{"id":8899,"date":"2011-09-11T18:55:39","date_gmt":"2011-09-12T01:55:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=8899"},"modified":"2011-09-12T09:19:44","modified_gmt":"2011-09-12T16:19:44","slug":"so-webster-tarpley-beats-out-gerald-celente-by-1-what-about-ladouche","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2011\/09\/11\/so-webster-tarpley-beats-out-gerald-celente-by-1-what-about-ladouche\/","title":{"rendered":"Tarpley versus Celente for 9\/11 Truther Supremacy.  Larouche sidelined."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/apple.copydesk.org\/2011\/09\/08\/birthdays-for-thursday-sept-8\/\">Happy<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/nashua.patch.com\/articles\/5-things-you-need-to-know-today-sept-8-18\">Birthday<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Lyndon_LaRouche&amp;diff=449111173&amp;oldid=449111048\">to<\/a> you&#8230; Star Trek.<\/p>\n<p>I am a bit surprised not to see more 9\/11 Truth droppings in regards to Larouche. \u00c2\u00a0Maybe I&#8217;ll have to wait a day to see this percolate.<br \/>\n<em>On the eve of the 10th anniversary commemorations of the 9\/11 atrocity,\u00c2\u00a0LaRouchePAC-TV posted a blockbuster video which rips the mask of<\/em>f [&#8230;]<br \/>\nWoot!<br \/>\nDifferent time, maybe: \u00c2\u00a0I do think 9\/11 Truth was a big &#8220;in&#8221; in getting youth recruits during the Bush Administration. \u00c2\u00a0As these things do, the 9\/11 Truth bits continue to float about in chunks. \u00c2\u00a0This pops up again, dropped in, from the Larouche &#8220;got it figured out&#8221; finale of 2009:<\/p>\n<p><em>Elements of the story have already been reported in EIR, and Larouche instinctively pointed to the true nature of the operation, in a now-famous radio interview that he gave to the Salt Lake City-based syndicated radio host Dr. Jack Stockwell.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blendzpolitik.blogspot.com\/2011\/09\/911-ten-years-later-video-trailer.html\"><em><\/em>OR&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Eight months before the September 11, 2001 attacks, Lyndon Larouche\u00c2\u00a0forecast that the United States was at high risk for a Reichstag Fire event, an event that would allow those in power to manage through dictatorial means an economic<\/em> collapse or something.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/drkatesview.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/09\/running-as-a-lie\/\">This is notable<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><em>Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Thursday speech was a negative, blaming, angry, rant\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6enough to once again raise Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s inherent disability under the Twenty-fifth Amendment.\u00c2\u00a0 Lyndon LaRouche, among others, calls for his immediate removal from office.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m going to be hearing Herman Cain speak today and if I have a chance to ask him a question I will ask him the BIG # ONE QUESTION!!!<\/em><br \/>\nBecause there are several 9\/11 Truther comments that follow (nobody biting on Herman Cain?) , as well a Birther Summit item on the sidebar &#8212; just to get the big doing do of Bush Administration in with the big doing do of the Obama Administration.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/dailynational.com\/2011\/09\/04\/top-ten-big-lies-we-are-told-about-9-11\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=top-ten-big-lies-we-are-told-about-9-11\">How many secrets stayed secret there? Idiots from the far right of Lyndon\u00c2\u00a0<em>Larouche<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0to the far left of Rosie O&#8217;Donnell need to shut up about this one. There were a lot of casualties associated with 9-11.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Well, more officially than &#8220;some person with a blog&#8221;, it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/nmen.org\/senior-iranian-diplomat-911-was-planned-and-carried-out-by-american-neocons\/\">9\/11 Truth from Senior Iranian Diplomat<\/a><br \/>\n<em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153The first stage of this interaction was the attack on Afghanistan. Some researchers, by relying on lots of evidence, believe that America itself is the cause behind the event[s] of 9\/11. LyndonLaRouche, a former American presidential candidate\u00c2\u00a0<strong>..<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>And we have an<a href=\"http:\/\/leoweekly.com\/news\/truther-fiction\"> interview with Perry Clark here<\/a>, the top elected Larouchie in the United States.<\/p>\n<p><em>But no matter how true Perry Clark\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s heart is, facts are facts. He has plenty to say about the condition of the working class in Louisville that should be heard, but the more he talks about LaRouche and Hitler and controlled demolitions, the less credibility he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s bound to have.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Hey. \u00c2\u00a0This is interesting <a href=\"http:\/\/www.veteranstoday.com\/2011\/09\/04\/cant-quantify-crazy-but-where-are-you-now-lyndon-larouche\/comment-page-1\/#comment-313393\">dissenting view<\/a>.<br \/>\n<em>\u00c2\u00a0We know about LaRouche and his zionist-apologist whackos vis-a-vis 9\/11, but who is this imbecille Farrell??<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong><\/strong><\/em>Hm.<br \/>\nHenry Makow:\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.henrymakow.com\/zionists_create_anti-semitism.html\">According to a report by Lyndon\u00c2\u00a0<em>Larouche&#8217;s<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0Executive Intelligence Review, the ADL is a lobbying and intelligence arm of the Rothschilds. If Abe Foxman is an indication, anti-Semitism is caused by the behavior of certain Jews.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In other news&#8230; NAWAPA Is the Only Viable Solution&#8230; except for Glass Steagall.<br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>CAMPAIGN NEWS.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Diane Sare, LaRouche Democratic candidate in New Jersey, delivered this address to a joint town hall meeting held along with Rachel Brown in Brookline, MA on August 31, 2011. We play her address in full as part of today\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s New Presidency series. Diane speaks about the emotion needed to muster the courage to fight a war, using quotations from US history.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Wow! \u00c2\u00a0Diane Sare and Rachel Brown teaming up! \u00c2\u00a0Could this be a preview of the 2016 Presidential ticket? \u00c2\u00a0But again&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><em>LaRouche\u00c2\u00a0and the LPAC Basement Team warned you earlier this year that we are now in a period where you are going to need more than a weather man to tell you which way, and why, the wind blows.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><\/em>Is calling it the &#8220;Basement Team&#8221; just a means of making sure nobody takes it seriously, so they can continue to act &#8220;in the shadows&#8221; (ala Dick Cheney)?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/brianbakker.wordpress.com\/2011\/08\/28\/the-deafening-sounds-of-silence\/\">Another interpretation takes the form of\u00c2\u00a0a video clip on the LaRouche Political Action Committee web site. Presented\u00c2\u00a0by Oyang Teng of the LaRouche Basement Research Team. Suggesting these\u00c2\u00a0experiments\u00c2\u00a0have proven the fallibility of current climate models, he says that, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6rather than revise current models, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d probably be better to scrap them altogether and rebuild climate science on a whole new basis of actual experimental work.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Wikipedia Comedy Gold!<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Lyndon_LaRouche&amp;diff=448517603&amp;oldid=446411479\">Silly things the Larouchies tried to insert into wikipedia<\/a>.<br \/>\nExtremist to Leftist. \u00c2\u00a0Conspiracism into &#8220;Opposing&#8221;. \u00c2\u00a0And most impressively and hilariously.<br \/>\n&#8220;conspiracy theorist, fascist, and anti-Semite, and have characterized his movement as a cult&#8221; turns into &#8220;threat to mainstream views&#8221;.<br \/>\nMaybe he&#8217;s referencing this:<br \/>\n&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidmixner.com\/2011\/09\/five-dangerous-presidential-candidates.html\">5 Dangerous Presidential Candidates<\/a>&#8220;. \u00c2\u00a0He&#8217;s number 3.<br \/>\nOR&#8230;<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.timesrepublican.com\/page\/content.detail\/id\/542694\/National-crisis.html?nav=5004\">Dan Schmitt, Marshalltown Central Iowa<\/a><br \/>\n<em>The British Monetary System is dead. [&#8230;]\u00c2\u00a0 The reason that most people do not know of this is that Mr. LaRouche is not allowed public press. Isn&#8217;t that a shame in this country of freedom of speech. All of this could happen at any moment or it could all be lost, we need our country back.<br \/>\n<\/em>Really. \u00c2\u00a0Free Speech issue that everyone ignores him? \u00c2\u00a0Okay.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Resident Anthropolist&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449571330&amp;oldid=448771709\">wiped out the entire list of &#8220;connection with other groups&#8221;<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0And <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449572092&amp;oldid=449571330\">shortened its current ideological placement<\/a>.<br \/>\nJayen466 did quite a wolloping through the field of &#8220;History of Harrassments&#8221;.<br \/>\n(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449832204&amp;oldid=449813791\">cur<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449813791&amp;oldid=449813644\">prev<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;oldid=449813791\">12:15, 11 September 2011<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"User:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User:Jayen466\">Jayen466<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"User talk:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User_talk:Jayen466\">talk<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\">contribs<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0(112,117 bytes)\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/LaRouche_movement#Harassment_of_politicians\">\u00e2\u2020\u2019<\/a>Harassment of politicians:\u00c2\u00a0rmv unsourced (and redundant))<br \/>\n(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449832204&amp;oldid=449813644\">cur<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449813644&amp;oldid=449813438\">prev<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;oldid=449813644\">12:14, 11 September 2011<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"User:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User:Jayen466\">Jayen466<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"User talk:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User_talk:Jayen466\">talk<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\">contribs<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0(112,270 bytes)\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/LaRouche_movement#Harassment_of_politicians\">\u00e2\u2020\u2019<\/a>Harassment of politicians:\u00c2\u00a0rmv Kissinger, Stevenson already mentioned above)<br \/>\n(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449832204&amp;oldid=449813438\">cur<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449813438&amp;oldid=449813317\">prev<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;oldid=449813438\">12:12, 11 September 2011<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"User:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User:Jayen466\">Jayen466<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"User talk:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User_talk:Jayen466\">talk<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\">contribs<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0(112,457 bytes)\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/LaRouche_movement#Harassment_of_politicians\">\u00e2\u2020\u2019<\/a>Harassment of politicians:\u00c2\u00a0rmv redundancy, already clearly stated)<br \/>\n(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449832204&amp;oldid=449813317\">cur<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449813317&amp;oldid=449812519\">prev<\/a>) 12<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;oldid=449813317\">:10, 11 September 2011<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"User:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User:Jayen466\">Jayen466<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"User talk:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User_talk:Jayen466\">talk<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\">contribs<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0(112,797 bytes)\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/LaRouche_movement#Harassment_of_politicians\">\u00e2\u2020\u2019<\/a>Harassment of politicians:\u00c2\u00a0rmv redundancies)<br \/>\n(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449832204&amp;oldid=449812519\">cur<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;diff=449812519&amp;oldid=449584487\">prev<\/a>) 12:0<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=LaRouche_movement&amp;oldid=449812519\">3, 11 September 2011<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"User:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User:Jayen466\">Jayen466<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"User talk:Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User_talk:Jayen466\">talk<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0|\u00c2\u00a0<a title=\"Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Special:Contributions\/Jayen466\">contribs<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0(112,948 bytes)\u00c2\u00a0(<a title=\"LaRouche movement\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/LaRouche_movement#Alleged_violence_and_harassment\">\u00e2\u2020\u2019<\/a>Alleged violence and harassment:\u00c2\u00a0shortening, rmv redundancies, name member)<\/p>\n<p>One more item. \u00c2\u00a0For Webster Tarpley, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Webster_Tarpley&amp;diff=447509734&amp;oldid=447509612\">a piece of bathroom graffiti<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0It adds nothing to World Culture, and is very crass and low-brow, so we know it can&#8217;t be a Larouchie:<br \/>\n<em>\u00c2\u00a0Tarpley is also widely known within the conspiracy community for his unusually large penis, standing a tall 13&#8221; when fully erect, beating Gerald Celente by a mere 0.1&#8221;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, this looks like a good competitor for wikipedia.<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Lyndon_LaRouche<br \/>\nLooks like it produces a better larouche article, at least.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>The wikipedia battle pops into full view in the dailykos comments here. \u00c2\u00a0I particularly the reference to the &#8220;Nasty Duckling&#8221;, which is an apt quotation that the Larouchies tried to get rid of a while ago.<\/p>\n<p>POST OFFICE TOUR COVERED BY DAILY KOS DIARIST&#8230; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2011\/09\/09\/1014943\/-Preventing-Crazy-from-going-Mainstream-Tea-Time-with-the-Larouchies?via=spotlight\">receives triple digits of response<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I tried again.<br \/>\n&#8220;How many people died in the holocaust?&#8221;<br \/>\nI figured he&#8217;d be able to regurgitate something like that.<br \/>\n&#8220;Um, Two hundre mil&#8230;.&#8221;<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t let him finish the answer. \u00c2\u00a0I probably should have. \u00c2\u00a0I asked him a different question.<br \/>\n&#8220;How many people does Lyndon Larouche say died in the holocaust?&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8220;I don&#8217;t know.&#8221;<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t make an argument for Obama, nor did I argue against the offensive imagery in the sign. \u00c2\u00a0I stayed there for at least an hour. \u00c2\u00a0I asked them to tell me why Larouche thinks Raisa Gorbachev attempted to assassinate him in his home.\u00c2\u00a0 <strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>Q. \u00c2\u00a0What do they get taught in &#8220;Camp Larouche?&#8221; A. \u00c2\u00a0&#8220;Dump Obama&#8221;<br \/>\nIt was pretty obvious what they are taught. \u00c2\u00a0They are taught that their bread and butter is going to be senior men. \u00c2\u00a0Every time they see a man who is older than 60 walk out of the post office, they immediately accost him.<br \/>\n&#8220;Are you ready to dump Obama?&#8221;<br \/>\nMaybe they get a bite. \u00c2\u00a0Maybe they don&#8217;t.<br \/>\nMy strategy was to get them to advocate for a candidate. \u00c2\u00a0They couldn&#8217;t. \u00c2\u00a0They simply don&#8217;t know anything about the insane man who is earning money off of their ignorance.<br \/>\n[&#8230;&#8230;]<br \/>\nI asked them to justify their support for their guy. \u00c2\u00a0I asked this over and over and over. \u00c2\u00a0I can be really annoying, just ask my kids.<br \/>\nEventually, one of them just said, &#8220;He&#8217;s not going to win! Okay!&#8221; \u00c2\u00a0 I thought that was \u00c2\u00a0pretty good &#8220;get.&#8221; I made sure that other people were aware of his opinion.<br \/>\nHe tried to film me. \u00c2\u00a0My job requires me to stand up in front of crowds of 300 people and do public speaking with Q and A being a main part of the job. \u00c2\u00a0As he filmed me, I repeated facts about Larouche. \u00c2\u00a0He tried to act as if I were afraid of him. \u00c2\u00a0I was slightly agitated, but not overly so. \u00c2\u00a0 He eventually stopped filming.<br \/>\nHe insisted that I was breaking the law by being in his space. \u00c2\u00a0As you no doubt are aware, by making their advocacy public, they are open to as much criticism as I can possibly dish out. \u00c2\u00a0I let them know this fact.<br \/>\n&#8220;I&#8217;m calling the police!&#8221;<br \/>\nHe tried to compare the harassment he was receiving to the scenario of a single woman who is being targeted by someone. \u00c2\u00a0 I told him that the current scenario would make more sense if the woman were a Democratic Party representative, and she was standing there making arguments for the Dems, but was unwilling to answer any questions regarding the political positions of those Dems.<br \/>\nHe asked me to leave. I told him that I&#8217;d leave when I felt like it. \u00c2\u00a0They had come to my neighborhood, and I was doing what any right thinking person should do. \u00c2\u00a0I was protecting my neighborhood from them.<br \/>\nThis is the best part of all.<br \/>\nHe called the police. \u00c2\u00a0I told the guy that what he did was an unfortunate mistake.<br \/>\n1. \u00c2\u00a0&#8220;Not only are you wrong about free speech,&#8221; I said, &#8220;but you also made it so that I am forced to stay here! \u00c2\u00a0I can&#8217;t leave when you&#8217;ve called the police. \u00c2\u00a0That would be irresponsible!&#8221; \u00c2\u00a0(In this case, 1. \u00c2\u00a0is plenty. \u00c2\u00a02 is not required.)<br \/>\nSo I waited. \u00c2\u00a0They failed over and over and over. \u00c2\u00a0I asked them if I could have some of their newsletters. \u00c2\u00a0They refused to share them with me. \u00c2\u00a0I asked them about the magazine they had. \u00c2\u00a0They told me that it cost 5 dollars. \u00c2\u00a0I looked at it. \u00c2\u00a0It said, &#8220;5.00 contribution.&#8221;<br \/>\nI guessed that they weren&#8217;t able to sell it, because they would break some campaign laws. \u00c2\u00a0I told them that it was probably a legal error on their part to tell me that it costs money to purchase. \u00c2\u00a0I told them, &#8220;Really, I could just take that, right?&#8221;<br \/>\nHe told me that I was being an asshole. \u00c2\u00a0I agreed. \u00c2\u00a0I told the one with the beard, &#8220;Yes, you&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m being an asshole, but being an asshole is not illegal.&#8221;<br \/>\nEventually, the police came. \u00c2\u00a0The officer huddled with the Larouchies. \u00c2\u00a0The Larouchies complained that I was interrupting their discussions.<br \/>\nI noticed afterwards that the police had parked their cruiser in front of the &#8220;Huge Meat Sandwich&#8221; store up the road. \u00c2\u00a0I can only assume that they weren&#8217;t all that interested in the Larouchies, but more likely they wanted a sandwich.<br \/>\nThe officer walked over to me. \u00c2\u00a0He clarified that I was interrupting them. \u00c2\u00a0I was fully confident that what I was doing was within the bounds of the law. \u00c2\u00a0The officers confirmed that.<br \/>\nI felt like rubbing it in a little bit, so I made sure to clarify a couple things for myself and the Larouchies. \u00c2\u00a0I asked how far into their space I could go. \u00c2\u00a0I asked if it was necessary for me to have an official looking table to act as a counterprotest. \u00c2\u00a0No, of course not.<br \/>\nThe police went to get their sandwiches.<br \/>\nIn the entire time I stood there with the Larouchies, they were able to get one person to fill out a form. \u00c2\u00a0Whether they would have gotten more, or whether that guy actually signed it as a statement of support for them, because I was harassing the larouchies&#8230; \u00c2\u00a0I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\nHere&#8217;s what I said before I left them to their own devices:<br \/>\n&#8220;Well, it looks like you&#8217;re failing pretty well all by yourselves, so I&#8217;ll let you guys at that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>COMMENTSPALOOZA<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In &#8220;Breakfast of Champions,&#8221; Kurt Vonnegut has a great sentiment:<br \/>\n&#8220;Bad ideas and bad chemicals are the yin and yang of madness.&#8221;<br \/>\nIn the context of the book, the bad chemicals are already going on, and it&#8217;s just the one bad idea that is needed to motivate someone towards horrific actions.<br \/>\nBad chemicals are going to happen. \u00c2\u00a0I figure it&#8217;s my job to do my best to mediate the number of bad ideas that are available for public consumption. \u00c2\u00a0Or, at the very least, it&#8217;s important for people to see that any bad idea will have direct opposition.<\/p>\n<p>. If one talks to them; the first thing they say is, vote for larouche and he&#8217;ll legalize marijuana. My response always is; <em>&#8220;how bad do you think I want to get high&#8221;?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I note that alongside the Holocaust denial stuff, he denounces jazz (that crazy jazz music!) as a dangerously &#8220;Aristotelian&#8221; influence on impressionable young minds. Who knew that jazz was an insidious tool of &#8220;the oligarchy?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I agree with you, but that&#8217;s not why I applaud your confrontational stance with the Larouchies rather than liken them to the Christians and champion their contention with you. I don&#8217;t like the Larouche supporters because they are a bunch of sneaky, opportunistic jerks who do nothing except piss everyone off with their claptrap. Everyone with half a brain knows that Larouche himself is a nut job, but we could easily ignore him were it not for the annoying persistence of his delusional supporters.<\/p>\n<p>My local Democratic organization is infested with a squad of these cretins who attend the meetings, but don&#8217;t shell out the money to join. We have to tolerate them because it&#8217;s a public meeting, but we don&#8217;t let them address the group! One of our bylaws is that you must be a member to speak.<\/p>\n<p>The other weekend a local Jewish fellow who happens to have an African-America wife just snapped and began bellowing at the LaRouchies, telling them to take down their damn signs. \u00c2\u00a0Quite an uproar resulted. \u00c2\u00a0Eventually someone a half-block away called the police who came in and calmed down the local citizen. \u00c2\u00a0The LaRouchie&#8217;s response? \u00c2\u00a0They hung up another Obama as Hitler poster. \u00c2\u00a0It had worked for them, so they were playing to their strength.<\/p>\n<p>Are those young zealots paid for their Saturday morning efforts? \u00c2\u00a0or are they really the morons they appear to be? \u00c2\u00a0Is there no way to get them off public property?<\/p>\n<p>I \u00c2\u00a0once actually read LaRouche&#8217;s book on pitch and it is the oddest combination of numerology and some sort of music-of-the-spheres morality tale about tuning. \u00c2\u00a0Of course, the fact that A=440 is an accepted industrial standard and that changing it at this late date would be impossibly expensive does not even come up in his fat, pretentious, utterly insane book.<br \/>\nGoodness! And I just went out&#8230;&#8230;..and bought a very nice (used) Moeck Rottenburg Alto, Ebony hardwood&#8230;. A=440Hz. Was I really serving Satan?!?! Who knew?!?!<\/p>\n<p>Wow! Dude takes his classical music seriously.<br \/>\nThe same article goes on to note that by Larouche&#8217;s account, Vivaldi doesn&#8217;t have the &#8220;fundamental emotion,&#8221; whatever the heck that is. Presumably, those sun-dappled Italians were insufficiently weighty for our Platonic hero. Maybe Bruckner was more his speed.<br \/>\nPlato believed that music was overtly dangerous, and must be regulated by the state. He was worried that certain modes would be too decadent, and insufficiently warlike; their use would corrupt the good citizens of the Republic. I&#8217;m guessing that that&#8217;s the derivation of Larouche&#8217;s ideas&#8230; such as they are.<br \/>\nSo Plato was more of a Def Leppard fan instead of maybe Iron Maiden.<\/p>\n<p>They freak when I take their picture.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 At first they maintain their standard welcome face, but their eyes start to wiggle when I hold up my cellphone.<\/p>\n<p>The LaRouche organization is actually only a fundraising scheme. They exist only to funnel money back to LaRouche. The point of those Obama as Hitler posters is to capture some pocket change from the Obama haters. If they could make money using Obama as Jesus posters, they would use those.\u00c2\u00a0 I know, because I have some in-laws who are hard core LaRouchies.\u00c2\u00a0 I think I&#8217;d prefer wingnut in-laws, actually.<\/p>\n<p>a nasty duckling who grew up to be\u00c2\u00a0a nasty duck.<\/p>\n<p>I saw the idiots outside of our post office. (Here in Marin County, ferchrissake, like, get a <strong>clue<\/strong>! \u00c2\u00a0There are hardly any places in the whole country more &#8220;blue&#8221; than here. \u00c2\u00a0Duh.) \u00c2\u00a0There were two of &#8217;em, like your encounter.<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t see the &#8220;Obama as Hitler&#8221; sign until I got out of the car. \u00c2\u00a0 I stood staring at them for a long moment (about 20 yards away), and they starting fidgeting expectantly, like, either I was coming to talk to &#8217;em, or to &#8220;harass&#8221; &#8217;em. \u00c2\u00a0They couldn&#8217;t tell which.<br \/>\nI was so itching to go and do what you did, otto. \u00c2\u00a0But I went on about my p.o. business. \u00c2\u00a0I stared at &#8217;em again when I came back out, and they started fidgeting again, looking back at me.<br \/>\nI sat in the car on the curb for some long moments, trying to decide if it was worth it to me to go &#8220;engage&#8221; &#8217;em. \u00c2\u00a0 While I pondered, an attractive, petite senior came up to &#8217;em and started talking with &#8217;em. \u00c2\u00a0I couldn&#8217;t hear the conversation, but I was two-thumbs-up when I saw her step back to take their picture with her cell phone. \u00c2\u00a0(Musta been a Kossack! \ud83d\ude09 \u00c2\u00a0They seemed uncomfortable with her photographing them, but they tried to be stoic about it. \u00c2\u00a0 I could see her angling to make sure she got the LaDouche sign and the Obama-as-Hitler sign in the photo with &#8217;em. \u00c2\u00a0Tee hee.<\/p>\n<p>Way back in 1972-3, LaRouche ran &#8220;National Caucus of Labor Committees&#8221; or NCLC. \u00c2\u00a0They were nominally ultra-leftist. \u00c2\u00a0In Washington, DC, they targetted co-op bookstores popular as left-wing projects in those days. \u00c2\u00a0I was involved in one near Dupont Circle.<br \/>\nThey sought to seize control of the bookstores and convert them to fronts for their organization. We resisted and ejected the NCLC stooges (multiple times as they kept returning).<br \/>\nOn my walk home from one such &#8220;struggle session&#8221;, I was jumped and beaten senseless by the NCLC accolytes dressed in black.<br \/>\nThe degree of thought control the LaRouchian establish over their pawns is criminal and dangerous.<\/p>\n<p>Past experience with Larouchies myself. At Washington National, the table was up and the pitchguys and gals were singing out about how Real Americans ought to Feed Jane Fonda To The Whales!&#8221;, one of the then current Larouchie hot buttons. So while i was waiting for my plane, i pulled out a magic marker and the cardboard back from a legal pad and made a little sign that read &#8220;Feed Lyndon Larouche to Jane Fonda!&#8221; and vamped up and down in front of their table, which for some reason got the three of them mad, so the young lady started calling me filthy names. and on the front of their table was the then-latest, pre-Giant Hydropower Thing slogan, &#8220;Nuclear Power is Safer Than Sex!&#8221; So I just had to ask the young lady whose identity was apparently under stress, &#8220;When was the last time you had sex with a fast breeder reactor, and which part was it you were particularly involved with?&#8221; good thing my plane was called before the police had to get into it&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Sounds like one of my numerous run-ins. But usually they tell me the police they will call is one of their brothers-in-law or something. They tried physical intimidation once, pushing up nose-to-nose with me, but I guess me backing away and flipping their table over went into the hive-mind as not a productive way to go for them.<br \/>\nAnyway, they never came back to my post office after that.<br \/>\nThe funniest things are LaRouche saying &#8220;Well, I warned President Kennedy that..&#8221; and posters of himself pasted next to Dr. King, as if he was connected with them.<\/p>\n<p>His grinning zombies were handing out these extraordinary brochures in Boston in the early 1980s, all full of railing about the gold standard and beam weapons. \u00c2\u00a0He seriously was advocating not just the Star Wars program, but beam weapons in <strong>space<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>These guys are so annoying, wherever they pop up. I even saw them in Germany a couple of months ago and was horrified. They looked so normal and nice, and the signs didn&#8217;t say anything about Lyndon LaRouche, but when I walked up to talk to them they were just as nasty as their American counterparts. It&#8217;s like they&#8217;re a magnet for all the obnoxious and mean-spirited people of the world, and I&#8217;m just glad there aren&#8217;t enough of them to ever gain traction.<\/p>\n<p>At first it looked like a totally homegrown movement to protest the Euro and reintroduce the Deutsche Mark. I was curious.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6186\/6130372489_dc60a4f519.jpg\" alt=\"P1070757\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/>But when I walked by the table again later and a guy waved me to come talk to him, it turned out that their nice sounding People&#8217;s Solidarity Movement (bueso.de) was just a front for hawking the LaRouche cult.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6080\/6130372757_350c1fc3c6.jpg\" alt=\"P1070897\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/>It took about 10 minutes of a progressively deteriorating conversation until the LaRouche name was dropped, and not surprisingly, that&#8217;s when he got absolutely nasty and started calling me names.<\/p>\n<p>I read the article at your link about Larouche&#8217;s support for NAWAPA. \u00c2\u00a0He seems endearingly indifferent to an Canadian input in this idea. \u00c2\u00a0Maybe he knows it wouldn&#8217;t be supportive. \u00c2\u00a0Heh.<br \/>\nThe reason he selected the plan that already existed is only because it&#8217;s less work than making a new one.<br \/>\nHe knows that it stands absolutely no chance at happening, but he needs something to say he&#8217;s for. \u00c2\u00a0Otherwise, he can&#8217;t manage any donations or sucker people to work for him.<\/p>\n<p>Last time I saw a trio of Larouchies was at a John Edwards (yeah, I know) event in NYC. They started asking him dumbass questions about the Bilderbergers and all that crap. Me and a couple of other people started hooting them down, but I have to say that they were damn near as good as Fred Phelps and his lot. One guy in particular with a black belt in passive-aggressiveness was just begging for a beatdown, and I was about to oblige him when I managed to get ahold of myself and realized what was happening.<\/p>\n<p>Over here in the 26th LD, we had them show up to our March Dems meeting, where they wound up in the same discussion group as the Kisap County Dems&#8217; chair. As you can probably imagine, another verbal takedown quickly ensued. There were three of thm and one of him, and they kept trying to interrupt him, which was another mistake, because he called them on rudeness in front of everybody, then skillfully attacked and dismantled everything they said. You do not mess with the Kitsap County Chair \ud83d\ude42 .<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re getting paid&#8221;.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>I guess that explains something. \u00c2\u00a0On the other hand, you can have the same sort of discussion with e.g. Trotskyites, who are emphatically NOT getting paid and have no more understanding of what they&#8217;re advocating. \u00c2\u00a0They&#8217;re just agin what&#8217;s happenin&#8217; now.<\/p>\n<p>Cliche, but it must be all about getting back at your parents.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>I love a political conversation and good-spirited eye poking as much as the next guy; but I have too little tolerance for outright idiocy to waste time on the Larouchies. \u00c2\u00a0I just know I&#8217;d quickly devolve into &#8220;you guys are nuts!&#8221; territory if I started up with them.<br \/>\nYou give me incentive, however, for maybe giving it another try in the hopes of getting the police called. \u00c2\u00a0I love dealing with the police on a courteous basis when I&#8217;m on solid ground legally. \u00c2\u00a0Even the young and inexperienced rookies seem to have a passing understanding of what the Bill of Rights prevents them from doing.<\/p>\n<p>They occasionally set up outside Trader Joe&#8217;s<br \/>\nwhich is two doors down from the P.O. here. When I have the energy to do more than yell &#8220;Morons&#8221; at them, I make sure I mention how old he is and his criminal past. Loudly. You might want to make that part of your script.<\/p>\n<p>As a presidential candidate, LaRouche has to file quarterly reports with the FEC. \u00c2\u00a0They&#8217;re a hoot!<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/query.nictusa.com\/cgi-bin\/fecimg\/?C00171538\">Every quarter since July 2008<\/a>, he has sent them <a href=\"http:\/\/query.nictusa.com\/pdf\/772\/28991392772\/28991392772.pdf#navpanes=0\">exactly<\/a> the <a href=\"http:\/\/query.nictusa.com\/pdf\/009\/11990042009\/11990042009.pdf#navpanes=0\">same<\/a> 3200-plus page <a href=\"http:\/\/query.nictusa.com\/pdf\/503\/11931785503\/11931785503.pdf#navpanes=0\">report<\/a>, changing only the covering period and filing date. \u00c2\u00a0In it, he says he has $6,253.76 cash on hand and $1,218,817.34 in debts. \u00c2\u00a0Most of those debts are zero-interest loans from contributors, which have been carried over from &#8230; wait for it &#8230;<br \/>\n<big><strong>1 9 8 4 \u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0!!<br \/>\nSurely more than a few of those lenders are long dead. \u00c2\u00a0Every quarter, he also details the very same never-paid charges for office rental, ad buys, telephone, canvassing, attorneys, and so on.<\/strong><\/big><\/p>\n<p>In earlier years, the reports were photocopies of a huge pile of hand-written pages. \u00c2\u00a0Before 2008, he also reported on &#8220;expenditures subject to limitation&#8221;, which totalled $3,847,912.14 for many years.<\/p>\n<p>[NOTE: \u00c2\u00a0those links are PDFs]<\/p>\n<p>Wish I could do what you did\u00c2\u00a0 but I don&#8217;t think I could maintain a straight face long enough.<\/p>\n<p>ah, larouchies.\u00c2\u00a0 meatspace Internet trolls.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kmareka.com\/2011\/09\/09\/otto-takes-on-the-larouchies\/\">MORE FROM ANOTHER BLOGGER<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Crazy going mainstream is the story of this generation, but more dangerous when crazy goes undercover. I saw the Larouchies at the health care town halls in Rhode Island, and they were playing up to the Tea Party people big time. Middle aged white people were carrying around the Obama\/Hitler magazines as if they thought that image was just fine. So many are ready to cry Nazi every time they get a parking ticket, perhaps the discourse has been polluted beyond saving, and the people really believe that Hitler was infamous for declaring that no one should be denied health care for being poor.<br \/>\nOtto noticed that the Larouchies were tacking right with the older folks, and left with the younger ones. Same can of worms- different branding. [&#8230;]<br \/>\nBut some of what I see on the left-wing sites is so hateful in a personal way, and came on so early, that I suspect chameleons like Lyndon Larouche as a source. Extremes tend to go full circle and meet at the fringes. Not all the left wing anger, even when over the top and personal, is insincere. Some of it, though, is coming from the extreme right and other ideologies, packaged to appeal to lefties and progressives.<\/p>\n<p>At one Town Hall I confronted a young black man who was carrying a stack of magazines with the Hitler\/Obama image. Did that man know anything about Black History, or about WWII and the real Hitler whose atrocious regime lives on in the memories of people yet alive? Would the good people of Warwick, who sat in that Town Hall fanning themselves with Larouche\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s magazine have signed on as allies of Larouche if they knew anything about the man?<\/p>\n<p>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m deep in end of life issues and government health care these days, seeing my father through Hospice. The nasty accusations that talking about mortality is the next step to \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcdeath panels\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 is such a destructive lie. Without government health care, my parents, like millions of Americans on Medicare, would face a financial crisis as well as a health crisis. And during the debate, the loudest voices were spreading wild rumors from unclear sources, to the benefit of business as usual.<\/p>\n<p>We used to encounter Larouchites on airport patrol at O\u00e2\u20ac\u2122Hare( we checked west coast and southwestern flights for illegal aliens early mornings)in the early 70\u00e2\u20ac\u00b2s.They were obnoxious to put it mildly.<br \/>\nThey occasionally would find out where people lived if the person gave them a hard time by tracing the plates(easy back then)and harrass them at home.<br \/>\nOne afternoon I came home from an early shift and my wife had a wman in the house explaining an anti-drug \u00e2\u20ac\u0153community\u00e2\u20ac\u009dprogram-something about the name of the group rang a bell-I asked her flat out if she was a Larouche supporter and when she said yes,I threw her out(not physically).It was a snaeaky approach in my opinion.<br \/>\nOne prominent Larouhite turned out to be a former member of Rockwell\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s American Nazi Party-one Roy Frankhouser from Pennsylvania.<\/p>\n<p>I saw one of their tables at a rest stop in New Hampshire when they were on some conspiracy theory that witches were hexing the nation. I wanted to go up to the guy and wave my pentagram at him, but my husband held me back. Just as well, there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no reasoning with them.<br \/>\nBut where they find disciples\u00e2\u20ac\u201cthat\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s what I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d like to know. The crew at the West Warwick town hall were a bunch of nice looking kids, and they were actually singing some classical music quite beautifully as they handed out their hate literature.<br \/>\nFlinging around Nazi accusations not only debases our current politics, it disrespects all the living and dead who suffered that history.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.athens-times.com\/economy\/in-red-183000-businesses-risk-losing-225000-jobs\/\">And so it goes<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0GO TO THE LAROUCHE WEBSITE AND SEE THE SOLUTIONS IT IS ALL THERE OBAMA IS A LIAR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED NOW THERE IS NO HOPE FOR MANKIND IF THIS BUM STAYS IN OFFICE HE IS WORSE THAN HITLER.<br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Remembering different political activists. \u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/web.mgnmiami.com\/2011\/09\/09\/in-a-citys-plague-years-caring-for-their-own\/\">Mr. Boneberg, a hippie from Buffalo who briefly lived on a commune, served as executive director of Mobilization Against AIDS, one of the first such activist organizations, and became something of a political firebrand. He remembers the divisive issue of whether to close the bathhouses, which had been considered \u00e2\u20ac\u0153core institutions\u00e2\u20ac\u009d of the city\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s gay culture, at the epidemic\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s height. He was a leader of the successful campaign to defeat an AIDS quarantine ballot initiative proposed by Lyndon LaRouche.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Whoever wins in the Anthony Weiner race, this perennial candidate will be missed. \u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/strangeherring.com\/2011\/09\/09\/ny-congressional-9th-and-the-smell-of-fear\/\">If I could, and the Prohibition Party was not running a candidate, I&#8217;d resort to Plan B: write in \u00e2\u20ac\u0153The nice lady who helps my at the Stop N Shop.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d She has been a candidate in more races than Eugene V. Debs, Harold Stassen, Lyndon Larouche.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Webster Tarpley:\u00c2\u00a0 He is a former Lyndon\u00c2\u00a0<em>Larouche<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0Democrat and almost all of his recommendations are right out out of\u00c2\u00a0<em>Larouche&#8217;s<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0playbook. I&#8217;m talking about the global maglev train system, moon &amp; Mars colonization, 1000 hospitals etc \u00e2\u20ac\u201c all\u00c2\u00a0<em>Larouche&#8217;s<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0ideas&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/local\/va-court-to-consider-whether-to-toss-incest-conviction-of-former-king-confidant-who-has-died\/2011\/09\/05\/gIQAjOC23J_story.html\">Va. court to consider whether to toss incest conviction of former King confidant who has died<\/a><em>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Bevel was the architect of the 1963 Children\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Crusade in Birmingham, Ala. At the time of Mills\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 abuse, he was working closely with the Virginia-based organization of political extremist Lyndon LaRouche.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=D1xFVh7m-1s&amp;feature=player_embedded\">Dr. Deagle and Harley Schlanger<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/presstv.com\/detail\/197326.html\">Steinberg on Iran TV<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Who&#8217;s he being compared to now:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.redstate.com\/streiff\/2011\/09\/08\/ron-paul-is-crazy\/\">There is no way to describe this comment but to call it as it is: totally bug-eyed crazy. Crazy that you can smell. Crazy with its own ZIP Code. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t care what Ron Paul polls he has no more business in a GOP debate than Lyndon LaRouche has in a Democrat debate<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/stevedeace.com\/news\/iowa-politics\/grading-the-gop-debate\/\">\u00c2\u00a0Lyndon Larouche called, and he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not even sure why Huntsman got so much screen time<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The Guardian criticizes Obama:\u00c2\u00a0 &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/cifamerica\/2011\/sep\/08\/barack-obama-job-creation-plan\">New Deal Or No Deal<\/a>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/cifamerica\/2011\/sep\/08\/barack-obama-job-creation-plan\"><br \/>\n<\/a><em>Paul, for his part, subscribes to the fringe view that recessions have nothing to do with aggregate demand at all, but rather are caused by structural misallocations of capital: there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s actually plenty of money lying around, we just can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t find it. Mainstream economists on all sides of the spectrum give this theory about as much credence as they do Lyndon LaRouche\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s theories on the Queen of England\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s control of the international drug trade.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/patterico.com\/2011\/09\/05\/the-hypocrisy-of-obama-and-the-left-part-7439\/#comment-843764\">It might could be the\u00c2\u00a0<em>LaRouchies<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0that Hoffa is worried about. It never hurts to be clea<\/a>r.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.therightscoop.com\/drunk-ron-paul-fan-arrested-on-national-geographic\/\">I guess one difference could be that Ron Paul can hide the crazy a lot of the time, whereas\u00c2\u00a0<em>LaRouche&#8217;s<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0nuttiness was always on full display\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 ;).<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/bigjournalism.com\/pjsalvatore\/2011\/09\/04\/sound-bite-for-the-day-big-journalisms-dana-loesch-on-abcs-this-week\/\">. Yes Ron Paul has his good points but he is not the only one, and having acolytes dissing everyone else makes him look too much like Lyndon\u00c2\u00a0<em>Larouche<\/em>. Study<em>Larouche<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0if you want to understand why acolytes are<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/uppitywis.org\/blogarticle\/labor-day-workers-not-politicians\">Then there&#8217;s the example of Lyndon LaRouche, a certifiable mad man who ran for president as a Democrat many times, yet had ideas that were not at all in keeping with Democratic Party principles or platforms. LaRouche made Rick Perry look like a wise, progressive, and thoughtful man. But, hey, LaRouche called himself a Democrat, so we should all believe him. Just like we should all believe that the conservative, GOP-leaning sheriff of Milwaukee is a Democrat, just because he always runs on that ticket, just because that&#8217;s the best way to win a MIlwaukee County race for sheriff.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.veteranstoday.com\/2011\/09\/04\/cant-quantify-crazy-but-where-are-you-now-lyndon-larouche\/\">I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d kinda like to have a good time again. Seriously, where is Lyndon LaRouche when you need him? Not that he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d be much help, but what the hell, can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t quantify crazy\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6<br \/>\n<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/thedefeatists.typepad.com\/apoplectic\/2011\/09\/just-about-the-time-you-think-its-safe-to-come-out-of-the-bunker.html\">see too.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.leftcoastrebel.com\/2011\/09\/racism-as-defined-by-left.html\">Not racist, and here&#8217;s a list of<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0presidents\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com\/2011\/09\/racism-as-defined-by-left.html\">and presidents I&#8217;ve criticized<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0who are white&#8230;\u00c2\u00a0 Must be a Harold Stassen supporter, as he&#8217;s not on the list.<\/p>\n<div id=\"IDComment-CommentText189273117\"><a href=\"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/radio\/2011\/09\/01\/pat-buchanan-7\/#IDComment189273117\">Buchanam, Paul , Nader and Larouche are of the few rational rational people left in the american politics.- The combined action of masons and media with the israelis at the top are the true despotic rule that has to be overcomed, otherwise, a nuclear conflict would be a certain possibility in the near future, Depopulation and World ruling with no worshiping God its the ultimate goal to achieve by Israel, Russia its the biggest stumbling block in her designs and the cherry on top of the cake its to demolish the Catholic Church.-<\/a><\/div>\n<div>Rick Perry &#8212; Fred Thompson and Barry Goldwater&#8217;s Lovechild &#8211;\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/social\/AsISaid\/rick-perry-fred-thompson-_b_943236_105966091.html\">Throw in the seeds of Pat Robertson and Lyndon Larouche into the mix as well<\/a>.<\/div>\n<div>!)\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2011\/09\/01\/1012465\/-Boy-oh-boy-Dont-mess-with-Ron-Paul-supporters!-(first-diary-yikes\">Compare with Ron Paul supporters at daily kos:<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 (LaRouchies by zonk&#8221;<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2011\/08\/31\/laugh-at-the-libertarian\/\">and all the other sick fucks who congregate around the fusionist movement) are so widely accepted within libertarianism as to be published at Reason.com, while the global warming denialists of the left, the LaRouchies<\/a><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/lakecountyeye.blogspot.com\/2011\/08\/goodnight-irene.html\">Ten Douches who can beat Barack Obama<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Number 4.\u00c2\u00a0 Still being beaten by Harold Stassen.<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/loudcry.org\/sda\/archives\/2102\">This is a different Larouche, right?<\/a><br \/>\n<em>LaRouche, along with the charismatic movement, and some Baptists believe in the seven-year end time tribulation. A secret rapture, etc.\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/div>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Something I&#8217;m puzzling over a tad.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thenews.pl\/1\/9\/Artykul\/53280,Former-deputy-PM-Lepper-buried-after-suicide\">Although an autopsy found that there was no third party involvement in his death last Friday \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Lepper was found hanging in his Warsaw office \u00e2\u20ac\u201c an investigation is currently under way into the circumstances which led to the suicide<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So, this political figure in Poland killed himself. \u00c2\u00a0A Nationalist figure, achieved some measure of success, than fell out of favor and had corruption issues. \u00c2\u00a0I wouldn&#8217;t really care, except &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>From the Larouche Movement: \u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/larouche-danger.com\/html\/poland.html\">Using as a pretext the so-called Lepper issue (which falsely claimed that Andrzej Lepper, the leader of Samoobrona, was politically built up and financed by the Schiller Institute.)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Wikipedia:\u00c2\u00a0 Polish newspapers have reported that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.associatepublisher.com\/e\/a\/an\/andrzej_lepper.htm\">Andrzej Lepper<\/a>, who leads the populist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.associatepublisher.com\/e\/s\/sa\/samoobrona.htm\">Samoobrona<\/a> party, was trained at the Schiller Institute and has received funding from LaRouche, though both Lepper and LaRouche deny the connection. [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.tau.ac.il\/Anti-Semitism\/asw2001-2\/poland.htm\">10<\/a>][<a href=\"http:\/\/www.larouchepub.com\/pr_lar\/2001\/011228poland_lies.html\">11<\/a>]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Strikes me as probable, though I&#8217;m guessing something like &#8212; the Larouchies latched onto him and claimed his success as steps toward Larouchism, and they found each other useful here or there. \u00c2\u00a0Something like that&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/translate.googleusercontent.com\/translate_c?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;prev=_t&amp;rurl=translate.google.com&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http:\/\/www.polskatimes.pl\/aktualnosci\/438865,sikorski-od-razu-pomyslalem-ze-lepper-popelnil-samobojstwo,id,t.html\">Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said in an interview with Onet.pl that &#8230; [&#8230;]<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0It was the only chance to learn about strange international connections Andrzej Lepper. Z Instytutem Schillera The Schiller Institute (pro-Russian think-tank, which was linked to Self Defense &#8220;- ed) on the one hand and the various communities in the East szemranymi the other &#8211; said the head of the MFA.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The links with the Institute of Self Defense Schiller wrote, among others. &#8220;Polityka&#8221;. &#8220;Politics.&#8221; Co to za instytucja? What kind of institution?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>It was the only chance to learn about strange international connections Andrzej Lepper.\u00c2\u00a0 The Schiller Institute (pro-Russian think-tank, which was linked to Self Defense &#8220;- ed) on the one hand and the various communities in the East szemranymi the other &#8211; said the head of the MFA.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The links with the Institute of Self Defense Schiller wrote, among others.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 IS opinion about what the U.S. has sent one of the central trade union &#8220;Solidarity&#8221; (IS then wanted to establish contacts with &#8220;S&#8221;, the unions offered trips to seminars to luxury hotels in Brazil and in the exotic islands).<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211; Schiller Institute, a bizarre and dangerous group, like all organizations associated with Lyndon LaRouche&#8217;em (his head &#8211; ed.)\u00c2\u00a0 Often try to conceal their true nature. . Present themselves as defenders of workers, and strive to damage the nascent democracies in Central and Eastern Europe &#8211; they wrote.\u00c2\u00a0 As a result of the letter &#8220;S&#8221; IS rejected the proposal.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>It seems that it IS agentura Moscow circles that do not want entry into Polish, Czech and Hungary to NATO and the EU &#8211; said in 1999, the informants&#8217; Policy. &#8221; W Unlike the &#8220;S&#8221; IS Lepper constantly worked and frequented her seminars.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Make sense of this last item what you may.<br \/>\nIt moves on&#8230; Will Helga Zepp get media coverage now?<br \/>\n<em>Euro-Critic Wilhelm Hankel on German National Television\u00c2\u00a0&#8230;\u00c2\u00a0which reflects the growing unrest in the country on the euro issue\u00e2\u20ac\u201da breakthrough that should, however, be followed by another, even bigger one: a prime-time television appearance of at least several minutes by Helga Zepp-LaRouche.<\/em><br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>MOVEMENT MOVES FORTH WITH LETTERS AND POST OFFICE TOURS<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/politicalvelcraft.org\/2011\/09\/06\/union-bosses-call-it-quits-with-democrat-party-obama-indebting-the-american-dream\/\">No, I can&#8217;t figure out what the Glass Steagall Resolution has to do with Larouche either.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fratching.com\/showthread.php?t=5058\">Dateline Outside the Bank<br \/>\n<\/a>Who the hell is this guy? His cult was singing and parading outside the bank yesterday holding signs depicting Obama as Hitler (in this town, I&#8217;m surprised none of them got their asses kicked). Not only that, the loons with the posters and fliers were actually grabbing people as they entered the bank; security and the police were called after mom was the 4,785th person to complain. I didn&#8217;t see the aftermath (I kinda wanted to see if they&#8217;d claim the right to free assembly); on my way home the singers and sign-carriers were gone but they were still yelling at people from a table with a PAC banner (which they had been forced to move closer to the alley).<\/p>\n<p>His platform is apparently &#8220;Fuck everyone, especially the Jews. Please excuse me while I scream in your face from 2 inchs away about you being a faggot until you, quite rightfully, beat the shit out of me so I have an excuse to sue you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Picture the WBC but without the religious slant and even more batshit insane (if it&#8217;s even possible) and you have LaRouche.<br \/>\n&#8220;Cult&#8221; seems to be the best term as anyone with an IQ above room temperature and an ounce of rational thought wouldn&#8217;t give the loon the time of day.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/karenschreck.com\/blog\/?p=395\">Dateline One Horse Town with a Dairy Queen, Illinois<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here they were again\u00e2\u20ac\u201dthose advocates for Lyndon LaRouche, a man and a woman intent on giving out pamphlets, taking in signatures, and talking to anyone who\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d listen.\u00c2\u00a0 There were about five people listening yesterday, engaging in what seemed to be supportive conversation.<br \/>\nMy daughter and I stared open-mouthed at President Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s mustachioed face.\u00c2\u00a0 Was it my imagination, or had all the color been washed from his skin?\u00c2\u00a0 How had he turned such a palid, <em>mein kampf<\/em> gray?\u00c2\u00a0 It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s amazing what a stubby black caterpillar of facial hair can do to a person.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Something had happened to Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s eyes too.\u00c2\u00a0 I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d never seen them so glazed and vacant, so empty.<br \/>\nI got out of the car.\u00c2\u00a0 My daughter stayed where she was, cracking the car door.\u00c2\u00a0 I could feel her watching as I walked past the stand, the little crowd.\u00c2\u00a0 As I passed I heard a man\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s voice, one of the crowd:\u00c2\u00a0 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Just get big shotgun, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s what I say.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d\u00c2\u00a0 People laughed. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>I held out my hands\u00e2\u20ac\u201d<em>stop<\/em>.\u00c2\u00a0 The man stopped.\u00c2\u00a0 He was keeping the required distance from the post office steps, too, I suppose.<br \/>\nI said, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I respect your right to freedom of speech, but what you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re doing here is spreading hate.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<br \/>\nThe man smiled.\u00c2\u00a0 His smile showed teeth.\u00c2\u00a0 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Thank you for sharing that,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he said, as he turned away, leaving me standing there, sweating in the heat.<br \/>\nWe were both so civil.\u00c2\u00a0 The man used such a nice verb\u00e2\u20ac\u201d<em>I shared, he shared, we shared<\/em>.\u00c2\u00a0 So why was I so shaken?<\/p>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailyreporter.com\/communities\/coldwater\/x1413006728\/2-push-LaRouche-for-president\">Dateline Jackson<\/a>, Florida:<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/coldwatermichigancardtable.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-8919 alignleft\" title=\"coldwatermichigancardtable\" src=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/coldwatermichigancardtable-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><em>The women had a flyer on six \u00e2\u20ac\u0153LaRouche Democrats,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and on a Wednesday event in Jackson at the community college Potter Center.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153The crisis we face today is beyond a mere financial crisis, it is a crisis that threatens nothing short of adding mankind to the list of species gone extinct,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d the literature said.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/brookline.patch.com\/articles\/five-things-you-need-to-know-today-august-31-14\">Rachel Brown and Diane Sare,\u00c2\u00a0LaRouche candidates for U.S. Congress<\/a> are hosting a\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/brookline.patch.com\/events\/town-meeting-and-classical-concert-with-rachel-brown-and-diane-sare\">town meeting and classical concert<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0at the\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/brookline.patch.com\/listings\/brookline-main-library\">Brookline Main Library<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0tonight. From the event page, &#8220;The only way to reverse 40 years of economic and cultural insanity is to spark and foster the human creative spirit, which in the past made this nation great.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Dateline <a href=\"http:\/\/hollywood.patch.com\/articles\/congressman-xavier-becerra-holds-town-hall-protestor-ejected\">Hollywood<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/eaglerock.patch.com\/articles\/protestor-ejected-from-congressmans-town-hall-2\">Eaglerock<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><em>However, Fred Coronel, an activist from Glendale, used the town hall session as an outlet to express his rage over the mere existence of the super congress.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Coronel shouted across the auditorium that Becerra was &#8220;playing games&#8221; with the public by participating in the super congress. Coronel also adamantly declared that the super congress was &#8220;unconstitutional.&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n<em>He was dragged out of the hall by several LAPD officers, after refusing Becerra&#8217;s request that he not interrupt the town hall&#8217;s question and answer session.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>After the meeting, Coronel stood in front of the New Open World Academy and distributed campaign literature for the LaRouche Political Action Committee, a group formed by perennial presidential candidate Lydon LaRouche.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Will they ever produce another Rachel Brown Moment? \u00c2\u00a0Only time will tell.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Happy\u00c2\u00a0Birthday\u00c2\u00a0to you&#8230; Star Trek. I am a bit surprised not to see more 9\/11 Truth droppings in regards to Larouche. \u00c2\u00a0Maybe I&#8217;ll have to wait a day to see this percolate. On the eve of the 10th anniversary commemorations of the 9\/11 atrocity,\u00c2\u00a0LaRouchePAC-TV posted a blockbuster video which rips the mask off [&#8230;] Woot! 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