{"id":10657,"date":"2012-11-04T13:31:16","date_gmt":"2012-11-04T20:31:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/?p=10657"},"modified":"2012-11-04T13:31:41","modified_gmt":"2012-11-04T20:31:41","slug":"the-concerted-denialist-efforts-from-the-org-regarding-why-we-left","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.struat.com\/election\/2012\/11\/04\/the-concerted-denialist-efforts-from-the-org-regarding-why-we-left\/","title":{"rendered":"the concerted denialist efforts from the org regarding “Why We Left”, and Election 2012: Kesha Rogers in BREAK mode"},"content":{"rendered":"

I.<\/strong> \u00c2\u00a0I had from the start understood “fall” as the latest incarnation of revenire, retour, ace, friend… but it was hard to really care or draw any attention to the postings. \u00c2\u00a0So I waffled on on pointing out one jarring line of absurdity, and decided to skip at the movement. \u00c2\u00a0He claimed to have “heard” or “seen” Summer Shields at a deployment in So-Cal. \u00c2\u00a0This line of misdirection came right off the heels where the LYMers had verified the notable disappearances of members.
\nI have one thought on the repeated call from the disingenuous Larouchie’s call for contributors of “Why We Left” to post at factnet: \u00c2\u00a0I wouldn’t. \u00c2\u00a0There may be something to gain from working out differences with someone of recent LYM membership who holds it as true overall but with exaggerations or overly dramatic fluouishes of emphasis, but there isn’t any in tangling with concerted denialists of the whole affair.<\/p>\n

Other odd factnet posting… a claim that “there have been low level members” who’ve left due to WWL followed by the insistence that there’s been a sole one. \u00c2\u00a0Interesting. \u00c2\u00a0This brings us back to the “If I reach just one, it’ll be worth it”, except that even that doesn’t matter much – or matter to be the most important aspect of “Why We Left”. \u00c2\u00a0It’s a witnessing, and one chapter written in the history of the org.<\/p>\n

II. \u00c2\u00a0<\/strong> Also out of factnet … The image of Larouche Planet… “Those are good people” “not deserving of” this. \u00c2\u00a0Well, it can’t really be helped. \u00c2\u00a0These deployments are the primary point of contact the public has with this political organization, and unless there’s a request to … say… photoshop over the faces a generic face (two dots for eyes and one line for mouth within a circle) — it’s apt political commentary to place them on a Martian surface. \u00c2\u00a0What wouldn’t fit is if you were to photoshop Hitler Mustaches over their face — though even that would have its slim advantage in the “I know you are but what am I” focus.<\/p>\n

The latest PO Tour Stops…<\/strong><\/p>\n

The final word on the elderly woman who knocked over the signage.<\/a>..<\/p>\n

they’ve disappeared from Oly too. Used to a weekly occurence at the downtown PO. Idiots.
\nHow in the hell are they going to discover sex? If they do, there’s no way it’s consensual.
\nSeriously, almost as annoying as Randites.
\nThey’re on Whidbey Island . . . and the locals are not liking that.
\nThey had their protest tables on Bainbridge Island’s Town & Country market last Saturday. They were baiting motorists by yelling “Shame on you!” as their troll tactic. Annoying fucks. I bet they also have big Romney photos with Hitler mustaches ready just in case he becomes president.
\nThey used to hang out at the post office on 145th and Aurora. I got into it with them more than once, but the best thing I ever saw was the elderly Jewish gentleman with his concentration camp numbers on his arm berate them over their signs and shoving those numbers in their faces.
\nNever see them in Utah though….
\nThey set up at 23rd and Jackson by my apartment a few times in the spring\/early summer. Then one day there was a fistfight over it. Took the police like an hour to sort the whole mess out.
\nI haven’t seen them since.
\nMy conservative friend once insisted to me that the Tea Party doesn’t have a racism problem. According to him, the people with “Obongo” signs are all just LaRouchies hanging out with the Teabaggers.
\nI once took all the reading material on a Larouchebag’s table and threw it in the busy street.
\nA difference between this lady and the goobers who generally steal or deface signs: She took her lumps for it. She dared them to find her, got arrested, and didn’t whine about it. She accepted the consequences of her actions and didn’t run away and hide like a coward.
\nshe’d just had it, dammit! ladouche has been running for president since she was a little girl, and she’s just so fucking sick of him.<\/p>\n

Nancy Lack… Charges Dropped. \u00c2\u00a0See<\/a> here<\/a> and<\/a> here<\/a> and<\/a> here<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0and<\/a> here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

The people who took the time to create horrible posters such as these, have minds that are clouded with hatred, anger and fear. They just want to spread their warped sense of politics.
\nNews 8 asked Lack what made her so angry, and she said, “Hitler and the fact that they would do that to the President, the standing President.” \u00c2\u00a0A passion was born out of her experience living through World War II as a child, the rations here in America, the fear of attack, Hitler.
\n“What an evil monster this was,” Lack said.
\nif it was a Bush sign she would have got life in the slammer<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Dateline Guilford<\/a>
\n\"\"“We’ve got to keep fighting the fight,” says one activist. […]
\nThey seem to be getting mixed reviews from the cars passing by. Some honk in agreement and give a thumbs up signal to the activists. Others shout angrily out their windows in protest, using some choice words not suitable for print.<\/p>\n

Magaret Fairchild and Pete Zuppardi chime in the comments section.<\/p>\n

Thom Hartmann forum discusses the “Impeach Obama Movement”.<\/a>
\nI ran into a man representing this cause outside the Post Office, and found myself in a heated debate. \u00c2\u00a0He presented conflicting arguments and wasn’t familiar with the Citizen’s United Decision
\nWow, I wondered if LaRouche had finally gotten his space ship for his crew of loonies. \u00c2\u00a0But, he’s back and now it is to “impeach Obama.” \u00c2\u00a0He is crazy enough to try to out Tea Party the Tea Party.
\nI would be on board with impeaching Obama… as long as they impeach the ghost of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Cheney\/Bush first…<\/p>\n

Hm<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0I saw people holding Lyndon LaRouche signs as recently as last week. I think we’re in for a surprise.<\/p>\n

III. \u00c2\u00a0Elections 2012.<\/strong> \u00c2\u00a0On the eve of another Presidential (and many a down ticket) election, we get word that…
\n\u00c2\u00a0He did it in 1976. \u00c2\u00a0Now he’s holding another one in 2012. \u00c2\u00a0An election eve press conference<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0The cult runs in circles. \u00c2\u00a0<\/em>It occurred without incident.<\/p>\n

Also noted, Larouche has declared Romney the lesser of two evils<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0More or less. \u00c2\u00a0No call to vote for him, though. \u00c2\u00a0No small hope that a Romney victory would bring with it the small hope of the Larouche org reaching his administration for advisement, or the sudden appearance of Glass Steagall on the dias.<\/p>\n

Diane Sare, sure to remark on Chris Christie touring storm devasted New Jersey with President Obama in tow. \u00c2\u00a0Or, I suppose the line is that if you think that the storm was devastated, wait until we get THERMONUCLEAR WAR.<\/p>\n

It looks like Kesha Rogers is on the verge of victory, if you just judge the online commentary.<\/p>\n

No. I don’t agree with him, doubt you do either. However it wouldn’t surprise me a bit that you agree with someone his polar opposite.<\/a>
\n\u00c2\u00a0I can’t possibly imagine what the\u00c2\u00a0polar opposite<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0of Lyndon LaRouche would b<\/a>e.<\/p>\n

I go through and pick them each individually. This time I had one Green to vote for as well because we had a La Rouche follower as a dem candidate against Pete Olson (Rep -22). Olson will win easily but I still refused to vote for her – she went around hanging up those Hitler photos of Obama<\/a>.<\/p>\n

One, you know who I will endorse, except for the loney tunes of Kesha Rogers, the LaRouche cult candidate running as a Democrat, and a couple of others, but for the most part no one is on pins and needles waiting for an endorsement from m<\/a>e.<\/p>\n

Washington Monthly blogger posts on the Tennessee Senate candidate, and we get this<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0The Texas Democratic Party is similarly in bad shape; the House candidate running in my open district (Ron Paul’s seat) is a Lyndon LaRouche ‘Democrat’ who thinks Obama should be impeached. Up until now, I’ve lived in fairly safe ‘blue’ districts; I hate not having a House candidate I can support. \u00c2\u00a0Personally, I don’t think of these people as jokes, but as dirty tricks. My gut tells me that Alvin Greene (the dud who ‘beat out’ Vic Rawl to run against Jim DeMint in South Carolina) was a successful ‘dirty trick’.
\nPeter C, the LaRouchie who’s running as a (D) is in TX-22, Kesha Rogers, is going for the seat currently held by Pete Olson. The (D) candidate for Ron Paul’s seat (TX-14) is Nick Lampson, who represented this area before the district lines were redrawn in 2003.
\nThat said, Kesha Rogers is a real piece of work. This is her second run for the seat, having now twice won the (D) primary.\u00c2\u00a0Here she is (on the right, with the Obama-as-Hitler poster, in 2010.\u00c2\u00a0There’s a lot of “operation Chaos”-type crossover voting going on there, just to fnck with the local Dems.
\nI showed up at the polls during the primary expecting to vote for Lampson, and luckily I’d also looked at Rogers and George, so I voted for the person who better represents my views. I think I’ll write in George this time around, and start building a pocket of sanity for next time. At least, I’ll ensure that the voters in my precinct know ahead of time what their primary and general election options are. I think this is a case of having to become the Democratic Party in my locality.<\/p>\n

Hope springs eternal, and\u00c2\u00a0Harley Schlanger describes the Kesha Rogers campaign<\/a>.
\nOutside of the Obama-Romney campaign, there is almost no visible presence of any campaigns in the Houston, Texas area, as the Nov. 6 election draws near\u00e2\u20ac\u2122except for that of LaRouche Democrat Kesha Rogers, the Democratic nominee in the 22nd District. Rogers\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 campaign has been everywhere in the district, from boisterous rallies at well-traveled intersections, to door-to-door deployments in the suburban neighborhoods, which make up the bulk of the district. Organizers for the campaign are finding that many people are familiar with Rogers and her fight to remove Obama, though awareness that she is on the ballot is not yet universal, especially as this has been historically a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Republican district,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and many of the voters mindlessly pull the voting machine lever for a straight Republican ticket. That is changing, as the Rogers campaign has made clear that the issue this time is much larger than party loyalty.<\/em><\/p>\n

Wikipedia Request for Page Protection<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0Damned Kesha Rogers! \u00c2\u00a0I don’t see any recent vandalism, but whatever is necessary.<\/p>\n

a semi-endorsement of Kesha Rogers<\/a>?<\/p>\n

And<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0There really weren’t any competitive races on my ballot. I’m pretty sure I live in *the* most conservative zip code in America. I\u00c2\u00a0was<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0in Ron Paul’s district but starting next year I’ve been redistricted into another one and I have no respect for the incumbent (R) but his opponent is absolutely insane.
\nHoly crap, I see what you mean about Kesha Rogers. She’s the democrat candidate? Wait, what?
\nWhat are LeDouche Democrats? Like, Douches, but Le New? Holy Fuck do I miss living in Texas. The weirdest and most awesome state in the union.
\nYea, the campaign signs are fun. Half of them just say “KESHA ROGERS – LAROUCHE DEMOCRAT.” I laugh every time\u00e2\u20ac\u201dwho the hell knows what a LaRouche Democrat is?<\/p>\n

There’s also someone here going around cutting the middle of campaign signs out and replacing them with these:
\nRe-Elect Guns and Tacos for Mayhem! I’d get behind the food portion. #Dunlavy #Westheimer<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0by\u00c2\u00a0kalebdf<\/a>, on Flickr<\/p>\n

…. The other race to watch in a Kentucky State Senate race that amounts to… this\u00c2\u00a0Bottom line:\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Perry Clark may be an embarrassingly bad state senator but Chris Thieneman is embarrassingly worse<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0There are residential issues at stake with Chris Thieneman. \u00c2\u00a0He may lose even if he wins.
\nWorth noting, Perry Clark takes a more “Progressive” stance on the issue of marijuana policy than the larouche org and… \u00c2\u00a0Marijuana politics being deployed by Thieneman<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0Interesting.<\/p>\n

In retro election memories… The problems of running a third party campaign, 1986.
\nBut Stevenson\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Solidarity Party candidate for secretary of state received just 17 percent against the LaRouche Democrat\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s 15 percent<\/a>.
\nSee too here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

The Green Party has a lesson to learn from the Larouchies<\/a>, says this blogger.
\nThe followers of Lydon LaRouche, with their “President Obama as Hilter” shtick, manage to keep themselves enough in the public eye that many people can tell you they’ve seen them, even if they don’t know exactly who they are. While I’m not advocating that the Green Party sink to the level of the LaRouchies, surely they can mount a more active and effective public outreach campaign than posting flyers outside of a Seattle bookstore.<\/p>\n

Commenting on Joss Whedon’s “Romney Zombie Apocalypse” youtube sensation<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0I did as well, now what happens when LaRouche wins?<\/em> \u00c2\u00a0Never too early to consider 2016… listed as \u00c2\u00a0Possible 2016 candidates. \u00c2\u00a0Nope<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0He’s done with the runnings.<\/p>\n

To Ohio Voters<\/a>: the countless highly credible, intelligent, responsible people who’ve spoken up about their concerns on this to be whacked-out\u00c2\u00a0Larouchies<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0and UFO cultists<\/p>\n

The final question… the final point within the Larouche Slate elections… how will Kesha Rogers do against Pete Olson, and how will it compare to 2010? \u00c2\u00a0Will the inclusion of former Ron Paul voters in the redrawn district attract votes to Kesha Rogers? \u00c2\u00a0Or will the more partisan advantage off-set this theoretical gain? \u00c2\u00a0We will see in a couple days.<\/p>\n

IV. \u00c2\u00a0Media Appearances.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jeff Steinberg pops over on CSPAN. \u00c2\u00a0As mentioned with\u00c2\u00a0Cliff Kincaid doing a bit of connection on an Obama appointee — who spoke to a US-Arab policy center, as did Jeffrey Steinberg once<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0A fairly random and recurring theme:
\nLaRouche is considered the intellectual author of the 9\/11 Truth movement because he questioned whether Arabs or Muslims had staged the attack. \u00c2\u00a0<\/em>Considered by whom? \u00c2\u00a0Though this is the one bit I’ll go with:
\nThis panel discussion with Steinberg was\u00c2\u00a0covered<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0by the C-SPAN television network, but the moderator of the panel did not mention the more controversial parts of Steinberg\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s biography<\/strong>.
\n<\/em>If he did, Steinberg probably wouldn’t be there in the first place, so toxic is Larouche.
\nFrom “Window on the Real World”, Real World defined by the likes of Cliff Kincaid<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Webster Tarpley appeared on\u00c2\u00a0Alex Jones on October 18, 19th<\/a>… did not bring up Larouche.
\nHarley Schlanger appeared on a Pro-Silver podcast<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0to promote our doom and demise.<\/p>\n

William Jones on Press T<\/a>V.
\nLawrence Freeman gets coverage in Russia T<\/a>V.<\/p>\n

Press TV interview with Michael Billington<\/a>.<\/p>\n

edward spannaus on iran’s press tv<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0Linked again her<\/a>e.<\/p>\n

And then we have<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0Dennis Fetcho, aka “The Fetch”, is an American ex-patriot living in Amman, Jordan.\u00c2\u00a0 He is the author of the\u00c2\u00a0Illuminatus Observor<\/a>, a blog regarded by many as simply the finest Hermetic Qaballa blog in all of blogdom.\u00c2\u00a0 The Fetch also has a second site called”Inside The Eye Live.com<\/a>“<\/em>
\nIntelligent media for the politically aware.<\/em>
\nGuest: Harley Schlanger of LaRouche PAC<\/p>\n

\u00c2\u00a0Justin Raimando<\/a>: \u00c2\u00a0The Arbabsiar \u00e2\u20ac\u0153plot\u00e2\u20ac\u009d to kill the Saudi ambassador is such a transparently phony conspiracy theory that not even\u00c2\u00a0Lyndon LaRouche<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0would touch it with a ten foot pole<\/em>. \u00c2\u00a0Sure, but mostly because it doesn’t fit into his political narrative. \u00c2\u00a0I do find it fascinating that Raimando \u00c2\u00a0linked to the alex jones interview disparangingly.<\/p>\n

A disgression from David Lindse<\/a>y.
\nI don’t understand\u00c2\u00a0this post from Howie G<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Who the heck is “We”?<\/p>\n

V. \u00c2\u00a0Other commentary.<\/strong>
\nSynarchis<\/a>m.
\nI’m waiting for LaRouche’s people to start demanding that countries base their currency on the Tungsten Standar<\/a>d.
\nOn Donald Trump stunt making<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0He was probably in league with the British Royal Family. \u00e2\u20ac\u201dLyndon La Rouche<\/em>. Reply. GhostBuggy October 23, 2012 at 4:02 pm. Holy shit, don’t even mention him. The LaRouchites will be in here like lightning, and that’s an infestation that
\nSome actual history of NAWAP<\/a>A.
\nOn the Occupy Wall Street Forum<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Why are any of you even talking to this LaRouche nutcase?
\n<\/em>Discussing Nero<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Regarding Nero, Obama had a dream early in life which always remained with him. He was being pursued by a leopard and ran into a forest> When he turned around to face the animal, he had transformed into a frightening being – faceless. Larouche and varous other prophets have made this connection between Obama and Nero. It is interesting. It is not frivolous stuff however.
\nOn Libertarian<\/a>s. \u00c2\u00a0These people need a cult to join. Are you listening, Larouchies?
\nOn Tea Party thing. \u00c2\u00a0“We know who the Larouchies are. \u00c2\u00a0They’re Democrats<\/a>.”
\nAnd one more note, from factnet…\u00c2\u00a0Kathrine discusses her experiences in the French org<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0Worth a gander.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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