{"id":3230,"date":"2008-12-08T10:02:50","date_gmt":"2008-12-08T17:02:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2008\/12\/08\/revenire-got-one-wrong\/"},"modified":"2008-12-08T10:04:17","modified_gmt":"2008-12-08T17:04:17","slug":"revenire-got-one-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2008\/12\/08\/revenire-got-one-wrong\/","title":{"rendered":"revenire got one wrong?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u00c2\u00a0saw them set up at two locations\u00c2\u00a0last week, entreating passerbys to ask about Newton&#8217;s Fraudulent Credentials.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0(Seen too by\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.oregonlive.com\/politics\/index.ssf\/2008\/12\/tax_forms_submitted_by_sizemor.html#2099852\">a few other people<\/a>, putting them back into some\u00c2\u00a0Portland resident&#8217;s conciousness long enough to make a snide jab at Bill Sizemore.)\u00c2\u00a0 As a result of seeing them at two locations, I could\u00c2\u00a0verify for certain that that car was theirs.\u00c2\u00a0 And I surmise that\u00c2\u00a0the automobile\u00c2\u00a0was used back in the Carter Administration when the organization\u00c2\u00a0(led by the Youth Members&#8217; forefathers) was hawking their &#8220;plan&#8221; to\u00c2\u00a0save the Detroit Auto Industry back then.\u00c2\u00a0 Which does dovetail to one of those random comments I saw posted to a &#8220;Hey!\u00c2\u00a0 Look Larouchies!\u00c2\u00a0 Yesterday&#8217;s version of Ron Paul \/ Ralph Nader \/ fill intheblank supporters&#8221; blog post.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Don&#8217;t know how they&#8217;ll survive once their leader croaks, but they seem to be hanging on with all the tenancity and tenuousness of Castro&#8217;s Cuba.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0 <\/em>Or something like that.\u00c2\u00a0 I didn&#8217;t bother saving it, and I can&#8217;t relocate it in\u00c2\u00a0enough time to justify completing a search for it.<\/p>\n<p>I was reading over some of the old &#8212; I guess we can call them&#8221;flame &#8211; wars&#8221;, though that suggests some form of a game I was never really interested in playing&#8211; with revenire, always having planned to go back and plaster together something into a file onto the sidebar &#8212; mostly by way of some observations from ex-Larouchies which pertain specifically to Wiesbedan (fewer of them than I remember&#8230; I myself offered relatively little of substance and can summise my favorite moment of his washes ashore as this exchange&#8230; <em>Revenire:\u00c2\u00a0 Don&#8217;t &#8216;Um&#8217; Me.\u00c2\u00a0 <\/em>and <em>Me: Um<\/em>.\u00c2\u00a0 Ba de dum, be da bing, you&#8217;ve all been great!), but was generally struck by the ridiculousness someone so cock-sured on the <a href=\"http:\/\/laroucheplanet.info\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.FcrasH\">viability of Larouche<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0&#8212; there&#8217;s an odd paradox with a cult that you simultaneously want and think everyone is thinking about your man and nobody is.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Revenire did make a fairly interesting comment near the end of his last stay, to wit:<\/p>\n<p>April 15, 2008:\u00c2\u00a0 <em>you jumpers have been drive insane by the fact larouche has been right all along\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 and you have been wrong and his public record proves it<br \/>\nyou have no public record, except your hearsay etc. from losers who could not stand the heat in the kitchen\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 cowards and fools, like rachel<br \/>\n<\/em><em>duggan was a suicide and kronerg jumped\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 larouche is alive and doing quite well<br \/>\nyou have tired old re-hashes of high times writers and mothers being used by people she has no clue about <strong>where is the new investigation into duggan?<br \/>\nTHERE ISN\u00e2\u20ac\u2122T ONE<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Well, pooh.\u00c2\u00a0 There is now.\u00c2\u00a0 Or a start to one.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Somberly, it&#8217;s\u00c2\u00a0something worth noting more than &#8220;gloating&#8221;. \u00c2\u00a0But does revenire&#8217;s statement count as one of those Larouchian forecasts?\u00c2\u00a0 Somewhere with the premise of Erica Duggan being &#8220;used&#8221; by former High Times writers on one hand, and Dick Cheney and the British Government on the other hand, she pushed it forward herself for the past five years.\u00c2\u00a0 I was going to simplify this quote, leaving what I highlighted in bold with a preceeding summary that goes [<em>insults of various people, insult of Mrs. Duggan in the cloak of a sort of faux humanitarian sympathy &#8212; belated at that<\/em>].\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0What\u00c2\u00a0fascinated me about revenire was upon his introduction, his interest was Jeremiah Duggan.\u00c2\u00a0 This was a little odd, as I&#8217;ve always\u00c2\u00a0felt I was just\u00c2\u00a0a little bit lax with the topic, always stating that legal issues notwithstanding the Organization was morally culpable for the death of Duggan &#8212; their best case on that regard scenario looking quite awful.\u00c2\u00a0 (Revenire also having a knack to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2007\/01\/16\/you-too-can-have-all-this\/#comments\">disbelieve everything<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0from the outside world.)<\/p>\n<p>That &#8220;Justice for Jeremiah&#8221; conference was heavy on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zimbio.com\/Holocaust+Research+Project\/articles\/274\/Executive+Summary+Larouchite+involvement+death\">anti-semitic angle<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Larouche is an esoteric enough topic that I have few foils to work with with differing thoughts on their activities, and that is why I once again have to go back once again to Alan Osler&#8217;s observations on watching the conference&#8230; and, I always come back to this because it really is a bizarre piece of commenting on his part&#8230; and Chip&#8217;s penis (link provided in previous postings, go down in this category).<\/p>\n<p><em>Here&#8217;s a thought on why so many of there people in that room didn&#8217;t know what &#8220;antisemitism&#8221; means&#8230; <\/em>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>And &#8220;really anti &#8211; British&#8221;.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0In traversing the Internet regarding Larouche,\u00c2\u00a0it is funny how I always come up against <a href=\"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2008\/12\/03\/is-there-no-end-to-the-treachery-of-the-british-empire\/#comment-59919\">these things<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 As though some neo-nazis on the furthest extreme of the &#8220;right&#8221; take that &#8220;code word&#8221; business seriously and see a sympathetic analyst for their position.\u00c2\u00a0 By accident, I suppose.*<\/p>\n<p><em>The worst thing about this little shitfest was that the Duggans&#8217;s grief was hijacked. Wasn&#8217;t it supposed to be about reopening the investigation? But no one wanted to say &#8220;The police fabricated the evidence&#8221;, so were were left with 2hours of pure, undiluted bullshit.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;2hours of pure, undiluted bullshit&#8221;, and\u00c2\u00a0a re-opened investigation.\u00c2\u00a0 Which will either drag nowhere or gets somewhere.\u00c2\u00a0 And legal issues aside, the very least it will at the very least broadcast the organization&#8217;s culpability in something beyond a Simpsons punchline.<\/p>\n<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I thought about Larouche when I saw the headline <em>London Times Reports British Tortured Obama&#8217;s Grandfather.\u00c2\u00a0 <\/em>Good fodder for the Larouchian engine which insists the &#8220;British Empire&#8221; is out to assassinate our Presidents.\u00c2\u00a0 Sure enough, and skip to the end:<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"background: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; cursor: hand; border-bottom: medium none\" id=\"lw_1228754607_9\" class=\"yshortcuts\">Lyndon LaRouche<\/span> has recently stated that there is a battle royale around the Obama administration. Obama as a president and Obama as a candidate are two different things. As a candidate he was controlled by the British, by <span style=\"background: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; cursor: hand; border-bottom: medium none\" id=\"lw_1228754607_10\" class=\"yshortcuts\">George Soros<\/span> and others. But now he&#8217;s in the thrall of the institution of the presidency, which means the potentiality of dealing with what he is faced with is different, especially now, in the context of a new fourteenth century dark age.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Love that &#8220;Fourteenth Century Dark Age&#8221;.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0No matter how bad things might get,\u00c2\u00a0an impossibly bleak outlook\u00c2\u00a0is made available\u00c2\u00a0for comparison&#8217;s sake.\u00c2\u00a0 Well, it puts him <a href=\"http:\/\/www.getmogames.com\/newsblog\/2008\/12\/03\/where-have-all-the-critics-gone\/\">off of one crusade <\/a>for a while&#8230; though, off\u00c2\u00a0I guess he&#8217;s off\u00c2\u00a0the video-game crusade and onto a Satanist kick.<\/p>\n<p>* Mental note:\u00c2\u00a0 I need to compile a number of these sort of things.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u00c2\u00a0saw them set up at two locations\u00c2\u00a0last week, entreating passerbys to ask about Newton&#8217;s Fraudulent Credentials.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0(Seen too by\u00c2\u00a0a few other people, putting them back into some\u00c2\u00a0Portland resident&#8217;s conciousness long enough to make a snide jab at Bill Sizemore.)\u00c2\u00a0 As a result of seeing them at two locations, I could\u00c2\u00a0verify for certain that that car was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3230","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-larouche-challenge","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3230","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3230"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3230\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3230"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3230"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3230"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}