{"id":4849,"date":"2009-10-26T13:49:37","date_gmt":"2009-10-26T20:49:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=4849"},"modified":"2009-10-26T13:49:37","modified_gmt":"2009-10-26T20:49:37","slug":"what-if-they-threw-a-dark-ages-and-no-one-showed-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2009\/10\/26\/what-if-they-threw-a-dark-ages-and-no-one-showed-up\/","title":{"rendered":"What if they threw a Dark Ages and No One Showed Up?"},"content":{"rendered":"

The question for the moment is… Is this anything?<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0 And by that I mean, is this anything new?\u00c2\u00a0 It’s been a long time since I just went ahead and reposted a Larouche Daily Briefing\u00c2\u00a0 en total, but this is interesting enough.<\/p>\n

In previous daily memos, we have seen Larouche do the usual berating of his baby-boomers for doubting.\u00c2\u00a0 This one is kind of interesting, in that the berating drips in\u00c2\u00a0to the hallowed Youth Members.\u00c2\u00a0 We also see that interesting alteration of the “drop dead” moment (and for precise moments of description, you can rely on this factnet post<\/a>)\u00c2\u00a0of when all governing functions would cease to a “Phase Shift”.\u00c2\u00a0 It also becomes apparent that\u00c2\u00a0perhaps leaving the country happens\u00c2\u00a0happens when\u00c2\u00a0this \u00c2\u00a0cognitive dissonance is around the bend, so he might “set things straight” upon re-entry. …………………………………………………………..<\/p>\n

Oct. 17, 2009\u00c2\u00a0 LAROUCHE: OK, first of all, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m going to chew you out; and you know why. Because some of our idiots, and they tend to run more to the older generation than the younger ones in this case, got the bright idea that I had somehow been mistaken in my forecast of what was going to happen in October. This, as usual, was done; the argument was made on the basis of fraudulent representation of what I had said repeatedly and carefully on that subject during the month of September, and in the first week of October. So, people were trying to insist that I had predicted this general collapse, like a breakdown collapse, and what I was a phase, a critical phase-change which brought us into the threshold of a general collapse. And exactly that has happened.
\nNow, some of our friends, who we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been in a discussion with, have recognized that and gone to the point of making their own calculations to extend my Triple Curve into the more recent developments. And Debbie has seen that. I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seen it as such, but I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve heard it described, and I know what she has described is quite accurate; that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s exactly the way it has happened. There has been a sudden phase-shift downward in the state of the US and the world economy during the first two weeks of October. It has happened exactly as I said it would happen.
\nNow, those who profess to doubt that, were basing themselves on public information of the type which is completely crap! In other words, they had no evidence, but they chose to believe that they were shaken in their confidence by what they were reading in the press. And this, I mean, this is really a whore\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s game. You know, the whore smiles when the prospective client comes up, and that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the way some of Boomers acted on this case of this October forecast. What I warned was going to happen, has happened {exactly} as what I warned would happen. There\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no difference from that. But, there was a \u00e2\u20ac\u201c people wished to be foolish and prematurely senile, and therefore, they reacted in a way that a prematurely senile person would react. You gotta \u00e2\u20ac\u201c don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t appear to be senile! Let me warn you Boomers. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s dangerous to appear to be senile. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll cart you off and kill you, and burn you for ashes! [Laughter] Don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be senile anymore! And don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t get any more of these crazy fits.
\nNow, this is mostly comes from the Boomers domination in the regions. It also comes out from some problems in the Leesburg area, where people get \u00e2\u20ac\u201c because they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re trying to play games with their own mind \u00e2\u20ac\u201c they screw up and forget the point. The way we organize, the way we get our income comes only from what we do through LPAC. We may get some other income from other sources, and we do; but we get because of what we do with LPAC. When you shut down the support of LPAC, and say you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve got some high priorities or something, we can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t afford LPAC right now, you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re committing suicide, you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re committing political suicide. You\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re saying we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re going out of existence. So, you just have to control some of your Boomer friends who are prone to fits of senility. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re not justified; they haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t done enough work to become senile, but they take pleasure in doing that.
\nAnyway, so that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the problem. And you just \u00e2\u20ac\u201c {Don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t do this any more!} This old thing, which comes from some people in the office and some of the regions, really is a kind of moral senility. And it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s done on the thing\u00e2\u20ac\u201d[in dumb, whiny voice] \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Well, we, some people we talk to said differently. We can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t say that anymore, don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t you understand?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d And like all these people going out, they want to talk to somebody about what happened. Instead of telling them what happened, they come out with a long pitch, [same voice] \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Well, let me tell you, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s starts like this\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u009d, and then about a half an hour later, when they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve finished their wind-up, the person they were talking to has walked away. This typical Boomer stuff!……………………
\nALICIA: Hey, Lyn. I just want to ask you a question because it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been a point of discussion here, you know, it comes up with the OTCs every single day. What are we going to do about the intelligence, because there are a couple of people that we can count on, and if we can a hold of them, it works. But otherwise, it just makes a big difference here if people are in reality, and if they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re not, well, you can see what happens, so\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 [crosstalk]
\nLAROUCHE: Two things on this. First of all, what happens is, when we get into a financial bind, the most qualified people just aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t available, because they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re doing something else. And you get people who are less qualified, and less emotionally stable, who sort of shape the opinion among the Boomer layer in particular. This extends to the phone teams, which are the liaison to various cesspools, which they pass through intellectually in going from one locale to another. And so, you get a real panic of complete incompetence, because you have fewer competent people on the job, from among the Boomer strata in particular. This is my nightmare, because every time I leave that joint, to come to this joint, I can anticipate a catastrophic loss in intellectual capacity represented by organization as a whole there, and internationally immediately. But I have to do things here, because I have things I must do here. We don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t travel back and forth across the Atlantic once a week. So, when I leave the United States, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m here for some weeks, and every time catastrophe breaks out. Sometimes it comes from some youth problems, but usually the real catastrophes come from the Boomers When the Boomers who are capable and thinking clearly, are tied up, and the other ones who are thinking clearly, or would be thinking clearly, are out there doing something financially, instead of paying attention to politics, then you get, you know, the third team comes in? The ones that haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t got their jock straps on? [laughter] Or ladies with jock straps, something like that. And that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s what happens.
\nYou have to have a sense of self-defense, what if I didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t exist, huh? You have to have a sense of bull**** is bull****, and when you can smell it, call it what it is. I laid out some very clear policies on the organization\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s approach to October. I did that very carefully, knowing I would be absent during that part of the month. And I said specifically what had to be done, and what had not to be done. And I defined the perspective for this month precisely as I described it, and {as it has happened!} Nothing different than what I described has happened. What I described has happened. You get some guys, who get nervous, and they say, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Uouonh!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d [groans] Panic, huh? Something different. Well, it was never different, it was just impressionism of Nervous Nellies. And it was Boomers; it started in the regions, and spilled back into the phone teams. Gerry\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s got his back turned, pssfftt! Some wild nonsense comes. And you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve got some people who are still malicious toward me in the organization, especially among the Boomers. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re malicious toward me, not because of what I did to them, but of what they did to me, and some Boomers cannot forgive me for what they did to me. That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the way it works in life, you know. People don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t hate you because of what you did to them; they hate you for they did to you. And that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s what that goes on. Anyway.
\n………………………………………….<\/p>\n

Moving onward, a bit more cognitive dissonance comes into the picture with Cody Jones here<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0telling that he was prepping for the economic collapse, but had to explain to the disbelievers that they’re wrong, and on we go to the Personality Cult of “The One” — and explaining to the LYM cohorts how to keep the faith <\/em>against the crisis and the lack of Crisis Coverage outside the purview of the cult, to keep the faith as they confront the Masses unaware that they reside in a New Dark Age.\u00c2\u00a0 (First three and a half minutes… I hear tell that after that, the hits do keep on coming, but I myself dropped after that.\u00c2\u00a0 Note that he himself has no doubt of the New Dark Age.)<\/p>\n

Then again, another problem with raising funds is shown around here — people you’d hate meeting at a cocktail party<\/a>, and the “Unwelcome” sign<\/a>:
\nNew Fairfield is still stinging from racist and sexist e-mails forwarded by two public officials earlier this month, and Tuesday’s visit by the LaRouche Political Action Committee was the last thing it needed.<\/em><\/p>\n

She was pushing the beliefs of an American named LaRouche and kept calling him an economist<\/em><\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0<\/em>[Note:\u00c2\u00a0an important parcel for Leatherstocking in editing wikipedia articles.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Has had tremendous success at the endevor, and the first paragraph in particular certainly does\u00c2\u00a0stink there.\u00c2\u00a0 Has a cache of Russian sources at his disposal<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Dennis King comes in here <\/a>, and refers to the\u00c2\u00a0stench this throws on wikipedia.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0King then posts\u00c2\u00a0something that is within the scope of sort of my pet issue in the\u00c2\u00a0Larouche wikipedia items <\/a>–\u00c2\u00a0Leaterhstocking\u00c2\u00a0never posts the entirety of what Larouche has said.\u00c2\u00a0 Now I leave the digression.] \u00c2\u00a0The last time I heard of him was in 2000 when a van of supporters drove around and indirectly called my aunt a whore.<\/em>
\n[…] <tactics here.\u00c2\u00a0 A sort of good cop \/ bad cop.\u00c2\u00a0 A few phrases leap out:<\/p>\n

\u00c2\u00a0I tried to explain that their message appeared convoluted to people passing by; they said they didn’t care about popular opinion. I tried to explain the problem with Hitler Obama; they said they don’t care about advertising, they care about reality. One of them also said she doesn’t care about truth.<\/em><\/p>\n

Or, put another way<\/a>:
\n\u00c2\u00a0you want an explanation? that just means you are going to have to do some work! I agree with the last poster, you DO sound arrogant as hell! and that may hinder your capability to understand what Larouche is talking about. you may be too emotionally attached to your current axioms, and your arrogance will get in the way of your conceptions being challenged.<\/em><\/p>\n

Well then.<\/p>\n

Posted by The Daily Elitist , Economics at University of Nebraska <\/a>on April 28, 2009 at 10:15pm<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0 (I don’t believe you, or this set up.)
\nI long dismissed the LaRouchies as a “cult,” just as I’d been conditioned to by the corporate media and the higher-ups in academia; however, the ongoing financial and economic crisis has made me re-think many of my long-held views concerning economics and social organization generally. I think any honest person even slightly familiar with the work of LaRouche and his supporters must now concede that he’s been right about nearly everything.<\/p>\n

Mr. LaRouche truly is one of the greatest minds the United States has ever produced, and it is to our eternal disgrace that we’ve ignored and even tried to silence him. My suggestion: look at what he actually says and the predictions he’s actually made – not what the media tells you he thinks. Venture out of the classroom and look at what’s physically occurring in the real world, and then try to tell me, with a straight face, that his approach to economics doesn’t make far more sense than any other yet devised.<\/p>\n

Seriously, just read what he has to say – and don’t let anyone else do your thinking for you<\/em><\/p>\n

\n

But I guess they’ll always have an audience so long as we have this<\/a>:
\n“Right loons, as against the Left loons in power”.<\/em><\/p>\n

For whom I suppose they could go for the soft sell<\/a>.
\nAll I can see is that this nation (USA) is very messed up right now. L. Larouche has a plan, might work – might not<\/strong>, but once you understand monetarism (Keynasian), you’d see that there is no recovery, just inflation to hide debt. That is what LaRouche really wants to fix, and then he wants us to have a mission to go to Mars. How bad is that?<\/em><\/p>\n

“Might work.\u00c2\u00a0 Might not.”\u00c2\u00a0 Har de har har.\u00c2\u00a0 See, he does have parts of things to sell… as from an LPAC clipping for the day:<\/p>\n

American statesman Lyndon LaRouche’s call to re-establish the Glass-Steagall standard in the United States, to separate speculation from legitimate investment deserving of government protection, has been echoed
\n<\/em>by Senators and various politicians and actual live economists\u00c2\u00a0dating back to when\u00c2\u00a0it was repealed in 1999 (Senator Dorgan of North Dakota, for instance), as against Bill Clinton who still today defends the repeal.\u00c2\u00a0 But never mind.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0It’s “flanking” various issues.<\/p>\n

One final note:\u00c2\u00a0 Mr. Benton does not deserve this write-up<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Fall Church News-Press<\/em> (Wow! Deeds\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 second endorsement is by a paper run by Lyndon LaRouche devotees!<\/em><\/p>\n

I suppose this is the type of blogger who’d then go on to claim the “Larouche wackos” at town hall meetings are being over-reported to diss the whole tea party movement<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0(Proudly showcasing this comic book <\/a>on\u00c2\u00a0his sidebar?)\u00c2\u00a0Still, leave it to Howie G to toss out a particularly homophobic smear for his clarification.\u00c2\u00a0 (He’s done this line before.):<\/p>\n

Fall Church News is NOT run by a Lyndon LaRouche supporter. That guy Nick stopped being with LaRouche about the same time that he \u00e2\u20ac\u0153came out.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/div>\n

Here’s a good effort <\/a>to deflect the\u00c2\u00a0cult\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0from the tea party movement.<\/p>\n

And a warning shot about the Obama Hitler<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n

Moments like this ask us to examine our emotional responses and form cogent responses to the ideas invoked.\u00c2\u00a0 Is this a lot of work?\u00c2\u00a0 It can be.\u00c2\u00a0 There’s a lot that’s been created in the history of the world. \u00c2\u00a0But at least we’d be taking life and citizenship as seriously as the LaRouche people do.\u00c2\u00a0 Otherwise the future just might end up in their hands!\u00c2\u00a0
\n<\/em>Please don’t give them that false hope.\u00c2\u00a0 Supposedly they’d rise to power on the behest of World Elites at the bdawn of an Economic Crisis.\u00c2\u00a0 That didn’t happen.\u00c2\u00a0 They missed their moment, which seems to spell a bit of their cognitive dissonance.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The question for the moment is… Is this anything?\u00c2\u00a0 And by that I mean, is this anything new?\u00c2\u00a0 It’s been a long time since I just went ahead and reposted a Larouche Daily Briefing\u00c2\u00a0 en total, but this is interesting enough. In previous daily memos, we have seen Larouche do the usual berating of his […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4849","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-larouche-challenge","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4849","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4849"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4849\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4875,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4849\/revisions\/4875"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4849"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4849"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4849"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}