{"id":20576,"date":"2021-02-07T16:25:23","date_gmt":"2021-02-07T23:25:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=20576"},"modified":"2021-02-07T16:25:23","modified_gmt":"2021-02-07T23:25:23","slug":"lorg-flexes-its-muscles-over-lpac-but-does-lpac-have-2-aces-up-its-sleeves","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2021\/02\/07\/lorg-flexes-its-muscles-over-lpac-but-does-lpac-have-2-aces-up-its-sleeves\/","title":{"rendered":"LORG flexes its muscles over LPAC, but does lpac have 2 aces up its sleeves?"},"content":{"rendered":"

I.\u00c2\u00a0 In one last poke in the eyes at the Larouche Movement (both of them), President Donald Trump — surely well aware of the pleas — pointedly did not pardon Julian Assange or Edward Snowden, nor “exonerate Larouche”.\u00c2\u00a0 He instead, in a massive rebuke to the Lyndon Larouche Movement (Lord as well as lpac), pardoned Steve Bannon — much derided in Larouchian literature — whose indictment was headlined with ” Good News for the Republic”.\u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0Newly free Steve Bannon goes on to become\u00c2\u00a0 an obvious point person in any ” Trumpian Patriot Party” or movement movement, reportedly already reunited…\u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0Surely points Trump’s side as against <\/span>Daniel Burke’s fantasy<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

Part of the question for Trump becomes… <\/a>What\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s less clear is whether he represents a major political tradition that can become persistent beyond his own active career \u00e2\u20ac\u201d like, say, Peronism in Argentina \u00e2\u20ac\u201d or might shrink into the kind of small and eccentric following that former Marxist\u00c2\u00a0Lyndon Larouche\u00c2\u00a0led into the right-wing fever swamps.<\/i><\/p>\n

The question in post Trump America –\u00c2\u00a0 can they sell their wares to the\u00c2\u00a0Trump loving masses such as… This letter to the editor writer who has “China” on the brain<\/a>?<\/p>\n

With a sold-out-to-China President Biden, a Senate majority Leader Mitch McConnel married to a Chinese lady from a Chinese business family, and a Baltimore mafia family House Majority Leader Pelosi who has had a Chinese \u00e2\u20ac\u0153chauffeur\u00e2\u20ac\u009d for 20 years, sounds like the country will be close to, if not actually, sold to China.<\/em><\/p>\n

On the other hand,\u00c2\u00a0Trump pardoned Stone — and as we see here<\/a>, Stone is Trump’s Larouche connection even as Gannon is his Lenin connection.<\/p>\n

II. Serious question: Would you rather have Lyndon LaRouche or Marjorie Taylor Greene serving in the United States Congress?<\/a>
Both are horrible but only one gets the pitch A down to 432 Hz
“Whoever wins we lose\u00e2\u20ac\u009d indeed
LaRouche’s schtick has more variety and staying power. Marjorie’s only got the one bit.
Lyndon could recite strange facts about classical music tuning. Marjorie, I would wager, cannot.
Only one of them is willing to stand up to the House of Windsor
I thought I would be entertained by Marjorie but unfortunately she’s looking more and more like a snuff film than the campy horror flick I had imagined.
Given Lyndon LaRouche is dead, I’d say LaRouche.<\/p>\n

Someone must clue him in<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\u00c2\u00a0So it is… <\/a> \u00c2\u00a0It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s like Madison Grant and David Icke and Louis Beam had a baby, and that baby grew up reading Lyndon Larouche\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s laser beam theories<\/em><\/p>\n

Marjorie Taylor Greene, at this moment\u00c2\u00a0 all the rage.\u00c2\u00a0 And\u00c2\u00a0James Follows raises the issue with the question —<\/a> who is the Democratic Party equivalent?<\/p>\n

My two answers are … in recent memory, Cynthia McKinney counts well enough\u00c2\u00a0 and that the current Congress the answer is telling of Republican Party malfunction<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 In the comments here, Larry McDonald gets a mention (refer to him here because he spoke against Larouche on the Congressional floor) and then of course… There is Larouche.<\/p>\n

A bit of irony pops up with\u00c2\u00a0This “boomer” insult<\/a> — instigated by someone making a Larouche reference by way of insulting Marjorie Taylor Greene –in that for the past generation, “boomer” was a Larouchian insult — the better to stoke the egos of the quickly aging Larouche Youth Movement.<\/p>\n

Another question is… Previous antecedents for qanon.\u00c2\u00a0 In the Obama years, an online “secret insider source” blog appeared by the name of “Ulsterman”.\u00c2\u00a0 One difference is that the Larouchies cited Ulsterman’s revelations where qanon was dumped on at least a few times.\u00c2\u00a0 One other conspiracy outlet that seems to have fizzled — The Zeitgeist Movement.<\/p>\n

We see a podcast series cited as an\u00c2\u00a0examination into well known Quaker Burlesque dancer<\/a>, which evidentally ends at <\/span>The Lyndon LaRouche PAC, which typically spends down most of the money it raises each cycle, ended 2020 with $49 in the bank, a record low.<\/a><\/p>\n

III.
And it is thus….<\/a>. Donald Trump was just compared to Lyndon Larouche on TV…such an insult to Mr. Larouche.\u00c2\u00a0 Headlines come in… Stick to the Benedict Arnold angle<\/a>.
Unsure what specifically is called ” sad”<\/a>.
A reporter on @CNN just now compared the president with Lyndon LaRouche LMAO
Many will have to Google that name.
Sad!
Oh so<\/a>. Almost snapped my own neck turning my head when CNN did a Lyndon Larouche name drop
Douglas Brinkley<\/a>
LORGers respond to the one mention of Larouche as sign of guns ablazing against Larouche.<\/a>
It was to be expected that CNN would line up its guns at the LaRouche movement, as it is a coherent movement and with much credibility gained despite the campaign against the image of the movement for What support globalization, neoliberalism the Anti-national state<\/em><\/p>\n

Further commentary saying the same thing — see Doug Brinkley dropping the name Larouche<\/a> and sticking to Benedict Arnold.<\/p>\n

IV. Memories<\/a>
I saw the LaRouche movement in Melbourne do exactly this one.
May 2005 paper headline: NUCLEAR WAR THIS MONTH!!!
June 2005 paper headline: LAROUCHE PREVENTS NUCLEAR WAR WITH TIMELY WARNING!
Interesting item to cite for opposition to Trump’s second impeachment.<\/a> Many times, legislators, staff, the public had reason for fear. LaRouche’s cult attacked, the East wing fire, post-9\/11 fears, threats to kill us\/hurt others. You always wonder
\"Screenshot_20210115-173952\"<\/a>. Men never want to have the Lyndon LaRouche Talk.
I had the Lyndon LaRouche Talk with my parents as a teenager.
Have had this exact conversation but I was talking about Huey Long.
Well, we all make our compromises when we get into a committed relationship.<\/p>\n

And… <\/a>Got Lydon Larouche emails for months when I was 18 because a dude had beautiful green eyes. Lost interest once I began reading the Lydon Larouche emails.<\/p>\n

And<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0 In the 80s it was Lyndon Larouche and his followers. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d yell in an airport \u00e2\u20ac\u0153do you believe in a strong defense\u00e2\u20ac\u009d. If you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d say yes you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d get sucked into a bizarre world of conspiracy. Wierdest was queen of England head of drug trafficking to get US back.<\/p>\n

More\u00c2\u00a0Here:<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0 I was just reminded of inauguration day 2001, freezing my toes off on 14th St in my knee high Docs, the crowd had so many different agendas (Free Tibet, LaRouche supporters, disgruntled liberals, cannabis legalization). For real people started wailing and crying when it happened.<\/p>\n

Competition abounds in the field of pamphleteering<\/a>.<\/p>\n

And… I <\/a>remember the Lyndon LaRouche people, especially on college campuses. They were so nuts<\/p>\n

In class too! <\/a>\u00c2\u00a0Some Larouche people interrupted a physics class to yell about how Newton was a fraud<\/p>\n

Hm. <\/a>Was in 7th grade, walking in front of the post office when of his fans tried to convince us to support him. From what I remember, he thought the British were trying to re-invade, and didn’t have friends growing up (had conversations with “greats” on lonely walks).<\/p>\n

Heh.<\/a> bf: one night we were on the phone and she hit her toe on the cat perch she says you guys leave out in the middle of the living room and she just let out this string of curse words that ended in LYNDON FUCKJACK LAROUCHE and that’s when i knew i lov– mom: she talks on the phone?<\/p>\n

\u00c2\u00a0So more … <\/a>Boy this brings back memories; the Larouchies were always around when I was working on Central America solidarity demos & campaigns. They were nuts. One time one of them got up to interrupt a speaker by shouting “this event is organized by the imperial presidency!” (cont). some people laughed, some people shouted for him to sit down – the speaker (whose name I forget) just said smthg like “ok, let me know how much Reagan’s going to pay me for speaking tonight.” They were so weird.<\/span><\/p>\n

1980 I was picking up extra money working at nights at little grocery store in NH—they kept trying to set up a table inside the store to talk to customers-were a pain always tossing them out-Reagan Bush primary elections–One day a goofy looking guy comes in (more). The guy wants to stand in the store and talk to voters–he said: “I’m George Bush’s son–I said “Hi, I’m Herbert F.’s son–now get your ass out of my store” I tossed George W. Bush—out of a store—didn’t even know who he was at the time–kind of proud of it in retrospect<\/span><\/p>\n

I didn’t doubt it.I actually went–in late 70s to a meeting held by loon ball referenced in the story, “Lydon LaRouche.”A French foreign student with whom I had become friendly insisted I was being led astray by bourgeois feminists and that I needed to join his group to “make + the revolution.” After two meetings, she and I weren’t friends anymore bc he was a dogmatic lunatic and his zombie followers creeped me out. But I miss the days when there were so many groups “making the revolution,” even though that’s one of the reasons it never got made.<\/p>\n

How to ditch em <\/a>My wife has some hilarious stories of the time she became friends with the local LaRouche cult. She had to have a friend tell them she was dead to get them to go away.<\/p>\n

\u00c2\u00a0I guess now they have to wander over to OANN… <\/a> used to see the occasional guy with crazy larouche signs across from the Fox News studios on Sixth Ave in NYC<\/p>\n

V.\u00c2\u00a0 Date line WA January 6thy.. here…<\/a><\/p>\n

I’ve been meaning to look into where LaRouche folks were going after his death. Kinda disappointing they just went MAGA. At least the British are still to blame.<\/em><\/p>\n

Richard Williams Burden weighs in —<\/a> from afar.<\/p>\n

LPAC expressed outage at Lady Gaga’s role at inauguration, as did random left wing Twitterer: Aristotelian:\u00c2\u00a0 La<\/em><\/a>dy Gaga singing the national anthem in 4\/4 instead of the normal 3\/4 is an appropriate musical metaphor: Just as she re-arranged a song that celebrates slavery, neoliberal Democrats are trying to remix the USA to make it woke, when in reality it’s an empire founded on genocide.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

this is almost A=432 lyndon larouche level shit.<\/em><\/p>\n

Brushing aside The Proud Boys as (a) CIA and (b)\u00c2\u00a0British by way of Punk.<\/a><\/p>\n

I guess\u00c2\u00a0Richard William Burden<\/a> has.<\/p>\n

VI. Finally… How Trump fulfilled the promise of Larouche and gained their trust and loyalty is explained. Trump has secretly overthrown the Queen is certainly a creative story.<\/a>
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It runs against counter-veiling\u00c2\u00a0matters. Funny way for Trump to show his antipathy at British Power, eh?<\/a><\/p>\n

. Is the tshirt image Lyndon?<\/a>. Or just some other bald old white guy?<\/p>\n

Daniel Burke on the difference between the Civil Rights Protesters of the 60s and MAGA incursion of 1-6-21.<\/a>
Rebuttal: It was an overall cultural break down. Even if Trump had classical music on Jan.6, 2021, people where already breaking into the Capitol, at 12:40. But, however, it seems to me that why didn’t anyone walk up to Trump during or after his speech and said they are breaking into the C<\/p>\n

VII. Noted: LORG has Pennsylvania State Rep. Diamond , Keyed at a Manhattan Project webcast.<\/p>\n

LORG also has snagged\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Daniel Estulin<\/a>, leaving LPAC with one less asset.\u00c2\u00a0 Getting frisky, we see LORG\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>responding to LPAC tweets<\/a> with “real source” gusto.<\/span><\/p>\n

The one thing LPAC does appear to have in its corner is Helga helming LORG,\u00c2\u00a0tweeting out Onion headlines<\/a> and wondering if it’s true.<\/p>\n

One more thing lpac has going over lorg can be seen in This banner thrown out at the January 6th event<\/a>:\u00c2\u00a0 LORG’s banner would have to have a more complicated url directing everyone to nation builder dot com.<\/p>\n

Not a happy prediction for lorg or lpac– <\/a>But a sign of who has the conspiratorial headspace right now.<\/p>\n

VIII.\u00c2\u00a0 The red brown alliance analyzed (with mention of Cynthia McKinney) — your mileage may vary — <\/a> and a\u00c2\u00a0Media bias analysis\/ report<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 They both refer to LPAC, not as yet LORG.<\/p>\n

A curiosity… We see LORG and LPAC take the line, entangled in a Proud Boy turning out to be a snitch, that the events of January 6 were some kind of deep state inside job.\u00c2\u00a0 And reactions to that news include\u00c2\u00a0a recitation of Larouche as CIA<\/a>.<\/p>\n

(Someone has to tell me if\u00c2\u00a0this podcast is worthwhile.)<\/a><\/p>\n

Australia prides itself that\u00c2\u00a0their branch of larouchies look very American and not native<\/a>.<\/p>\n

IX. A left wing podcaster \/ youtuber brings in Daniel Burke<\/a> based off Snowden and Assange activism.
Holy crap why do you have that insane LaRouche PAC cult tool on your channel?<\/i>
LaRouche is sketchy, deserves an episode all to himself. Dude operated like a plant, fooled Nader and others with fake left speak kinda like Stoller is trying now. A lot of weird stuff out there about him.<\/i><\/p>\n

X.\u00c2\u00a0 Stirring Hitler debates.<\/a><\/i><\/p>\n

Pontifex:\u00c2\u00a0 didn’t say that he’s alive in Argentina, but he didn’t kill himself, do you have any fathom of what you’re talking about? Mind explaining to me why when DNA technology was invented post-War and the soviets tested his body it said it was a woman?<\/p>\n

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Hitler ruined the German peoples lives quicker than jews<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Yeah he literally created Israel and smeared the German peoples name. A lot of people suffered and he ultimately loss like a coward.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lol you’re a coward for having this mentality u pussy<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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What for being brave and winning with ways to save the people instead of create a worse situation?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then you should know hitler isn’t a coward<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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he didn’t kill himself bro lmfao, there’s no evidence you’re just repeating a lie<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Lol fine say he escaped. Why did everybody face charges for what he did? You think that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s brave?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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everybody? this isn’t even true, countless high ranking nazis were just never found, many others got pleas and started working for the US and Russia, I don’t see how a bunch of them escaping somehow makes them cowards, you seem to really hate national socialists, I wonder why.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Chief Kirk<\/span>