{"id":3296,"date":"2009-01-12T10:29:44","date_gmt":"2009-01-12T17:29:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2009\/01\/12\/prescott-bush-and-zorg\/"},"modified":"2009-01-21T16:06:43","modified_gmt":"2009-01-21T23:06:43","slug":"prescott-bush-and-zorg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2009\/01\/12\/prescott-bush-and-zorg\/","title":{"rendered":"Prescott Bush and ZORG"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One good thing about\u00c2\u00a0the passing of the Bush Administration:\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0the end to having to hear about\u00c2\u00a0gawd-danged Prescott Bush.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Were you\u00c2\u00a0aware that Prescott Bush funded the Nazi War Machine?\u00c2\u00a0 Why, the Bush Family is responsible for the rise of Nazi Germany!!<\/p>\n<p>It is there that this awkward passage dangles in wikipedia&#8217;s &#8220;Prescott Bush&#8221; entry.:<br \/>\n\u00c2\u00a0<em>On July 23, 2007, the <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/BBC\" title=\"BBC\"><font color=\"#002bb8\"><em>BBC<\/em><\/font><\/a><em> Radio 4 series Document reported on the <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/Business_Plot\" title=\"Business Plot\"><font color=\"#002bb8\"><em>Business Plot<\/em><\/font><\/a><em> and the archives from the <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee#McCormack-Dickstein_.281934.29\" title=\"House Un-American Activities Committee\"><font color=\"#002bb8\"><em>McCormack-Dickstein Committee<\/em><\/font><\/a><em> hearings. The program made no allegations about Prescott Bush.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I would think the statement &#8220;BBC documentary made no allegations&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0would\u00c2\u00a0land in the\u00c2\u00a0discussion page, but apparently a whole mass of people roll to wikipedia seeking BBC&#8217;s verification that Prescott Bush was in the middle of Smedley Butler&#8217;s claimed conspiracy of a coup attempt against Roosevelt to justify its requirement.\u00c2\u00a0 So\u00c2\u00a0Prescott Bush\u00c2\u00a0gets to be post-humously shoe-horned into the picture:\u00c2\u00a0 Jules Archer&#8217;s rather repetitive book on the subject doesn&#8217;t have Butler fingering Prescott Bush.<\/p>\n<p>The entry on the &#8220;Business Plot&#8221; is seen <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Business_Plot\">here<\/a>, and I suppose I&#8217;d argure for Raymond Swing&#8217;s contemporaneous dismissal of said plot in &#8220;Forerunners of American Fascism&#8221; to be included somewhere along the lines, but\u00c2\u00a0his thoughts are\u00c2\u00a0pretty much summised in Arthur Schlesinger&#8217;s reaction, at any rate Schlesinger not obscure as Swing.<br \/>\nIn the\u00c2\u00a0discussion section for this,\u00c2\u00a0one question is suggested:\u00c2\u00a0 <em>Isn&#8217;t this just an International Jewish Bankers&#8217; Conspiracy?<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0 Oh,\u00c2\u00a0I&#8217;d say\u00c2\u00a0Not quite.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0But one can be forgiven for saying it is, and\u00c2\u00a0the\u00c2\u00a0right archtypes are there, it fits the Grand Narrative and quickly can be applied\u00c2\u00a0in subverting the history of the rise of Hitler.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Note that listed in the &#8220;Historians Reaction&#8221; on this wikipedia page, right next to Schlesinger, is Hans Schmidt, I suppose appropriate for writing a\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0813109574\/ref=s9sdps_c2_14_img1-rfc_g1_si1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=center-2&amp;pf_rd_r=1VDAH7JH7AC0KM8XNAGT&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=463383371&amp;pf_rd_i=507846\">biography on Butler\u00c2\u00a0<\/a>, though some further background I&#8217;d think might be approrpiate &#8212; he doesn&#8217;t have a wikipedia page to link to, so I have to scrouge up\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.natvan.com\/free-speech\/fs961b.html\">this<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 I will also note that a google search reveals Schmidt is in ill health at the moment, hence a supplier of nazi paraphenilia features a well wish greeting.<\/p>\n<p>Curiously discussed in the discussion page, issue acknowledged with a &#8220;Wow&#8221; by an editor\u00c2\u00a0with no clarification left on the page itself.<br \/>\nAlso interesting to note &#8212; deleted from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Talk:Business_Plot#Removed\">wikipedia here<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 I know where this fits the Larouche cause of last year; I don&#8217;t know enough of what the organization was shilling in 1994 to know what they were attempting then.<\/p>\n<p>So the sudden burst of Larouchite sock-puppets at the &#8220;Larouche Criminal Trials&#8221; wikipedia discussion over\u00c2\u00a0the issue of clarifying\u00c2\u00a0some used as a\u00c2\u00a0Larouche Credentialist at the time of Larouche&#8217;s Imprisonment, Von der Heydt, &#8220;Huge in Europe and a Political Prisoner!&#8221; &#8212; bring Dennis King to task for &#8212; hypocrisy? &#8212; over not taking on the real Nazis of history &#8212; namely Prescott Bush &#8211;\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Talk:United_States_v._LaRouche&amp;diff=183957567&amp;oldid=183870073\">right about here<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<dl>\n<dd>\n<dl>\n<dd><\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<p><em>This is all a big fraud. Dennis King has no credentials as an actual opponent of Nazism\u00c2\u00a0* \u00c2\u00a0&#8212; when has he ever spoken out against the Americans and Brits who actually supported Hitler, such as Prescott Bush, Averell Harriman, Montagu Norman, or Joseph Kennedy? When has he ever opposed the Germans who really\u00c2\u00a0&lt;i&gt;and etc. etc.&lt;\/i&gt;<br \/>\nThis article isn&#8217;t about King, Bush, Montagu, or Kennedy. Nor is it about Heydte. We have plenty to cover without bringing in extremely tangential characters. Heydte is a side-show. \u00c2\u00b7:\u00c2\u00b7 Will Beback \u00c2\u00b7:\u00c2\u00b7 10:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I like the phrase &#8220;Actual Opponent of Nazism&#8221;.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 That covers most of us &#8212; though, I guess not all of us.\u00c2\u00a0 Is there anyone out there who does not believe that Dennis King opposes Nazism?\u00c2\u00a0 And if it takes credentials to get that, where can I get these credentials as cheaply as possible?\u00c2\u00a0 In politics, anyone who is discovered to be otherwise is\u00c2\u00a0electorally dead in the water &#8211;\u00c2\u00a0witness<a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2008\/04\/26\/2874\/\"> the case with Tony Zirkle<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Wander further into this underbrush and we see documents posted at &#8220;laroucheplanet&#8221; being challenged for being posted at such a slanderous site, and then there&#8217;s what I guess is a lesson in the economics of the Larouche Cult from one of the Larouche sock puppets:<\/p>\n<p>The LaRouche movement is anything but typical, so the supposition that publishing someone&#8217;s book involves a financial transaction is unfounded. And it is worthy of note that the LaRouche trial generated an international hue and cry. I don&#8217;t see two German professors, by the way. And why is it that they are only &#8220;obscure&#8221; when you disagree with them? &#8212;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/User:Terrawatt\" title=\"User:Terrawatt\"><font color=\"#002bb8\">Terrawatt<\/font><\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/User_talk:Terrawatt\" title=\"User talk:Terrawatt\"><font color=\"#002bb8\">talk<\/font><\/a>) 16:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)<\/p>\n<dl>\n<dd>The LaRouche Movement doesn&#8217;t pay its authors? Do you have a source for that astonishing assertion? The second professor is Albert Bleckmann. Niether German professor is famous in their field in the U.S. and neither is known to have attended the trials. There&#8217;s no apparent relation between themn and the case, except that they have opinions. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/Special:Contributions\/Will_Beback\" title=\"Special:Contributions\/Will Beback\"><font color=\"#002bb8\">\u00c2\u00b7:\u00c2\u00b7<\/font><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/User:Will_Beback\" title=\"User:Will Beback\"><font color=\"#002bb8\">Will Beback<\/font><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/wiki\/User_talk:Will_Beback\" title=\"User talk:Will Beback\"><font color=\"#002bb8\">\u00c2\u00b7:\u00c2\u00b7<\/font><\/a> 19:16, 23 December 2007 (UTC) <\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<p>Okay.\u00c2\u00a0 The rest of my day&#8217;s ramblings are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.factnet.org\/vbforum\/showthread.php?p=372477#post372477\">here<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 I don&#8217;t want too much more of this to be sitting here on this blog.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In other news:\u00c2\u00a0 appropriation of phrases &#8212; the cult is pushing for Fusion with the phrase, (ahem) &#8220;Yes we can&#8221;.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/vfpgainesville.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/israel-denounced-for-maintaining.html\">These guys may want to be a bit more careful<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/kittyradio.com\/soapbox\/spirituality\/46078-keplar-mind-god-knowable.html\">And this is mildly interesting<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One good thing about\u00c2\u00a0the passing of the Bush Administration:\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0the end to having to hear about\u00c2\u00a0gawd-danged Prescott Bush.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Were you\u00c2\u00a0aware that Prescott Bush funded the Nazi War Machine?\u00c2\u00a0 Why, the Bush Family is responsible for the rise of Nazi Germany!! It is there that this awkward passage dangles in wikipedia&#8217;s &#8220;Prescott Bush&#8221; entry.: \u00c2\u00a0On July 23, 2007, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3296","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-larouche-challenge","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3296","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3296"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3296\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3296"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3296"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3296"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}