{"id":1278,"date":"2004-02-10T14:18:49","date_gmt":"2004-02-10T21:18:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=1278"},"modified":"2004-02-10T14:18:49","modified_gmt":"2004-02-10T21:18:49","slug":"james-carville-on-zell-miller-on-the-democrats","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2004\/02\/10\/james-carville-on-zell-miller-on-the-democrats\/","title":{"rendered":"James Carville on Zell Miller on the Democrats"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a name=\"001873\"><\/a>As a rule, avoid <i>Crossfire<\/i>.  Not much of substance ever comes out of the cross-current debates, and there isn&#8217;t a whole lot of surprises that are going to come out of the mouth of Carville, Carlson, Novak, or that other guy.  (All apologies to &#8220;that other guy&#8221;, but I can&#8217;t think of his name.)<\/p>\n<p>But, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/TRANSCRIPTS\/0311\/04\/cf.00.html\">here&#8217;s<\/a> a good exchange from last November anyway, where James Carville <i>does<\/i> hit on something:<\/p>\n<p><i>CARLSON: I understand that. But I want to put up, actually, an astute observation about your party from one of its own members, Senator Zell Miller, still a Democrat, of Georgia. Here&#8217;s what he wrote yesterday in the &#8220;Wall Street Journal&#8221;. And I&#8217;d be interested to know what you think of this.<\/p>\n<p>And I&#8217;m quoting, &#8220;I find it hard to believe, but these naive nine&#8221; &#8212; the nine presidential candidates on your side &#8212; &#8220;have managed to combine the worst feature of the McGovern campaign &#8212; the president is a liar and we must have peace at any cost &#8212; with the worst feature of the Mondale campaign &#8212; watch your wallet, we&#8217;re going to raise your taxes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Losers, says Zell Miller. You can&#8217;t write him off as a right wing whacko, can you? <\/p>\n<p>&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>CARVILLE: Can I put that quote back up there, please? Can we do that? We have the technical ability to put it back up? Because I think there&#8217;s something interesting on there. <\/p>\n<p>The McGovern campaign, worst feature, calling Richard Nixon a liar. Now where would someone get that idea from, that Richard Nixon is a liar? <\/p>\n<p>I tell you what, I bet you that Bush has lied more in a month than Nixon lied in his entire lifetime. <\/p>\n<p>JACOBUS: That&#8217;s a bet that you&#8217;d lose, James. <\/p>\n<p>CARVILLE: Why would anybody get the idea that Dick Nixon was a liar? <\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Senator Zell Miller, DINO and conservative Democrat (beyond &#8220;conservative Democrat&#8221;, but never mind) of Georgia, retiring this year.  If you look at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-srv\/politics\/elections\/2004\/delegateCount.html\">the AP totals<\/a> of delegates, you&#8217;ll see that &#8220;Other&#8221; has one delegate pledged to them.  This is a &#8220;superdelegate&#8221; (to give more weight to the insiders after McGovern and Carter, the Democrats vetted the process by giving their Congressional Caucuss votes &#8212; so that they could nominate Walter Mondale, I &#8230; <i>guess<\/i>).  This is Zell Miller&#8217;s vote.  He&#8217;s voting for George W. Bush in the Democratic Primary.<\/p>\n<p>More on Zell Miller in a later post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a rule, avoid Crossfire. Not much of substance ever comes out of the cross-current debates, and there isn&#8217;t a whole lot of surprises that are going to come out of the mouth of Carville, Carlson, Novak, or that other guy. (All apologies to &#8220;that other guy&#8221;, but I can&#8217;t think of his name.) 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