{"id":9056,"date":"2011-10-13T11:07:08","date_gmt":"2011-10-13T18:07:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=9056"},"modified":"2011-10-13T18:48:51","modified_gmt":"2011-10-14T01:48:51","slug":"notes-from-the-occupation-the-larouchian-edition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2011\/10\/13\/notes-from-the-occupation-the-larouchian-edition\/","title":{"rendered":"notes from the occupation: the larouchian edition"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hm. \u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=sWWZAoHdBZU\" target=\"_blank\">an interview with Walter Jones<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0I haven&#8217;t had a chance to hear it yet, but : \u00c2\u00a0Note to congress men:\u00c2\u00a0 yes, you do interviews with a lot of different organizations, and frankly I want congress members to go on a lot of different sources, up and down the spectrum.\u00c2\u00a0 But please Avoid this one.<br \/>\nAlso you should have asked why they&#8217;re still pestering about Glass Steagall when, according to them, \u00c2\u00a0the deadline for Glass Steagall was July 4.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.6bnb.com\/?p=5032\">Alex Jones thinks it is all about the Fed. \u00c2\u00a0As does Ron Paul<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0But this is puzzling. \u00c2\u00a0Alex Jones says &#8220;I agree with Larouche&#8221; &#8211;but \u00c2\u00a0doesn&#8217;t mention Glass Steagall.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"Alex Jones -- Larouche COMMENTPALOOZA http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=FANiys8PStY&amp;feature=player_embedded\" target=\"_blank\">Larouche was on the Alex Jones show again<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0This one was the shortest one yet. \u00c2\u00a0With the least amount of reverberations that I see. \u00c2\u00a0So the Larouche Movement has gotten him where they want him, tapped down to a new normal.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p><em>Oh geesh ~ anyone but Lyndon Ladouche. Lyndon is a known mental patient. He is a man so deluded and paranoid (especially over Obama) and out of touch with the basics of reality I&#8217;m not at all surprised he would turn up here. Way to go, Alex, way to dumb your audience down further.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>BTW is Alex transmitting from the base floor of a Motel 6?<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Lyndon Larouche passes gas that is smarter than you&#8230;.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>The best chance of prosecution of these criminals rests with the de jure Republic &#8211; republicfortheunitedstates (dot) org. If the military switches sides and backs the de jure Republic over the de facto corporate government, you would have instant enforcement and then these clowns in DC would be looking at prosecutions and convictions.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>And now, reaction from\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/21134540\/vp\/44867093#44823976\">Obama Hitler poster making an appearance on Al Sharpton&#8217;s MSNBC show, after video of Hank Williams Jr calling Obama Hitler<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/weaselzippers.us\/2011\/10\/10\/larouche-supporter-admits-conservatives-had-nothing-to-do-with-obamahitler-posters-msm-tried-to-pin-on-tea-partiers\/\" target=\"_blank\">The liberals dress up and bring out their Nazi gear. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s their tool to try to discredit conservatives.<\/a><\/em><br \/>\n<em>Conservatives just don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t do that. \u00c2\u00a0<\/em>(<a href=\"http:\/\/boingboing.net\/2011\/10\/09\/did-a-right-wing-agent-provocateur-instigate-air-and-space-museum-pepper-spray-chaos.html\" target=\"_blank\">ah-choo<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2011\/09\/23\/1019550\/-BREAKING:-Palestinian-President-Abbas-Israeli-PM-Netanyahu-Deliver-Highly-Anticipated-UN-Speeches\">Beware the Provacauters<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><em>I suspect your true views are far right wing ones. and you are here to try and deceive us while stiring the pot.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>I agree that he is far-Right&#8230;. \u00c2\u00a0I wonder if he is a Paulist&#8230;..<\/em><br \/>\n<em>If I had to hazard a guess \u00c2\u00a0I&#8217;d go with a LaRouchie<\/em><br \/>\n<em>OOOH you might be right \u00c2\u00a0 I guess I am thinking this is &#8220;American&#8221; from MondoFront who I believe was saying that he was liking Ron Paul. But yeah, he might be a LaRouchie.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> In event I suspect that you are right and that he is acting the Provocateur.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>I encounter LaRouchies all the time at Fox Nation \u00c2\u00a0 where some of their conspiratorial bullshit almost fits right in, but not quite. \u00c2\u00a0It&#8217;s so uniformly shrill it even stands out in that place.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mrctv.org\/blog\/larouche-supporter-admits-liberal-media-falsely-connected-tea-party-their-obamahitler-sign\" target=\"_blank\">It is true that Larouche started the Hitler comparison to President Obama&#8217;s Affordable Care Act. the tea party embraced the imagery as did most right wing blogs, news, and other pundits. It is nice that some people are able to uncover this and expose the idiocy that occurred with the health care debate<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.freerepublic.com\/focus\/f-bloggers\/2790618\/posts\" target=\"_blank\">I wish I had taken a picture of their table at the 9-12-09 rally in Washington when they were trying to pass out those flyers and signs. No one was taking them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>2)<a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitbart.tv\/larouche-supporter-admits-liberal-media-falsely-connected-tea-party-to-their-obamahitler-sign\/\" target=\"_blank\">\u00c2\u00a0Like I give a darn about what a LaRouche Douche says<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>LaRouch is a twisted form of eventual communism because it attempted to use the rhetoric of the right as well as the left to support\/hid their far left goals<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Thats why they say they want to get rid of the &#8220;left-right&#8221; spectrum&#8230;&#8230;because they attempt to use it all Once they convince people therer is no left and riight. all their confused logic seems correct..<br \/>\n<\/em><em>Funny thing is that this LaRouch guy seems more intelligent, better spoken, with a better grasp of the issues, and seems more reasonable than nearly anyone in the media, let alone the OWS kids (whether you agree with him or not). And yet the OWS kids, the media, and the Democrat party are all considered to be somehow &#8220;Main Stream&#8221;.<br \/>\n<\/em><em>How many LaRoushies are left?<br \/>\n<\/em><em>A half dozen?<br \/>\n<\/em><em>Ten?<br \/>\n<\/em><em>20?<br \/>\n<\/em><em>LaRouchies make PaulBots seem sane and rational. When Bush was President, they were marching around with Bush\/Hitler posters. Anyone who isn&#8217;t Lyndon LaRouche is Hitler.<\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/crayfisher.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/10\/self-limiting-growth-potential\/\" target=\"_blank\">Our local teaps really discourage anti-Obama signs to keep the message focused on Congress and fiscal policy. Of course the media took a photo of the one nut job birther sign. And a Larouche sign. (Obamahitler). Otherwise, our 99% are pretty normal<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is all hinged off of:\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.brooklynvegan.com\/archives\/2011\/10\/hank_williams_j.html\">\u00c2\u00a0Hank Williams Jr says he&#8217;s Sorry for Comparing Obama to Hitler.<\/a><br \/>\n<em>The Obama\/Hitler stuff is principally Larouche nutbags, and I don&#8217;t even know where those kooks fit on the political spectrum.<\/em><br \/>\nYeah, I once compared Bush to Hitler.\u00c2\u00a0 When asked if I was serious, I said, &#8220;Hm.\u00c2\u00a0 No.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0 My corrolary to Godwin&#8217;s Law is for an allowance for brief flights of hot rhetoric and inappropriate humor.\u00c2\u00a0 The Larouche org fails the test where Williams passes, somewhat.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailypaul.com\/user\/940\">Perry911 for Ron Paul goes to bat with Larouche video<\/a> &#8212; the big 10\/8 Historic Address.<\/p>\n<p>And&#8230;\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intel\/2011\/10\/libertarians_and_partisanship.html\">In the same way, communists, UFO conspiracy theorists and followers of Lyndon LaRouche are very non-partisan, but this doesn&#8217;t tell you anything terribly flattering about their ability to think for themselve<\/a>s.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>Note from the Campaign Trails of the Kesha Rogers Summer Shields Rachel Brown Dave Christie Diane Sare and that other guy Campaign Hustlings:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=T6WJZENqmt0\">Dave Christie, in Washington State, embarrassing himself<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kristinebrownphotography.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/12\/occupy-austin-profile-kesha-rogers-and-the-reinstatement-of-the-glass-steagall-act\/\">Occupy Austin<\/a>:<br \/>\nA profile of Kesha Rogers.<br \/>\n<em>While no representative currently in office has adopted or been elected on the LaRouche platform, many have voiced support for the establishment of more stringent regulations and reforms.\u00c2\u00a0Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) has introduced legislation (HR 1489 aka the Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011) to restore Glass-Steagall-like regulations, which, according to the LaRouche PAC, has garnered support from 45 house representatives in addition to a large number of unions and municipalities.\u00c2\u00a0Rogers says that by supporting the passage of Glass-Steagall, the supporting members of Congress are indirectly and passively supporting the impeachment of the President.\u00c2\u00a0 [&#8230;]<br \/>\n<\/em><em>HR 1489 does not include any other aspect of LaRouche\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s plan, nor does it suggest or even allude to the impeachment of President Obama. As stated on Rep. Kaptur\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s website, HR 1489 does, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153\u00c2\u00a0[repeal] certain provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and revives the separation between commercial banking and the securities business, in the manner provided in the Banking Act of 1933, the so-called \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcGlass-Steagall Act\u00e2\u20ac\u2122. The affiliations currently between certain entities would be required to be dissolved.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d [&#8230;]<br \/>\n<\/em><em>Kesha Rogers is a Houston resident who ran for Congress as a Democrat in 2010 and plans to run again in 2012. She has been an activist with the LaRouche PAC for 7 years, and will marry a fellow LaRouche PAC activist in 3 weeks.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>Dateline New York City<a href=\"http:\/\/nopolicestatecoalition.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/occupy-wall-street-protesters-could.html\">: \u00c2\u00a0From a Revolutionary Communist Point of View<\/a>, the Humanitarian Socialist Party:<br \/>\n<em>Unless one is well versed in the historical process of fascism, it is hard to spot a real Marxist revolutionary as opposed to a fascist masquerading as a revolutionary. Some openly endorse anti-Semitism but those are the very few, others like LaRouche for example endorse Democrats, or communists who hand out newspapers with dead Russian and Chinese leaders on the front of them. Supporting any of these characters would be tantamount to national suicide, no wonder the American people have resorted to backing anarchists, at least with this scenario we can remain in a state of flux while the American people have an opportunity to sort out the real radicals from the fakers set up by the perverse regime in order to divert revolutionary zeal.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Internal debates from the Occupy Movement: \u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ampedstatus.org\/network\/members\/voodooman\/activity\/44849\/\">I have repeatedly been confronted by irate people that accuse me of working for or with people like George Soros, Lyndon LaRouche, the FBI, CIA, US State Department and\/or the Democratic Party and the Obama Administration. Let me be 100% clear here, all of these accusations are F.A.L.S.E.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>As these things go, you shift through<a href=\"http:\/\/ampedstatus.org\/network\/groups\/a99\/\"> this<\/a> and get&#8230; good, great, and not good. \u00c2\u00a0The Larouchies are the most annoying part of this thing.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2011\/10\/occupy-la-this-is-what-civics-look-like\/246557\/\">Dateline Los Angeles<\/a>:<br \/>\n<em>What about being on message? At the encampment, there are communists next to Ron Paul supporters next to vegan activists next to those LaRouche people (who always seem to show up) \u00e2\u20ac\u201d even a couple of union guys. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve always called this liberal \u00e2\u20ac\u0153micro-cause-ism.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Will they stay on point? \u00e2\u20ac\u0153We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re not focused on the thing that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not causing the problem,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d says Aichele. Message cohesion is not the rigged system they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re rallying to change.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Dateline Ann Arbor, Michigan. \u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.michiganreview.com\/archives\/3390\">oooh. \u00c2\u00a0Ouch<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0<em>Amusingly, the Occupy protesters were joined by perpetually incoherent Lydon LaRouche-ites, apparently the only protesters there who did not want President Obama reelected. \u00c2\u00a0[&#8230;] \u00c2\u00a0Yet the only Obama critics at the protests are the space-case LaRouche supporters\u00e2\u20ac\u201cthe overwhelming majority of these attendees support his reelection. When LaRouche-ites begin to seem rational by comparison, something is wrong.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thedailybell.com\/3065\/Washington-Post-Admits-Occupy-Wall-Street-Is-Controlled-Opposition\">Hm&#8230;<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rightsidenews.com\/2011101214695\/us\/politics-and-economics\/washington-post-occupy-wall-street-is-controlled-opposition-maybe-larouchite.html\">Also found here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Our article will also point out, below, that what increasingly seems to be a controlled movement is in a sense a LaRouchite one. That&#8217;s because the economic analyst Lyndon LaRouche is excellent at analyzing what is wrong with the West from a free-market perspective, but his solutions are all statist ones. He is a big proponent of FDR, for instance. See more on this parallelism at the conclusion of this article. But back to the\u00c2\u00a0Post. [&#8230;]<br \/>\n<\/em><em>Editor&#8217;s Note: Is Occupy Wall Street a LaRouchite Movement?<br \/>\n<\/em><em>As we pointed out yesterday, the elite-controlled\u00c2\u00a0Adbusters\u00c2\u00a0magazine is behind Occupy Wall Street, along with pseudo anarchist David Graeber. They are the ones that provided the pseudo anarchist \u00e2\u20ac\u0153direct democracy\u00e2\u20ac\u009d meme, lifted at least in part, it seems, from Muammar Gaddafi&#8217;s little\u00c2\u00a0Green Book.<br \/>\n<\/em><em>But the movement goes back farther than that, to Anonymous and David DeGraw and AmpedStatus \u00e2\u20ac\u201c groups and individuals that were agitating for Wall Street demos as early as March of last year.<br \/>\n<\/em><em>We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve had questions about Anonymous in the past and we have little idea of exactly who David DeGraw is in terms of his real background, though we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve mentioned him before.\u00c2\u00a0We do know the current Occupy Wall Street movement is modeled in part on the Arab Spring movements that are evidently and obviously controlled by the State Dept., CIA, AYM, etc. That doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t mean DeGraw is part of such controllers, of course. [&#8230;]<br \/>\n<\/em><em>Correct. <strong>But, ahem, given Max&#8217; clout in the in the alternative media (compared to Lyndons) &#8211; I&#8217;d suggest &#8220;MaxKeiserite&#8221; instead of &#8220;LaRouchite&#8221;<\/strong> &#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/attackmachine.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/13\/flirting-with-disaster\/\">Karl Rove, for one, identifies the problems with the Occupiers as against the Tea Partiers<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0One is the existence of the Larouchies in the Occupiers camp. \u00c2\u00a0Funny, that Karl Rove. \u00c2\u00a0He Refuses to identify the Larouchies at the Tea Party as on par with the Occupiers. \u00c2\u00a0A disclaimer: \u00c2\u00a0despite my cynicism in this thing, and mixed opinions on matters, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a secret which &#8220;camp&#8221; of the two I hold more sympathy toward.<\/p>\n<p>Karl Rove probably hasn&#8217;t had a chance to catch Edward Spannaus on Iranian Press TV describe the Occupy Movement in&#8230; Larouchian terms:<\/p>\n<p><em>So I think what we&#8217;re looking at is what the German revolutionary, Rosa Luxemburg, termed the mass strike, in which, in a revolutionary period, you have large numbers of people who will take to the streets, who will take to protest and are often spurred up by a wave of activity and political ferments.\u00c2\u00a0 [&#8230;]<br \/>\n<\/em><em>This is why, to my mind, the single most important demand of the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Occupy Wall Street\u00e2\u20ac\u009d demonstrations is the restoration of Glass-Steagall.\u00c2\u00a0 [&#8230;]<br \/>\n<\/em><em>So that is the first step and of course if Obama&#8217;s not fired by then he&#8217;ll quit in disgrace, because Obama is completely committed to stopping Glass-Steagall.\u00c2\u00a0 [&#8230;]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, the single most important demand for Alex Jones is to &#8220;end the fed&#8221;. \u00c2\u00a0Actually, to tell the truth, if I had to rank my number one item out of &#8220;Occupy&#8221;, it probably would be &#8220;restoring Glass Steagall&#8221; &#8212; a tangible goal against a sea of both tangible and intangibles, of which Obama is not the figure &#8220;Standing in the way&#8221;. \u00c2\u00a0BUT then again&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/translate.google.com\/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=de&amp;u=http:\/\/www.solidaritaet.com\/neuesol\/2011\/39\/requiem.htm&amp;ei=W2qUTprmEoGqiAK6v9CaBQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=translate&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CCYQ7gEwAA&amp;prev=\/search%3Fq%3D%2522Was%2BMozart%2Bzu%2BObama%2Bgesagt%2Bh%25C3%25A4tte%2B%2522%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D710%26prmd%3Dimvns\" target=\"_blank\">let&#8217;s hear it from Helga<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><em>On Sunday, the 11th September, led the ensemble of the opera in San Francisco to commemorate the attacks of 11 September 2001\u00c2\u00a0 September 2001 before an audience of thousands in Golden Gate Park to Mozart&#8217;s\u00c2\u00a0Requiem.\u00c2\u00a0 Activists of the LaRouche movement before and after the performance distributed a leaflet, which conjured up the spirit of the past &#8211; was the headline: &#8220;What would Mozart say to Obama? &#8211; \u00e2\u20ac\u0153 &#8211; Back kick to save your soul! &#8216;&#8221; [&#8230;]<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Consider now Obama as a Leporello, who slavishly serves his master, hoping that it would give him according to &#8220;reward&#8221;.\u00c2\u00a0 Do you think that would be too far-fetched?\u00c2\u00a0 Remember how Obama crawled by before the Queen England and their recognition was begging for his slavish service to &#8220;save&#8221; their bankrupt banks and financial institutions with trillions of dollars, while America&#8217;s elderly, the sick, the unemployed and poor cast onto the scrap heap.<br \/>\n<\/em>Waiting for the Larouchies to run into the Occupy parks and wave the &#8220;What would Mozart say to Obama?&#8221; signs.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.minnpost.com\/severnsguntzel\/2011\/10\/13\/32390\/on_the_scene_with_occupymn_my_stories_and_yours\">Dateline Minnesota<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0The discussion is so orderly and focused on process that it took me 15 minutes of observation on Tuesday to realize they were discussing something rather explosive. Supporters of the controversial political activist Lyndon Larouche had\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jsguntzel\/status\/123828262404227072\" target=\"_blank\">propped up a giant poster of President Obama with a Hitler mustache<\/a>. &#8220;So we&#8217;re the Tea Party now?&#8221; one passerby quipped.<\/p>\n<p>Because the 9\/11 Truthers &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.balloon-juice.com\/2011\/10\/12\/lately-somethings-changed-that-aint-hard-to-define\/#comment-2822766\">permanent fixtures along with Larouchies<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em><em><a href=\"http:\/\/mailman.lbo-talk.org\/pipermail\/lbo-talk\/Week-of-Mon-20111003\/011891.html\">To be fair to the OWS, these Ron Paulites are an organized vanguard group\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/a><\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/mailman.lbo-talk.org\/pipermail\/lbo-talk\/Week-of-Mon-20111003\/011891.html\"><em>like the LaRouchies and are catching even much better organized rightwing\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><em>\u00c2\u00a0groups off guard. The Value Voters Summit this weekend was a prime\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/a><em><a href=\"http:\/\/mailman.lbo-talk.org\/pipermail\/lbo-talk\/Week-of-Mon-20111003\/011891.html\">\u00c2\u00a0gathering of evangelicals<br \/>\n<em>I\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/a><em><a href=\"http:\/\/mailman.lbo-talk.org\/pipermail\/lbo-talk\/Week-of-Mon-20111003\/011891.html\">think comparisons to the LaRouchies deserve to become a stock simile<\/a>.<\/em><\/em><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/wetheconservatives.com\/ows-just-letting-anybody-talk-these-days-if-they%E2%80%99re-commies\/\"> &#8220;Turnabout is fair play&#8221;<\/a>.<br \/>\n<em>At this point the Left starts pounding the table and shouting about Larouche Democrats and their habit of putting a Hitler mustache on Obama. Mostly so that you won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t hear the part about \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Larouche Democrats.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<br \/>\n<\/em>Sigh.<\/p>\n<p>Jonah Goldberg:\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/articles\/279460\/sorting-out-extremists-jonah-goldberg\">Note: That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not some random nut job pulled from his Lyndon LaRouche desk or tricked-out refrigerator box\/time machine. That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the communications director for the whole shebang, and his goal is to overthrow the government.Now, he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not advocating violence or dictatorship. No, he just wants the government to work on the same non-hierarchical, consensus-based, extremely deliberative form of direct democracy that they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re using down in Liberty Plaza. How that would work for some 300 million Americans remains a bit of a mystery<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The Larouchian role in the proceedings as always:\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.disinfo.com\/2011\/09\/do-you-speak-christianese\/\">I am actually pretty supportive of the anti-globalization movement, and no, that&#8217;s not what I am saying. the term &#8220;International Bankers&#8221; has long been known (and may be one of the best known) as a term that is used to mask &#8220;The Jews that run the world&#8221; thought pattern. Lyndon LaRouche was using it as a &#8220;Dog Whistle&#8221; in the early &#8217;70&#8217;s and you can prolly date it back to as far as the English Civil War (making reasonable decisions about language and it&#8217;s usage) if you really wanted to<\/a>.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.montereyherald.com\/letters\/ci_19002303?source=rss\">The Constitution protects free speech, even unpopular speech. The Constitution makes it possible for people like Ball to make erroneous claims that attribute disgusting left-wing Lyndon LaRouche messages to right-wing conservatism<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;Occupy&#8221; Movement as conspiracy for Global Elites &#8211;\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybell.com\/3044\/Evil-Occupies-Wall-Street\">thesis described as larouchian<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.personalliberty.com\/conservative-politics\/government\/waiting-in-the-wings\/\">Ralph Nader popped up next, although Ralph has already crossed the electoral Rubicon between \u00e2\u20ac\u0153A Campaign of Liberal Outrage\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Lyndon LaRouche.<\/a>\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Workers World Party:\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.workers.org\/2011\/us\/wall_street_0929\/\">The protest was politically inclusive and welcomed diversity. But when a right-wing group, followers of Lyndon LaRouche, tried to sing some patriotic songs, Aron Kaye, a longtime activist in New York, went up to them and told them, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153This isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t your demonstration \u00e2\u20ac\u201d get lost!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d They must have believed Kaye was speaking for a majority of protesters, as they did lose themselves<\/a>.<br \/>\nSee too:\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independentpoliticalreport.com\/2011\/09\/workers-world-party-youths-occupy-wall-street\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ricochet.com\/main-feed\/Occupy-MN-LaRouchies\">Dateline Minnesota<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/obama_large-minnesotaoccupylarou.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-9090 alignleft\" title=\"obama_large-minnesotaoccupylarou\" src=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/obama_large-minnesotaoccupylarou-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>TeaPartiers crashing the joint? Of course not.\u00c2\u00a0 LaRouchies, the Westboro Church of political gatherings. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d steamed everyone up, but they were trying to find a common ground. <em>You want Glass-Steagall? We want Glass-Steagall! You want an end to the Patriot Act? So do we!<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0But everyone had a problem with the Hitler mustache. I think <em>reductio ad adolpho<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0is the stupidest type of political placard, and just because the other side did it for eight years doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t mean it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s time for them to get a taste of their own medicine. (But still. <em>Snort<\/em>.)<br \/>\nA few people in the crowd got heated, because the Obama-Hitler poster was harshing the general mellow, and a facilitator quickly entered to defuse the situation. Behold: the kindergarten approach to quietening a crowd. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll give them this: it works. If embed doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t show up, watch<a href=\"http:\/\/a3.video3.blip.tv\/0280011525958\/Lileks-OccupyMNMeetsTheLaRouchies674.m4v?brs=2147&amp;bri=1.9\" target=\"_blank\">\u00c2\u00a0here.<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0It&#8217;s short &#8211; in fact I suggest that you hit the link.<\/p>\n<p>(Post recommended by <a href=\"http:\/\/ergonom3.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/12\/interesting-concepts-and-usage\/\">this Phelps watcher<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stiftungleostrauss.com\/bunker\/?p=5849\">Decent crowd, but it could have passed for a folk music festival aside from the Paulites and a small contingent of Larouchies.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newenglandpost.com\/2011\/09\/28\/pluribus-confusion\/\">Dateline New York City<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0Local supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon Larouche\u00c2\u00a0formed their own economic group. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I saw a disorganized rabble turn into actual working groups,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d one participant commented. Veterans of the New York City protest\u00c2\u00a0<strong>&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetakeaway.org\/2011\/oct\/10\/occupy-wall-street-grows-fourth-week\/\">Susan, I don&#8217;t know either, but I am pretty sure there are many other &#8220;nice&#8221; options. Ron Paul and La Rouche are of course &#8220;charming&#8221; possibility?\/reality?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/biglicknews.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/first-person-report_10.html\">Why is the Lamestream media not showing this image of a protester wiping his ass on a police car like they did the Obama Hitler signs at tea party gatherings?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/saltcitysinner.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/occupyslc-occupation-continues.html\">The &#8220;free school&#8221; has books available, and open time slots for people to expound on topics ranging from the history of the Fed to civil disobedience to whatever the LaRouchies devoted their five minutes to.I<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/sinkers.org\/stage\/?p=969\">It was mostly the usual suspects, for sure, but it was still great to see Our Side finally get off its ass and into the streets again. Despite all the talk about Teabaggers beginning to get involved, I only saw the usual smattering of LaRouchies and Paultards, who were largely ignored except by those in need of cheap laffs. Also, much to my delight, I spotted one \u00e2\u20ac\u201d count \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcem, one \u00e2\u20ac\u201d 9\/11 Tr00th freak in the crowd, his sign still demanding that someone \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Investigate WTC 7\u00e2\u20ac\u00b3.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/markmaynard.com\/?p=15778\">It may grow over time (as long as the LaRouchies don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t scare away too many people<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dankennedy.net\/2011\/10\/06\/catching-up-with-occupy-boston\/\">I have not been entirely on top of what&#8217;s going on, but I did hear that the <em>LaRouchies<\/em> have landed, as they do whenever there&#8217;s a large gathering. That, I would imagine, is the source of the anti-Semitism and homophobia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bluecollarphilosophy.com\/2011\/10\/communists-support-occupywallstreet-occupiers-in-los-angeles-pictures.html\">Dateline Los Angeles<\/a>:<br \/>\nWhat would \u00c2\u00a0a protest like this be without a LaRouche table? We should<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bluecollarphilosophy.com\/2011\/01\/larouche-democrats-compare-obama-to-hitler-at-the-post-office.html\" target=\"_blank\"> colonize Mars<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/photo.blogpressapp.com\/photos\/11\/10\/08\/s_3312.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"240\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/sinkers.org\/stage\/?p=969\">Despite all the talk about Teabaggers beginning to get involved, I only saw the usual smattering of LaRouchies and Paultards, who were largely ignored except by those in need of cheap laffs<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/motherjones.com\/mojo\/2011\/10\/occupy-wall-street-wisconsin-comes-washington\">As with any large gathering, there was no shortage of dissonant groups:\u00c2\u00a0Code Pink had a large enclosure in the center of the square, meshing its notorious anti-war message with a call for a halt on foreclosures.\u00c2\u00a0Towards the back, a band of LaRouchies had gathered to hand out literature explaining why President Obama is a lot like Hitler<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/sfcitizen.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/06\/glass-steagall-or-die-barack-obama-as-hitler-the-lyndon-larouchies-are-back-in-town\/\" target=\"_blank\">dateline San francisco<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0I don&#8217;t think they ever left, though.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.citypaper.com\/index.php\/2011\/10\/occupied-baltimore\/\">\u00c2\u00a0He laments with a laugh that the only people here with pre-made signs and leaflets seem to be the <em>LaRouchies<\/em>. Jeremy Batterson is leafleting a dozen feet away. He&#8217;s got a big sign that says \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Bring Back Glass Steagall,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d the Depression-era <strong>&#8230;<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.racedebate-msf.org\/forums\/showthread.php?t=5468\">They basically try to latch onto any major protest that takes place and try to make it their &#8220;movement&#8221;. It&#8217;s like the damn LaRouchies.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/slog.thestranger.com\/slog\/archives\/2011\/10\/04\/hey-look-the-racist-scumbags-are-still-at-it-with-their-stupid-signs\">Dateline Seattle:<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/1317757071-obamahitlermustache1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-9092 alignleft\" title=\"1317757071-obamahitlermustache\" src=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/1317757071-obamahitlermustache1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I said I had just been reading about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/checkpoint-washington\/post\/aulaqi-gets-new-designation-in-death\/2011\/09\/30\/gIQAsbF69K_blog.html?hpid=z1\" target=\"_blank\">Anwar al-Aulaqi.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The guy on the left went on: &#8220;He was an American! He hadn&#8217;t done anything! OBAMA KILLED HIM FOR HIS THOUGHTS!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I said, &#8220;No, I think he killed him because he was an al Qaeda operative.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The one on the left said, &#8220;He hadn&#8217;t done anything!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I said, &#8220;Except advise the Christmas Day bomber to wait until he was over Detroit to detonate his underwear, so he could <strong>kill<\/strong> as many innocent Americans as possible.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;For his <em>thoughts<\/em>!&#8221; the one on the left went on, not listening. &#8220;YOU COULD BE NEXT!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Considering I have no plans to join al Qaeda, I&#8217;m not that worried. The light changed and I crossed the street and bought a smoothie.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>Larouchies<\/em> could get together with Fred Phelps, and Charles Mudede, and form the perfect Trolling Machine.<\/p>\n<div id=\"BrowseComments-10209717-BodyText\">Out of all the fucking douchebags I have to deal with walking the sidewalks of Seattle, these people are by far the worst.<\/div>\n<div>Also, SAME GUY, from 2009:<br \/>\nSieg Heil 4-ever, you cwazy, cwazy LaRouchie<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/slog.thestranger.com\/slog\/archives\/2011\/10\/09\/its-a-lazy-sunday-at-occupy-seattle\">AND THEN CAME SUNDAY<\/a><\/div>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thestranger.com\/images\/blogimages\/2011\/10\/09\/1318202392-imag0601.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"I love these protesters. Theyre bracketing the LaRouchies and  calling them on their bullshit. They made my afternoon brighter. \" src=\"http:\/\/www.thestranger.com\/images\/blogimages\/2011\/10\/09\/thumb-1318202392-imag0601.jpg\" alt=\"I love these protesters. Theyre bracketing the LaRouchies and  calling them on their bullshit. They made my afternoon brighter.\" width=\"250\" height=\"141\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div>I love these protesters. They&#8217;re bracketing the LaRouchies and calling them on their bullshit. They made my afternoon brighter.<\/div>\n<div>The LaDouchies look annoyed. It&#8217;s delicious.<\/div>\n<div>Wait&#8211; El Douchies are nuts but he&#8217;s got a sign saying &#8220;Restore Glass-Steagall&#8221;, which is not nuts. This is disconcerting.<\/div>\n<div>I miss the tents and the tar and feathering of the LaRouchies<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/members.boardhost.com\/hands_up\/msg\/1317779442.html\" target=\"_blank\">Dateline Houston<\/a><span style=\"font-family: verdana,arial;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/members.boardhost.com\/hands_up\/msg\/1317779442.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/a> <em>They hated the British, Enron, and thought you were a loser if you didn&#8217;t sit around with them and listen to mozart. Don&#8217;t even think about wasting your time with a band. I would say they are a borderline cult. <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/publicola.com\/2011\/10\/03\/turning-into-a-big-deal\/\">Fun to see the Lyndon LaRouche wing of the Democrat Party has found a catchy moniker to pull in the media<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetakeaway.org\/2011\/oct\/03\/nypd-and-wall-street-protesters-clash\/\">In my eyes, it wasn&#8217;t a left protest, more like Ron Paul\/<em>La Rouche<\/em> crowd.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.citypaper.com\/index.php\/2011\/10\/occupied-baltimore\/\">Dateline Baltimore<br \/>\n<\/a>Jeremy Bat\u00c2\u00adter\u00c2\u00adson is leaflet\u00c2\u00ading a dozen feet away. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s got a big sign that says \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Bring Back Glass Stea\u00c2\u00adgall,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d the Depression-era law that sep\u00c2\u00ada\u00c2\u00adrated deposit tak\u00c2\u00ading banks from invest\u00c2\u00adment banks and insur\u00c2\u00adance com\u00c2\u00adpa\u00c2\u00adnies. Promi\u00c2\u00adnently near the bot\u00c2\u00adtom of the sign is the name Lyn\u00c2\u00addon LaRouche.<br \/>\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been against this all along,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Bat\u00c2\u00adter\u00c2\u00adson says of the per\u00c2\u00adpet\u00c2\u00adual pres\u00c2\u00adi\u00c2\u00adden\u00c2\u00adtial can\u00c2\u00addi\u00c2\u00addate, con\u00c2\u00advicted tax felon, and self-proclaimed inven\u00c2\u00adtor of the Strate\u00c2\u00adgic Defense Ini\u00c2\u00adtia\u00c2\u00adtive. He hands out not one but three leaflets. They are full of ref\u00c2\u00ader\u00c2\u00adences to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153the bank\u00c2\u00adrupt British impe\u00c2\u00adr\u00c2\u00adial finan\u00c2\u00adcial sys\u00c2\u00adtem,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153fixed exchange rate credit sys\u00c2\u00adtem,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and \u00e2\u20ac\u0153the orig\u00c2\u00adi\u00c2\u00adnal United States Hamil\u00c2\u00adton\u00c2\u00adian credit system.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/johnwsmart.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/02\/occupied\/\">I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not sure about these Occupy protests yet. They are pleasing on first blush if only because<em> finally<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0people other than the tea party are in the streets. Drudge focused on protests in 5 cities early Sunday, then doubled back to link to an Alex Jones rant condemning the protests. \u00c2\u00a0(Those kids aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t Ron Paul Robots! Those kids have never even heard of Lyndon Larouche!) The blow back had begun apparently <\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thephoenix.com\/Blogs\/phlog\/archive\/2011\/10\/02\/what-occupymiami-learned-from-occupyboston-learned-from-occupywallstreet.aspx#ixzz1ZjlA93pa\">They need to tell the LaRouche piggybackers to get lost \u00e2\u20ac\u201cTHEY&#8217;RE THE ASSHOLES WHO HANG POSTERS OF BARACK OBAMA WITH A HITLER MOUSTACHE \u00e2\u20ac\u201c<\/a><\/p>\n<div>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<\/div>\n<div>Larouchie steps into climate debate and&#8230;<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/barnabyisright.com\/2011\/10\/02\/angry-national\/#comment-3207\">Sorry, I thought I must have been reading the Onion or something, you know\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 Lyndon LaRouche?\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 Charles Darwin a fraud &amp; third rate intellectual?<\/a><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/calltodiscernment.blogspot.com\/2011\/09\/beware-of-alternative-news-disinfo.html\">Fulford are Lee Emil Wanta, the EU Times, Sorcha Faal and Russia Today (RT television: a KGB connected outlet that puts out a lot of truth in order to sucker in conservatives with periodic disinformation&#8211;much like Lyndon <em>LaRouche<\/em>) <strong>&#8230;<\/strong><\/a><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/danieljmitchell.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/28\/a-real-life-welfare-queen\/\">Please don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t let Lyndon LaRouche see this post.<\/a><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/news.goldseek.com\/GoldSeek\/1318514700.php\">Always in good hands with &#8220;Photo courtesy Larouche<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0Campaign.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.noquarterusa.net\/blog\/62049\/hot-off-the-presses-video-of-chris-christies-speech-today-at-reagan-library\/\">Alice Wolf blames Chris Christie for solar panels:<\/a><br \/>\n<em>My intention is to be a la Rouche democrat.\u00c2\u00a0 Mr la Rouche has a terrible opinion of liberalism, he explains that it is the idea behind fascism.\u00c2\u00a0 If that is correct then hopefully not.\u00c2\u00a0 The green movement the environmentalists have good ideas but the manner in which they wish to see them put into practice isn&#8217;t powerful enough to sustain an enmormously growing world population very easily.\u00c2\u00a0 Also, to deny nuclear power means that we have to give up space exploration which would be tragic.\u00c2\u00a0 However, thank you for even reading my comment, I think\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0NO QUARTER\u00c2\u00a0is truly awesome.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 THANKS AGAIN BEST REGARDS IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS<br \/>\n<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/24\/obama-makes-move-to-recapture-jewish-support\/\">She&#8217;s everywhere, ain&#8217;t she?<\/a><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Ulsterman UPDATE. \u00c2\u00a0The &#8220;White House Insider&#8221;. \u00c2\u00a0Confirming the Larouche storyline, and <a href=\"http:\/\/theulstermanreport.com\/2011\/09\/28\/white-house-insider-%E2%80%9Cthey-are-crumbling-in-amongst-themselves%E2%80%9D-2\/\">sending messages &#8220;From the Inside<\/a>&#8221; to&#8230;<a href=\"http:\/\/drkatesview.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/30\/about-that-memo\/\" target=\"_blank\"> this<\/a> and that. \u00c2\u00a0Yep. \u00c2\u00a0Obama. \u00c2\u00a0Crumbling. \u00c2\u00a0He&#8217;ll be deposed any minute now.<br \/>\nAnd so it goes&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.drkentshow.com\/?p=2008\" target=\"_blank\">I agree with Lyndon LaRouche that the President of the United States is clinically insane and we are in deep trouble<\/a>.<br \/>\n<\/em><em>The failure to launch the measures needed to push President Barak Obama into expulsion from office brings the trans-Atlantic financial system ever-nearer to a total breakdown of the present system. [&#8230;]\u00c2\u00a0 The order of the day, is not to &#8220;try,&#8221; but to succeed. The order of the day is to neutralize the power of Barack Obama and the Hitlerian fantasies of Dick Cheney, and do that in time to enable not only the realization of Glass- Steagall, but to supplement the reenactment of the original Glass-Steagall with the [&#8230;]\u00c2\u00a0 Only the appropriate measures to remove Barack Obama from office stands between you and the Hitler-like seizure of power which was planned by the same Wall Street, House of Morgan breed, which had been attempted as a fascist takeover against President Franklin Roosevelt.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Alice Wolf is the <a href=\" http:\/\/my.firedoglake.com\/members\/alicewolf\" target=\"_blank\">FiredogLake Larouchie<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/my.firedoglake.com\/members\/westerner\/\" target=\"_blank\">As is Westerner<\/a>:<br \/>\n<em>\u00c2\u00a0It may not occur, but\u00c2\u00a0LaRouche\u00c2\u00a0is warning of this extremely dangerous threat of coup d&#8217;etat by the British and when he says British he isn&#8217;t talking about the Beatles. <\/em>\u00c2\u00a0Sure he is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<div>The Bad Old Days, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.torontosun.com\/2011\/09\/29\/aids-doc-great-but-hard-to-watch\">the Lyndon Larouche Legacy:<\/a> \u00c2\u00a0Was there really a time when a Lyndon Larouche\u00c2\u00a0<strong>Larouche<\/strong> could nearly pass draconian quarantine legislation, and when much of the population wanted HIV patients <strong>&#8230;<\/strong><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.alicebtoklas.org\/2011\/10\/40th-article5\/\">Fourth, Alice fought with the community to support people with AIDS, particularly in fighting against California\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s LaRouche Initiative, (Proposition 64, 1986), which proposed to quarantine people with AIDS. Like the Briggs Initiative a decade earlier, the LaRouche Initiative was an attack on our community that failed, and also became an organizing point for our community to rally together. Alice was a veteran organization that helped organize politically to stop that attack<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Losing <a href=\"http:\/\/factnet.org\/vbforum\/showthread.php?12941-LaRouche-continued-6&amp;p=426721#post426721\">t<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rickpotvin.com\/2011\/09\/source-dr.html\">he Larouche Cryonics Movemen<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/factnet.org\/vbforum\/showthread.php?12941-LaRouche-continued-6&amp;p=426721#post426721\">t<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rickpotvin.com\/2011\/09\/source-dr.html\">\u00c2\u00a0somewhat<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/factnet.org\/vbforum\/showthread.php?12941-LaRouche-continued-6&amp;p=426721#post426721\">: \u00c2\u00a0<\/a><em>Amazingly, Bhat has shown that the standard view of the solar system is wrong. This is unbelievable yet real stuff. Incredible. Beyond my ability to put into words&#8230; so I&#8217;ll let Dr. Bhat do it here&#8230; download the pages and read them with me over the next month. I&#8217;ve send a copy to Rolf Witzsche who is slightly resistant at this point but open. Larouche people are not even open&#8230; which makes me suspect them of collusion now..<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/factnet.org\/vbforum\/showthread.php?12941-LaRouche-continued-6&amp;p=426721#post426721\"><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/factnet.org\/vbforum\/showthread.php?12941-LaRouche-continued-6&amp;p=426721#post426721\">\u00c2\u00a0Funniest line of the week<\/a>:<em>\u00c2\u00a0 My first impression of the Larouchies was that they were the heroes of campus.<\/em><br \/>\nInterestingly enough, that&#8217;d be Point.\u00c2\u00a0 Here&#8217;s Counterpoint:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thephoenix.com\/Boston\/life\/127330-how-to-grow-pot-in-your-dorm-room\/\">Cultivating weed in your college pad or dorm room is dumber than volunteering for\u00c2\u00a0<em>LaRouche<\/em>, and riskier than joining the Boston Church of Christ<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/forum.davidicke.com\/showthread.php?p=1060276252\" target=\"_blank\">But then there&#8217;s this as a runner-up<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0Because one ends-time prognosis deserves another!:<\/p>\n<p><em>Even Lydon LaRouche says in his message from October 8, 2011 that we are in the final days and even hours of the world system as we have known it. I do not agree, at least hope some of what he sees coming will not be as violent as he predicts; but I totally concur that this is the time when everything will come to a head. It is, after all, the final 7th day in this 9th wave.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> happy final day of the 9th wave to all 9th wave followers<\/em><\/p>\n<p>LaRouche normally makes some good economic sense but his obsession about &#8220;British&#8221; plots is quite tiresome. We all know that the financial-democratic matrix is <em>made up of a Judaic Anglo-American \u00c3\u00a9lite but LaRouche still thinks he is in 1776 against King George III&#8217;s redcoats. The USA is the empire now!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I used to think LaRouche made some sense, also his wife thingy talks a lot of sense.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> But this speech is currently to me a huge disappointment, full of historic inaccuracies and simply nonsense.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Charlemagne for example, was first frankish &#8216;roman&#8217; emperor, but rome had long split up. In a way, the EU is a succession. Trying to paint him as an anti-roman hero is really not fitting. first and foremost Charlemagne fought bloody campaigns and wars against the other tribes, such as Saxons, like his grandfather Karl Martell fought saxons, frisians and Bavarians.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>is this one of those joke interviews?<\/em><br \/>\n<em> or is it possible that this guy is an insider and that this is done just to see what the reaction is?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Weird thing about that &#8220;even Larouche&#8221;.\u00c2\u00a0 He&#8217;s been saying this for the last 50 years, so&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.filamnation.com\/2011\/09\/whats-wrong-with-the-world\/\">what<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p><em>LaRouche added that this is a 1923 style collapse on a global scale and the political leadership of America is acting like the \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcdumb\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Germans from that period. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153They have not learned nothing from that lesson. Nearly everyone in leading positions today has flinched and backed off from the necessary measures. They are not prepared to defend civilization. The system is over.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d, LaRouche concluded.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/armstrongdelusion.com\/2011\/10\/07\/twenty-one\/#comments\">One person who reminds me of HWA is Lyndon Larouche, who has been predicting the complete collapse of the world economy for at least 40 years now. When we did have an economic downturn in 2007-8, his followers claimed this as \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcproof\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 of his \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcpredictions.\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 HWA\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcprophecies\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 include the wonderful ones from the mid-50\u00e2\u20ac\u00b2s, that Hitler was either 1) not dead, but holed up in the Antarctic with \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcsecret Nazi weapons\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 or 2) dead, but about to be miraculously raised from the dead by the Pope. No wonder PCG, UCG, LCG etc. get upset if you look up back issues of Plain Truth, Good News etc. Just like Larouchies don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t like to be reminded what \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcLyn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 said back in the 60s &amp; 70s<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.landoverbaptist.net\/showthread.php?t=70463\" target=\"_blank\">here&#8217;s the Landover Baptist Church<\/a> &#8212; parody by the way.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/translate.google.com\/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=de&amp;u=http:\/\/jankeitsch.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/26\/die-zeugen-larouches\/&amp;ei=gRKBTpHjNKbKiAKwxviWDQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=translate&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=8&amp;ved=0CFUQ7gEwBw&amp;prev=\/search%3Fq%3Dlarouche%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D809%26tbs%3Dsbd:1%26tbm%3Dblg\">BUSO election results are in<\/a>, and:<\/p>\n<p><em>Actually, the BueSo is politically insignificant.\u00c2\u00a0The election results are available nationwide at approximately 0.1 percent and also local successes can not show the organization.\u00c2\u00a0Yet it manages to show presence in many cities in Germany.\u00c2\u00a0Also in Bochum, is regularly represented on campus and in the inner city with little stalls.\u00c2\u00a0On self-painted billboards share the world with her party members (see Introduction).\u00c2\u00a0Sometimes amusing, sometimes frightening or scary stupid, what is there to read.\u00c2\u00a0The hobby-horse of the party&#8217;s financial crisis.\u00c2\u00a0Years ago, warned B\u00c3\u00bcSo top guru Lyndon LaRouche before the collapse of financial markets.\u00c2\u00a0In recent publications, the gloating over the apparent confirmation of their theories is hard to read and reminds you feel young, proud to announce that you have known a particular band long before they are &#8220;cool&#8221; and &#8220;hot&#8221; was.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hm. \u00c2\u00a0an interview with Walter Jones. \u00c2\u00a0I haven&#8217;t had a chance to hear it yet, but : \u00c2\u00a0Note to congress men:\u00c2\u00a0 yes, you do interviews with a lot of different organizations, and frankly I want congress members to go on a lot of different sources, up and down the spectrum.\u00c2\u00a0 But please Avoid this one. 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