{"id":4617,"date":"2009-09-04T12:22:31","date_gmt":"2009-09-04T19:22:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=4617"},"modified":"2009-09-04T12:22:31","modified_gmt":"2009-09-04T19:22:31","slug":"herschelkrustofsky-take-gajillion-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2009\/09\/04\/herschelkrustofsky-take-gajillion-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Herschelkrustofsky, take gajillion 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User_talk:Steve_Grayce\">Steve Grayce<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Steve Grayceset up an account\u00c2\u00a0at Wikipedia.\u00c2\u00a0 He made a couple\u00c2\u00a0edits that were the same edits as every other &#8220;Herschelkrustofsky&#8221; nom de plome &#8212; obsessed with getting the original <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Talk:Lyndon_LaRouche#High_Times_article\">subtitle of Chip Berlet&#8217;s High Times article in<\/a>, for instance.\u00c2\u00a0 Apparently he made three edits\u00c2\u00a0in quick secession, in fact, which lead to his temporary ouster.\u00c2\u00a0 He then challenged his temporary banishment.\u00c2\u00a0 And was then banned permanently\u00c2\u00a0because he was, in reality, none other than \u00c2\u00a0Herschelkrustofsky, the famous Jewish clown on the Simpsons.<\/p>\n<p>Also in\u00c2\u00a0familiar to\u00c2\u00a0previous &#8220;Herschelkrustofsky&#8221; puppets, though new as pertaining to new events,\u00c2\u00a0Krusty the Clown\u00c2\u00a0deigned to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Talk:LaRouche_criminal_trials#Kronberg_material\">remove the reference to Molly Kronberg&#8217;s libel suit <\/a>from the end of &#8220;Larouche Criminal Trials&#8221; case, when by any measure the article warrants a couple sentences as a post-script.\u00c2\u00a0 We also see Krusty&#8217;s attempt at forcing newly Larouche&#8217;s rewritten history into the Court Trials itself.\u00c2\u00a0 Will Weback, ever too gracious in too\u00c2\u00a0accomodating these compromises, &#8220;added a little more about LaRouche&#8217;s allegation.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0 Actually, what needs to be added in terms of Larouche&#8217;s response to Kronberg&#8217;s lawsuit is the reference from the LPAC release as this being part of the British plot\u00c2\u00a0against Larouche due to them\u00c2\u00a0bring down Obama&#8217;s Health Care policies and his opposition to the Iraq War.\u00c2\u00a0 A similar feeling I&#8217;ve had with respect to both Kronberg&#8217;s wikipedia article and Duggan&#8217;s &#8212; get the craziness there, and don&#8217;t white-wash it.<\/p>\n<dd><em>His supporters say they regard him as a world statesman, yet when they edit this article, they do so as though he&#8217;s a figure of no importance, so that every even slightly positive reference to him in the media must be mentioned. I suggest we stop engaging in OR entirely (which includes picking and choosing material from primary sources), and stick only to what secondary sources regard as important. That doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t use LaRouche articles at all, but it does mean that someone else must have mentioned them first. <\/em><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><em>SlimVirgin<\/em><\/span><em> <small><sup><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">talk|<\/span><span style=\"color: #ffc0cb;\">contribs<\/span><\/sup><\/small> 06:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)<\/em> <\/dd>\n<p>The surreality of this is shown in the manner that they have, in the past, commented disparingly of the use of a college newspaper here and there (one of the people who had any reason to pay attention for the past decade), while &#8220;Leatherstocking&#8221;, in question for a source, pulled up a college newspaper (as well Italian sourcing and something else &#8212; I am having trouble finding this and don&#8217;t consider it worth my time trying any harder.\u00c2\u00a0 There he made the\u00c2\u00a0amusingly bald \u00c2\u00a0statement that &#8220;I forgot your search engines only bring up negative\u00c2\u00a0references to Larouche.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0)<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Krusty&#8217;s tag-team member, the sort of &#8220;Good Cop&#8221; of this &#8220;Good Cop \/ Bad Cop&#8221; routine in terms of retaining a permanent presence, comes out with:<br \/>\n<em>Another point of dispute is that recent edits have highlighted the two WP:COATRACK articles on the LaRouche list, <\/em><em>Jeremiah Duggan<\/em><em> and <\/em><em>Kenneth Kronberg<\/em><em>, without giving similar emphasis to other articles on the LaRouche list that depict LaRouche in a more favorable light, such as <\/em><em>Amelia Boynton Robinson<\/em><em>. &#8212;<\/em><em>Leatherstocking<\/em><em> (<\/em><em>talk<\/em><em>) 01:05, 29 August 2009 (UTC)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Reading the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Amelia_Boynton_Robinson\">Robinson wikipedia article<\/a>, I would think that a reference to a recent interview where she expressed great admiration and pride in the presidntial election of Barack Obama should be placed there, as a means of balance.\u00c2\u00a0 She likes Larouche and she likes Obama.\u00c2\u00a0 Make of that what you will, and I do make of it something but I&#8217;ll bite my tongue.<\/p>\n<p>In other news, some amusing clips have shown up at youtube.\u00c2\u00a0 And stuff.<br \/>\nThis strikes me as important enough to plop from out of my commenting in the comments section.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bostonherald.com\/news\/opinion\/letters\/view\/20090827frank_fires_back\/\">Barney Frank&#8217;s letter to the editor<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Also from out of Boston, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bostonherald.com\/news\/us_politics\/view\/20090903us_sen_john_f_kerry_i_will_keep_up_ted_ks_health_care_fight\/\">they get a sentence or two in a piece about a John Kerry thing<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Funny that, as the Cult leader, in their fantasy world,\u00c2\u00a0&#8220;took over the Party&#8221; and rallied under John Kerry toward victory&#8230; or at least to the next hub ub &#8212; John Conyers and allegations of irregularities in Ohio.\u00c2\u00a0 Also worth mentioning,\u00c2\u00a0page A25 of the \u00c2\u00a0Washington Times article for\u00c2\u00a0September 3rd\u00c2\u00a0has a photo of two Larouchies holding a sign &#8212; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rls=GGLD,GGLD:2003-44,GGLD:en&amp;q=Town+halls+give+lawmakers+pause+on+Democrats%27+health+care+overhaul+Jennifer+Haberkorn\">first google find here<\/a>) and is conflicting with the editorial bias of the article and newspaper &#8212; unless the Washington Times wants to claim the Larouchies as a legitimate source for their oppositon.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Grayce. Steve Grayceset up an account\u00c2\u00a0at Wikipedia.\u00c2\u00a0 He made a couple\u00c2\u00a0edits that were the same edits as every other &#8220;Herschelkrustofsky&#8221; nom de plome &#8212; obsessed with getting the original subtitle of Chip Berlet&#8217;s High Times article in, for instance.\u00c2\u00a0 Apparently he made three edits\u00c2\u00a0in quick secession, in fact, which lead to his temporary ouster.\u00c2\u00a0 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4617","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-larouche-challenge"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4617","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4617"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4617\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4618,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4617\/revisions\/4618"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4617"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4617"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4617"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}