{"id":25062,"date":"2021-07-24T16:53:53","date_gmt":"2021-07-24T23:53:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=25062"},"modified":"2021-08-02T18:09:44","modified_gmt":"2021-08-03T01:09:44","slug":"3rd-party-versus-4th-party-presidential-contests","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2021\/07\/24\/3rd-party-versus-4th-party-presidential-contests\/","title":{"rendered":"3rd Party versus 4th party Presidential contests"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

If the 3rd and 4th place candidates were your only choices, who would you pick?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

As a whole, they show that third party voting tends to act as a dodge — because when face to face with a decision on actualities, I will have to side easily with the damnable major party candidate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The early Prohibition candidates may bear some looking into, as the politics are not aligned as they are in current day “conservative” versus “liberal” — the women pushing Prohibition entwining their stance with suffrage, for instance. And so an election like 1880 bears looking into — if at first I am thinking “why, the populist, of course” — I have to step back and appreciate that Weaver’s rhetoric was taking on terroristically segregationist and anti-Semitic overtones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1912 may provide the hardest decision of two palatable candidates. The 1928 and 1932 elections between “near beer” socialism and Communism — pre- Popular Front at that! — is amusing enough (Go Norman Thomas!). — I guess a better choice in least having a Socialist as against 1948 and 1952’s “Red Soviet funded ” third candidate versus Segregationist. (I will go ahead and throw the vote to Wallace — and see how Europe configures itself.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What do you do with 1964? I gather one is shifting about trying to find meaningful differences. The next two come back to that Segregationist versus Communist jazz. (Socialist Labor fighting it out with Socialist Workers for fourth place, each getting its turn — so call them a draw.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But… Alright… 1976 onward goes… Libertarians now the closest to a constant with the different factions asserting control at different times (and edged out of the running in the 1996 – 2000 interval) — with big name independents their sparring partners at the top end (McCarthy, Anderson, Perot) mixed with a couple cult candidates in 1984 and 1988 — and in the closing slope Nader and\/or Greens as their sparring matches.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

McCarthy, Anderson, Bergland, Paul, Perot, flip a coin, Nader, Nader, Nader, Johnson, Johnson, Hawkins.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Got a problem with that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1872:\u00c2\u00a0Charles O’Conor (Straight-Out Democratic)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0James Black (Prohibition)
1876:\u00c2\u00a0Peter Cooper (Greenback)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Green Smith (Prohibition)
1880:\u00c2\u00a0James Weaver (Greenback)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Neal Dow (Prohibition)
1884:\u00c2\u00a0John St. John (Prohibition)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Benjamin Butler (Greenback)
1888:\u00c2\u00a0Clinton Fisk (Prohibition)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Alson Streeter (Union Labor)
1892:\u00c2\u00a0James Weaver (Populist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0John Bidwell (Prohibition)
1896:\u00c2\u00a0John Palmer (National Democratic)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Joshua Levering (Prohibition)
1900:\u00c2\u00a0John Woolley (Prohibition)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1904:\u00c2\u00a0Eugene Debs (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Silas Swallow (Prohibition)
1908:\u00c2\u00a0Eugene Debs (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Eugene Chafin (Prohibition)
1912:\u00c2\u00a0William Howard Taft (Republican)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1916:\u00c2\u00a0Allan Benson (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0James Hanly (Prohibition)
1920:\u00c2\u00a0Eugene Debs (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Parley Christiansen (Farmer-Labor)
1924:\u00c2\u00a0Robert La Follette (Progressive)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Herman Faris (Prohibition)
1928:\u00c2\u00a0Norman Thomas (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0William Foster (Communist)
1932:\u00c2\u00a0Norman Thomas (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0William Foster (Communist)
1936:\u00c2\u00a0William Lemke (Union)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Norman Thomas (Socialist)
1940:\u00c2\u00a0Norman Thomas (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Roger Babson (Prohibition)
1944:\u00c2\u00a0Norman Thomas (Socialist)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Claude Watson (Prohibition)
1948:\u00c2\u00a0Strom Thurmond (States’ Rights)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Henry Wallace (Progressive)
1952:\u00c2\u00a0Vincent Hallinan (Progressive)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Stuart Hamblen (Prohibition)
1956:\u00c2\u00a0T. Coleman Andrews (States’ Rights)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Eric Hass (Socialist Labor)
1960:\u00c2\u00a0Harry F. Byrd (States’ Rights)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Eric Hass (Socialist Labor)
1964:\u00c2\u00a0Eric Hass (Socialist Labor)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Clifton DeBerry (Socialist Workers)
1968:\u00c2\u00a0George Wallace (American Independent)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Henning Blomen (Socialist Labor)
1972:\u00c2\u00a0John Schmitz (American Independent)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Linda Jenness (Socialist Workers)
1976:\u00c2\u00a0Eugene McCarthy (Independent<\/strong>)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Roger MacBride (Libertarian)
1980:\u00c2\u00a0John B. Anderson (Independent<\/strong>)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Ed Clark (Libertarian)
1984:\u00c2\u00a0David Bergland (Libertarian)\u00c2\u00a0<\/strong>vs.\u00c2\u00a0Lyndon LaRouche (Independent)
1988:\u00c2\u00a0Ron Paul (Libertarian)<\/strong>\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Lenora Fulani (New Alliance)
1992:\u00c2\u00a0Ross Perot (Independent<\/strong>)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Andre Marrou (Libertarian)
1996:\u00c2\u00a0Ross Perot (Reform)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Ralph Nader (Green)
2000:\u00c2\u00a0Ralph Nader (Green<\/strong>)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Pat Buchanan (Reform)
2004:\u00c2\u00a0Ralph Nader (Independent)<\/strong>\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Michael Badnarik (Libertarian)
2008:\u00c2\u00a0Ralph Nader (Independent<\/strong>)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Bob Barr (Libertarian)
2012:\u00c2\u00a0Gary Johnson (Libertarian<\/strong>)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Jill Stein (Green)
2016:\u00c2\u00a0Gary Johnson (Libertarian<\/strong>)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Jill Stein (Green)
2020:\u00c2\u00a0Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian)\u00c2\u00a0vs.\u00c2\u00a0Howie Hawkins (Green<\/strong>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

If the 3rd and 4th place candidates were your only choices, who would you pick? As a whole, they show that third party voting tends to act as a dodge — because when face to face with a decision on actualities, I will have to side easily with the damnable major party candidate. The early […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25062","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25062","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25062"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25062\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":25389,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25062\/revisions\/25389"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25062"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25062"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25062"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}