto<\/a>n.\u00c2\u00a0 FANTASTIC!\u00c2\u00a0 International ANSWER, eh?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing the theme of third party relays of Larouche, while the Libertarian Party of Harris County doesn&#8217;t much have use for him but will humor them for a few minutes, the gate&#8217;s wide open with the Constitution of California&#8221;, as we see here by chair\u00c2\u00a0Don J. 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