{"id":8404,"date":"2011-06-26T22:05:52","date_gmt":"2011-06-27T05:05:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=8404"},"modified":"2011-06-27T11:05:57","modified_gmt":"2011-06-27T18:05:57","slug":"diane-sare-congressional-candidate-for-new-jerseys-fifth-congressional-district-compares-being-ejected-from-town-hall-meeting-to-the-fate-of-the-victims-at-auschwitz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2011\/06\/26\/diane-sare-congressional-candidate-for-new-jerseys-fifth-congressional-district-compares-being-ejected-from-town-hall-meeting-to-the-fate-of-the-victims-at-auschwitz\/","title":{"rendered":"Diane Sare, Congressional Candidate for New Jersey’s Fifth Congressional District, Compares Being Ejected from Town Hall Meeting to the fate of the victims at Auschwitz"},"content":{"rendered":"

or it might be Chris Christie’s budget cuts.\u00c2\u00a0 Either one doesn’t make all that much difference to the total effect.
\nHitler has long turned into something of largely an item for farce, something that happens with time which has its good and bad points.\u00c2\u00a0 It is how the Larouchies can float the “Obama — Hitler” image (with countless precedents) with a mere ripple of attention, even while they whole-heartedly — and insanely — believe in their equivalence.\u00c2\u00a0 For every Henry Gasparin<\/a> — with an understandable disgust for the equivalence — there’s the rest whos reaction is on par with the Saturday Night Live skit on “What if Superman had grown up in Germany<\/a>?”\u00c2\u00a0 (Ironic, of sorts<\/a>.)<\/p>\n

Get into some specifics, and we may end up less inured, less de-sensitized to this insanity.\u00c2\u00a0 Here we see the Larouchies, and more specifically the New Jersey local and the Diane Sare for Congress campaign, moving the Crazy Dial Up to 11<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Christie townhall attracts LaRouchers, leaves via helicopter. Why run for president? Living it<\/a>. Flash mobs started out as a fresh, fun\u00c2\u00a0 idea that sought to spread joy with their unexpected entertainment, but lefties are so totally ruining it<\/em> with their lame copy-cat protests.<\/a> According to New Jersey.com, <\/strong>the protesters were La Rouchies.\u00c2\u00a0 Fair Lawn police ejected from the building a small LaRouche group, including a woman who wants to run for Congress in the 5th District, while they were trying to sing their anthem<\/a>. <\/em>Protesters escorted out of Gov. Chris Christie’s town hall event are linked to congressional candidate Diane Sare and are supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche.<\/em> They were removed today from the event after they refused to stop singing loudly about being sent to Auschwitz<\/em><\/a>. <\/em>It appears to be the first time people have been asked to leave by police at a Christie town hall<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Comment that is useful for added context.:\u00c2\u00a0 Fairlawn is a heavily Jewish town. Auschwitz references were not accidental. Judging from callers to Christie-friendly NJ 101.5 FM locals didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t like those references at all.<\/em><\/a>…<\/em><\/p>\n

Sure, we can put it into “part of the spectacle”.\u00c2\u00a0 We can also play a game with them for Partisan Advantage and Hypocrisy. Witness…<\/p>\n

I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t hear what the mob is singing at all, but according to this Fox News report it was something involving Auschwitz? Really? So they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re comparing Christie to Hitler\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6again. Nice.
\nAll the more reason to say this was a perfect, calm response to a dopey liberal stunt. Another win for Christie<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Meantime, Fox News reports it — “linked to Democratic candidate for Congress”<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Interestingly, when Bill O’Reilly wanted to slam Barney Frank at the time of Rachel Brown’s instigators, O’Reilly had to dove-tail back to his report and offered the caveat, “But she was an activist” with an agenda.\u00c2\u00a0 The main problem with these things, for a charge of a double standard is seen with this comment.<\/p>\n

And funny how the media is very careful to identify the offenders as LaRouchies, a courtesy they didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t extend to the Tea Party when those kooks showed up with the now famous \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Obama with Hitler mustache\u00e2\u20ac\u009d posters<\/a>.
\nIn the scheme of “Don’t Hate the Media, Be the Media<\/em>“, I will point out that this particular slice of the meida — the Weasel Zipper blog–\u00c2\u00a0 failed to clearly identify the Larouchies as separate from the Unions.<\/p>\n

In the category of inappropriate humor.:
\nMaybe they should have herded all the pro union people that were there, into another room, sealed it off, and turned the gas on. Wanna sing about Auschwitz now??? Jerks<\/a>\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6
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AND… I don’t know if this person will claim the Larouchies were trying to de-legitimize the tea party<\/a>?<\/p>\n

More evenly with this topic.:
\nLegitimate protesters with rational messages are cringing today, after learning that wackjob supporters of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche were thrown out of Gov. Chris Christie\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s 20th town hall forum of the year. Police bounced them from the jam-packed Fair Lawn Community Center on Wednesday after they refused to stop singing loudly about being sent to Auschwitz. We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve noticed a recent uptick in the number of idiots using Nazism as a touch point to get their message across. That needs to stop<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Here’s the Larouche response, from Margarette:\u00c2\u00a0 What a bunch of fools all of you are! The singers were singing about how Christie is the same as Obama! Governor Christie, the fat shlubba, in a campaign ad before he ran for Gov, ENDORSED OBAMA\u00e2\u20ac\u2122S GREEN ENERGY POLICY, and proposed windmills and solar panels for NJ! The folks who were singing at this town meeting are promoting NUCLEAR POWER-THEY ARE NOT LIBERALS!<\/em>
\nFurthermore, what Obama, and Christie, and all the budget slashing Governors are doing, is absolutely NAZI! Try reading and studying history instead of listening to FOX or NPR or whatever crap is brainwashing you!<\/em><\/p>\n

All right!\u00c2\u00a0 Fox News AND NPR or whatever crap!
\nUnderstand, this is how that site — of a mass of people cheering while they were being booted out the door — quite a number cheering falling in the 47 percent line of the approval \/ disapproval number<\/a> — is being relayed to the larouche movement.
\nIn line with Lyndon LaRouche’s latest political and economic forecast, the state of New Jersey has now entered into a new phase of mass-strike protest<\/em><\/p>\n

Just not being reported on NPR and Fox News.
\nOne thing they’re good thing this is good for, I suppose — is a discussion of Godwin’s Law.<\/p>\n

The\u00c2\u00a0LaRouchies<\/em> seem to see Hitler in everyone. Sometimes I suspect they’re projecting. Back to reality, this behavior by Obama does strike me as odd.[…]<\/a><\/p>\n

I’m not a fan of LaRouche but, there is some truth to his position. Like Hitler, Obama is [etc]<\/em><\/p>\n

“But I play one on tv”.<\/p>\n

Another good thing the Larouchies are good for — Finding your Writing Voice!<\/p>\n

Diana Shellenberger:\u00c2\u00a0 Figuring out what kind of writer you are is critical to discovering your true voice, the one that comes out naturally. I remember one of the first times that happened as an adult. I was in a magazine writing class where we were required to write three articles over the course of the semester, along with doing market research and writing cover letters to actual publications. I had written an article on Lyndon La Rouche\u00e2\u20ac\u201dremember him? the tax-evading perennial presidential candidate? One of my classmates observed in the critique of my article that she could hear my voice\u00e2\u20ac\u201dsarcastic and conversational. That meant I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d done my job. In that piece I had managed to break down the barrier between my speaking and thinking voice and my writing voice. I would encourage you to look for the same markers in your own writing. The more you bring yourself into your writing, the better it will be. Not your idealized self, but you as you are. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not so sure I want to own the sarcastic part of my voice, but it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s there, and it works, because it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s me<\/a>.<\/p>\n

[hm]<\/p>\n

The Larouche organization is running six candidates for Congress for 2012.\u00c2\u00a0 This is up from, depending on how you count, the two or three candidates they ran in 2010.\u00c2\u00a0 There are Kesha Rogers, Rachel Brown, Summer Shields, Dave Christie, Diane Sare, and Bill Roberts.\u00c2\u00a0 Running for office with your name on the ballot, gives a candidate some minimal media attention.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 As this Town Hall meeting exercise is a tactic for the organization, and as these six individuals have been moved front and center as the organization\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s representatives at these townhall meetings, I imagine in the coming year, media outlets will find themselves with a few more moments like this.<\/p>\n

More pointedly, in 2010 the two congressional campaigns gave the Larouchies two political debates.\u00c2\u00a0 Barney Frank stated about his debate with Rachel Brown that he never refuses a debate with anyone \u00e2\u20ac\u201d a matter which caused some griping by his Republican general election foe for wanting to include minor party candidates \u00e2\u20ac\u201d so it looks as though a Rachel Brown primary candidacy equals a Barney Frank \u00e2\u20ac\u201d Rachel Brown debate.\u00c2\u00a0 It is not out of the realm of possibilities that Kesha Rogers could win her nomination again \u00e2\u20ac\u201d the Democratic Party would not like to think about this district \u00e2\u20ac\u201d which would mean another Public Broadcasting debate.<\/p>\n

The debate moderators have a bit of a hard task with the Larouche candidates and what to do with them \u00e2\u20ac\u201d you can more or less pick an item out at random from the Larouche org\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Collected Works and have something which is electorally disqualifying.\u00c2\u00a0 As it were, Rachel Brown and Kesha Rogers got out pretty darned easy in their debates, the debate moderators not really wanting to spend their time on irrelevant Larouche figures and tracking back to a sort of humoring of them, bemused eyebrow raising on how a quick relocation exercise to Mars will save humanity.<\/p>\n

The Media of New Jersey in particular but the various other states at these moments, in debate circumstance or newspaper endorsement interview or the general campaign events — and the Democratic Party for the various counties’ candidate appearances (where Larouchies have been given a seat in the past — to mocking audiences, for instance, laughing at Rachel Brown while eating a dinner and waiting for Barney Frank) would do well to pose the question — “What, in particular, were you (or your fellow Larouchie candidate) comparing to Auschwitz, and would you like to back-track right now for the comparison?”
\nIf they were real candidates, they would be asked that question.<\/p>\n

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The World is Full of Anti-Larouche Trollers full of “30 Year Old Slanders”…<\/p>\n

The problem with Raymond-the-rambler’s comments is that they are not genuine, but some kind of anti-LaRouche troller who skims the internet to post 30 year-old slanders as an “expert” comment-er. He clearly is behind the times. What would Ray-ramble say to the NY Times Joe Nocera who just wrote “The Banking Miracle” on Glass-Steagall? What would he say to the NJ AFL-CIO which just passed a resolution endorsing the same thing that Ms. Mallory was speaking to the council about? How about the 17 congresspeople who co-sponsored this legislation? Are they all kooks who were bamboozled by a loon<\/a>?
\n<\/em>Glass Steagall = Good.\u00c2\u00a0 Larouchies = Bad.\u00c2\u00a0 More can be seen in the comment that this was an answer to, (SIC):
\nMany people don’t know about this woman’s antics. She has been making accusations against all government agencies since she ran for Congress in 1994. I think the 4% of the vote she got then and the physical altercation over her protest of the Healthcare reform may speak volumes for her desire to create chaos, not solutions.
\nLocal Lansdale Borough Government has about as much influence as the North Penn Student Council, but I am sure she would want their backing too. Build a small truth of having government bnacking.
\nAs seen in their tactics, they are sending local supporters out to local meetings to get this in the news.
\nHis supporters and organizations were the same who made alligations that the Queen and Britian control world finances, drugs. That the VT shooter was addicted to First person shooting games and even when they proved he played mostly non-violent games, there was no aknowledgement. They also pushed supporters in the mid 80’s to keep AIDS infected kids out of school pushing information that AIDS was passed by casual contact even after information about it’s real method of tranmittal was known.
\nAny more time to these people is only going to help spread disinformation and false data<\/a>. <\/em><\/p>\n

Though, the disinformation they spread is to their followers, and somehow dovetails back to the response to Raymond’s initial comment.:<\/p>\n

Senior U.S. intelligence officials, along with leading figures within the Democratic Party, have warned that the Obama White House is in the process of launching a massive dirty operations campaign against Lyndon LaRouche and associates. […]
\nLeading Democratic Party figures explained this bizarre behavior from the standpoint that the Democrats fear that the demise of President Obama will bring Lyndon LaRouche to the fore as the only serious political leader who dared speak the truth about Obama and his British controllers. So, in effect, Reid, Boxer and Pelosi fell on the sword, in defending the President’s indefensible behavior on the Libya war, out of fear of LaRouche’s emergence as a folk hero and a leader of a movement for a revolutionary change in U.S. policy\u00e2\u20ac\u201dbeginning with the passage of the Glass-Steagall restoration, now pending before the House in H.R. 1489. This act of near political suicide on the part of Reid, Boxer and Pelosi was one of the first public signals that the White House has launched illegal operations against the LaRouche organization<\/em>.<\/p>\n

To be sure, here’s how one Larouche supporter sees things coming down the pike.<\/p>\n

Rep. Dennis Kucinich has a democratic transitional view of the nation. Political maverick Lyndon LaRouche has an oligarchical present view of the nation. Rep. Ron Paul has a republican future view of the nation. The three together are emerging as a potential potent ruling American presidential troika in a post-Obama interlude leading up to the federal elections of 2012.
\nMr. Kucinich fills the role of President, Mr. Paul the role of Vice-President and Mr. LaRouche the role of senior economic advisor to the Presidency. The morality and ethics of Representatives Kucinich and Paul are beyond reproach. LaRouche’s scientifically-grounded creative ideology perfectly complements Kucinich’s high moral ground and Paul’s high ethical standards<\/a>.<\/p>\n

One reason, dear Raymond, for the putting about for Glass Steagall Resolutions at any place they find — in addition to suggesting an “in” with the AFL-CIO they’re about to embarrass at a town hall, is to give an answer for this situation.<\/p>\n

Who the heck is he? never heard of him before, yet he has been a politician for well over 30 years. I got in a small debate with some LaRouche supporters trying to raise money in front of the courthouse on will clayton last night.
\naccording to them, Obama is controlled by the queen of england?<\/a>[…]<\/em>
\n it seems to me that they really don’t want to change or accomplish anything other than you donate to his campign fund. I have asked them what bills I need to call my reps and ask them to vote for, and if they had a petition to sign, and nothing, but they were very adiment that I “pledge” some money to dethrone obama.<\/strong><\/em>
\n thought LaRouche always ran for the communist party, let me google that. […]<\/em>
\nsounds like another life long politician to me.
\n<\/em>While keeping a hand in many a pot…\u00c2\u00a0 Communist and Libertarian!
\nHe is the founder of the “libertarian party” and is pretty much considered a kook. I believe he actually ran for president.
\n<\/em>AND… er… via Harley Schlanger’s frequent appearances with Dr. Deagle<\/a>… The Jehovah’s Witness Party<\/a>!<\/p>\n

The “Ready for Hitler Coup” is getting play at Godlike Productions<\/a> and “Patriot Action Network<\/a>.” — Not yet Iranian Press TV,<\/a> but it’s floating there against the backdrop.<\/p>\n

Also amongst Texas secessionists.<\/a> And there’s that 144,000 figure again.<\/p>\n

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Since it is inevitable that the current U.S. President Barack Obama has no chance of being re-elected under what might be called a “democratic election-process,” and since President Obama is essentially a puppet of the British monarchy, bought and paid for in his original election as U.S. President, that fact, and relevant other evidence signifies that Obama could be made President again only by the same kind of proceeding which brought Adolf Hitler into the successive steps of his appointment by the order of the combined agency of the Bank of England and the support of Prescott Bush’s actions on behalf of the Bank of England”s Hjalmar Schacht and and Brown Brothers Harriman.
\nGiven the facts of the crisis about to hit with great force with the first ten days following the close of the U.S. Congress’s accounting year, and in light of the attempt to enforce the continued “bail out,” there can be no possibility that the forces controlling British puppet Barack Obama’s career do not fully intend to pull off a coup d’etat comparable to that of Adolf Hitler.<\/em>
\nThere is only one remedy for both the United States and the Trans-Atlantic community of nations: the immediate re-enactment of the 1933 Glass-Steagall law.<\/em><\/p>\n

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\n<\/em>Encyclopedia of American Loons<\/a> #228
\nDiagnosis: Schizophrenic, megalomaniac raving lunatic who seems to wish to establish a socially conservative, fiscally socialist political system based on cult-like worship of the strong man (himself). That political system has been tried before. Fortunately LaRouche doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t stand a snowball\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s chance in hell of implementing it in the US, despite the fact that he has a frighteningly large number of followers<\/a>.
\nMegalomaniac, yes.\u00c2\u00a0 Schizophrenic, no.\u00c2\u00a0 The rest — yes.
\nIt is interesting, in light of the “Strong Man (himself) argument, that one thing that has the “Larouche Cryonics Movement” wavering away from the new man — — is the latter’s positive word for Mao.<\/p>\n

Mao is a great leader in Witzshe’s book but a British creation in Larouches.\u00c2\u00a0 Witzsche has positioned Mao TseTung as a great leader in a few of his articles… I can’t cite them right now. This is shocking to me because Larouche clearly leads you through the connections of Mao to the British. Further, Witzsche positions Chaing KaiChek as a “stooge of the West” (?!). Larouche carefully describes Chaing KaiChek as descended from SunYatSen. There is no way I can resolve this… Witzsche is brilliant in many areas I DO recognize, but this view of Mao seems so counterposed to Larouche’s that it’s no wonder Larouche people ignore Witzsche. I’ll work with this more here<\/a>.<\/div>\n
This is interesting, in light that Witzsche identifies Mao along with Larouche, and Washington Lincoln Roosevelt and Kennedy — for “Great Leader status”.\u00c2\u00a0 The Larouche \/\u00c2\u00a0 Witzsche (we’ll see which side of the coin things land on) <\/a>Cryonics Movement awaits the clarification of the status of Mao.<\/div>\n
The Larouchies apparently have many things going against them<\/a>.
\nGiven my understanding of Larouche for 10 years… and given my understanding of the insights you have on Larouche’s failed fusion, failed NAWAPA and failure to see electric universe, and basalt and ice age as primary topics, and essentially the bad manners of the LYM toward me,<\/strong> it may very well be that CS could be positioned to make a come-back under MBE-public credit thinking.<\/em><\/div>\n
Hoo Hah!<\/div>\n

Okay.<\/p>\n

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ilovepink953 says\u00c2\u00a0 Don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t remove yourself from the situation. Remove Obama under Sec 4, 25th Amendment. He is incompetent and his policies are meant to increase the death rates of the most vulnerable among our citizenry. Isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t it time that Obama be shown the door? Hey Joe are you listening? Obama is not a Democrat or a Republican. He is a fascist!! His policies mimic those of Hitler. A saner population would demand his ouster. Leadership lies with Lyndon Larouch<\/a>e.<\/div>\n
name one president in the last 40 years that hasn’t violated the War Powers Act<\/a>.<\/div>\n

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Odd Easily Classified and Identified Anti-Semitic Conversing with Larouche’s “Ideas” of the Week (or so)<\/a>
\nDOMINATED BY SEPHARDIC JEWISH BANKERS, the private Bank of England expanded its investments into North America largely through the Hudson Bay Company.<\/em><\/p>\n

The early American colonists of the 17th Century were beholden to the Bank of England\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Jewish owners \u00e2\u20ac\u201d paying taxes from their labor \u00e2\u20ac\u201d as repayment for funding the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153opportunity\u00e2\u20ac\u009d to create a new way of life in the New World. […]<\/em><\/p>\n

And here I am looking at Sky Shield’s body language to the Larouche question “Where does a gorilla go to vote?”<\/a> by looking at some CPSAN hosts’ to various racist inquiries.
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or it might be Chris Christie’s budget cuts.\u00c2\u00a0 Either one doesn’t make all that much difference to the total effect. Hitler has long turned into something of largely an item for farce, something that happens with time which has its good and bad points.\u00c2\u00a0 It is how the Larouchies can float the “Obama — Hitler” […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8404","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-larouche-challenge","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8404","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8404"}],"version-history":[{"count":24,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8404\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8463,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8404\/revisions\/8463"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8404"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8404"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8404"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}