the “Man versus Animal” canard, take 5,541

Are these guys really back on the “Difference Between Man and the Animals” kick? 

There is another point: In this fight, you can never quit, because the alternative is so horrible. To accept the conception of man as evil, is, to give up on the human race, and then, we are all animals. And one of the things that I have learned, from working with Lyndon LaRouche for nearly 40 years, is: If we make the commitment to never ever stop fighting, as long as there is one of us left, we are not going to be defeated. And when you get to a time like this, where everything else has failed, that quality of leadership will move the population. […]

And Lincoln is an example of the good person, who would never stop fighting. So, one of the things people are learning from Lyndon LaRouche, besides the beautiful developments in science and Classical culture, is, that a person who is a real leader, never stops developing himself, and never gives up. And that’s why I know, we’ll eventually win this fight, because we’re not going to quit.”  — Harley Schlanger

Hm.
Time to Prepare for the new Dark Age.

Man versus Animal.  It’s a peculiar thing.  We’re constantly running the same ground over and over and over again.  So, I’ll cue this up again, again:

Years ago, someone — college aged — posted something on youtube.  An interview with a LYMer manning a table just outside an Art College (or maybe the UW) in Seattle.  It was this passive allowance with mock agreement on whatever the LYMer said, a phony phone number exchanged, all leading to an agreement to a meeting / encounter that never happened.  There was a line in the video that was quite good — the interviewer asked, “What do you think of the students’ art here?”  The LYMer answered with a feh, and a statement that “They aren’t even interested in launching a new Renissance!”

Cue two paragraphs marked by some Larouchie who checked out the local library’s copy of “Dialectical Economics” sometime over the past three decades with “Bucephalus Blue Award Winner”, and if this is familiar it’s because I posted it here already.:
Does the increasing productivity of labor as we know it signify that the need for human productive activity will vanish? Will humanity become a daisy-clad mass of strolling Lotus-eaters? Quite the contrary. At first we will have escaped one predicament to encounter one more awesome and demanding. To one who views the matter from that standpoint, we freely concede that man is increasingly to become a prisoner of the effort to meet his new needs for existence. However, from a human point of view, the significance of this fact is at precise odds with that attributed to it by the bestialized hippy of present-day advanced capitalist culture. What human being would wish to become a dog before the hearth? Only the view of oneself as a beast could inspire the hope of freedom from labor. There is no need to worry that man would persist long in the state of bestialization desired by the Mansion Family. He would soon cease to exist. To be human is to locate one’s identity for society in the activity of perfection; to rise to a condition in which that perfection is advancing at a more rapid rate, in which more human quality is demanded of one, in which one increasingly gains social identity because of one’s human powers, is to fulfill everything that an actually human person could desire.  At this point we should recognize that we have struck upon evidence that socialist society is not the final, perfected form of human society.  It is merely the beginning of a series of human societies distinct from the bestialized forms from which we now have the potential to emerge.  The fact that material existence upon socialist society must have a mediated form, even though that mediation is a classwide institution, is […]

Etc. etc.

Steve, January 1997, on this blog.:  Maybe the most important philosophical question LaRouche addresses is “What is the difference between the human and the animal”. Do you know how he answers that? If you do, then a lot of the other stuff will become more clear.

A reach over toward Huxley, or more properly a kidnapping of Huxley.  I gather a mark of the Animal is that s/he takes Spa Treatments and Nature Walks.
The Man, evolved as he is (as seen on circa 2003  21st Century Science and Technology back page that I made note of on this blog already) uses a more efficient juicer to make orange juice, as opposed to squashing the orange with his hand in the way of the monkey.

 An element of “Rules for thee but not for me” creeps in to this elitism framework.  It’s seen in the dismissal of junk pop culture as debased.  Then I see a member of the Larouche Wikipedia Team quote “Professional Wrestler” Rowdy Roddy Piper.
Various crude sexual references as insult seem to imply a bestilization all its own.

The equation seems to have taken an odd turn with regard to politics.  Cheney was a “Beast Man”.  Obama and Rand Paul are merely “Fascists”.

Also, tipping is for the animalsDo NOT trust LaRouche! They were supporting Hillary Clinton for president!
They lie. He is an economist, and his people can’t even leave a GD 15% tip!
Watch Josh Reeves’ documentary: THE SECRET RIGHT
Is that a documentary that EXPOSES the paltry amounts given by various Extremist groups?


Cover-29.XP6 (Page 3)

That poster is confusing. Is he supposed to be stupid (lazy eye) or terrifying (Hitler mustache)?

Both, I guess.

Hm.  How many people have to die before Vice President Biden admits that the President is stupid, insane, or both? How many deaths does he want on his conscience?
I think Rand Paul is being inserted into the Presidential Succession line somehow.
And since all politics are local, Fort Bend County’s own Kesha Rogers, the smug queen of the LaRouchites, has taken to singing Christmas Carols about Obama being Hitler.  LaRouchites are to politics what professional wrestling is to sports.

“It seems wasteful, not to mention terribly unfair to Hitler, that Obama gets to be the only thing that’s like Hitler.  Honey, Republicans and LaRouchites can’t be hogging all the crazy,” Juanita explains.

OR
If Bush=Hitler it is really good that other evil nazis will possibly get elected to the Senate.
LaRouche pamphleters seem remarkably ready to call the police on anyone that debates their erroneous politics. Glad I didn’t fall for it!
Particularly if you like spas and nature hikes.

Group members held a banner reading, “End Obama’s Depression, Invoke the 25th Amendment.” They also held aloft a sign with a picture of Obama with Hitler-esque features (Eat your heart out, Jon Stewart) with a caption that echoed their song’s lyrics.

Between songs, they were eager to explain their position. According to them, President Obama is incapable of remedying the economic problems the country is facing. Obama has taken the side of the “big Wall-Street agenda” and is actually preventing the country from breaking out of the recession.

Despite their sign’s caption, a representative named “Tim” said they were not seeking impeachment, saying that it’s “a long process, and we want to be nice about it.”

Or, Not an Animal.
This is a mixed message.  You have a sign asking to impeach the President.  But when asked, you state that you no longer are seeking impeachment.

“Hey man, can I get a picture of you in front of  your sign?” I asked “Eric Thomas” (the name I was given and largely doubt).
“What? Is this for the news?” he asked.
“Yes.” Looking at me with a sense of distrust he asked, “Okay, which one?”
“The Sheet,” I respond.
“Alright, but I don’t really want any attention.” I look at him slightly baffled. Pointing at his sign that depicts President Obama with a Hitler mustache, I say, “But you have a sign reading ‘Impeach Obama’ on Main Street? Anyway, why do you want him impeached?”
“Actually, we don’t want him impeached anymore. Our focus has changed.” Now I’m really confused. “We want him out faster than that. We want him [removed from office] in a day,” he says to me with confidence.

So.  Are they behind in their signage?
Isn’t this a demand for Instant Gratification that serves the Animal more than the Man?

Some analysis of Kesha Rogers’s performance.  I could shift back to see what LPAC said about Rogers’s victory.  I think it went something to the effect that she is now a Major Political Figure — singing Christmas Carol themed Obama Impeachment songs being the job of Major Political figures.
Meantime, Rachel Brown lost the primary because the Boston Vault depressed the vote.

Here’s what Earl Browder said in 1940 about how well the Communist Party did in an election.

We want an accurate and objective estimate of our own party and ts position in American society, the trends of its development.  In order to get such an objective estimate, at least the elements of an objective estimate, perhaps as good a beginning as any could be made with an analysis of the special election in the 14th Congressional District of New York.  Now, what did this election show?  It showed, first of all, that while there did exist a potential majority of the people against both old parties, the situation had not matured to crystallize that majority behind the Communist Party at the moment.  And no matter how many voters may have been bought or stolen from us, that fact stands out as unchallengeable.
But when we proceed to a closer analysis of what happened, we find the following, in comparing 1940 with the last general election in 1938: whereas that year when we were in a bloc with the American Labor Party and the New Deal and when our vote was decisive in defeating Dewey and electing Governor Lehman, and we were going with the stream.  We received 11.6 per cent of the vote cast in the 14th Congressional District — on February 6, 1940, after five months of the most strenuous united attacks upon us by every other political camp, when the American Labor Party leadership together with the Democratic Party were waging a war of extermination against us, what happened as a result of this change of forces?
First, the American Labor Party disappeared from the scene entirely. […]  The Democratic Party dropped 45 per cent of its total vote or almost 20 per cent of its proportion of the total vote — from 69 per cent to 57 per cent, while the Communist Party advanced from 11.6 per cent to 13.6 per cent.  In other words, we were the only political organization which advanced its proportion of votes in this district.  The Republicans stood still — in proportion.
This testing of forces took place under the maximum concentration of fire of all other camps against us.  That was the only issue in the campaign — to defeat the Communists, and they really had the jitters about whether they could do it or not.  When we bear in mind that none the less we not only maintained our strength, but advanced, I think we can say realistically that our party has held its ranks solid, has multiplied its effective work, and extended its influence deeper among the masses.  That is unquestionable.
— Earl Browder, text of the report to the National Committee on Feb 17, 1940.

 Tremendous up-surge, I suppose.

 Now to move past Glenn Beck Territory, and cue letter response .

@kappy0405 You’re still crazy Alex Jones, Daniel Estulin, Webster Tarpley, Gerald Celente, David Icke and Lyndon LaRouche are all crazy. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.

Webster Tarpley is never going to go after Rand Paul.  His bread is buttered with this sphere of influence, see Alex Jones.  I suppose this Paulite is consistent in understanding Tarpley’s philosophy, though.

Someone should tell these commenters that there was a SNL parody done in the 1980s, though not when he was popular so much as … novel and known.

If he knew it was coming, why didn’t he profit from it like that other guy?? Also, if he’s so knowledgeable about the economy, why did he have to commit credit card fraud on a larger scale than ever before??

According to LaRouche supporters this is because Jones is trying to cover their real message of freedom up.
As far as I know this isnt the case. I do like some of what LaRouche says, some of it not so much. They both seem genuine.

Say
Your description of the LaRouche group reads as if it came directly from Wikipedia, the world’s least reliable source
Last looking at wikipedia seen here.

Worst sources exist.

Jewish-born Germacentric, Lyndon LaRouche […]
Duggan made the fatal mistake of getting too close to the true connection between LaRouche and the Frankists. Their program calls for the brainwashing of Jews to hate themselves and they don’t cotton to rebels. Here is how that is accomplished through the Israeli higher education system, as reported by Caroline Glick this week in the Jerusalem Post.

Ugh.

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