{"id":6795,"date":"2010-09-10T01:00:01","date_gmt":"2010-09-10T08:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=6795"},"modified":"2010-09-11T12:12:40","modified_gmt":"2010-09-11T19:12:40","slug":"6795","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2010\/09\/10\/6795\/","title":{"rendered":"The Dining Room Table Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"

The most eagerly anticipated political debate in ages.
\nPlease tell me it will be on somebody\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s website!<\/em><\/a>
\nOh yeah, baby.\u00c2\u00a0 It’s up there.\u00c2\u00a0 All over the place.\u00c2\u00a0 Both the Larouchepac and Rachel Brown campaign sites have it.\u00c2\u00a0 , as well New TV and Wicked Local.
\nMeanwhile, Barney Frank is so chicken, all he is willing to do is place the local newscast report of it up<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 (Warning: the pop up of\u00c2\u00a0Barney Frank\u00c2\u00a0giving a verbal “Thanks for Visiting my Web Page.” is a little unnerving.)<\/p>\n

A little historical perspective for the Great Barney Frank versus Rachel Brown Debate.:<\/p>\n

In 1959, Vice President Richard Nixon\u00c2\u00a0and Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev held a series of exchanges for the\u00c2\u00a0opening of the American National Exhibition at Sokolniki Park in Moscow, framed for televised consumption.\u00c2\u00a0 Nixon pounded the theme of the superiority of America’s Consumer Lifestyle.\u00c2\u00a0 It was dubbed the\u00c2\u00a0“Kitchen Debate”, but is occasionally referenced as “The Kitchen Table Debate”.\u00c2\u00a0 For our purposes here, it’s the “Kitchen Table” debate.<\/p>\n

Five decades passed before the metaphor of a “table” would be incorporated as a metaphor for a debate.\u00c2\u00a0 The first part of the debate was held in August of 2009.\u00c2\u00a0 And then came\u00c2\u00a0the second part,\u00c2\u00a0on Tuesday, September 7, in the city of Boston, Massachusetts, where Barney Frank held forth against Rachel Brown in the second part of “Dining Room Table” debate.<\/p>\n

The stakes of the debate are huge for Frank and Brown:\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0In\u00c2\u00a0March of 2010, the 22nd Congressional District of Texas\u00c2\u00a0nominated a candidate in Texas, by the name of Kesha Rogers.\u00c2\u00a0 The future was their’s.\u00c2\u00a0 And up before them lay a series of political tests.\u00c2\u00a0 Could Buseo crack\u00c2\u00a0an election result in Germany?\u00c2\u00a0 No.\u00c2\u00a0 They won .01 percent<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Then there was Australia.\u00c2\u00a0 Could the CEC pull through with\u00c2\u00a0literature like this<\/a>?\u00c2\u00a0 No.\u00c2\u00a0 The CEC got 0.07% of the lower house vote (that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a swing of -0.15%) and 0.13% in the senate (swing of +0.06%).
\nIf the International Scene looked bleak, the American electorate looks even more hostile to the Larouche\u00c2\u00a0program since the smashing\u00c2\u00a0high-point victory of Kesha Rogers.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0The candidate in San Francisco, one Summer Shields, was not even able to get on\u00c2\u00a0the ballot — and is reduced to running against Spongebob Squarepants for write-in votes.
\nThe only chance to regain momentum,\u00c2\u00a0and turn this debacle around, lies with Rachel Brown’s campaign against Barney Frank.<\/p>\n

The stakes for Barney Frank?\u00c2\u00a0 He has played it cool, and denies .\u00c2\u00a0 It is a sign of the difficult political climate that Barney Frank felt the need to open up a Campaign office for the first time in years.\u00c2\u00a0 Should the election results be just a tad worse than expected for his party, the specter of Scott Brown looms over him.\u00c2\u00a0 But this opposition lies with his probable Republican opponent — one Sean Bielet<\/a>, a politically convienent Democrat turned Republican.\u00c2\u00a0 It appears for all the world that Barney Frank is taking his primary opposition lightly.<\/p>\n

It is still unknown whether he practiced on his tables at home beforehand.<\/em><\/a>\u00c2\u00a0— Oh, you didn’t do your research.
\n“I don’t plan to spend a lot of time on her. I think the notion that we should colonize Mars is not one I need to spend much time addressing. Or the fact that the president is like Hitler, or not like Hitler,” Frank told POLITICO.\u00c2\u00a0 […]\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Frank didn’t do any debate prep, spokesman Harry Gural said.\u00c2\u00a0 “Who would you get to play her? She would have to play herself,” he said.<\/em><\/p>\n

Nobody believes you,\u00c2\u00a0Barney Frank.\u00c2\u00a0 In reality, Rachel Brown’s and Barney Frank’s Debate Prepping looked\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0like this<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Anyway, the Rachel Brown contingent came in for a rally.\u00c2\u00a0 The Barney Frank contingent came in for a rally.\u00c2\u00a0 The sights and sounds<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Hm.\u00c2\u00a0 Notice the difference between Brown’s contingency and Frank’s.\u00c2\u00a0 Could it be — could it be — that the Brown group is more committed and motivated than the Frank contingency, thus auguring for a Surprise Upset on Tuesday?
\nAlso, we have that ever present\u00c2\u00a0generational difference in groupings<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Of course she does. Self-assured and brimming with confidence, Rachel Brown is also the price we pay for rearing the Entitlement Generation, those smug, deluded young people raised on a daily regimen of unearned praise and flattery from their misguided Baby Boomer parents.<\/em><\/p>\n

Hm.\u00c2\u00a0 You know?\u00c2\u00a0 May I make a request.\u00c2\u00a0 Please don’t bring Larouchies into a discussion of sociological gripes about the rearing of generations, even as extreme examples of cultural missives.
\nAnyway, I hear The Baby Boomer Generation is all Spock’s fault.<\/p>\n

\u00e2\u20ac\u0153I want to spend time on Mars,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d the Quincy resident told me. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153But it would be a project over centuries.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d
\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Can we wait that long?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d
\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Well, we can certainly develop small colonies before that. It will be a stepping stone to develop other parts of the solar system. It would be a driver for the economy.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d
\nRaised in Seattle, her father worked for Boeing and her mom ran day care from their home. She\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s an acolyte of Lyndon LaRouche and said she works for him full time. When pressed, however, she said she only receives, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153A small stipend for room and board,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d but, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know if you want to put that in your article.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> […]<\/p>\n

But her message of hate and ignorance is not without its supporters. Earlier this year, the candidate received warm and enthusiastic applause when she spoke at a tea party meeting right here in Worcester and called for the president\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s impeachment. And the tea party wonders why it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s so often scorned?\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

See<\/a>:
\nFrank, the 15th term Democrat representative,\u00c2\u00a0 is not taking Brown the Candidate\u00c2\u00a0 any more seriously than he took Brown the Town Hall Participant. Never a man of princely tendencies, it’s no surprise that Frank isn’t prepared\u00c2\u00a0 to take the high road; already he’s saying\u00c2\u00a0 she’s irrational.
\n<\/em>
\n\u00c2\u00a0“What are they doing to stop Obama’s Hitler Health Care Policies<\/a><\/em>?”<\/p>\n

The reviews are in.\u00c2\u00a0 First from LPAC.<\/p>\n

At the conclusion of Tuesday night’s debate between LaRouche Democrat Rachel Brown and Rep. Barney Frank, Brown’s campaign manager, Jenny Getachew, summarized the outcome: “The Earth just tilted a little bit more on its axis. In our direction!” […]
\nLyndon LaRouche commented that the Obama White House is going to be particularly hysterical over the fact that Brown’s reference to Obama as a “ticking time bomb,” was covered in an AP wire that was published in the Washington Post.<\/em><\/p>\n

Then there’s Brown in her post-debate press:\u00c2\u00a0“I hope I did better than a piece of furniture,” <\/a>
\n<\/em>
\nThe reviews aren’t all that encouraging.\u00c2\u00a0 See, “Asshat of the Day<\/a>“.\u00c2\u00a0 (throw the, “where were you when some people called Bush “Hitler”?” if you must.)
\nBrown also wants to colonize Mars. She believes this will help solve the economic problems we are having. Wonder if she wears a purple robe and Nike\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s when she\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not out in public, waiting for a spaceship to take her there?
\n<\/em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153No! Please, no. Because, even though I don’t think it’s gonna happen in my lifetime, I’d love to at least visit Mars myself, and even though it’s a big planet I’m afraid she’d spoil the view.<\/em><\/a>
\nHm…\u00c2\u00a0 Here’s a new one:\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Barney Frank? Wow.\u00c2\u00a0 Is he still alive?<\/a><\/p>\n

He’s got this supporter<\/a>, of course.\u00c2\u00a0 Wednesday Midday Report: Democratic candidate Rachel Brown defeated Barney Frank in a debate yesterday. <\/em><\/p>\n

There is a decent amount of the “Rather take the crazy one than –” sentiment.\u00c2\u00a0 Perhaps this mocking slap at Barney<\/a>:\u00c2\u00a0 I did not say I’d pick Brown over Frank. I don’t live in the district. I said that she was less dangerous than he is<\/em><\/p>\n

And, oh, please.<\/a>
\nThey look down their noses, even at people of their own party, who dare try to get them to explain themselves for what they are doing to this country. This man must be defeated. This primary is close approaching, Sept 14.<\/em><\/p>\n

As a huge fan of Roman history, this woman’s analogies piss me off.<\/em><\/p>\n

Yes, Rachel Brown is every crazy girl we ever dated in college. Which makes Barney Frank our sloppy roommate who got in fights with her. Check out the full debate below:<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

One thing about Rachael Brown, she sounds more like she is sane than Barney.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

[…]\u00c2\u00a0sounds like a global-fascist but it sounds so enchanting as socialism, seems too vague to be pigeon-holed. Maybe some sort of hopeful-realist label along with human productivity as a collective.<\/em><\/p>\n

Here’s a good “POINT \/ COUNTERPOINT”:
\nThis is bulllshit and more staged than professional wrestling. Barney Frank should be in jail. That he is debating a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153LaRouche supporter,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d the consummate tea bagger stooge at demonstrations, shows the Democrats are desperate to paint their opposition as fringe. There are good arguments proving Democratic corruption, and this woman will not make them. Instead, she will drag out every strawman argument employed by the left while her political ventriloquist dandles her on their knee. This demonstrates the contempt our ruling class has for the populace and the inefficiency of the national GOP for not being more committed to claiming scalps in these midterm elections. If Brown could take the old Kennedy seat, then Frank should be a sitting duck.<\/em><\/p>\n

Counterpoint<\/a>.
\nI make a point of calling them Nazi creeps when I pass their card table in Coolidge Corner. Just loud enough for the them and the kid they’ve button holed to hear.
\nI know, it’s a ‘free country’ but good God. Lyndon LaRouche nothing, Rachel Brown is more like Fred Phelps.
\nBarney Frank deserves a medal for even agreeing to debate this lunatic.<\/em><\/p>\n

Recognizing the dining room table, I approached her and said:
\nMe: “I saw what Barney Frank said about you and thought it was very unfair…”
\nHer: “Thank you.”
\nMe: “…to dining room tables.”
\nShe scowled at me and I told her that I’d be outing her on the internet as a LaRouche nutjob. After that I started photographing her.<\/em><\/p>\n

Okay first of all….. <\/a>nuclear fusion to get astronauts to Mars in a week…… Get ready Racheal after you lose the primary NASA will be calling…
\nSecond of all to claim that Obama is secretly planning a 2nd holocaust is just about the stupidest thing I’ve EVER heard. ‘Hitlers Holocaust began in the hospital’… Right it began in the hospitals … but not exactly what you would call ‘Health Care’. More like torture people until they die and record the data….
\nIf Rachel brown thinks that Health Care Reform will lead to racists in doctors coats torturing people to death I’d like her to explain how she came to that conclusion, and would suggest she read at least 1 page from the Health Care Bill.<\/em><\/p>\n

So good luck Rachel….. maybe when you grow up and form some common sense ideas on your own and stop spewing talking points from Larouche and Rush Limbaugh people will view you as a possible candidate…. but not as a democrat or republican…. why don’t you go run a libertarian. That way at least people will have something to point to when you start blaming the British for getting us into wars…. JEEZ!!!<\/p>\n

Well, the election is Tuesday.\u00c2\u00a0 I’ll be by with the Election Results in due time, and the repercussions.\u00c2\u00a0 Interesting enough, we already have some news coverage of the results<\/a>.<\/p>\n

……………………………………<\/p>\n

The Summer Shields Campaign in Full Force in Auburn <\/a>— the subtitle puts it\u00c2\u00a0correctly, I think:\u00c2\u00a0“To Raise Funds”.<\/p>\n

\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Everywhere we go people are like the French Revolution,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Craig said. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s very tumultuous. Sometimes they support us. Sometimes they don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t. But there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a lot of emotion.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n

The Auburn stop was part of a nationwide LaRouche Political Action Committee effort in support of three LaRouche candidates, Craig said, adding that he and Lea are taking their display to various towns in the area. […]<\/em><\/p>\n

McElroy, who had several friends sitting in the shade behind him, described Craig and Lea as hustlers.
\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re trying to get votes for Shields under the pretext of impeaching Obama,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he said.
\n<\/em>Confusion reigns, I guess.<\/p>\n

At the Shields booth, Craig and Lea were attracting a lot of supporters for their cause, including Tabitha Yates and her father, Henry, of Auburn.
\n<\/em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153I think Obama should be impeached,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Tabitha Yates said. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I lost my job. I think he had something to do with it.”<\/em><\/p>\n

\u00c2\u00a0<\/em>Surely NAWAPA will cure\u00c2\u00a0your unemployment\u00c2\u00a0problem!<\/p>\n

Next link.\u00c2\u00a0 Hm.\u00c2\u00a0 I tell you what… I won’t link to the url.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

The reality is that most of our models of politics focus on the middle and the mainstream, on how dissenters mobilize to become big enough to be politically relevant.\u00c2\u00a0 Most of our work does not focus on the anomalies, the folks way outside the mainstream.\u00c2\u00a0 I spotted a Larouche Democrat (that is a non-democrat) outside the gates of McGill yesterday.\u00c2\u00a0 I doubt that we have a good general explanation for a) folks who follow Lyndon Larouche [I am wondering\/regretting who will link to my blog with this name in it<\/strong>]; or b) why such folks would be in Canada since Larouche and his ilk “compete” in US elections<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n

The continual problems that confront focusing attention on, say, those damned Quaran Burners.\u00c2\u00a0 Or Larouchies.\u00c2\u00a0 OR–
\nI do think the debate with Frank is valuable enough.\u00c2\u00a0 If there’d been one broadcast and covered with the South Carolina Democratic Senate nomination, for instance, I suspect the “real candidate” would have prevailed with Mr. Greene flushed out.<\/p>\n

The Tour is International.\u00c2\u00a0 These days, the “Post Office Tour” is now sliding easily into the “Campus Tour”, and they travel to Wisconsin.<\/p>\n

Representing LaRouche Political Action Committee, protesters Aaron Yuke and Alan Egre attempt to drum up support for their organization.
\n<\/em>… no doubt to entice the Second Generation Spawn of Benjamin Spock.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The most eagerly anticipated political debate in ages. Please tell me it will be on somebody\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s website! Oh yeah, baby.\u00c2\u00a0 It’s up there.\u00c2\u00a0 All over the place.\u00c2\u00a0 Both the Larouchepac and Rachel Brown campaign sites have it.\u00c2\u00a0 , as well New TV and Wicked Local. Meanwhile, Barney Frank is so chicken, all he is willing […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6795","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-larouche-challenge","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6795","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6795"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6795\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6817,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6795\/revisions\/6817"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6795"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6795"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6795"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}