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	<title>Comments on: More effective than a slew of Cuban Frogmen&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Rachel Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Kronberg did have premonitions, according to his wife--he said it would be incredibly ugly. He expressed revulsion at what he saw coming--in regard to himself and his whole family.

Of course, anyone who had been in the LaRouche organization as long as Kronberg had, knew how LaRouche treated and treats his &quot;exes&quot;--uses people and throws them away. Even the tiny bitter-ender group still on the NEC/NC probably understands how that works....

Wanna bet that if Nancy Spannaus had to write that obit today, it would be rather different?

Tuer07 is right. You are doing good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kronberg did have premonitions, according to his wife&#8211;he said it would be incredibly ugly. He expressed revulsion at what he saw coming&#8211;in regard to himself and his whole family.</p>
<p>Of course, anyone who had been in the LaRouche organization as long as Kronberg had, knew how LaRouche treated and treats his &#8220;exes&#8221;&#8211;uses people and throws them away. Even the tiny bitter-ender group still on the NEC/NC probably understands how that works&#8230;.</p>
<p>Wanna bet that if Nancy Spannaus had to write that obit today, it would be rather different?</p>
<p>Tuer07 is right. You are doing good.</p>
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		<title>By: tuer07</title>
		<link>http://www.struat.com/election/2007/08/07/more-effective-than-a-slew-of-cuban-frogmen/comment-page-1/#comment-13229</link>
		<dc:creator>tuer07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am juggling many audiences, trying to figure out how anything I post here might be received by different forces&quot;

 Don&#039;t worry about how what you write is perceived, as long as it is true.    Thank you for doing this.  You are doing good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am juggling many audiences, trying to figure out how anything I post here might be received by different forces&#8221;</p>
<p> Don&#8217;t worry about how what you write is perceived, as long as it is true.    Thank you for doing this.  You are doing good.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Premonitions.  Why I could not leave this topic alone, even when I could with Jeremiah Duggan -- who I learned about in a round-about manner--  (JusticeforJeremiah linked to an open letter that an exited Larouche posted on this blog) -- and who should be a lot easier for me to relate to -- born the same year and on from there.

The problem I had with Kronberg was that I had seen his suicide coming.  Not specifically, but something very much like it.  And I saw it coming without knowing anything specific about the cult&#039;s apparatus.  It hit me while puzzling out Larouche literature in March.  Thus when I saw in April, unnamed long-time associate jumped off a bridge, I had that thorough-line: Premonition of bad things to come, bad thing happened.

Which put me in an odd bind.  I knew just enough that I would feel guilt hanging over me if something like this happened again.  I wasn&#039;t exactly in a place to do anything, so what was I going to do?

That makes the Kronberg premonitions of his impending vilification a little startling to me.  He saw what was coming -- affecting himself -- just as I saw something coming, and apparently right at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Premonitions.  Why I could not leave this topic alone, even when I could with Jeremiah Duggan &#8212; who I learned about in a round-about manner&#8211;  (JusticeforJeremiah linked to an open letter that an exited Larouche posted on this blog) &#8212; and who should be a lot easier for me to relate to &#8212; born the same year and on from there.</p>
<p>The problem I had with Kronberg was that I had seen his suicide coming.  Not specifically, but something very much like it.  And I saw it coming without knowing anything specific about the cult&#8217;s apparatus.  It hit me while puzzling out Larouche literature in March.  Thus when I saw in April, unnamed long-time associate jumped off a bridge, I had that thorough-line: Premonition of bad things to come, bad thing happened.</p>
<p>Which put me in an odd bind.  I knew just enough that I would feel guilt hanging over me if something like this happened again.  I wasn&#8217;t exactly in a place to do anything, so what was I going to do?</p>
<p>That makes the Kronberg premonitions of his impending vilification a little startling to me.  He saw what was coming &#8212; affecting himself &#8212; just as I saw something coming, and apparently right at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaRouche ALWAYS blames his victims--a rather Hitlerian touch. (They MADE me do it to them.)

Interesting fact: In the months leading up to his death, and especially in the weeks before his death, Ken Kronberg said over and over that he would be vilified &quot;like you&#039;ve never seen.&quot; He told his wife--who has told members, former members, non-members--that they would both be vilified horribly when he was forced to close PMR down.

Obviously when he saw the &quot;Morning Briefing&quot; of April 11, he thought &quot;here it comes.&quot;

And judging by LaRouche&#039;s phenomenally ill-considered memo of early July about &quot;Mother F---ers&#039; Fears,&quot; and even more by this shoot-themselves-in-the-foot Internal Memo, Ken Kronberg was absolutely right.

He WAS going to be horribly vilified.

Whatever happened to the genius extolled in Nancy Spannaus&#039;s cloying obituary? Because the week he died, Ken Kronberg was a genius, according to the Labor Cttee. Only later, as LaRouche started to get nervous, did Ken Kronberg become the goat.

Lyndon LaRouche is so transparent he could double for SaranWrap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaRouche ALWAYS blames his victims&#8211;a rather Hitlerian touch. (They MADE me do it to them.)</p>
<p>Interesting fact: In the months leading up to his death, and especially in the weeks before his death, Ken Kronberg said over and over that he would be vilified &#8220;like you&#8217;ve never seen.&#8221; He told his wife&#8211;who has told members, former members, non-members&#8211;that they would both be vilified horribly when he was forced to close PMR down.</p>
<p>Obviously when he saw the &#8220;Morning Briefing&#8221; of April 11, he thought &#8220;here it comes.&#8221;</p>
<p>And judging by LaRouche&#8217;s phenomenally ill-considered memo of early July about &#8220;Mother F&#8212;ers&#8217; Fears,&#8221; and even more by this shoot-themselves-in-the-foot Internal Memo, Ken Kronberg was absolutely right.</p>
<p>He WAS going to be horribly vilified.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to the genius extolled in Nancy Spannaus&#8217;s cloying obituary? Because the week he died, Ken Kronberg was a genius, according to the Labor Cttee. Only later, as LaRouche started to get nervous, did Ken Kronberg become the goat.</p>
<p>Lyndon LaRouche is so transparent he could double for SaranWrap.</p>
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