{"id":4363,"date":"2009-07-24T13:46:41","date_gmt":"2009-07-24T20:46:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=4363"},"modified":"2009-07-25T11:08:35","modified_gmt":"2009-07-25T18:08:35","slug":"health-care-nazism-and-911-and-jabble-wockery-my-weekly-larouche-update","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2009\/07\/24\/health-care-nazism-and-911-and-jabble-wockery-my-weekly-larouche-update\/","title":{"rendered":"Health Care Nazism and 9\/11 and Jabble-wockery: my weekly Larouche update"},"content":{"rendered":"

“The paranoid spokeman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms — he traffics in the birth and deaths of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human value.”\u00c2\u00a0 — Richard Hofstadter<\/a>.<\/p>\n

“I go further than you do, for I question whether the Dark Ages in Western Europe from the fifth to thirteenth centuries were really as dark as the usual historian paints them.\u00c2\u00a0 It might be worthwhile to compare not paintings and arhitecture or literature of the Europe of the seventh century with the Europe of the eleventh century but to compare rather the state of civilization of the mass of the inhabitants of these far seperated ages.\u00c2\u00a0 […]\u00c2\u00a0 Another thought for you — the only “civilizations” which have really ended have been isolated islands like Yucatan and the Incas.\u00c2\u00a0 They, I fear perished without transmitting much of their gain to any other part of the world.” — Franklin D Roosevelt, letter to Theodore Dreiser, 10-5-39
\n…………………………………..<\/p>\n

“Internal document usually means something which Chip Berlet or Dennis King claim that they have obtained through clandestine means and which cannot be verified.” — Leatherstocking, on this wikipedia page<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Leatherstocking knows better than that, of course.\u00c2\u00a0 After all, “Revenire” stated so naw justin, i don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t mind if you read\/scan LPAC\/\u00e2\u20ac\u009dthe\u00e2\u20ac\u009d briefing\/etc\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re a nice enough person and just doing your thing so keep at it. (2\/25\/09)
\n<\/em>Then there’s:
\nAs far as I’m concerned, “conflict of elites” and “psychosexual political organizing” are esoterica and won’t be missed. The “economics” section is different;
\n<\/em>Har de freaking har.
\nReally, I think this wikipedia entry should be shortened to the\u00c2\u00a0two sentence “Larouche views himself as a world historical person, and\u00c2\u00a0has proceeded on the basis of ensuring that\u00c2\u00a0someone somewhere<\/em> believe it along with him.\u00c2\u00a0 He has a long line of opposition to this claim, mostly expressed with the question “Who?”.”\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/em>(An observation made right here \u00c2\u00a0 <\/em>If I must, the wikipedia article may be expanded beyond that — but the central problem is always, as expressed by these conflicting Will Beback statements:<\/p>\n

“Confidence in the dialog”? How do you expect me to have any confidence in the dialog when at least 15 sock puppet accounts of a single user have made 432 edits to this talk page? After that much deception it’s hard to have confidence in a dialog. This page is a monument to mendacity.\u00c2\u00a0 <\/em>AND:
\n“in the interest of compromise<\/em>“.<\/p>\n

Which ensures that the larouche pages are the poster children for the limitations of wikipedia, as\u00c2\u00a0voiced recently by a “Cas70″\u00c2\u00a0with<\/a>:
\nI’ve always told my students not to trust everything they read on Wikipedia, and it seems I’ll have a cautionary tale from this experience to reinforce that warning. […]\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/em> To call LaRouche an econimist would be tantamount to calling a little child playing with a stethoscope a doctor just because he imagines he is one.<\/em><\/p>\n

Though how can he describe this all as “Jabble-Wockey” when confronted with this opinion:
\nI was just totally mesmerized by it. I had never met anyone who spoke so eloquently as Mr. LaRouche.<\/em><\/a>
\n……………………………….<\/p>\n

The big question for Ryan James here<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Now usually any citation of Mr. LaRouche instantly puts me off the subject matter, as I am sure it does with you, for the reason that Mr. LaRouche and his followers have a worldview that tends to go down well with a certain amount of Kool-Aid. However, I bring this information to light so that readers can decide for themselves.<\/em><\/p>\n

So why bother?\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 The given answer to that question\u00c2\u00a0 is:<\/p>\n

While the report does not name any sources, other than party officials, it would still be in the interest of Gov. Beebe and Sen. Lincoln to disavow this report and deny that the White House is pressuring the Governor\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Office to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153crackdown\u00e2\u20ac\u009d on Mrs. Lincoln, even in the face of the White House and Democratic National Committee\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s decision to <\/em>run television advertisements against the senator<\/em><\/a> in order to pressure her to vote for Obamacare.<\/em><\/p>\n

There’s, I suppose, a formula being worked here for LPAC.\u00c2\u00a0 Obama is engaging in nothing more than standard politicking –truth be told, nowhere near as strong-arming as your Lyndon Johnson engaged in\u00c2\u00a0— if he weren’t putting pressure on Senator Lincoln, he’d be guilty of a sort of Political Malpractice.\u00c2\u00a0 That is about the sum total of the “nugget of truth” in this article — perverted beyond reasonable recognition by the Cult.\u00c2\u00a0 So from <\/a>this we jump to:<\/p>\n

But LaRouche, a student of both history and psychology, understood that someone suffering from an acute Narcissistic Disorder, has to be confronted\u00e2\u20ac\u201drepeatedly, and with ever-growing candor\u00e2\u20ac\u201dif he is to ever break free of the syndrome and return to the world of reality.
\n<\/em>The man knows from Narcissstic Disorders, don’t he?<\/p>\n

Slightly more than 100 days have passed, since LaRouche delivered his clinical diagnosis, that President Barack Obama suffers from acute malignant self-love. In the intervening period, the evidence of the President’s disorder has become so transparent that one prominent Washington, D.C. Democrat confided that the joke circulating around Capitol Hill and at Democratic National Committee headquarters is: President Obama awoke one morning, looked in the mirror and saw that his nose was bleeding. Furious at what he saw, he ordered aides to immediately bring him a new mirror!
\n<\/em>
\nAttention LYM members and assorted Baby Boomers: Who and where are these people that\u00c2\u00a0reach back to this reference to\u00c2\u00a0illuminate, casually at that,\u00c2\u00a0contemporary events?<\/p>\n

Senior Democrats, speaking on condition of anonymity, have told EIR that they are astounded at the behavior of the President and his Oval Office aides. “They see the world as a zero-sum game,” one official commented.
\n<\/em>Again.\u00c2\u00a0It is highly unlikely that anyone speaks in that particular idiom on capital hill.\u00c2\u00a0 Try again next time.\u00c2\u00a0 Or don’t — it serves its internal purpose, as well its\u00c2\u00a0middling external\u00c2\u00a0“now, Larouche is a nut, but –” purpose.\u00c2\u00a0 The other game is the defense of Ethics-challenged House members.\u00c2\u00a0(Conyers is a new figure to pop into such a list, but googling “Conyers” and “ethics”, I see a conservative group has filed a complaint.\u00c2\u00a0 Hm.\u00c2\u00a0 To be an elected official is to have that done.)<\/p>\n

Some of the people on Emanuel’s Congressional hit list, among them Representatives with the greatest seniority, and the strongest “FDR Democrat” credentials, have surfaced as recent targets of relentless FBI investigation and a barrage of media leaks. Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), Chairman of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee; Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, perhaps the most powerful body in the House, responsible for all tax legislation; and Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, who has championed a single-payer universal health insurance plan, that was instantly deep-sixed by the President […].<\/em><\/p>\n

Well, here Larouche fineses his way to a “left-plank” position*.\u00c2\u00a0 The standard liberal position being “Single payer is preferable, but at the very least a public option,” and the former is cut off the table from the outset due to the power of the\u00c2\u00a0Insurance industry.\u00c2\u00a0 The Larouche position apparently is, as suggested here (but probably if spelled out elsewhere not so much), “Single Payer, yes, and Obama’s public option is the Nazi program of genocide.”\u00c2\u00a0 The double-speak is that Larouche is dropping health insurance for his organization.<\/p>\n

This morning Morrison & Foerster, a California law firm whose employees contributed heavily to Barack Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s presidential campaign, is seeking to stop organizers associated with LaRouche Political Action Committee from campaigning against the President\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s health care policy at Los Angeles area shopping centers. In legal papers filed in the Superior Court in Los Angeles, the firm specifically complains about posters and literature that document that Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s health care policies are identical to those personally adopted by Adoph Hitler in 1939.
\n<\/span><\/em>A spokesman for LaRouche PAC stated. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153This is exactly the way the Nazi\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s behaved against those who resisted Hitler\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s policy of eliminating lives deemed \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcnot worthy to be lived. \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc This is the United States of America 2009, not Nazi Germany 1939. Obama\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s loyalists won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t stop LaRouche from exposing their Hitler-like plans.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Exactly like the Nazis, this… this… attempt to stop the org from setting up card tables in front of various businesses.<\/span><\/p>\n

I await to see how this q and a session\u00c2\u00a0<\/a>is written up in LPAC, to see the fun-house mirrors\u00c2\u00a0in action:
\nThen we got another question from the LaRouche crew, tying the Holocaust to with government-run health care. The panelists were abruptly dismissive of the question, and good for them. (The weird thing, is the LaRouche person felt like she was helping them – like they were all on the same side.)
\n<\/em><\/span>
\n<\/span>Well, I suppose\u00c2\u00a0this is\u00c2\u00a0a more mainstream\u00c2\u00a0cause than the continued grasps at the 9\/11 Truth movement. <\/a>\u00c2\u00a0The comments suggest some general problematics:<\/span><\/p>\n

Again, a Mossad backed mis-information campaign to move the attention away from the Israel-Mossad-9\/11 link. Half-truths implicating the wrong people to steer the general public away from the real perpetrators.<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0
\nAND
\n<\/strong><\/span>I could only view two of the YouTube links before I got bored.<\/em>
\nThese people are seemingly more interested in How Larouche Got It Right than in formulating any coherent approach to the subject matter.<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0 […]
\nThe whole thing (or the two links that I saw before giving up) was pretty weird, and oddly amateurish. Mind you, who listens to Larouche folks anyway?<\/em> <\/span>…………………………………..
\nHowie G<\/a> confuses me while stepping into the old “Fema camps” junkyard, and then returning to — I guess this?<\/a>
\nHowie G:\u00c2\u00a0 Is this a typo:\u00c2\u00a0 that went on after the election of Jimmy Carter, in the December 1975 time period —<\/em> or is the phrase “time period” supposed to be a weasel word?\u00c2\u00a0 (Suggested to a group tending to be hung up over a misplaced “Tri-lateral Commission<\/a>“.)
\n………………………….<\/p>\n

Mesmerizing power\u00c2\u00a0of Jeffrey Steinberg!!!
\n(Now, it’s true that from the libertarian perspective, Obama is fairly similar to Bush. It’s likewise true that, from the perspective of a die-hard Lyndon LaRouche supporter, Obama and Bush are also peas-in-a-pod, both ignoring LaRouche’s prophecies about the gold standard and the British monarchy and the like.) <\/a>Jonathan Chait <\/em><\/p>\n

Ah… but Obama can be fixed.\u00c2\u00a0 If he just realizes his Narcisstic Problem.\u00c2\u00a0 And then realizes the inherent “Institution of the Presidency”.\u00c2\u00a0 Which means following the road of the FDR — Clinton — Larouche Democrats!
\nThat out is laid at the end of that “Narcisstic article”.\u00c2\u00a0 Clever game, they continue playing.<\/span><\/p>\n

Okay<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0
\nIt’s been a while since I’ve heard anything about Lyndon LaRouche. Maybe since the eighties? I’m not sure.
\n<\/em>If I remember correctly he’s a darling of the lunatic right-wing fringe. I’m dying to hear more about the “Anglo-Dutch financial oligarchy.” I wonder if it’s anything like the International Jewish Conspiracy to take over the world.<\/em>
\nOh, not particularly the “darling” of anyone\u00c2\u00a0 — “right – wing fringe” or otherwise.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0I think this sort of popular-conception\u00c2\u00a0is where some former members get annoyed by the “experts”.
\n<\/span>Michael R. Zaeske has been active in the LaRouche movement for the past 13 years. He and his wife live in Oshtemo Township with their three dogs.
\n<\/em>I’m tempted to post a rather mean-spirited allustion to cult policy, but I can let it go.\u00c2\u00a0 Cryptically, I’ll just say that I trust they’ve walked their dogs today.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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