{"id":6603,"date":"2010-08-01T14:29:19","date_gmt":"2010-08-01T21:29:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=6603"},"modified":"2010-08-01T14:29:19","modified_gmt":"2010-08-01T21:29:19","slug":"i-have-seen-the-future-of-the-larouche-org-in-ferndale-washington","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2010\/08\/01\/i-have-seen-the-future-of-the-larouche-org-in-ferndale-washington\/","title":{"rendered":"I have seen the future of the Larouche Org in Ferndale, Washington."},"content":{"rendered":"

Circuitously, and having to shuffle past a tedious series of exchanges with the author of this Fine study<\/a>, I found my way to clues to an answer to the questions that hover in the background for me — “What will become of the Larouche org after the man passes away, and what lasting memory will he leave?” — the same question.\u00c2\u00a0 It comes out of the question “Where in the world is Howard Scott”, as of today — in the year 2010?\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Wikipedia is an uneven and rough reflection of public historical memory.\u00c2\u00a0 Look into it and we see this spectacle of\u00c2\u00a0people ready to defend his character<\/a>.<\/p>\n

It is well known that Howard Scott was smeared in the press. You are republishing old information. Did you read the link I directed you to? I gave you a link that provided evidence. Why are you wholesale reverting everything\u00c2\u00a0?
\n<\/em>Why be a continuing part of a smear effort? Why try and assassinate this persons character. It is unseemly and really uncalled for. <\/em>skip sievert<\/em> (<\/em>talk<\/em>) 16:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)<\/em><\/p>\n

User Johnphos… Scott was smeared in the press, and you are dredging up that material now again, please do not use the Times link in this article on Scott. It is not sourced in the article.<\/em> The article is a known designed attack on Howard Scott and includes things like this How this transformation from dollar economy to energy economy is to come about, Howard Scott never explains. Says he at times: “Technocracy proposes no solution.” At other times he silences questions with a pontifical belch That is the level of this unsourced anon article. Along with the Hearst corporation there was a concerted effort to make a fool and chide Scott in the press. <\/em>skip sievert<\/em> (<\/em>talk<\/em>) 04:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<\/em><\/p>\n

Obviously the article is meant to be a satire and not a serious piece. It has no author and came out after the Hearst corporation and others put out a directive to discredit the group. His early career is not notable at least the way you have measured or portrayed it. Obvious to see where the piece is aimed. Please do not add this again. Johnfos I have asked you previously not to disruptive edit or trail my edits. <\/em>skip sievert<\/em> (<\/em>talk<\/em>) 01:32, 31 March 2009 (UTC)<\/em><\/p>\n

I imagine the wikipedia article on “Technocracy Inc” clashes with Hyzoloic Hedgehog’s piece round about where it places the organization in the present day and fails to concur with a split.<\/p>\n

Technocracy Incorporated’s headquarters were originally situated in <\/em>New York<\/em>. It has moved several times through its history, and is currently located in <\/em>Ferndale, Washington<\/em>. <\/em>Howard Scott<\/em> became the first Director of Technocracy Incorporated in 1933, a position he held until his death.[<\/em>citation needed<\/em>]<\/em><\/p>\n

From “Monad Man”:\u00c2\u00a0 In spite of the majority’s adherence to Scott, the split devastated the movement. In 1951 Technocracy’s CHQ had to leave its offices in Manhattan and relocate first to Lambertsville, New Jersey, and then to a farm in Bucks County outside Philadelphia. Although some local Technocracy chapters continued to publish small journals, Scott’s CHQ issued its last pamphlet in the late 1940s. Scott sank into even deeper historical obscurity and when he died in 1970 his passing did not even merit a note in the New York Times.<\/em><\/p>\n

Looking at the citations for the wikipedia article, I have no idea why the current website for “Technocracy, Inc<\/a>” would delete its founding principles of 1933<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 I suppose that you have to be pragmatic and can’t be ideologically driven to your principles in a society you did not create — even if you favor a “No Money Society<\/a>“, you still have to sell stuff to pay the bills<\/a>.<\/p>\n

I have seen the future of the Larouche org.\u00c2\u00a0 It is a website where this<\/a> is the most popular page — where predictions for 64 years ago are still rationalized away<\/a>, and the main Ferndale, Washington\u00c2\u00a0branch has a sister locale in Vancouver, British Columbia.\u00c2\u00a0 It is a loop of appeals to the Youth<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0to the FUTURE!<\/p>\n

Technocracy is not a political movement. It is an organization with a dynamic plan for the future–a non-monetary system of distribution, managed by the people most qualified in their particular fields, not by politicians or financiers–we’ve already seen what they do.
\n<\/em>We owe our standard at living to science and technology–in the hands of those who know how things work. In the wrong hands, we face an uncertain future. You owe it to yourself to look into Technocracy’s design. After all, that is where you will spend most of your life–in the future.<\/em><\/p>\n

There are three wikipedia pages that directly concern Howard Scott and “Technocracy, Inc”.\u00c2\u00a0 Larouche enjoys a much larger wikipedia tree.\u00c2\u00a0 Absent the mass of Larouchites tacking away at wikipedia, I suspect the apparatus would collapse — not quite to the Scott and Technocracy, Inc — but only due to the fact that there are more outlets of information today than there was in the hey-day of the 1930s and 1940s, and more available.\u00c2\u00a0 Meantime, the wikipedia team of one for Technocracy, Inc appears to have faded.\u00c2\u00a0 A battle lost<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Skip, You’ve said <\/em>here<\/em><\/a> that “…Technocracy Incorporated and its program.. is perhaps the most important social movement of the 20th. century in my opinion… it influenced and continues to influence many… and was the fastest growing social movement of the early to mid 1930’s.” skip sievert (talk) 14:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC) And this is the general position presented in this article.<\/em><\/p>\n

But where is the actual evidence that TI has been so important and influential? Perhaps there are some New York Times articles and scholarly books by disinterested historians about TI? Many more third party publications are needed to support what is being said in this article. Sources close to the subject are not very helpful and I’ve tagged the TI Publications section as being an advertisement. <\/em>Johnfos<\/em> (<\/em>talk<\/em>) 09:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)<\/em><\/p>\n

Skip Sievert has failed the Herschel\u00c2\u00a0Krustofsky test — he has not kept at it with new names, with a new tag-team (perhaps because the org only consists of one person in Ferndale?), from different isp locales, etc. to badger and bug the wikipedia editors.<\/p>\n

In Larouche campaign news:
\nSummer Shields held an all day press conference in Chinatown on the 29th.\u00c2\u00a0 I’m sure it filtered into LPAC press releases.\u00c2\u00a0 The Summer Shields for Congress Chorus held a concert at St. Mary’s Square Park.\u00c2\u00a0 And this week, all are welcomed to join the U.S. Army Corp Bay Model Tour, and an Economic Policy Workshop\u00c2\u00a0on\u00c2\u00a0The Historical Development of California with special guest Mark Calney on Saturday, followed by\u00c2\u00a0a Conceptual Tour of San Francisco lead by Mark Calney on Sunday.<\/p>\n

The Kesha Rogers campaign held a “Save the U.S.A. Layoff Obama!” Intersection Rally, and Ian Overton will lead a discussion of LaRouche’s September forecast on Saturday at Coffee Oasis<\/a>.<\/p>\n

The Rachel Brown campaign has received a bit of press, and a columinist calling for a debate with Barney\u00c2\u00a0Frank,\u00c2\u00a0here<\/a>:
\nYou may remember her as the person Frank likened to a dining room table at a Dartmouth town meeting last summer. According to her campaign website, Ms. Brown favors the impeachment of President Obama, in part because of what she calls his \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Hitler healthcare policy.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d She also advocates the American colonization of Mars. That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Mars, the planet \u00e2\u20ac\u201d not the candy company. I hope Frank debates her on live television.<\/em><\/p>\n

But she will appear alongside the two Republican challengers to Barney Frank on Newton radio station NECN’s program “Broadside”, on Monday, August 2nd at 6pm.\u00c2\u00a0 For a suggested 25 dollar donation you can go to the Brookline Main Library to “participate in an evening of beauty, dignity, and joy in honor of the 200th birth year of Robert Schumann and the beautiful culture he fought to create” in fighting “the Obama administration and lackeys such as Barney Frank, are degrading and killing off the population.”\u00c2\u00a0 On Saturday, you too can meet Rachel Brown and dine on some\u00c2\u00a0pizza<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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